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Elysium

This review contains some spoilers, but from a plot perspective, Elysium is a straightforward action movie with no twists or surprises, so there isn’t a whole lot to give away.

Elysisum is another movie that has been oversold by Steve Sailer. You may recall that Steve told us that Idiocracy was the greatest movie ever, when it fact it was one of the worst movies ever. Elysium isn’t the worst movie ever, and in fact it’s quite charming for what it is, which is a campy sci-fi action movie with just the right amount of campiness such that it doesn’t become too stupid. But I was expecting more from Neill Blomkamp, the co-writer and director of the 2009 movie District 9.

Steve Sailer seems to think that Elysium is politically incorrect, but Alex Jones from Infowars thinks that Elysium is the most racist movie ever, and when he says “racist” he means that it’s racist against white people, and that the movie indoctrinates us into the liberal way of thinking that whites are evil while Hispanics are good.

Who is right? Can they both be right?

Elysium takes place in a dystopian 2154, but compared to countless other dystopian futures portrayed in other movies, Blomkamp’s dystopian 2154 Los Angeles has a realistic racial composition (95% Hispanic), and his space stations where all of the rich people live appears to be 90% white and 10% Asian. No doubt that Blomkamp’s politically incorrect attention to race is what Steve Sailer likes about the movie. But the movie clearly shows that the rich whites are assholes.

Let’s talk about that space station, Elysisum. Blomkamp deserves some credit for imagining the first space station that looks like the Hamptons. (Other reviews say it looks like Beverly Hills, but I’ve only been to Beverly Hills once, and only briefly, so to me it looks like the Hamptons.) Bedsides the few citizens of Elysium who work in the government (such as their Secretary of Defense played by Jodie Foster), the, and John Carlyle the CEO of the big corporation (played by William Fichtner) the rest of the citizens seem to spend most of the time attending pool parties at their mansions, all very smartly dressed in what could best be described as preppy country club casual. This initially made me like them a lot more than the scruffy, dirty and tattooed Hispanics living down on Earth.

Blomkamp’s future has robots. There are robot cops and robot parole officers. But why aren’t there any robot factory workers? Instead, John Carlyle mans his factories with humans who work in unsafe conditions because they are considered expendable. The hero of the movie, Max (played by an Hispanic-looking Matt Damon), is told by his white foreman that he has to go into a dangerous industrial machine in order to remove some blockage, or he will be fired. So Max does it, but then the machine starts up and he is blasted with a lethal dose of radiation.

But Max could live if he could get medical treatment at Elysium. You see, in Eysium, every house has its own super-computerized-medical-bay that can heal anything. But as I wrote above, the white people who live in Elysium are assholes. They have these super- computerized -medical-bays that are just sitting around their houses unused 99% of the time, but they won’t send any of these to the hospitals down on Earth. And they don’t seem to have any good reason for their stinginess besides just hatred of Hispanic people. At the end of the move, after the good guys “reboot” the Elysium computer making everyone down on Earth citizens, the computer sends a bunch of robot medical shuttles down to earth to heal everybody and there don’t seem to be any negative repercussions for anyone in Elysium.

The other interesting side-plot in the movie is the politics of Elysium. The hard-nosed Secretary of Defense will do anything to keep the earth-scum from invading their sanctuary in the sky, but the wimpy liberal Indian President Patel (played by Harvard grad Faran Tahir) doesn’t have the stomach for the tough policing necessary to keep their families safe.

Throughout the movie, I was waiting to discover the history of Elysium. Why did the rich people have to move to a space station? Why couldn’t they just move to the Hamptons? Or to Australia? What was their reason for withholding medical technology? There are no answers, it’s just a dystopian future where the white people are evil assholes.

