Lion of the Blogosphere

For equality, move to Wichita

A NY Times article discovers that income inequality is lowest in cities located “in the South and the Midwest” and highest in the big cities of Atlanta, San Francisco, Miami, Boston, Washington DC, and New York.

The New York Times recommends that we all move to Wichita, Kansas. Just kidding. Although Wichita has more income quality than New York, no one from the NY Times would want to live in a state where Sam Brownback is the governor.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 20, 2014 at 9:36 am

Posted in Economics

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  1. That’s why I said America is a sh*tty place. Its heartland lacks any vibrancy. Just quiet prole towns in the middle with social dysfunction on the coastal areas.

    JS

    February 20, 2014 at 9:49 am

    • Yeah, life is pretty humdrum for the most part in the heartland.

      However, on the bright side, you have a much reduced chance of being beaten in the Knockout Game or shot in a mugging by a “vibrant.”

      Give the Federal government time though. Thanks to Section 8 housing vouchers, our SWPL overlords at HUD will soon be importing the vibrancy to a quiet prole town near you.

      Oswald Spengler

      February 20, 2014 at 1:26 pm

      • West Virginia has a pretty high murder rate.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 1:36 pm

      • Yes, West Virginia has the 29th highest murder rate in the country. That’s pretty high.

        http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord

        dynkin

        February 20, 2014 at 3:59 pm

      • Pretty high considering that it’s a top-five whitest state.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      • West Virginia has a low murder rate, when you consider the amount of drug crimes going on in the area.

        Half Canadian

        February 20, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      • Give the Federal government time though. Thanks to Section 8 housing vouchers, our SWPL overlords at HUD will soon be importing the vibrancy to a quiet prole town near you.

        The Federal government and a bunch of religious-affiliated charities have been importing Africans for a couple of decades and dropping them on the unsuspecting folks in places like, MO, IA, and KS.

        E. Rekshun

        February 20, 2014 at 5:32 pm

  2. LOL I love how they talk about HBD without talking about HBD.

    Frank Montgomery

    February 20, 2014 at 10:08 am

  3. One of the commentators “Socrates” from that article made a very good comment about the wealthy, who enjoy living in the blue states, but believe in Republican values.

    Income inequality is predominantly shaped by the 0.1%’s capital gains and stock income.

    CEOs, vulture capitalists, too-big-to-fail banksters, hedge fund managers and Wall St. sociopaths tend to live in and locate their offices in thriving liberal blue cities because the idea of living in red state cities has zero cultural appeal to them.

    While these disproportionately and obscenely wealthy individuals privately like cities, they still fund GOP trickle-down poverty on a national level in order to maintain their tax code welfare that Republican voodoo economics help to sustain.

    It’s all part and parcel of GOP hypocrisy – it makes perfect Republican sense.

    Preach the virtues of the American heartland and countryside, but don’t get caught dead there.

    American income equality is not rooted in geography, however; it is rooted in hypocrisy, cognitive dissonance, plantation economics and American sociopathy.

    JS

    February 20, 2014 at 10:10 am

    • The myth of the rich Republican is a myth that simply won’t die.

      peterike

      February 20, 2014 at 11:19 am

      • There is a grain of truth to it, with the likes of Donald Trump, who is Republican, yet he could never imagine himself living in a Red State.

        The same goes for the Upper East Side – Wall Street Crowd, who enjoy multiculturalism at a distance and vote Republican, as long as they live in their exclusive neighborhood without NAM neighbors.

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 2:09 pm

      • More of them vote Democratic than you think (they may have voted for Joe Lhota for Mayor, but voted Obama for President), and even for the ones who vote Republican, their wives and children probably vote Democratic.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 2:14 pm

      • So why does the Upper East Side dislike de Blasio or vice versa?

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      • They dislike de Blasio, but they LOVE Obama.

        Unlike national Republicans, local Republicans aren’t anti-abortion anti-gay Jesus-loving evangelicals and Mormons, so they will vote for a Joe Lhota.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      • Obama got over 80% of the votes in New York. While the Upper East Side was relatively weaker for Obama, he still dominated there. This map is interesting. The Upper West Side is hilariously monochromatic.

        Romney only won in heavily Orthodox Jewish areas, and in some of the still white prole areas, like Howard Beach. And of course Staten Island, but everyone knows that Staten Island isn’t REALLY part of NYC.

        http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/24/nyregion/the-city-vote-precinct-by-precinct.html?_r=0

        peterike

        February 20, 2014 at 3:15 pm

      • An excellent map. The UES is more Republican than other parts of Manhattan, but still fall solidly into the pro-Obama blue.

        I think that MEN who work on Wall Street may have split around 50/50 in the last presidential election, but their wives voted solidly Obama, plus the UES has non-Wall Street people living there who voted solidly Obama.

        Note that Romney’s support comes from:

        Hasidic Jews
        Orthodox Jews
        Russian immigrants, many who are Jewish but are secular Jews
        Prole whites in Queens (Howard Beach, Breezy Point, Middle Village [where the 5'11" fencing champion beauty pageant winner Harvard freshman comes from], certain other white neighborhoods in Queens), areas of Brooklyn near the Belt Parkway, and Staten Island.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 3:34 pm

      • “Note that Romney’s support comes from:… Russian immigrants, many who are Jewish but are secular Jews.”

