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Not guilty!

Will there be riots?

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I am not at all SURPRISED that Zimmerman was found not guilty. As I said many times during the last week or two, the jury was viewing the evidence without the MSM telling them how to think, so they’d probably see it correctly. Of course, it was never a 100% sure thing. Juries can do crazy things. But I’m glad they make the correct decision.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 13, 2013 at 11:40 PM

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  1. Ha, not in New York.

    Renault

    July 13, 2013 at 11:43 PM

  2. Another stupid jury verdict. What a complete non-surprise.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    July 13, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    • Not sure how that is a stupid verdict. Please explain.

      9mm

      July 14, 2013 at 12:00 AM

      • I think it’s called sarcasm. I’m both surprised and happy. I thought for sure an all gal jury would split the difference.

        So, America;s not dead quite yet.

        JG

        July 14, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    • Given the jury’s instructions, they had no choice but to return a “not guilty” verdict. See LotB’s previous post on the jury’s instructions. (I don’t know how to embed links in the comments, so just scroll upwards until you see the link.)

      Blog Raju

      July 14, 2013 at 3:22 AM

    • You mean that it is stupid when a jury finds an innocent man innocent?

      Joe Walker

      July 14, 2013 at 10:45 PM

  3. No – no riots. Black people expected a “not guilty” verdict.

    Blog Raju

    July 13, 2013 at 11:45 PM

  4. Don’t know, but considering I just got out of work and got home, I’ve made some preparations…

    9mm

    July 13, 2013 at 11:45 PM

  5. I don’t think so. I never thought there would be. This trial happened in my backyard. Sanford is certainly not amenable to rioting, either demographically or in terms of city layout. There is no downtown to speak of except a small “historic district” consisting of a brick-paved street with SWPL stores and restaurants.

    Miami is possible but not likely, I think.

    Tanizaki

    July 13, 2013 at 11:50 PM

  6. deez cracka bitches be trippin yo

    G-Dog

    July 13, 2013 at 11:56 PM

  7. So basically if you have a gun and you get in a fight, no matter how it starts, you can shoot the person if you’re losing badly enough. Because if you’re losing then you have a legitimate fear that the person is gonna take the gun and shoot you or possibly kill you with their bare hands. Is that basically the Florida law?

    reynald

    July 14, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    • Reynald is not from America and is just learning about our laws. In other countries such as the UK you are supposed to let your skull be broken open on the pavement like an egg.

      Of course there is no case for self-defense if you are the aggressor, but there is not a shred of actual evidence that Zimmerman started the fight. Looking at someone wrong or even following them is not starting a fight or attacking.

      You don’t have a right to attack someone who is following you. For all you know someone could be trying to hand you the car keys that you dropped.

      Dan

      July 14, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      • I am american. I’m not making specific claims about what happened to Zimmerman. It just seems that if you have a gun, and if the other person is angry enough at you and winning the fight than, under Florida law, you have a right to shoot the person without any examination of how the fight started. I want to see if someone who is actually informed can tell me if this is the case.

        Specifically with regards to Zimmerman, I think its highly likely that Martin initiated the fight but also that Zimmerman acted like a reckless idiot by not defusing the confrontation when he had the chance to. If you’re gonna clam up when some ghetto looking person shoots you dirty looks than you have no place doing what he did. I think his main claim to being in fear of his life was that he had a gun and that Martin would shoot him if he gained control of it.

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    • Yep, that is pretty much Florida law, both before and after Zimmerman’s trial. Avoid fights.

      Daniel

      July 14, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    • Guess you didn’t read the previous post on the justifiable use of deadly force.

      The rules are so simple that even the dummies on the jury could understand them and apply them!

      Tarl

      July 14, 2013 at 1:25 AM

      • I thought I did read them properly and was asking if anyone could show me how I am wrong in the abstract (not as it specifically relates to Zimmerman)

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    • Change ‘get in a fight’ to ‘be assaulted’ and you might be on the right track. Nice try though.