I rate Elysium as being less worthy of watching than every other movie I’ve reviewed during the last year. So I recommend subscribing to Netflix and watching Damsels in Distress, Les Miserables, Let Me In, and Seripico, all much better movies.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 17, 2013 at 8:02 pm

Posted in Immigration, Movies

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  1. I think there is a big difference between these being “good movies” in the pure narrative sense and movies that make social commentary about taboo subjects which Steve is intensely interested in. Since no one talks about these subjects publicly, it is notable that these movies even get made.

    there is a solid case that Blomkamp’s movies are deeply subversive and only superficially pander to liberal values. and some would say a mark of successful art is that no one can agree what it is about, even if i agree with you that the superficial plot basically sucked. in fairness, in the review you linked to, Steve says elysium is “pretty good movie” not a great one, and it’s clear his fascination is more about blomkamp’s south african roots and character.

    citing alex jones as a counterexample is kind of funny. alex jones strikes me as the kind of moron who is part of the sarah palin cadre leading “conservatism” over a cliff. jones doesn’t realize that every media outlet in the world pretty much already assumes this as fact so perhaps the movie includes that theme because it is essentially today’s dominant worldview among US elites. it doesn’t surprise me that he can’t look at the movie and offer an intelligent perspective, and gets distracted by the superficial.

    lion of the lionosphere

    August 17, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    • Yeah, Jones is a moron. He keeps saying that the elites are working toward implementation of eugenics when in fact they promote dysgenic policies.

      Kudzu Bob

      August 18, 2013 at 1:02 am

    • Honestly, Straussian commentary is likely becoming more commonplace in these politically correct times.

      de Broglie

      August 18, 2013 at 12:54 pm

  2. Blomkamp is part of the post ’94 generation in SA which has been successfully brainwashed.

    Despite all the brainwashing conditions are no better for blacks in SA. Conditions are much worse for whites. Since ’94 25% of them have left, many for Australia.

    The history of the white man of Africa, the Boer, is tragic, but never told.

    Hugh Lygon

    August 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm

  3. The carrying capacity for a space station is very limited. The international space station can only sustain a crew of three or four. What would happen is 500 people wanted to live there.

    People who are on the defensive always found like assholes since they know that the size of the pie is limited and giving more to others means less for themselves. Offering to take resources from one group and give it to another makes people look generous when they really are not.

    You are correct in the plot holes. Shouldn’t Hollywood have more people who read screenplays and the rough cut of movies to spot the plot holes.

    superdestroyer

    August 17, 2013 at 9:27 pm

  4. One needn’t be a racist to know the National Party government wasn’t as bad as it was portrayed to be in mass media outside SA.

    The treatment of the indigenes in the Americas, incuding the US system of reservations (no different from bantustans), hasn’t been any better. The difference is that Latin America’s white ruling class has never put the difference into law or has repealed what laws there were under the Spanish.

    White SAs made the mistake of exploiting black labor. Greed ruined what might have been a great country. Greed in the US is the reason for the open border with Mexico.

    An historical note: At the time of the Cape Colony the region which is today SA was almost uninhabited. Bantu speaking peoples settled after the Dutch landed.

    Hugh Lygon

    August 17, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    • Your saying there could have been a true separateness with a whites only country in south africa that didnt bus in black labor?

      reynald

      August 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm

      • Yes. I’ve always wondered why the Afrikaners didn’t do this. Declare the Cape “South Africa,” and walk away from the rest of Southern Africa.

        dsgntd_plyr

        August 18, 2013 at 11:20 pm

  5. Sounds like a rip-off of SG1 episode 410 where the team is enslaved in the dystopic underground belly of a utopian, above ground civilization.

    “Or to Australia?”

    Probably due to ozone depletion.

    islandmommy

    August 17, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    • The Original Star Trek had something similar too.

      steve@steve.com

      August 18, 2013 at 11:41 am

    • I think the basic plot of the movie if fairly generic. Utopian elitists oppress downtrotten morally superior people for no good reason. That was also the basic plot of Star Trek TOS episode, “The Cloud Minders.”

      It seems like Hollywood only has 20 or so basic plots and this is one of them, although it’s not as common as the Dances With Wolves/Star Trek Insurrection / Avatar one.

      Mike

      August 18, 2013 at 12:56 pm

  6. And, btw, Mandela was a terrorist, not just a non-state militant.

    Hugh Lygon

    August 17, 2013 at 9:38 pm

  7. I started watching “Breaking Bad” on a friend’s Netflix account, and that show seems to illustrate white=redeemable, Hispanic=bad. Hispanics are so bad, in fact, they even rat out their own cousins.