        I find this one very interesting. Russian Jews can be very Liberal politically, even radical/Socialist. My guess is that they haven’t been brainwashed to American thinking on race and just didn’t want to vote for a black guy, even if he might have fit a lot of their politics.

        peterike

        February 20, 2014 at 3:59 pm

      • Actually the conventional explanation of Russian immigrants is that they vote Republican because they dislike communism, and Democrats are more associated with communism than Republicans.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 4:04 pm

      • The question is, would these so called Republicans on the UES and the prole areas trade multicultural NYC for a heavily GOP place such as Alabama? The answer is of course no. The UES repubs are cunningly smart and the prole repubs are plain stupid.

        You guys are not even my elaborating on what I said. Who cares if their wives and daughters vote Democratic!

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      • It’s my belief that banking/finance is the most Republican industry in Manhattan, and that people who work in that industry voted 55% for Romney and 45% for Obama, but the Romney-voting financiers are more likely to live in Connecticut, and the Obama-voting financiers are more likely to live on the UES, and in both cases their wives voted for Obama by a wide margin.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      • Financiers vote where they live, not where they work, and the UES is a predominantly Wall St crowd, who usually votes Republican. For them to vote Republican makes a lot of sense, and in sync with their value transference careers, meaning they are trying to game the system to their benefit. Meanwhile, the outer borough proles in NYC are too stupid to understand that the GOP party are against everything that are crucial to them, because they are poor and prole. Of course, many of them have understood this, and many of them voted for de Blasio this time around.

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 4:23 pm

      • “So why does the Upper East Side dislike de Blasio or vice versa?”

        Beats me. But this is a very interesting mayoral vote map. Indeed, the UES went for Lhota. But the UWS was not as overwhelmingly for de Blasio as a lot of other places. The other weird thing is how few people voted at all: barely a million votes between the two of them. Maybe because so many people saw it as a forgone conclusion.

        You also get weird anomalies from areas where there are very few residents and mostly just office buildings. Look at the lower right below Central Park, a big area bright red for Lhota. Multiple city blocks, but only 25 total votes! Nobody lives there.

        I could look at maps like this all day.

        http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/nyc-mayor/map.html

        peterike

        February 20, 2014 at 4:32 pm

      • Upper East Siders probably see a dramatic crime increase under a democratic, liberal mayor.

        E. Rekshun

        February 20, 2014 at 5:37 pm

      • What type of hyper beta can’t get his wife to vote his worldview?

        BurplesonAFB

        February 20, 2014 at 6:03 pm

      • Proles in NYC voting Republican is like shooting oneself on the foot. Of course, many proles tend to have lower IQs not to realize this. And of course, proles in NYC are not cool, and where they live is boring as hell.

        Aren’t Hasidic Jews big welfare recepients? What’s up with voting Republican?

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 9:54 pm

      • Republicans are tough on crime, and white proles are more likely to be victims of crime because they live closer to bad neighborhoods and they don’t live in doorman buildings.

        DeBlasio’s policies are going to suck for the white proles.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    • Wow, those are some real “deep” comments from NY Times readers. Do they just “cut and paste” those comments, or are they already embedded in the keyboard ‘function’ keys?

      Let’s see – “vulture capitalists”; “banksters”; “hedge fund managers”; “Wall St”; “disporportionately”; “trickle down”‘; “voodoo economics”; “hypocrisy”; “plantation economics”.

      Check!!! Got all the liberal buzz words in!!

      But they left out: “truth to power”; “social justice”; “redistribution”; “Fox News”; “Koch Brothers”; “homophobia”; “racism”; “sexism”.

      Baron Rothschild

      February 20, 2014 at 1:36 pm

      • and “Bush is stooopid!”

        E. Rekshun

        February 20, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    • Huh? The wealthy are Progressives. Zuckerberg, Brin/Page, Huffington, Bezos, Gates, Bloomberg, hell even an un-PC rich guy like Paul Graham voted for Obama. Do I need to mention Hollywood? And you do realize Obama ran away with SF/SV? This myth needs to die.

      Romney won the $50k-$250 demo. Lost the TOOS and bottom.

      dsgntd_plyr

      February 20, 2014 at 6:10 pm

  4. Some of the commentators in that article were also chiding on people who live in subsidized housing in NYC. I think many SWPLs in the making, who live in NYC would grab an opportunity to live in a gov’t subsidized apartment, given the fact that the market rate for most NYC rentals are beyond ridiculous, even for a crappy tenement style walkup in lower Manhattan.

    JS

    February 20, 2014 at 10:47 am

    • There’s a housing project in Chinatown that looks livable.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 20, 2014 at 11:10 am

      • I believe it’s your typical ugly Mitchell Lama complex, in a not so great neighborhood.

        The Seward Park Coop by the LES has a similar arrangement, but it has terraces.

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 11:59 am

  5. Wow, shocking news. Cities that attract super-wealthy people have more “inequality.” Whoda thunk? In other news, NBA teams have a lot of “height inequality” compared to the general population.

