Lion of the Blogosphere

Obama the wuss

For a short time I was proud of Obama for his stated attention to teach Syria a lesson for using chemical weapons, which he had previously told them they had better not do.

But now it seems that Obama is putting this off for at least 10 more days to allow Congress to approve it, and Republicans in the House of Representatives might not even approve it just because they hate Obama, even though they would have approved George W. Bush making the same request. Furthermore, the administration has been talking more and more about how limited the response is going to be.

One almost gets the impression that Obama is secretly hoping that Republicans in Congress will vote “no” so he gets to avoid doing anything but can put the blame for doing nothing on Republicans.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Posted in International, Politics

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  1. “One almost gets the impression that Obama is secretly hoping that Republicans in Congress will vote “no” so he gets to avoid doing anything but can put the blame for doing nothing on Republicans.”

    Honestly, I hope this happens. We don’t need to start yet another war in the Middle East. If Republicans need to be thrown under the bus to get this to happen, then so be it. The money and the lives saved will be well worth it.

    Jay

    August 31, 2013 at 4:53 PM

  2. “In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department.” — James Madison

    Vince, the Lionhearted

    August 31, 2013 at 7:46 PM

  3. A big man would say “I threatened the use of force in Syria before under certain specific circumstances, making myself and the United States hostage to the actions of the Syrian government. Having reviewed the situation I will now use force only at a time and place of my choosing and, with respect for the Constitution, only with Congressional approval.” That’s what he’s doing, but few people in power are ever willing to admit they were wrong and have changed their mind.

    thrasymachus33308

    August 31, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    • Obama is a puppet, not a big man. Still, I would be happy for him to play one on TV.

      not too late

      September 2, 2013 at 9:13 PM

  4. The lion sure wants to go into Syria guns a blazin’. There was no congressional approval for the Libya airstrikes; perhaps he doesn’t want to go down in history as a trigger happy despot.

    islandmommy

    August 31, 2013 at 8:29 PM

  5. “It’s a slam dunk.”

    The US has ZERO credibility.

    Hugh Lygon

    August 31, 2013 at 9:15 PM

  6. That sounds like a plausible scenario.

    Quite frankly, I was one of those people chomping at the bit to invade Iraq. After seeing how 50% of my countrymen acted in such a pissy, immature manner after we invaded, I don’t think that we should EVER get involved in another foreign conflict, perhaps even if we are attacked directly.

    This country has changed. I don’t know when it happened, but we are a bunch of WUSSES. It is high time that our foreign policy and military readiness reflected that fact.

    Buzzcut

    August 31, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    • The character of the nation changed when its aristocrats stopped going to war. Men like JFK, George HW Bush, etc. volunteered for service to assert their moral authority as warrior-kings. But today’s aristocrats are of an excessively merchant mentality and therefore incapable of championing a war personally, i.e. as a champion on the field of battle. By the Brahminization principle all the lower classes emulate their social superiors, so as a result there are no more warrior role models. Now we only have internet milquetoasts chomping at the bits about war.

      Simon

      August 31, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      • But today’s aristocrats are of an excessively merchant mentality

        Our “aristocrats” overwhelmingly came to power through Cathedral institutions that are completely walled from reality.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

      • But today’s aristocrats are of an excessively merchant mentality and therefore incapable of championing a war personally, i.e. as a champion on the field of battle.

        Our current Sec of Def and Sec of State are Vietnam war combat veterans.

        Rifleman

        September 2, 2013 at 12:43 AM

  7. I admit I’m surprised by this. I know he doesn’t care what Congress thinks, but how is Assad going interpret it? Although I thought firing a few cruise missiles was a bad idea, the fact that the whole world now knows that Obama just figured out that it was a bad idea and is trying to back out of every public statement his administration has made in the past week makes the US government look weak and amateurish

    But of course, it is. That’s the problem..

    Mike

    August 31, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    • Weak and amateurish would be rushing into costly and fruitless wars for idealistic/non-pragmatic reasons. Terrifying and ruthless is pleading parliamentary procedure to allow Assad’s regime to remain alive to serve as a shamwow rag for absorbing Salafist terrorism. I doubt Obama is thinking in exactly these terms since he does not proactively place the nation’s interests ahead of his own, but that is the emergent behavior of the US government and we should all be happy with that.