    An older movie had a similar attitude about Hispanics: “Falling Down.” Hispanics were assholes who couldn’t shoot straight.

    The one rule all movies and shows seem to follow, including “Breaking Bad”, is that a black will never, ever be shown in an unflattering light. The very implausible world-class black oncologist in “Breaking Bad” was thusfar the one false note in an otherwise good series.

    PA

    August 17, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    • What about Gustavo Fring? Or have you not gotten to that part yet? He breaks most hispanic stereotypes (the actor is half black, half white, but the character is hispanic). I’m not so sure BB portrays whites in a good light, particularly with its theme of drug use by whites. But it’s interesting to see how the nerdy white guy (whose last name is…. “white”) vanquishes the predominantly hispanic drug cartel with aplomb.

      There aren’t many black characters in BB but off the top of my head, Saul’s morbidly obese bodyguard is not a sympathetic character.

      BB is a brilliant show.

      islandmommy

      August 18, 2013 at 12:00 am

      • The show is set in New Mexico/the Southwest, so there shouldn’t be many Blacks in the cast. That would be weird.

        dsgntd_plyr

        August 18, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    • The entire series is false.

      It was supposed to END after the 1st season – when Skyler’s plane was greased by the grieving poppa of the dead skank. Took out Teh Babby, too as evidenced by the “artistic” pink colored bear.

      Once Big Money was discovered in AMC’s drooling audience – taa-daa! – NEW seasons suddenly emerged.

      If you want’ criminality explored, don’t waste your time on
      “TV”

      Go read Crime & Punishment.

      Firepower

      August 18, 2013 at 11:32 am

    • Another unrealistic racial angle is Gus’s multiracial gang. He’s black, Victor is Mexican, Mike is white, and then conveniently there’s that Chinese immigrant.

      Hepp

      August 19, 2013 at 1:41 am

  8. I agree that the movie could have been better if there had been at least a little background on Elysium. I imagine Elysium was made when the USA became overcrowded with immigrants, leading to high crime rates and dysfunction. Thus, the rich capitalists of the USA built Elysium as a haven from the USA, and only returned occasionally to the USA on Earth to supervise their automated factories and quasi-slave labor.

    This scenario is not entirely unrealistic. In the future, robots will do most of the manual skilled labor that humans currently do, and humans will be only be needed to fix the robots and automated machines when they break down (like Matt Damon’s character did). Elysium was ok in this respect since it at least broached this topic. but it fails in the sense that it didn’t really flesh out the topic as well as it could have. I can’t really blame Blomkamp, though, since this is a bit too subversive of a subject to explore in a mainstream Hollywood film.

    Jay

    August 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm

    • This seems like a much better idea for a movie… where the earth-bound poor have nothing to do because robots do all the manual labor. As Lion is thinking, showing the poor exploited just because the white ruling class are assholes seems rather lame.

      steve@steve.com

      August 18, 2013 at 11:45 am

  9. Quote: “Elysisum is another movie that has been oversold by Steve Sailer. You may recall that Steve told us that Idiocracy was the greatest movie ever, when it fact it was one of the worst movies ever”

    What is your problem with Steve Sailer? Doesn’t he have the right to like a movie that you don’t? For what it’s worth, I thought that Idiocracy was a pretty decent movie.

    Joe Walker

    August 17, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    • I love Steve Sailer’s blog, but he incredibly oversold Idiocracy which was a god-awful movie. I guess I’m still mad that I wasted an hour and forty minutes of my life watching that movie.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 17, 2013 at 11:24 pm

      • Watching any film produced by Hollywood in a movie theatre = outwardly prole

        JS

        August 18, 2013 at 12:31 am

      • Yes, that’s an hour and forty-five minutes that could have been spent blogging!

