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Shootout in Boston; crazy stuff going on

Hard to keep up with it. One of the “bombers” is dead. A cop is dead. The bombers may be jihadi from Chechneya. Or one of them may be a missing student from Brown University.

I doubt that either of them is from Brown. Robbing a 7/11 is very prole. An Ivy Leaguer would never do something stupid like that. He would have prepared better.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM

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  1. It was a MIT campus officer who was answering a burglary call. Looks like an ambush, not an officer shot in a shootout. The perils of a point man.

    Looks like police had the two in a shootout, but one got away. Strange. Maybe the perps had some training. But with any forethought, the two perps should have been far away from the crime scene. But then, maybe not. Nothing like hiding in plain sight.

    rightsaidfred

    April 19, 2013 at 7:00 AM

  2. Pete Williams says they are prob. Chechnyan.

    America is a nation of immigrants.

    Jayne

    April 19, 2013 at 7:08 AM

  3. They don’t particularly look like Chechens, and Chechens hate Russia far more than the US. “Chechen” terrorism sounds like someone has been watching too many silly Hollywood movies. Honestly, they kind of look Jewish, but I would not be surprised if they’re Turkish or even Iraqi. Iraqi would make the most sense.

    I agree the Brown thing seems like a stretch, and they don’t look Indian.

    Peter the Shark

    April 19, 2013 at 7:10 AM

    • Definitely Chechen Muslims. Go here to see the younger brother’s “Russian facebook” page:

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/what-we-know-about-boston-marathon-bomb-suspect-dzhokhar-tsa

      CamelCaseRob

      April 19, 2013 at 8:08 AM

      • He looks like Pete Townsend.

        Just Speculating

        April 19, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    • Anyone notice that one of them is named “Tamerlan” which is derivative of Tamerlane- also known as The Sword of Islam. Estimated to have killed 5% of the world population in the 14th century.

      Lion of the Turambar

      April 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      • Good observation. Doubtful most even here knew who that was beforehand though.

        Conquistador

        April 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    • There’s not really a single Chechen look. Check out these dudes: http://i.imgur.com/MkYQPhR.jpg

      About three of them look as white as me, and I’m entirely of European ancestry, mostly northern. Three of them, however, have a more stereotypical Middle Eastern look, and could possibly also pass for Hispanic in the U.S.

      anon666

      April 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

  4. Interesting, most Chechens are semitic on their father’s lineage and European on their mother’s… much like Ashkenazi Jews…. Yet they overwhelmingly are of the Islamic faith and have serious problems with terrorism linked with said religion.

    Well looks like you were kind of right on the identities of the perps. Though one doesn’t usually think of Chechens when you hear “Muslim terrorist” – unless you’re Russian. Also, I wouldn’t call the Chechens the stereotypical brown people as they look eerily similar to the Ashkenazim (just google for Chechen people): a phenotypic mileu of Southern Europeans with some hints of their Middle Eastern ancestry.

    1010

    April 19, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    • “the stereotypical brown people”: for God’s sake! Americans have been seeing coverage from Iraq and Afghanistan for years and are still capable of saying such dim things! Hadn’t you noticed that many Iraqis are as white as, or whiter than, many “white” Americans?

      dearieme

      April 19, 2013 at 7:54 AM

      • Chechens are Caucasians. Who says they are Semitic on paternal side, and European on mother’s? Supply a cite, a URL.

        “They don’t particularly look like Chechens” – does this idiot know what a Chechen looks like? They look very Chechen.

        Lion,

        When are you going to admit you were wrong about there being two perps?

        Jayne

        April 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM

      • Tell it to George Carlin —

        “Can’t educate our young people, get health care to our old people. But we can bomb the shìt out of your country alright! Especially if your country is full of brown people. Oh we like that don’t we? That’s our hobby: Bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya…you got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the fúck out, or we’ll god-damn bomb them!”

        Tarl

        April 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    • 1010 I just looked up Chechen genetics on Wikipedia. You are one fucking dodo. Look it up yourself if you are able.

      Jayne

      April 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      • It clearly says ~50-60% of the sampled Y-DNA is of haplogroup J, this particular variant being spread across the Mediterranean, South Caucasus and the Fertile Crescent. Note it does not present in Northern European populations. Also note what oogenhand posted about this haplogroup’s genetically closest group being that Y-DNA haplogroup I. Last of all, ~40% of Jews have haplogroup J genetic makeup.

        Please learn to comprehend things before you run your mouth off.

        1010

        April 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM

      • Y chromosome haplogroup J does appear in Northern European populations, though not to the degree of R1b (Western Europe) or R1a (Eastern Europe).. Mitochondrial DNA haplogroup J, also thought to be a Neolithic entrant into Europe, also appears in Northern European populations. Given how much older Y haplogroup J is than the Semitic language group and that some subclades of haplogroup J that are common in both modern Semitic-speaking and non-Semitic speaking populations (e.g. J-M172) may not have been strongly associated with the first Semitic speakers, it isn’t really accurate to label all of Y haplogroup J a marker of Semitic ancestry. And if you want to get a better sense of population ancestry, autosomal studies have improved to the point that, assuming appropriate reference populations are used, they are more informative. The uniparental markers are best for tracing specific migrations, but they may not be truly reflective of a population’s total ancestry.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_European_populations

        nebbish

        April 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM

      • @nebbish, I misspoke when I said the haplogroup J does not present in Northern Europeans. I simply meant to quote the very wikipedia link Jayne had referenced (they state that those are the regions in which the particular J-subtype is prevelant).