    Progressives are so utterly innumerate that they are genuinely surprised by such things. By the way, the wealth concentration also explains the often cited “fact” that blue states pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits, and those nasty red states get more in taxes than the pay.

    Well, when the top 10% of income earners pay 70% of the taxes (and the top 1% pay 38%), and those 10% are concentrated heavily in blue state cities, then yeah, you’re going to get unequal payment of taxes.

    Math is so hard.

    peterike

    February 20, 2014 at 11:24 am

    • What is always amazing is that progressives use the blue state/red state tax issue while forgetting that is Mississippi suddenly elected a Democrat for governor that the situation would not change at all. I have actually never seen what the Democrats/progressives would do to increase the amount of taxes paid by states like Mississippi, New Mexico, or Alaska.

      superdestroyer

      February 20, 2014 at 5:34 pm

  6. “no one from the NY Times would want to live in a state where Sam Brownback is the governor.”

    ….

    Undoubtedly true. And few Kansans would want to live in a city where Bill de Blasio is mayor or a state where Andrew Cuomo is governor. I’d call it about even.

    Black Death

    February 20, 2014 at 11:34 am

    • The Midwest sucks, because the smart and ambitious flyovers go to places such as NYC for school and work. If Midwesterners can give their coastal brethren a run for their money, then all this discussion about inequality would be a non-issue, for the most part.

      JS

      February 20, 2014 at 2:14 pm

  7. I would say wealth inequality in the US is minor in most counties. The media exaggerate…

    rob

    February 20, 2014 at 12:02 pm

  8. The rare NYT article that didn’t make me want to hit my head against a wall.

    So the lesson to be learned is blue areas= inequality.

    Mike

    February 20, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    • Blue areas have more amenities and non-Whites. Red areas are boring wastelands, where as blue areas are multicultural cesspools. That’s why America is a sh*tty place.

      JS

      February 20, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      • I thought Phoenix Arizona was very nice.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 4:15 pm

      • Have you been anywhere outside of the Tristate – NYC area, besides Arizona?

        JS

        February 20, 2014 at 9:38 pm

      • I’ve lived in Arizona, Northern Virginia, and near Albany NY (cold cloudy depressing winter).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 20, 2014 at 10:08 pm

      • Those places you mentioned are very prole. I would be much more inclined to travel to Winnipeg or Newfoundland, than a place such as Northern Virginia or even Albany. Canadian prole areas, at least have a mystique of exoticness.

        JS

        February 21, 2014 at 11:27 am

  9. I watch a lot home search shows on HGTV. One of the things I’ve learned is the massive cost of housing difference between cities. In places like Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City and Omaha $200k is considered an expensive house. $125k-$150k gets you a house in a “good neighborhood.”

    The fact the GOP doesn’t spin this into a positive narrative shows the stupidity of their leaders.

    dsgntd_plyr

    February 20, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    • Yes, I like those shows and the housing cost disparities are amazing. One other observation that I can’t understand are the young 24-year old couples looking at 3500 sq. ft. houses for $400K in relatively lower-cost places like FL, TX, & AZ. Heck, in FL, the annual property taxes would run $8K on a house like this. They’d be lucky to be earning $100K combined and can’t have much in savings at that age. I guess they might be getting some down payment assistance from parents.

      Or, the NAM couples buying $250K houses on FHA loans w/ close to 0% down.

      Or, the fact that every other couple is gay (or inter-racial).

      E. Rekshun

      February 21, 2014 at 5:30 am

  10. The parochialism displayed in this blog (and comments) never fails to amuse. We in flyover country are glad you think it sucks to live here. Please stay in NYC, SF, LA. Please don’t flee the messes you’ve created, move to flyover country and ruin our communities in turn. In fact, would you please vote to separate WNY from NYC? You can have Albany and everything SE.

    Bitter clinger

    February 21, 2014 at 9:57 am

    • I didn’t say that flyover country sucks, I said “no one from the NY Times would want to live in a state where Sam Brownback is the governor.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 21, 2014 at 10:28 am

    • I said America is a sh*tty place wherever you go. If it’s not the prolish humdrum of the Midwest, then it’s the SWPL insanity of the coastal areas, or the residue of the Confederacy in the South.

      JS

      February 21, 2014 at 11:16 am

      • The point is that you have to find your paradise where your values lie. If your values lie with higher institutional culture, a more vibrant economy, and the related amenities, then stick to the coasts. The price is the shitty people. If your values lie with he quality of the people, the move to somewhere carefully selected in flyover country. The price is lack of higher institutional culture, a less vibrant economy, and no related amenities.

        Yes, in the USA you can’t have it all. My values lie with the people, although the risk of iintergenerational low prolehood and the associated powerlessness for my progeny is a bit scary. Europe is the best, but that’s out of reach for almost all of us. Thanks great grandpa /sarc.

        Joe

        February 25, 2014 at 10:53 pm

    • Lion is parochial, because he still believes in the Ivy League – Value Transference – Hamptons triad, which of course, an exclusive Northeastern practice.

      JS

      February 21, 2014 at 11:22 am


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