Lion of the Blogosphere

In Brooklyn!

This is a previously unpublished photo from my summer visit to the Prospect Park South/Ditmas Park area of Brooklyn. I am showcasing this not because it’s such a great photo, but because this part of Brooklyn is so fascinating. Who would have known that a large Victorian house like this could be found in Brooklyn?

Twenty to thirty years ago, these houses were dirt cheap. The people who lived in the area fled because as nice as it looks, it was the ghetto. Houses here were routinely broken into and robbed. The owners were afraid to sleep in their own houses.

The safety of the area has improved since then. Houses now sell for more than a million dollars each, but that’s still a bargain because a house like this in Park Slope would sell for three times as much. That is, if any houses like this were even available for sale in Park Slope.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM

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  1. There’s an NYT article on hipsters moving to the Hudson Valley. I think there was one like this a year ago.


    February 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    • Thras, this be the article:

      The region gets more liberal with every election since 9-11.

      Exurban Curmudgeon

      February 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM

      • The “hipness” factor goes back a lot further than that. Don’t forget Woodstock is in the region, even though the 1969 festival took place in Bethel, NY, about an hour away. And The Band’s debut album in 1968 was called Music from Big Pink, referring to the house in Saugerties in which it was recorded.

        You are right, however, about the NYC escapees ruining the scenery. We have had a summer place in Jefferson County for almost twenty years, and the town in which it is located was once a GOP stronghold and is now competitive.


        February 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    • Buy one. Mortgage rates are going any lower, ever.

      Nicolai Yezhov

      February 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    • I thought the hipsters were moving from Brooklyn to Philadelphia?


      February 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM

  2. OT: I hate the comment format. I liked the other one better.


    February 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    • I said the same thing when he changed it.


      February 17, 2013 at 6:56 PM

  3. Prospect Park South’s been safe and respectable for long enough that it’s likely to stay that way. Spending a lot of money for a house in the ‘hood seems a reasonable decision, certainly more so than it would have been 10 or 15 years ago when the area’s return to respectability was more tentative.

    Property taxes on a similar house in any of the suburbs would be vastly higher, so even with NYC’s income tax a house like this might be a better deal than a suburban one.



    February 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    • Peter, one word – Queens!

      A neighborhood like Jamaica Estates, which is geographically NYC, sports many of these of homes.

      Queens, NYC’s suburbia isn’t where the city liberal urbanites would like to live. But maybe they would in the future. Some of Manhattan’s liberals have made their way into Astoria, LIC, and Forest Hills, where pockets of these neighborhoods look like the West Village.

      Then we also have Staten Island.

      By the way, let’s talk about Roosevelt Island again.

      This former mental institution is now a luxury condo for the upper middle class residents on the Island.

      Just Speculating

      February 17, 2013 at 11:52 PM

      • Lion should also take note that colleges are the now conduits for gentrification and expensivefication of former “less desirable” neighborhoods.

        Just Speculating

        February 17, 2013 at 11:55 PM

  4. There are pockets of gorgeous victorians scattered throughout the boroughs. Real gems & so beautiful if kept up.


    February 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM

  5. What is the school district like?

    de Broglie

    February 17, 2013 at 5:13 PM

  6. OT, did you see the video on the nytimes that the ubiquitous yogurt muffin has more than 700 calories (more than stated on the label) when subjected to rigorous investigation?


    February 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM

  7. BTW, the Panasonic LUMIX LX-7 dropped to $299 just this weekend. I tried to purchase through your the link in your website, but I don’t know if that worked or not. Thanks for the advice.

    albert magnus

    February 17, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    • Good luck with the camera, it’s the best you can get for that price. Thanks for using my link.

      No, I don’t see it on my Amazon report, but if you bought it today, maybe it will show up tomorrow and I will get a $5 commission.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 17, 2013 at 9:06 PM

  8. I really hope the rust-belt will see an occurrence similar to this. Detroit has some of the most beautiful mansions in the country, as do St. Louis and Pittsburgh. I predict that as gas prices rise, people will be forced out of cities like LA, Houston, and Atlanta. Detroit used to be the “3rd City” and it is unfortunate to see suburban sprawls overpass the few true cities this country has.

    Bob Jones

    February 17, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    • Housing costs are much cheaper in Houston than in many of the blue states. How does moving into the core urban areas and paying private school tuition, higher insurance rates, and higher food bills make up for higher gasoline costs?


      February 18, 2013 at 8:38 AM

      • I don’t know about Houston, but Atlanta and LA are choked on traffic. I don’t know about Detroit, but Buffalo has no traffic whatsoever. The nice thing about an infrastructure built for 500k people but currently with only 250k people is that it is really easy to drive anywhere.

        Chicago showcases both sides of this trend. Chicago traffic is awful, but coming in from the depopulated South Side is much easier than coming from the hipster north or wealthy west.

        The Engineer

        February 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM

      • Too bad the weather in Buffalo sucks so bad

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 18, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    • In places like Houston, the white population has compressed into the expensive sections of the city and the Hispanic immigration fills in the abandoned suburbs. Young white people moving into Houston will live in the apartments and condos inside the loop and not move out to the suburbs like my parents did.

      albert magnus

      February 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    • The only way where those decrepit areas of the midwest could be revitalized quickly into nice nighborhoods would be foreign investment. Perhaps we could convice rich foreigners to buy some of those old housing stock, and convert them into nice condos overnight. Other than that, it would take many years for gentrification to happen.

      Just Speculating

      February 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM

  9. when I lived in Kensington, I used to bike ride through these neighborhoods on the way to Brooklyn College. Some very pretty neighborhoods hidden away there in the center of the borough


    February 18, 2013 at 1:13 PM

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