        However, it is very easy to tell using the link you provided that the haplogroup J is definitely much more prevalent in non-Northern European populations (i.e. ethnics not really considered “white”). In fact, the presence in Northern Europe that you cite is trivial (e.g. French (~5%), Germans (~4%), Swedes (0%), British (0%)), while the percentage is much higher in other groups (e.g. Ashkenazim (40%), Greek Cretes (~40%)).

        Also, I think you’re conflating the term I used “Semitic” with the actual term linguists use to describe people who speak the Semitic languages. I simply meant to describe the likely population origins of haplogroup J (as previously described, its distribution suggests an origin in the same area as the Semitic languages, though the timing may be different and it is certain that not all J-grouped people are Semitic in the linguistic sense).

        1010

        April 22, 2013 at 2:54 AM

    • I advanced the theory that Ashkenazim are derived from an Udmurt-Chechen alliance that chose Turkish as language for the same reasons they chose Judaism as a religion. The Semitic Y-chromosomes could be the result of “Old” Jews imposing a mawali/kafa’a system on the “New” Jews. Note that haplotype J is closely related to haplotype I, at least closer than haplotypes R1a, R1b, and N.

      oogenhand

      April 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM

  5. Why even run if you are guilty? Just surrender and mug for the camera, and announce you did it because Amerikkka is an evil country with too many guns and too many rich people, and terrorism is the only way to get your message out there.

    Maybe they were heading to MIT to get noam chomsky to be their spokesman.

    rightsaidfred

    April 19, 2013 at 7:24 AM

  6. A mentally ill Ivy leaguer might be unpredictable.

    Melykin

    April 19, 2013 at 7:25 AM

  7. Anyway I agree with the chap who commented on the post below; a good reason to assume that it was mad moslems who did this was that the media hadn’t fingered the perps as white Americans.

    dearieme

    April 19, 2013 at 7:55 AM

  8. Sounds like I was wrong and they are Chechens. What’s the motivation then? Why not kill Russians or Armenians? I wonder if America is now simply the go to place to commit terrorism because it’s easy to get in and you are sure to get lots of publicity.

    Peter the Shark

    April 19, 2013 at 8:14 AM

  9. Here are some photos of the older brother boxing:

    http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery/-/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/

    CamelCaseRob

    April 19, 2013 at 8:22 AM

  10. > I doubt that either of them is from Brown. Robbing a 7/11 is very prole. An Ivy Leaguer would never do something stupid like that. He would have prepared better.

    LOL. Awesome.

    tjic (@tjic)

    April 19, 2013 at 8:25 AM

  11. Maybe they killed Sunil to steal his ID and credit cards. Very strange for a Brown senior from a big and loving upper class family to vanish without warning.

    Zog

    April 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

  12. The terrorists in Boston are Muslims? Wow, what a “big surprise” for us all. They freaked out, killed/wounded police, engaged in a firefight with scores of police and are armed with IEDs? Hard luck, MSM narrative: there is no way to spin this into homegrown right wing terror, and your “most favored religion” is to blame once more. That idiotic leftist writer who was literally praying for this to be a white right winger in slate is likely pouting like a five year old, with their candy taken away, at this very moment.

    Sanjuro

    April 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM

  13. “An Ivy Leaguer would never do something stupid like that. He would have prepared better.”

    Agreed. An Ivy Leaguer would become an investment banker, take a huge position in some exotic product, have it blow up, loss billions of dollars, and then have the tax payers bail out their bank!

    And make sure they get their bonus for all those years of hard work!

    Wade Nichols

    April 19, 2013 at 9:08 AM

  14. It gets better. Supposedly the younger brother went to Cambridge Rindge & Latin. I’ll quote wikipedia:

    “As of 2009, Cambridge Rindge and Latin remains one of the most diverse schools in the United States, with over 83 different countries represented within its halls.”

    Yay, diversity. The benefits just keep on coming.

    Peter the Shark

    April 19, 2013 at 9:14 AM

  15. Dude killed in the shootout had the dream. Here is him with his pretty blond girlfriend, who (against the backdrop of modern overweight America) has to rate as a 9 or higher.

    http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Will-Box-For-Passport/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/I0000kjbwUqXuuXk

    http://johanneshirn.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Will-Box-For-Passport/G0000VQW7v6xWA7o/I0000LMvBfr7Y3JM

    And yet even he goes Jihadi? What does that say about about the religion the Obama is working to establish absolutely in Libya, Egypt and now Syria?

    Dan

    April 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    • There are two kinds of terrorism. Unsophisticated west bank terrorism where you are some poor fuck and people offer to pay your family $10,000 if you blow yourself up. That kind of terrorism is always local and low planning.

      Foreign and high planning terrorism is almost always done by people who have some things going on in their lives. Many of the 9/11 hujackers were reasonably “successful”. OBL was a millionaire heir. What a lot of people here can’t seem to understand is that “success” isn’t enough for some people. Achieving success will actually make them more likely to do these things (since once they achieve “success” they know it doesn’t pacify them).

      asdf

      April 19, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    • She may be a 9 in America, but not in his native Russia. She would be more like in the high 6 or 7 range over there. But still far from a reason to get frustrated about to the point of snapping like this.

      Nyk

      April 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    • Alphas get the hot girls. Note the patrilinearity. Patrilinearity in fact adds to sexual attractiveness (of males).

      oogenhand

      April 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

  16. Yes, the captions in the photo essay say that it is indeed his girlfriend.

    Dan

    April 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

  17. I applaud the Boston Boyz and so should everyone else.

    These guys pretty much killed the upcoming amnesty bill.

    Conquistador

    April 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM

  18. An Ivy Leaguer would have prepared better? Like these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Village_townhouse_explosion

    Bill Raynor

    April 19, 2013 at 11:06 AM


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