      DelFuego

      July 14, 2013 at 2:30 AM

    • In “Stand Your Ground States?” Yes. In 2008 two rival gangs had a shoot-out in Tallahassee and both gang members that invoked self-defense were let go. The judge was pissed, but he said he had no choice since they “reasonably believed that such force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themselves.” http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/92183289.html

      In “Castle Doctrine” states this is true on your property. Hell, there was a case the NYT wrote about last year from Montana where a guy shot his neighbor because he *thought* his neighbor was coming over to start a fight (neighbor was banging the guy’s wife).

      aki (@DSGNTD_PLYR)

      July 14, 2013 at 3:51 AM

      • I don’t think stand your ground ever came in play or would be necessary in the hypothetical situation I was talking about. It just seems like in Florida you can kill someone if you have a legitimate fear of great harm or death and that anyone with a gun losing a fight badly enough would have that fear.

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    • Exactly, reynald. It gives one a perverse incentive to initiate and escalate altercations. Have gun, will provoke.

      Getting your ass kicked in a fight you picked? No problem. Just claim fear of death and blast away. Who’s going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you didn’t feel that way? For idiots like Zimmerman, emotion trumps responsibility. It’s no wonder why Florida attracts so many people like him.

      Lion, you really should check yourself in how celebratory and gloating you get, as it’s reminiscent of how average black people acted when OJ was acquitted– they knew he was guilty, but felt they were getting one over on a system that was rigged against them. Using George Zimmerman as a vessel for your political, cultural, and racial views is a bad idea, and runs counter to your original purpose in creating the new blog. In short, it’s transparent.

      I don’t believe even you think that had Martin been white that Zimmerman wouldn’t have been convicted of manslaughter, which he was certainly guilty of. HBD truly has no future when it’s most fervent supporters are so nakedly cheering the utterly needless killing of a black minor.

      Being racist isn’t the most evil thing in the world, but it is pretty damn vile and this shows why.

      Jack

      July 14, 2013 at 8:00 AM

      • I’m gloating because I was right.

        Blacks gloated after OJ because one of their own got away with murder; for them, racial solidarity with OJ trumped whether OJ actually killed two innocent people.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 14, 2013 at 9:13 AM

      • Relax. There will still be plenty of shootings of blacks by blacks in Chicago that you can say nothing about. Whine ya later…

        Michigan

        July 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      • “Getting your ass kicked in a fight you picked?”

        Where exactly did zimmerman pick a fight? There was no evidence of this and in the numerous statements zimmerman gave– without an attorney present– he is consistent in that he was abruptly attacked and found himself on the ground. Martin turned back from his father’s house to confront zimmerman, this was confirmed even by the phone friend dee dee.

        islandmommy

        July 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      • And you have racial solidarity with an afro peruvian american?

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 1:13 PM

      • Where exactly did zimmerman pick a fight? There was no evidence of this and in the numerous statements zimmerman gave– without an attorney present– he is consistent in that he was abruptly attacked and found himself on the ground. Martin turned back from his father’s house to confront zimmerman, this was confirmed even by the phone friend dee dee.

        This thread is a broad discussion about the Florida laws governing self defense. Specifically with regards to Zimmerman, there was a major inconsistency in Zimmerman’s account in that Martin’s body ended up ~30 ft from where he claimed the fight started. And, as I’ve said a bunch of times, following someone the way he did was reckless and provocative.

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      • Jack proves SWPL transcends party and ideological labels. The entire GOP establishment is like him.

        precisekumshot

        July 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

      • @Jack

        Why do you think Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter? Stand Your Ground or not, this was a clear cut case of self defense, or at the very least, there was reasonable doubt about whether or not it was self defense. Even if Zimmerman had a duty to retreat, it would be irrelevant because he was on his back while Martin was committing an aggravated assault against him.

        Robert

        July 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      • If Trayvon were white Zimmerman would not have been charged much less convicted of manslaughter. Your assumptions are not just wrong, they are the opposite of correct.

        Curle

        July 15, 2013 at 12:53 AM

      • @reynald

        Actually, Lion, I, and others here have solidarity with our laws and system of justice. This is illustrated by the fact that most or all of us likely didn’t protest or riot after a jury acquitted OJ Simpson of two vicious murders that he obviously committed out of anger. It wasn’t even a self defense case. The fact that you and others side with TM, and likely Simpson, out of racial solidarity and can’t conceive how we could side with GZ since we don’t have racial solidarity with him, illustrates how unsuitable we are together as co-nationalists. We just have a different vision of society and its necessary mechanics.