      Having Assad remain in power is an unbelievable boon to American interests. It divides the Muslim world to turn against itself along Shia-Sunni lines, allowing the USA to “pivot” as it wishes. For the first time in many years, the US and Israel have a genuine respite from the scepter of Sunni-Shia unity.

      Simon

      September 1, 2013 at 3:22 AM

    • Exactly. Obama is an amateur , and not too bright.

      Rosenmops

      September 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

  8. I expect Obama is backing down because he’s seeing very little public support for another war in the middle east, however limited it is initially promised to be. It’s almost like our decade-plus ineffectual dicking around in Afghanistan and our pointless Iraq clusterfuck left the Ameican people with little taste for yet another middle eastern adventure.

    albatross

    August 31, 2013 at 10:31 PM

  9. I would rather be a wuss than an idiot. The United States has no reason to launch a military attack on Syria.

    Joe Walker

    August 31, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    • One can be both a wuss and an idiot.

      Bat

      September 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

      • So do you believe that the United States should launch an attack on Syria? If yes then please explain why.

        Joe Walker

        September 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM

  10. Lion should read this essay by Mark Steyn: http://m.nationalreview.com/article/357287/accidental-war-mark-steyn

    At least one neocon has smartened up to the limitations of military force.

    Dave Pinsen

    September 1, 2013 at 12:41 AM

  11. “Republicans in the House of Representatives might not even approve it just because they hate Obama, even though they would have approved George W. Bush making the same request.”

    Heh —

    Democrats in the House of Representatives might approve it even though they hate US’ military power, just because Obama is a member of their own political party.

    Portlander

    September 1, 2013 at 1:34 AM

  12. Any kind of strike is a bad idea.

    Both sides in the Syrian civil war are bad guys that hate the west. If we strike Assad’s forces, the rebel forces will still hate us, Assad will hate us even more. Assad’s Iranian/Hezbollah allies might retaliate with terrorist attacks on western targets, which would lead to more escalation.

    To accomplish anything the strikes would have to do serious damage to Assad’s forces, but I doubt we can do that much damage with just cruise missiles.

    It is very hard to see what the end game could be in Syria. Assad might slaughter enough Sunni to regain control of most of the country. The other possibility is to partition the country, Assad’s forces with drawing to the coastal areas where the Alawite strong holds are. This would probably leave most of the rest of Syria as a failed state under the control of various radical Sunni groups related to Al Qaeda.

    Al Qaeda formed as blow back from the support of radical Islamist forces to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. The fact that the west armed them didn’t stop them from attacking the west. If the Syrian rebels create a semi-failed independent Sunni state in Syria, it could well be a new site of terrorist attacks against the west.

    Assad is allied with Hezbollah and Iran. The rebels are allied with Al Qaeda. Get the UN to condemn the use of poison gas. Make sure it reflects badly on Iran and Hezbollah. Just let them fight it out.

    mikeca

    September 1, 2013 at 2:37 AM

    • Assad does not hate the west. Hell he wishes his country were more western like his wife. He has no love of that prole version of Islam but he is stuck with it because there are so many of those scum in his country. Letting the prole terrorist scum turn their aggression against Israel just means less of it is directed against him. Assad is no Ahmedinijad.

      not too late

      September 2, 2013 at 9:20 PM

  13. If the US really cared about the people of Syria, they would have gone in long ago. All of a sudden there are reports of chemical weapons being used and they get all interested? Why does it matter how innocent civilians are killed? Dead is dead.

    Add to this the fact the rebels aren’t such peace loving people themselves and I think the US should stay the hell out.

    Yes, innocent people are dying, but neither side is a bunch of angels and we shouldn’t want to support them. So the US’ answer is to go in and bomb some places causing more death. Then when the rebels win, they will slaughter the people who supported Assad. Doesn’t sound like something we want to get involved in.

    Sol

    September 1, 2013 at 4:55 AM

  14. Have the weapons inspectors confirmed Assad was responsible for using gas?

    If Assad gets bombed, driven out, does that mean that the Islamist Al-Qaeda backed rebels take over? Is that a win?

    Rudi

    September 1, 2013 at 5:33 AM

    • “Have the weapons inspectors confirmed Assad was responsible for using gas?”

      We may never know if Assad used WMDs. But at least the NSA can read your emails and listen to your phone calls.