        Kudzu Bob

        August 18, 2013 at 1:04 am

      • Oh come on Lion, it wasn’t *that* bad. There were numerous funny bits.

        steve@steve.com

        August 18, 2013 at 11:47 am

      • Watching any film produced by Hollywood in a movie theatre = outwardly prole

        The Lion only watches movies in elite theaters.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 18, 2013 at 11:54 am

      • I liked Idiocracy a lot, great subversive satire, but also very funny. I also like Judge’s Beavis & Butthead when I was a kid.

        Zoink

        August 18, 2013 at 8:40 pm

      • Maybe Idiocracy was cinematically bad (in terms of production quality) but it is a very important movie. It gave a name to, and explained for the layperson, one of the most important trends of the history of the world, while most of the world ignored that trend.

        Dan

        August 19, 2013 at 12:06 pm

  10. Matt Damon playing a Hispanic in Elysium could be because of his Latin doppleganger:

    Rene Perez – a celebrity singer of the well known Puerto Rican duo known as Calle 13.

    Besides the negative portrayals, Hispanics will sue Hollywood for discrimination.

    JS

    August 18, 2013 at 1:01 am

    • IMO, Damon looks more Pyrenean than Hispanic.

      islandmommy

      August 18, 2013 at 9:51 am

      • Damon doesn’t look Hispanic, but his tattoos and scant hair appearance in Elysium reminds certain viewers familiar with Latin celebrities such as Rene Perez. Perez is a native Puerto Rican (not the housing project dwelling scum found in NYC), which means he’s also a fellow American out on the Island. Rene apparently knows Julian Assange of Wikileaks and wanted to rescue Ed Snowden out of Russia.

        JS

        August 18, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    • He is playing white hispanic.

      Knoxy

      August 19, 2013 at 9:29 am

  11. I question whether Sailer is right on Elysium. Haven’t seen it, and based on general reviews, don’t intend to. I did see District 9 and didn’t see any of the hidden messages Steve picked up on there. Ofttimes something is exactly what it appears on the surface.

    Steve was dead right on the movie “Disgrace,” though. Sitting there, after the credits roll, I was stunned that that that movie allowed to be made. I can only assume the message sailed over everyone’s heads.

    Guy Dupree

    August 18, 2013 at 1:34 am

  12. I saw “Eylsium” two days ago. LOTB pretty much has the movie down, as do these guys:

    http://www.overthinkingit.com/2013/08/12/otip-episode-267/

    The movie is an action movie which has some arresting visuals of the big third world slum (it was actually filmed in Mexico City) that the movie is set in. The dystopian world that the movie is set in makes no sense at all if you think about it more than five minutes, as the podcast I link to demonstrate.

    I have no idea what Steve Sailer is talking about on this one. There have been a slew of genre sci fi movies set in dystopian futures this summer (“Oblivion” and “World War Z” obviously, but I would including the new “Superman”, with Krypton as a sort of anit-Elysium), all of which has much thoughtful solid social commentary than Elysium. The dystopian sci fi world in Elysium is really just there to provide a cool backdrop to the action.

    Also, too much is being made of Bloemkemp’s South African background. The only way that it might miatter is that having grown up in the “developing world”, Bloemkemp is familiar with Mexico City/ Johannesburg (also Cairo and there are lots of other examples) slum-cities in a way most Americans aren’t. Btw, as the podcast points out, these places are also less awful than most Americans seem to think they are. People somehow manage to construct normal lives in them, and the movie at times even shows this.

    Ed

    August 18, 2013 at 3:49 am

  13. Steve Sailer is like a lot of high IQ nerds — he has a low “EQ”. I couldn’t finish Idiocracy and no longer pay attention to any of his movie recommendations.

    CamelCaseRob

    August 18, 2013 at 6:05 am

    • Sailer is a high IQ nerd who can appreciate lowbrow humor. This is indicative of high emotional intelligence. He can relate to regular people, which is one thing that scares the hell out of his critics.

      Robert

      August 18, 2013 at 12:05 pm

  14. How can you claim that sailer oversold the movie when most of the review is about other reviers, he complained about the bad dialogue, and he wrote in the open of the review “isn’t terribly amusing to watch”

    I do not see Sailer overselling the movie. Based on the review, it is an action movie that could have some hidden messages that most people are not getting.

    superdestroyer

    August 18, 2013 at 10:28 am

  15. Lion,
    don’t HATE Elysium for it’s
    “Political Message”

    Wise men KNOW there is no value in wasting time searching for prescient thought from the likes of Hollywood.