        Tom

        August 8, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    • I am not sure zimmerman was in a fight. He was more like being attacked and beaten up, and trayvon also attacked first.

      AsianDude

      July 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM

      • How do you know Trayvon attacked first? Zimmerman? Uh, he killed the other witness. You’re making an assumption.

        aki (@DSGNTD_PLYR)

        July 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM

      • I think that he acted recklessly even for someone without a gun by not calmly talking to Martin when, earlier in the evening, Martin saw Zimmerman following him in his car and walked right past it looking at him. If you can’t act responsibly in that situation than you have no business following people in your car. With a gun, you have even more of an obligation to act responsibly because any fight you get into can elevate very quickly into something deadly.

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    • I believe you can shoot the person if you believe that your life is in danger. This is called self-defense.

      Joe Walker

      July 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      • And you think this applies regardless of how you got into the situation where you feared for your life? Shouldn’t people carrying guns be held to some kind of strict standard because essentially any fight that they are losing gives them both a legitimate fear for their lives and the means to kill the other person near instantly.

        reynald

        July 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    • No, Reynaldo. If a mixed MMA guy “gets in” a mixed MMA fight in Las Vegas and is losing badly, he cannot shoot his opponent. On the other hand, if the MMA opponent and his “posse” are waiting in an alley and start pounding on him, he can shoot them dead. In both cases the two people “get in a fight”. Context is everything.

      Big Nick Digger

      July 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      • You’re just throwing out one extreme black-and-white case. Interesting moral arguments happen when you confront the grey areas.

        reynald

        July 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    • No, basically if some some hoodie drug dealer starts trying to kill you by pounding your head into the pavement you are allowed to shoot him. There was never any evidence that Zimmerman instigated this. Common sense dictates he would have pulled out his gun if he had and Martin would never have got close enough to smack him up.

      laheretique

      July 16, 2013 at 8:54 AM

  8. I have no horses in this but some people here are probably upset that a prole got off, since for them being a prole is worse than being black.

    The origin of this whole mess is that the swpl types would rather associate with other races of their intellectual level than proles of the same race, and since swpls are not numerous enough they will just follow whatever the elites throw on them to the ruin of the whole race.

    colmainen

    July 14, 2013 at 12:08 AM

  9. I live in a Black dominant (SWPL-ascendent) neighborhood and I think everyone is simply too drunk on win to riot (I am).

    SPWL2

    July 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    • That’s “wine”, but being drunk on “win” also works.

      SPWL2

      July 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM

  10. I heard Giuliani on the radio thursday morning. He said there wouldn’t be riots because black people “aren’t as angry as they used to be.” And he pointed out that race was never overtly mentioned during the trial except for a few witness statements or interviews that were played for the jury.

    islandmommy

    July 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    • there wouldn’t be riots because black people “aren’t as angry as they used to be.”

      Isn’t that actually true? It seems that way to me, but I’m open to other opinions.

      Samson J.

      July 14, 2013 at 9:26 PM

      • I’m not sure how you’d measure that. I think there are two reasons there haven’t been riots. 1) enough black people understand, even if they won’t admit it, that martin was the physical aggressor in the fatal encounter, and 2) most americans, including black people, are too fat to riot, especially in midsummer heat.

        My sense is the press is very disappointed there haven’t been riots.

        islandmommy

        July 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM

  11. Things were pretty calm in Center City Philadelphia tonight 20 minutes after the verdict was read while I was on my way home.

    I’m relieved that Zimmerman was found not guilty, but I have no desire to gloat. I understand how polarizing this case is and how uninformed people could be very upset.

    Robert

    July 14, 2013 at 12:13 AM

  12. If there are riots, I hope the swpl take the brunt of it.

    James McKeane

    July 14, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    • Let’s hope they do. But Lion isn’t going to be safe. High proles and SWPLs are for the most part indistinguishable.

      JS

      July 14, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    • Blacks usually take the brunt of black violence.

      carnival man

      July 14, 2013 at 2:53 AM

  13. Also, I know this is not something to make light of, but these birds are so adorable.

    islandmommy

    July 14, 2013 at 12:15 AM

  14. Wouldn’t totally be unheard of for the DA to file perjury or obstruction charges. Thats been known to happen when the prosecution loses their case. They really don’t need any real evidence, just a compliant media.