      Progress

      September 1, 2013 at 7:42 PM

  15. “We don’t need to start yet another war in the Middle East.”
    “…we are a bunch of WUSSES.”
    “I would rather be a wuss than an idiot.”

    From my neck of the woods, I think many of you are missing a pretty fundamental transformation in the country (largely due to Obama’s election, but not entirely so).
    To plenty of Americans, America is no longer ‘I’ or ‘we.’ It is ‘it’ or ‘they’. What America does has no more significance to us, emotionally, than what England, or New Zealand, or Australia does. Obviously, this is a bit overstated, but I think the underlying emotional or psychological shift is nevertheless real. I also suspect it is, to a greater degree, a bit more permanent or fundamental than an entirely natural “I don’t like this president (b/c he’s the other party) so I’m going to bitch about his decisions” (which occurs under every president).

    In other words, I don’t sense the same “when the next president is in, we’ll fix the schools/healthcare/military/etc/etc.” There is a great deal more of ‘this institution is done. Who gives a shit?’

    As a friend of mine, a former marine, recently said: Its not my country, I just live here.

    Anon

    sk

    September 1, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    • Exactly.

      CamelCaseRob

      September 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    • “It’s not my country, I just live here”

      Brilliant! Seriously, that is how I feel. What the fuck happened? Who the fuck are these people?

      Buzzcut

      September 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    • To plenty of Americans, America is no longer ‘I’ or ‘we.’ It is ‘it’ or ‘they’. What America does has no more significance to us, emotionally, than what England, or New Zealand, or Australia does. Obviously, this is a bit overstated, but I think the underlying emotional or psychological shift is nevertheless real.

      Really, eh? You’re finding there’s a real (if subtle) undercurrent of this sentiment? I haven’t noticed any such thing here in Canada, but I live in a pretty white part.

      Samson J.

      September 2, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    • Exactly.

      America is just a colony of Washington, DC.

      map

      September 3, 2013 at 12:15 AM

  16. I guess you will be happy to learn that Obama says he’s going to attack regardless of what Congress says.

    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/08/31/fnc-james-rosen-note-states-he-was-told-that-president-obama-will-carry-out-the-military-action-regardless-if-congress-votes-to-approve-use-of-force-click-to-read/

    ‘A senior State Department official tells Fox News the president’s decision to take military action in Syria still stands, and will indeed be carried out, regardless of whether Congress votes next week to approve the use of such force.

    The official said that every major player on the National Security Council – including the commander-in-chief – was in accord last night on the need for military action, and that the president’s decision to seek a congressional debate and vote was a surprise to most if not all of them. However, the aide insisted the request for Congress to vote did not supplant the president’s earlier decision to use force in Syria, only delayed its implementation.

    “That’s going to happen, anyway,” the source told me, adding that that was why the president, in his rose Garden remarks, was careful to establish that he believes he has the authority to launch such strikes even without congressional authorization.”

    Tarl

    September 1, 2013 at 9:08 AM

  17. I agree with Sarah Palin: “…let Allah sort it out.”

    This is not our fight.

    Blog Raju

    September 1, 2013 at 10:59 AM

  18. Great decision by obama.This war is unethical and nonsensical.

    Knoxy

    September 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    • What decision? Don’t think he actually made any….just passing on the bread

      james

      September 2, 2013 at 9:04 AM

  19. This possibility of a military strike is more about the Obama admin keeping its word that it wouldn’t allow Assad’s regime to cross the “red line” than it is about alleviating human suffering.

    Comrade

    September 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

  20. For a short time I was proud of Obama for his stated attention to teach Syria a lesson

    The official Syrian state media is mocking Obama’s backtracking.

    Obviousl Assad sees this as a once in a lifetime opportunity to make it seem as if he has higher social status and eliteness thanObama.

    But now it seems that Obama is putting this off for at least 10 more days to allow Congress to approve it,

    Why didn’t the former editor of the Harvard Law Review already know he needed congressional approval?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    September 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    • So, the bobos have doubts.

      Benedikt comes across as if she’s an upper middle class NY wife who’s striving to become upper class and leave her PROLE Youngstown OH past behind her. Though she recalls her prole Youngstown schools with notable fondness; maybe she thinks back to a white alpha male jock who fooled around with her under the school bleachers?