    Besides – there already is an exclusive Gated|Moated Fortress World reserved for The Rich:
    It’s called Feudal Manhattan

    http://eradica.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/hurricane-in-manhattan-worlds-largest-gated-community/

    Firepower

    August 18, 2013 at 11:29 am

    • Manhattan has pockets of low income sections (ie. Black and Hispanic neighborhoods with White gentrifiers). It’s not completely “gated”.

      JS

      August 18, 2013 at 2:11 pm

      • Ain’t nothing like a
        1% exception
        To prove…
        My Rule

        Firepower

        August 18, 2013 at 9:26 pm

      • According to the 2010 census:

        “48.0% of Manhattan’s population was non-Hispanic White, 12.9% non-Hispanic Black or African American, 0.1% non-Hispanic American Indian and Alaska Native, 11.2% non-Hispanic Asian, 0.3% from some other race (non-Hispanic) and 1.9% of two or more races (non-Hispanic). 25.4% of Manhattan’s population was of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin (they may be of any race)”.

        There’s plenty of undesirables roaming around Manhattan. A few years ago, a real estate developer offered Hispanic tenants of a low income housing project in Manhattan $500K per househould to leave, so he could make space for a luxury condo. They said no, as they would rather be segregated in a SWPL oasis than to be trapped in a no man’s land out in some shithole. Blacks who were formely the most prevalent minority group in Manhattan, have been ousted by Latinos, as their numbers are gradually dwindling. Reasons, Hispanics own businesses and have more influence when it comes to affordable housing. Blacks are complete losers as they have nothing (with the exception of being overrepresented in government jobs), and are strongly discriminated wherever they go.

        My point is that Manhattan is not entirely a moated community, and it won’t be anytime soon.

        JS

        August 19, 2013 at 10:08 am

      • Many of Manhattan’s “Hispanics” are rich white-looking Hispanics, not people living in the ghetto. There are also some rich blacks like former Mayor Dinkins and 5% of BIGLAW lawyers are black (or something like that), and my black friend from high school who is now a Havard-educated surgeon who works in Manhattan. I’d much prefer him as a next door neighbor than some guido.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 19, 2013 at 10:30 am

      • “my black friend from high school who is now a Havard-educated surgeon who works in Manhattan. I’d much prefer him as a next door neighbor than some guido”.

        Lion is showing some cracks. And how many black professionals are out there to prove your point?

        Even the most seemingly intelligent and polished blacks are a poor investment because of their inherent nature of being less evolved and having low future time orientation.

        A high end bookstore here in NYC hires black employees who speak impeccable non-ebonic English to look over expensive books while eating McDonalds or some greasy food while they’re at it. Tell me what’s wrong with this. But don’t tell that to Liberals who don’t have a clue.

        JS

        August 19, 2013 at 10:45 am

      • My guess is that 15 to 20 percent of Manhattan blacks are upper-middle-class professionals.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 19, 2013 at 10:56 am

      • “Many of Manhattan’s “Hispanics” are rich white-looking Hispanics, not people living in the ghetto”.

        There are plenty of Hispanics who live in the housing projects. And to clear up any misconceptions, project dwellers aren’t as poor as some people make them out to be. This is of course, I’m speaking of Hispanics and not Blacks, who are being ousted in NYC, because Hispanics have a lot more capital than the average Blacks.

        JS

        August 19, 2013 at 10:49 am

      • “My guess is that 15 to 20 percent of Manhattan blacks are upper-middle-class professionals”.

        It’s more like 5 to 10% based on social gatherings that I have been to and my line of work dealing with high earners.

        JS

        August 19, 2013 at 11:24 am

      • I don’t know if you correctly interpreted what I said.

        Manhattan is 13% non-Hispanic black. If 15 to 20% of those blacks are upper-middle-class blacks, that means that Manhattan is 2% to 2.5% upper-middle-class black and 10.5% to 11% prole and underclass black.