    James McKeane

    July 14, 2013 at 12:17 AM

  15. Zimmerman’s far from in the clear. How much you wanna bet that the Feds are going to pull that violation-of-civil-rights-pay-no-attention-to-the-constitutional-prohibition-on-double-jeopardy gambit?

    Daniel

    July 14, 2013 at 12:55 AM

  16. Blacks may not be rioting in the cities. But fascists are rioting on twitter.

    The only logical conclusion one can draw from their thinking is that ghetto black youths have an inalienable right to beat the shit out of whoever they wish without their victim defending themselves.

    Some Guy

    July 14, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    • Yup, seems to be what they think.

      melykin

      July 14, 2013 at 5:16 PM

  17. Check out Facebook, all the white fundamentalist liberals are posting hand-wringing status updates to score moral superiority points with other white fundamentalist liberals (and maybe also hoping to impress the three black friends on their roster).

    By the way, do you like the term “fundamentalist liberal?” I’m trying to coin it.

    Sheila Tone

    July 14, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    • After checking Facebook this morning, I take back my previous comment about not wanting to gloat. The social justice warriors that I know sure are angry, and it doesn’t seem like any of them paid attention to the trial. None of them seem to realize that they’re part of an angry mob that wants to see a minority sent to prison for decades because of racial politics and public outrage, not facts.

      It’s stuff like this that makes me want to move to flyover country.

      Robert

      July 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    • I’ll trade you one “fundamentalist liberal” For a “Revolutionary Courts.” That’s the term I’m trying to get started. It describes either an actual legal prosecution, like Zimmerman’s that is strictly driven by a political agenda, or a raping in the media crushing your reputation, like Paula Dean, Obama supporter and fundraiser, now being declared the most butter coated racist in the US.

      As far as the trial verdict goes, I have to admit, I called this wrong. I thought that the jurors would be too frightened of reprisals to let Zimmerman go. Now that they aren’t sequestered, I’m wondering what their twitter feed looks like?

      Mike

      July 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    • By the way, do you like the term “fundamentalist liberal?” I’m trying to coin it.

      I like it, and you might as well use it. After all, “fundamentalist atheist” is already common currency.

      Samson J.

      July 14, 2013 at 9:28 PM

  18. Martin would still be alive and Zimmerman would be free of this whole ordeal had the latter decided not to carry a gun.

    Vince, the Lionhearted

    July 14, 2013 at 2:34 AM

    • Zimmerman MIGHT be dead if hadn’t had a gun. (I think it’s more likely than not that wouldn’t have happened, but it was a possibility, especially if Martin was really banging his had against the concrete.)

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM

      • “MIGHT be dead”

        Martin was not only pummeling zimmerman but trying to smother him. He describes his “head exploding” while unable to breathe which indicates he was probably close to losing consciousness.

        islandmommy

        July 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM

      • He would have never gotten out of the car if he hadn’t had a gun.

        Scipio Africanus

        July 14, 2013 at 10:46 AM

      • A major reason why the US has such a high murder rate is that what would just be fist fights in other countries end up with people getting shot.

        reynald

        July 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM

      • Reynald, you are such a girl. There are not so many murders in the USA among whites. Whites in the USA have about the same murder rates as whites in Europe. The European average = the USA white average. Only 10 whites murdered in Chicago in 2011. There are over a million whites in Chicago.

        not too late

        July 14, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      • No, the US has a high murder rate because it’s 30% NAM (more in the 15-30 age group), instead of the 5% or less that civilized countries typically have.

        newdist

        July 14, 2013 at 6:18 PM

      • According to this western europe has an average murder rate of 1 per 100,000. According to this not a single american state no matter how old, white, or sparsely populated has a murder rate that low. I also imagine that the american numbers understate their murder rate relative to europe because in europe far fewer deaths are classified as justifiable homicides.

        My understanding is that Hispanics (many, but not all of whom, are white) are considered white when reporting crime. Theres no easy way to disentangle the numbers and you’re just assuming that all white criminals are hispanic and that they don’t count as white no matter how much european lineage they have. The fact that sparsely populate states full of old white people still have such high crime rates relative to western europe strongly indicates that you are making a faulty assumption. People like Ron Unz have argued that Hispanics (especially south american rather than Caribbean ones) have crime rates very similar to that of non hispanic whites when you adjust for age.