      But she’s not elite enough to afford a private school that’s free not only of all but a token amount of blacks and Hispanics, but also isn’t Asian. So now she’s been reduced to begging whites to come back to NY public schools.

      Those white private school bills just keep rising, don’t they?

      It’s almost as if they have overly strong pricing power because they have a scarce resource – white school children. You know what would break their pricing power? Pro-white demographic policies; paying tens of thousands to non-white citizens and green card holders to leave, sterilizing criminals and welfare dependents, and whites only immigration.

      You’re not the only bobo with doubts. There’s Ross Douthat, James Taranto, David Frum who are all dipping their toes in our waters. Jason Richwine has been, quietly, picked up by National Review. There’s even a few liberals like Catherine Rampell and Walter Russell Mead who are getting squeamish.

      Pick up the red lightsaber, throw the blacks and Hispanics under the eugenics bus, and join us, Alison.

      Social status and eliteness await you…

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 1, 2013 at 8:53 PM

      • Wrong blog?

        CamelCaseRob

        September 2, 2013 at 5:39 AM

      • To clear up any misinformation, NYC’s private schools aren’t infested with Asians. The demographics are mostly upper middle class White kids with a few token Asians. The problem is with the public schools, but most upper middle class Whites don’t send their children to them in the first place. Lower class and middle class Whites kids are the losers as they compete with Asians in lower tier institutions and mid level occupations.

        You have the Asian problem in the Golden State where they infest every hole in California.

        JS

        September 2, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      • Asians are at the opposite end of blacks and Hispanics, who exhibit beta behaviors of introversion, passivity and high IQ, behaviors well suited for a productive work force, but unfit for a society that requires visionaries and leaders, which Whites are a lot more qualified.

        JS

        September 2, 2013 at 9:36 AM

      • Hispanics aren’t any more alpha than whites.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 2, 2013 at 11:13 PM

      • NYC have almost a non-existent black and hispanic token demographic. 99.9% of them attend public schools, live in less desirable neighborhoods, many are in public housing and most are underachievers working as low level employees.

        A mayorial candidate such as Bill De Blasio will ensure they remain in their current state as he is the most liberal. His current position as public advocate which favors public housing for minorities will carry on, if he becomes mayor.

        JS

        September 2, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      • The only NYC elite public school that has a large contigent of upper middle class White kids is Fiorello La Guardia HS of the Arts, a well known art school with alumni such as Jennifer Aniston and Sarah Michelle Geller. The school is gradually losing its White population to inner city blacks and Hispanics. Recently a parent of a Hispanic family complained that school’s curriculm focusing on White achievement in the arts is racist. Having their children to learn about Mozart and Da Vinci is racist as they should learn about sambo and mambo who invented some voodoo dance in the tropics.

        JS

        September 2, 2013 at 9:47 AM

      • “Hispanics aren’t any more alpha than whites”.

        Carribean hispanics such as Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are very aggressive and have high sex drives. They are the opposite of most Asians and many Whites.

        JS

        September 2, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      • JS,

        What’s your ethnic background? You’re not elite, are you? I think you mentioned before that you’re from NYC. Most middle and upper middle class people in NYC tend to be professionals that moved there after college. While those from NYC tend to be elite or lower class.

        Phil

        September 3, 2013 at 2:32 AM

      • “Most middle and upper middle class people in NYC tend to be professionals that moved there after college. While those from NYC tend to be elite or lower class”.

        If you are talking about Manhattan, then yes, most middle and upper middle class are transplants from elsewhere. The lower class tend to be native NYers and the elite are a mixed group, with more consisting of transplants.

        Most middle class transplants leave NYC if they don’t ascend to the upper middle class.

        There are plenty of Native NYers who live in the other boroughs who are middle class.

        JS

        September 3, 2013 at 9:24 AM

      • Native NYers in Queens and Staten Island aren’t middle class. They’re lower-middle and lower class.

        Phil

        September 3, 2013 at 6:40 PM

      • I’d say they have middle class incomes, but a very prole outlook.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM

      • Wrong blog?

        The wrong comment. I wanted the reply to go to my comment @ 7:55.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 3, 2013 at 7:45 PM

      • Not every neighborhood in Staten Island and Queens is prole.