        These numbers would explain why blacks are 5% of wealthy social gatherings.

        Note that most middle-class blacks live in Brooklyn and Queens. Manhattan is generally for either the upper-middle-class or the poor, not for the middle class. There may be a few middle class living in Inwood, and a few old middle class hanging on to rent-controlled apartments (especially in the huge co-op community west of Lincoln Center, or on the far east Upper East Side or the far East side between 14th St and 34th St).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 19, 2013 at 11:33 am

      • “Manhattan is 13% non-Hispanic black. If 15 to 20% of those blacks are upper-middle-class blacks, that means that Manhattan is 2% to 2.5% upper-middle-class black and 10.5% to 11% prole and underclass black”.

        It should be less than that when it comes to upper middle class blacks living in Manhattan. The percentages are about 1% or less based on the high income clientele whom I’ve seen and want to invest in their money, which proves my point again that blacks have a lower future time orientation.

        Those blacks in those elite social gatherings may not even be in the upper middle class bracket, given the fact that many White liberals would invite blacks in their gatherings to prove they are not “racist”.

        It’s every easy to observe that 99% of the tenants entering and leaving luxurious Manhattan residentials happened to be non-Black. I have seen a substantial number of Asians. A walk of around central park, I rarely see a black jogger, but a substantial number of Asians and Indians mixed in with Whites.

        JS

        August 19, 2013 at 12:10 pm

      • Well I have to admit that there are no upper middle class blacks in my 100-unit building.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 19, 2013 at 2:37 pm

      • There aren’t many blacks in NYC whom we can say are successful. Those who live the middle class lifestyle, as they are more of these than elite blacks, are living in borrowed times as predominantly public employees who weren’t facing stiff competition from immigrant groups such as Hispanics, who are more enterprising and make better workers. This is of course is changing, as Hispanics have become a major demographic to be reckon with.

        In regards to the public housing issue in Manhattan, Hispanics have cornered this system entirely as tenants and also as bureaucrats who showing preference for their own. Further, Hispanics have more capital, which causes corruption and abuse in this welfare system where they bribe the management as to gain preference for these apartment units. Blacks rarely have any saved up capital to engage in any sweetheart deals where things could work in their favor. This goes back to their inability to sustain any high future time orientation.

        JS

        August 19, 2013 at 5:01 pm

  16. I don’t buy Sailer’s argument about Blomkamp being the Hugo Schwyzer of Hollywood. He makes it sound like Blomkamp reads alt-right blogs and makes his movies as inside jokes for people who are in the know. Whatever his intentions, Elysium is effective anti-white propaganda.

    A few good movies on Netflix Instant that Lion readers might have overlooked:

    Snow on tha Bluff: Pseudo-documentary about a charismatic and violent black gangster. If you want to know what black ghetto life is really like, this is the movie to watch.

    Cocaine Cowboys: A fascinating documentary about the cocaine trade in Florida in the 70s and 80s.

    The Snowtown Murders: A dramatization of a weird and extremely disturbing case from Australia. If you can stomach torture and enjoy Larry Clark’s seedier movies, you’ll like this.

    Robert

    August 18, 2013 at 11:55 am

  17. Don’t you think the term hispanic is part of the problem? The term has nothing directly to do with race. Unlike the spanish, we don’t really have words for the typical racial mixtures seen in south America, but pardo and mestizo would be a lot clearer than hispanic.

    reynald

    August 18, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    • Hispanic racial hierarchy terms:

      1) Blanco – White, usually someone directly from Spain
      2) Castizo – 3/4 White, 1/4 Native
      3) Mestizo – 1/2 White 1/2 Native or 3/4 Native and 1//4 White
      4) Mulatto – 1/2 White 1/2 Black or 3/4 Black and 1/4 White
      5) Negro – Black – the lowest status

      Of course, they are individuals who are dominantly White in appearance with a tinge of African or East Asian in their ancestry, which is not significant, and others who have genes from all the different races. These are general terms in the order of privilege and status coming from colonial times.