        And eastern europe has even fewer NAMS than western europe and their murder rate is 6.4 times that of western europe. The US of the early 1990s had far fewer NAMs than now but the murder rate has still been steadily decreasing.

        reynald

        July 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      • reynald,

        Have a look at NDakota’s murder rates. LOWER than W Europe’s or same. Then in 2012 a huge jump.

        Hispanic population increase?

        North Dakota led the pack, with a 15.5 percent jump in its Latino population between July 2011 and July 2012. The Latino community there grew to 17,230 from 14,916 in just one year, Census officials said Friday.

        Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2013/06/14/census-highest-latino-growth-rates-seen-in-states-with-lowest-unemployment/#ixzz2ZDK5zU9w

        JG

        July 16, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    • Martin would also be alive if he had not chosen to attack Zimmerman. The moral of this tale is that it is unwise to attack people who might be carrying guns.

      Joe Walker

      July 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

      • They both acted like idiots.

        reynald

        July 15, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      • One person defending his community from crime and the other some wanna be ghetto thug calling himself NO LIMIT NIGGA. There are indeed two idiots here reynald one of them is dead and the other is you.

        Conquistador

        July 15, 2013 at 11:52 PM

      • There has been a lot of stupidity from both sides but the right wing attempts to portray Trayvon Martin’s adolescent posturing as somehow indicative of his real personality is about as bad anything from the left.

        reynald

        July 16, 2013 at 1:14 AM

      • Feel free to move to any murder and crime infested area of America.

        There you’ll meet plenty of NO LIMIT NIGGAS enjoying their “youth”.

        Conquistador

        July 16, 2013 at 12:17 PM

  19. Since George Zimmerman has a record of killing someone in a fight, doesn’t that mean anyone that gets in a fight with Zimmerman could kill him because they’d reasonably believe that such force was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themselves?

    aki (@DSGNTD_PLYR)

    July 14, 2013 at 4:00 AM

    • The important lesson here is don’t get into a fight with George Zimmerman.

      Joe Walker

      July 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM

  20. I was very surprised that it took the jury so long; the case against Zimmerman was so thin. Maybe there was a stealth juror who had drunk the liberal koolaid and lied about her exposure at voir dire.

    sabril

    July 14, 2013 at 4:10 AM

    • It’s possible they already had their minds made up, but waited around for a day or two for appearances. Returning after only an hour would have sparked greater public dismay. Taking one’s time is the wise move, and at least one of six middle-aged women is going to be wise.

      This is also supported by the timing of their decision. There are fewer demonstrators waiting with bated breath, at 10:00 at night, and eight hours or more for the news to go stale.

      Lowe D

      July 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM

      • Yes that thought occurred to me. It might even have been suggested to them that they should return a verdict late at night.

        But today I heard that one of the jurors was black or black Hispanic or something. I have a feeling that the other 5 wanted to acquit Zimmerman pronto but the black one held out for some kind of conviction. A dispute like that would explain why the jurors asked for an index of evidence and clarification about the manslaughter charges.

        Probably during deliberations the holdout juror made some kind of vague BS claim about the evidence which had been presented and the other jurors obtained a list of exhibits so that the holdout juror would be forced to specify which piece of evidence she was talking about. Probably the holdout juror did something similar on the manslaughter issue.

        sabril

        July 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      • @sabril
        I heard that the lone Hispanic on the jury seemed to be openly contemptuous of Rachel Jeantel when Jeantel was testifying.

        melykin

        July 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM

  21. When I saw the verdict, the first thing I did was call my parents and tell them to be careful for the next couple of weeks. Their city has bad demographics and a high crime rate. I doubt there will be any riots but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a spike in attacks or flashmobs with people shouting “This is for Trayvon!” It’s better to play it safe for awhile.

    destructure

    July 14, 2013 at 4:40 AM

  22. Most of the protesters in California are white Occupy-types as seen in the photo below:

    Just as I suspected. It’s the privileged whites who are causing more problems than blacks. Most blacks are sorta upset, but have a more complacent, “It sucks, but that’s life” attitude. Some white people vandalized a transit police car in Oakland by spray painting “Kill Pigs” and F*ck Off” on it.

    “Another user reports that Oakland unrest reports are not protestors from Trayvon Martin rallies, saying white “college kids” have been the ones rioting in small numbers.”