        Jamaica Estates, which is located in the far reaches in Queens seems less prole than let say Maspeth. I say it’s high prole to bordering to bobo status. The main demographic is White, which is not to be confused with Jamaica, another neighborhood in Queens, which is less desirable with a predominantly Black demographic.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica_Estates,_Queens

        JS

        September 3, 2013 at 10:36 PM

      • @ JS

        Just because there are some nice houses in Jamaica Estates doesn’t mean that it’s a nice place to live.

        Renault

        September 4, 2013 at 6:12 AM

  21. Lion, I’d just like to point out that despite Obama’s political scandals and other disasters, today’s (Republican leaning) Rasmussen tracking poll shows him with 50% approval rating.

    This man is untouchable.

    Curious

    September 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    • IF you want to understand why President Obama is untouchable, pay attention to how the Congressional Black Caucus votes on any resolution involving Syria. If this had happened during the Bush Administration, the CBC would vote 100% against taking action. Yet, I would bet that most of the CBC will vote to support President Obama.

      When the number of automatic Democratic voter is nearing 50%, then the Democrats will have a massive advantage in polling. Add in the race factor and Obama really is untouchable.

      superdestroyer

      September 2, 2013 at 5:04 AM

  22. OT,

    How about Alison Benedikt and her desperate SWPL whistle call to whites to send their kids back to public school so she and her husband won’t have to pay for private school. Is this a sign the upper middle class is having more doubts as the the burden of non-white immigration grows?

    You’ve got to support white America demographic policy to have white schools, Alison. If you don’t accept HBD then you’ll at least be able to console yourself with 80% Asian Stuyvesant. I’m sure the kids will thank you for sending them to a post-white school.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    September 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    • Most NYC’s schools are post-white, before lax immigration and liberal policies that destroyed them.

      JS

      September 2, 2013 at 9:56 AM

  23. I too was hoping Obama would send the Syrians a firm message, something along these lines: “Dear Basher, Good luck fighting Al Qaeda and the other Islamic extremists. If America can be of any help, please don’t hesitate to ask. Yours always, Barack Hussein Obama”

    Mark Caplan

    September 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

  24. I don’t quite understand the outrage over Assad’s alleged deployment of chemical weapons in the ongoing Syrian civil war.

    Is it any more barbaric than killing your own people with bullets, bombs, and artillery shells? Where was the outrage back in May when this guy started shelling the cities?

    All that aside, I think that Obama finally got in touch with reality. The Libya and Egypt revolts resulted in unfavorable governments being put in place. Our wonder weapons are expensive to deploy and we don’t have the cash to spare. The Brits are sitting this one out. Putin’s deployed his navy to the med because of this mess. There’s also little will at home for another war with the Arabs.

    Why bother? Why not punt to congress?

    High Prole & Proud

    September 1, 2013 at 11:18 PM

  25. OT, but from the RollonFriday site:

    Exclusive: Major US firms classify their lawyers by skin colour

    “There seems to be a developing trend for major firms to lump together all their non-white lawyers under the umbrella term of “Attorneys of Color”. For example, Ropes & Gray, Morgan Lewis, Fried Frank, Kramer Levin and Blank Rome are all now following this practice. The development is an attempt to encourage diversity in the profession, and a spokesman for Morgan Lewis said that the firm was passionate about diversity.

    And maybe it will encourage diversity, who knows – but making a point of referring to a professional as a person of colour (or not) seems borderline racist. Not to mention almost comically broadbrush: does it really make any sense to group Afro Caribbean, Chinese and Indian lawyers together by the single trait of not being white? And should those of Hispanic, Mediterranean or Mexican origin now be categorised as “Attorneys of Some But Not So Much Color”?

    Although Morgan Lewis declined to comment, its spokesman accepted that it may “sound strange to the European ear” while Jenny from RoF Towers, who according to US firms is also a Person of Color, described it as “fundamentally well meaning but absolute bullsh*t”.

    http://www.rollonfriday.com/TheNews/EuropeNews/tabid/58/Id/2885/fromTab/36/currentIndex/2/Default.aspx

    Rudi

    September 2, 2013 at 4:58 AM

  26. OT:

    Malcolm Gladwell used the phrase “human biological diversity” in his latest column.

    ScarletNumber

    September 2, 2013 at 11:51 PM


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