      JS

      August 18, 2013 at 1:59 pm

      • The movie is purely metaphoric. Metaphor is a limitation all science fiction scenarios must confront because ultimately we don’t know how technology and social evolution will unfold in the next 100 or 500 years.

        For instance, given rapid technological advance and the ensuing mass availability of safe and dependable interplanetary space travel, either the wealthiest would 1) choose to populate the outlying areas (space stations, planets) while beautifying them with their expensive affectations, or 2) embark on a progrom of global ethnic cleansing in which all undesirables are shipped far away from earth in putrid cargo ships leaving behind a Utopian vision of Earth which the White elites could reclaim as their own. (Or 3, everyone just dies before they can accomplish anything.)

        Elysium’s appeal is to the HBD at this point is merely on a level of The Turner Diaries.

        Socially Extinct

        August 18, 2013 at 10:33 pm

      • That’s a subset, my understanding is that there are over 100 spanish terms a small number of which have sort of made there way into english and to the extent that they are recognized at all are seen as at least vaguely racist. It says something about racial dialogue in this country that we don’t even have the terms to discuss it dispassionately.

        Lion, like many people, is using the term hispanic as though it is a similar category to white or black which is inaccurate.

        reynald

        August 18, 2013 at 11:08 pm

  18. I may be the only person here who actually liked Idiocracy, but it explored some themes that are usually verboten in Hollywood land.

    Mike

    August 18, 2013 at 1:14 pm

  19. “You may recall that Steve told us that Idiocracy was the greatest movie ever, when it fact it was one of the worst movies ever.”

    There’s that fag talk we talked about…

    ghost of jake powell

    August 18, 2013 at 1:20 pm

  20. LotB: “Why did the rich people have to move to a space station?”

    Of course, we all know the answer – to get away from poor people.

    E. Rekshun

    August 18, 2013 at 1:22 pm

  21. It was silly to give a movie a name that so many people have trouble spelling.

    caroljm36

    August 18, 2013 at 1:57 pm

  22. What happened to the American blacks? Did they finally go extinct after the EBT cards stopped working?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    August 18, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    • Hispanics cleaned out the public dole fund years before the Elysium movie. They have replaced blacks virtually in everything with the exception of govt jobs. It would be nice to see a prequel.

      Elite Jews and even Elite Asians have wiped out their lesser members, because elitists basically don’t like proles despite coming from the same stock.

      JS

      August 18, 2013 at 9:41 pm

  23. What is Lion’s problem with idiocracy? Perhaps he is reading too much into a movie that is supposed to be a comedy and satire.

    AsianDude

    August 18, 2013 at 3:41 pm

  24. It’s funny that people claim the movie can’t be right wing because the whites are assholes.

    The white elites of the future WILL be assholes. A small white / Jewish elite will rule over a large Hispanic peasant class.

    Nice middle class white people will be extinct, their offspring will have merged into the mestizo and mulatto hordes. And at that point, the hordes will be as close as there is to “good guys”.

    SMERSH

    August 18, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    • All Elitists are self serving assholes. Look at the wealthy Chinese and the Elite Asians; they are hellbent in eliminating their inferior members. It makes a lot sense since East Asia is a polluted and overcrowded cesspool.

      JS

      August 18, 2013 at 9:44 pm

  25. The irony of Elysium is that, in the real world, the elites are the ones who made the movie and are pushing for amnesty. Yet they still hate proles.

    destructure

    August 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    • SWPLs disdain proles much more than racial minorities. It’s a form of self hate that transcends the human race.

      JS

      August 18, 2013 at 9:46 pm

  26. Elysium strikes me as a paranoid version of the Star Trek episode ‘The Cloud Minders’. While the Trek episode had an uplifting message (albeit anti-HBD), Elysium is just depressing ’80s style dystopia.

    They should’ve just made Ringworld into a movie. At least it contains silliness and cat-warrior aliens.

    Minnie

    August 19, 2013 at 12:29 am

  27. He is playing white hispanic.

    Knoxy

    August 19, 2013 at 9:30 am

  28. It would have been more exciting if he’d named it “Manhattan”.

    Glengarry

    August 25, 2013 at 4:30 pm


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