    “Juicy J Crillz @jcrillz says.
    The people tearing up stuff in downtown oakland just now are not brown.”

    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/847304/oakland-riots-trayvon-verdict-breaking/#eJbJfyoA10m9C4Zm.99

    bobo

    July 14, 2013 at 6:57 AM

    • Occupiers are for the most part proles who lean liberal. They’re a group by themselves.

      JS

      July 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    • There are plenty of pissed off poor black people too.

      reynald

      July 14, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      • Yeah but they need help to protest and this time the Justice Dept. isn’t there to help.

        not too late

        July 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM

      • No trial is ever needed to have pissed off, poor blacks. That’s just the way they are. You really need to get a clue about reality. Why don’t you visit Detroit?

        Michigan

        July 14, 2013 at 10:24 PM

      • When are blacks not pissed off?

        Joe Walker

        July 14, 2013 at 10:57 PM

      • I meant pissed off about Zimmerman. Theres plenty of pissed off educated white people both generally speaking and specifically about the trial.

        reynald

        July 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    • The protestors are correct about one thing. If it hadn’t been for the wide spread promotion of black racism (scapegoating whites for black failures like Trayvon’s bad judgment in attacking Zimmerman) Zimmerman never would have been charged. In fact, where would blacks be without the establishment creating moral panics in order to scapegoat black failures?

      Curle

      July 15, 2013 at 12:59 AM

  23. pic.twitter.com/v1PQVs5EpQ

    bobo

    July 14, 2013 at 6:58 AM

  24. Now, will the DOJ try him on the grounds he violated the civil rights of Martin?

    CamelCaseRob

    July 14, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    • What about the family with a wrongful death suit? That seems more likely, well, except that GZ has nothing to get.

      not too late

      July 14, 2013 at 5:32 PM

      • If I understand it correctly, Florida law immunizes you from prosecution in cases of lawful self-defense.

        Tarl

        July 15, 2013 at 7:20 AM

  25. What is interesting in watching the media reaction on the Sunday morning shows is how every black commentator keeps referring to Martin as a black boy. I believe that if any white person referred to any 17 y/o black male as a boy, those whites would be immediately called racist. Is also odd to hear all of the Ivy League educated blacks on thew new networks who are talking about how hard it is to be black in the U.S. when they all have their jobs because they are black.

    superdestroyer

    July 14, 2013 at 9:51 AM

  26. Love my conealed permit even more now.

    IC

    July 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM

  27. This verdict is a catastrophic defeat for Whiskey-ism.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 14, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    • I was turned off by Whiskey’s blatant conservatism two years ago, as I realize his analysis is largely partisan advocacy.

      Black_Rose

      July 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

      • His main shtick — “Women hate hate hate beta males” — is conservative?

        Tarl

        July 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM

      • Conservative or not it’s true. Another Whiskey-ism is “the wrong sort of white” the female variant he describes as into prole media like The New York Post which focuses on gossip and crime because unlike their wealthier sisters lower class white women (like the Zimmerman jurors) can’t afford to be like “nice white ladies”.

        Conquistador

        July 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    • This is true. Some of what whiskey says has some merit but he thinks all white women are alike, when they have so many differences among them.

      Jack

      July 14, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    • There weren’t any attractive blonde bimbos on the jury.

      JS

      July 14, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    • Whiskey will just argue that the jury was turned on by Zimmerman’s partial black ancestry.

      Joe Walker

      July 14, 2013 at 11:00 PM

  28. Doesn’t appear to be any rioting. Looks the Steve Jobs era of 24/7 iPhone distractions and black obesity have tranquilized most of the black population.

    This is another point in favor of my plan to legalize weed as a way to mellow out and lower the sex drive of the incompatible NAM races. Are there any other drugs that could be legalized – other than marijuana – which are known to lower aggression and sex drive? Cocaine is a no-no since it sends aggression through the rough and played a big part in the black crime epidemic.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    • It would take a lot more ruthlessness to eradicate much of the problems associated with Blacks. Laws along the lines of Sharia, would instill fear and forced civic mindedness of the less desirables.

      JS

      July 14, 2013 at 2:24 PM

      • Riotings will be isolated events, where a small band of blacks will attack their victims. It may not be today or tomorrow. Wait and you’ll see!

        JS

        July 14, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      • I don’t think anyone would consider that a “riot”, though.

        Empty Suit

        July 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

      • Sporadic incidents wouldn’t be considered riots. However, small bands of blacks attacking their victims for the Zimmerman “not guilty” verdict will happen sometime soon. Crime committed by Blacks have not decreased in the past decade. What makes you think it will going forward? The recent SWPL gentrification of the big cities, has in fact elicit more black jealousy of Whites, where they live in their own isolated urban quarters of squalor, separated from the Bobos who live in their pricey condos in the heart of any major metropolis.

        JS

        July 15, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    • Probably internet porn will have a positive effect on this point. I predict that sexual assault rates will start to drop dramatically over the next 5 yeas.

      sabril

      July 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

      • Probably internet porn will have a positive effect on this point. I predict that sexual assault rates will start to drop dramatically over the next 5 yeas.

        That’s a fine point. But shouldn’t porn already be having this effect since the internet has made it ubiquitous for years now?

        It would take a lot more ruthlessness to eradicate much of the problems associated with Blacks.

        It would be easy to deal with the blacks without the support of the liberals. Welfare for sterilization plus payments to criminals to get sterilized plus a nationwide “project prevention” campaign to sterilize drug addicts, prostitutes, and other self destructive delinquents would crash the black and Hispanic birthrates to below 1.

        The blacks would have no idea what was going on either without the left: abortion has prevented 15 million blacks from being born since Roe v Wade but hardly any blacks even know the demographic toll abortion’s taken on blacks sine the liberals fully support abortion.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        July 14, 2013 at 3:58 PM

      • “That’s a fine point. But shouldn’t porn already be having this effect since the internet has made it ubiquitous for years now?”

        Well you need a high speed link to get the really addictive stuff. And once you have it, it takes a while to get hooked to the point where you are dependent on it. So I would guess that porn hasn’t fully penetrated the market yet. (haha)

        sabril

        July 15, 2013 at 4:25 AM

      • Well you need a high speed link to get the really addictive stuff.

        Right.

        American high speed internet is still too expensive for most blacks more or less. The tranquilizing effect of porn has on blacks is still manifesting itself in crime/dysfunction stats with a lag.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        July 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM

  29. Something I want to ask a liberal if one ever discusses the verdict with me: “what laws did Zimmerman break?”

    In other words, based on the available evidence and reasonable interpretation of events that led to the shooting, did ZImmerman actually break any law? not rhetorical.

    PA

    July 14, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    • According to the jury and many legal experts he did not break any law that he was charged with which is why he is now a free man.

      Joe Walker

      July 14, 2013 at 11:02 PM

  30. This is a good article about what average guys on the street thought about the verdict. I think we probably all agree with Howie Felterbush.

    http://www.11alive.com/news/article/298843/40/The-system-has-failed-Crowds-react-to-Zimmerman-verdict

    GMR

    July 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    • Well, the biased MSM won’t tell us how guys on the street think if their thoughts don’t agree with the “correct” narrative. So this creates a circle in which people who decide what to think based on news media reporting of what people are thinking…

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM

  31. When does Zimmerman get his gun back?

    E. Rekshun

    July 14, 2013 at 12:36 PM

  32. From the jury instructions: “If in your consideration of the issue of self-defense you have a reasonable doubt on the question of whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you should find George Zimmerman not guilty.”

    As far as I know this is not true in most states. In Florida, if a defendant simply asserts that he killed someone in self defense, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not self defense.

    On the other hand, if you are a black woman who has a restraining order against her estranged husband who tried to strangle her once and she fires a warning shot into the wall because her estranged husband is verbally threatening to kill her, well that is a different story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/marissa-alexander-gets-20_n_1530035.html

    mikeca

    July 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    • “her vehicle and retrieved the gun she legally owned. She came back inside and ended up firing a shot into the wall, which ricocheted into the ceiling.”

      So AFTER she retreated, she went back and took a shot at the guy. That’s not self defense.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 14, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      • She claims she left her car keys in the house and went back into to get them. It was her house too. She had a legal right to get her things from the house. She brought the gun for protection when she went back. Her estranged husband started yelling he was going to kill her. She claims she fired a warning shot into the wall.

        Key difference here is that she did not kill her estranged husband, so he was available to testify. He claimed it was not a warning shot. He claimed she tried to aim at him but missed. The jury apparently believed him, even though she had a restraining order against him and he had tried to strangle her in the past.

        mikeca

        July 15, 2013 at 1:04 AM

  33. Reynald, how would *you* change gun laws?

    I have felt from the first that the police at the scene of the crime found nothing to convict Zimmerman with. Either those people were not doing their job or were prejudiced, if you believe this trial was necessary to begin with.

    I’m glad that it seems the original decision was in fact the correct one and that political powers that be were unable to twist reality to their own ends.

    Johnson

    July 14, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    • I think if you’re carrying a gun outside your house than your actions should be subject to heightened scrutiny to examine whether your actions were unnecessarily provocative. I think it’s OK to profile (racially or otherwise), I think it’s OK to follow someone suspicious, but you have to deflate the situation when the opportunities arise to and Zimmerman was simply too much of a pussy to do that. But perhaps a simpler solution would be to just say that people with guns are much more likely to end up in a situation where they legitimately fear for their lives so they can’t pursue and their duty to retreat starts earlier for them than for those who are unarmed.

      reynald

      July 15, 2013 at 11:41 AM

      • Most of what you said is already law. What you really want is to make concealed carry so legally burdensome that people avoid it.

        Conquistador

        July 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM

      • Obviously it’s not the law in Florida if Zimmerman is not guilty of anything.

        reynald

        July 15, 2013 at 10:00 PM

      • The law is not your leftist inquisition.

        Conquistador

        July 16, 2013 at 12:05 AM

      • I have said all along that if Zimmerman started the fight, he should go to jail. I don’t mean a verbal argument, I mean if he started the actual physical altercation.

        Johnson

        July 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM

      • Actually, Zimmerman’s account, which should be heeded as essentially factual at this point, sates that he was sucker punched by TM. No deflation of the situation was possible. Your assertion that he was a “pussy” in not doing so reflects an aggressive bias that counters the plausible known reality of the situation.

        Tom

        August 8, 2013 at 11:14 PM

  34. Strange to see how some still see Zimmerman as starting the fight. There is zero evidence of this. It was more like an unprovoked assault by Trayvon.

    I don’t expect much from the U.S. “justice” system when it comes to blacks. Non-blacks are supposed to lay back and take any attack by blacks and not complain. Sometimes they run into the wrong non-black and get what they deserve.

    This is essentially the argument of those who want to lynch Zimmerman.

    Bernie

    July 14, 2013 at 6:59 PM

  35. theory: blacks aren’t rioting because they know trayvon was a thug who started a fight and lost because the other dude had a gun. they see it all the time in the hood. if deep down they felt there was injustice — like with rodney king — they would be rioting.

    on the other hand, white liberals still feel so guilty about slavery that they feel anytime a black thug kills a white person, it is okay, but when a white person — or person with a white last name — kills a black person, they can’t stand it. their guilt overflows.

    rivsdiary

    July 14, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    • White liberals who feel guilty about that garbage don’t even think about it: they’re simply L2’s mimicking G4’s and G3’s trying to get into their social ladder.

      http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/the-3-ladder-system-of-social-class-in-the-u-s/

      You find a lot of these types at 1st and 2nd-tier state universities: they’re the ones going for liberal arts degrees. College itself usually turns them from being apolitical to liberal as a way of feeling socially superior to the white-trash backgrounds many of them come from. This is especially true in the South.

      Bilbo Baggins

      July 15, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    • You could argue theres more of a case against Zimmerman trial than the Rodney King one. If you watch the tape all the police are do is beat Rodney King until he stops making sudden movements when they go in to put handcuffs on him. It’s not pleasant to watch but it’s not hard to see how a jury would decide that the police were following correct procedures.

      reynald

      July 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

  36. The notion that Trayvon Martin died committing a homophobic hate crime against someone he thought was gay is the perfect liberal head explosion, delivered by Jeantal. I’ll take it.

    Dan

    July 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM

  37. Ignored by the media. Zimmerman voted for Obama and tutored black children:

    http://www.examiner.com/article/ignored-by-media-zimmerman-voted-for-obama-tutored-black-kids

    ignored by the media

    July 17, 2013 at 8:10 AM


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