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NY Times editorial about education

The NY Times Editorial Board decries the fact that adults in other countries have higher test scores than Americans.

They blame public education, but the problem is that liberals have all the wrong answers with respect to public education. There are two things that are holding us behind. One is that we have a dysgenic immigration policy, and this dates back to colonial times when a large number of immigrants were brought here not because they were expected to become intelligent and well-behaved citizens, but because greedy plantation owners wanted to use them as slave labor.

I bet that no country in the world does a better job than the United States at getting children with genetically low IQs to score higher than you’d expect on reading and math tests. Unfortunately, our education policy cares nothing for teaching children with genetically high IQs to their full potential. For example, many a Chinese immigrant has told me that the math we teach in college is the math they learned in high school back in China.

Liberals, who are obsessed with gaps, create education policy that purposely holds back smart children in order to lower the gap between the smart children and children from demographic groups that don’t do well on tests.

We also have a college admissions policy that elevates leadership and athletic ability over academic ability, which partially explains why Chinese students are learning calculus while American students are learning how to play better basketball, baseball and football. Of course, the college admissions policies are controlled by liberals. There are hardly any conservatives with any meaningful policy input at any of our top colleges and universities.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Posted in Education

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  1. Lion you need to keep blogging biographies about Times columnists, to get them to read your blog.

    Dan

    October 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM

  2. Our schools do a great job fulfilling their real mission, which is providing free daycare for kids and busywork for a massive number of adults.

    SJ

    October 23, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    • I’d add propaganda as well. Kids are taught to worship MLK.

      That way when Tyrone is arrested for homicide he’s the victim.

      eradican

      October 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM

  3. The issue is we’re ignoring America’s vastly larger population. On an absolute basis we have more geniuses/high achievers than any other OECD country. Educating America’s highest IQ children to their full potential won’t change our ranking; instead we would need to exclude everyone that doesn’t meet a certain IQ threshold like 110 or whatever from being tested.

    instituteofeconunderstanding

    October 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM

  4. Favoring leadership and athletic ability doesn’t sound liberal at all; that sounds pragmatic. Former college athletes tend to become more successful and are more likely to donate to their alma maters.

    Dave Pinsen

    October 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    • Any source for this? The overwhelming majority of college athletes never turn pro. Moreover, wouldn’t this be a reason to favor rich kids over poor or middle class kids?

      bernie

      October 23, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    • It’s what is best for all members of society that’s most important, not what’s “pragmatic” (for limited interested parties). That’s what America gets wrong. We don’t care about the losers in society. Even that word doesn’t exist in higher civilizations. Our level of empathy is the lowest in the world. John Stuart Mill’s utilitarianism is unassailable. A society should be judged by the welfare of all its members taken collectively – not just in material terms or “standard of living,” but emotionally, spiritually (level of consciousness), and materially.

      shiva1008

      October 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM

      • Are we worse than India where people defecate on the streets? I don’t think so my dear. Regardless of whether older cultures use words like loser or not there is always a defacto hierachy. Things only seem to get worse when you pretend there isn’t.

        Governemnt’s role as a stern fatherlike authorty figure providing order and discpline has been replaced by a maternal entity fixated on comfort and well being instead. Predictably the west is in major and likely irrepreable decline. Sofnesst is seen as a high point for civilization but human nature and history suggests otherwise.

        eradican

        October 23, 2013 at 3:35 PM

      • Those aren’t mutually exclusive goals. If the most talented get the boosts they need to earn more, they’ll be able to pay more in taxes which go toward aid for the poor, etc.

        Dave Pinsen

        October 23, 2013 at 5:53 PM

      • “Our level of empathy is the lowest in the world.”

        Hardly. We dump $50-70 billion per year on the “slow” kids via special education. That’s a lot of empathy!

        islandmommy

        October 23, 2013 at 6:52 PM

      • We don’t care because we aren’t a single people but a bunch of different tribes living in the same place governed by laws that traditionally left do-gooderism to the tribes themselves but that, in the last 50 years, sought to use the law to transfer value between tribes (and called it justice). That is why you have the political parties composed the way they are. All blacks, whether they are sucking off the government tit or not understand full well that their tribe is a net receiver of available public largess thus they vote consistently for the party that will create the greatest amount of largess. Whites, understanding that they are more the losers than winners in the largess game, have steadily gravitated to the party claiming to reduce or control the largess. Americans, on the whole, until the 60s, never believed they were responsible for the deadbeats of another tribe. Now we have diversity training sessions to pound such beliefs into the sculls of our children while they are still malleable.

        Curle

        October 24, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    • High profile sports teams attract students and keep alumni engaged with the school and giving money. The solution is to force schools to select purely based on a prediction of fourth year academic performance.

      reynald

      October 23, 2013 at 8:59 PM

      • yes, ivy league schools and chicago have ultra high profile sports teams….that’s what really drives alum engagement and donations to the endowment.

        uatu

        October 24, 2013 at 9:27 AM

  5. Reblogged this on Mindweapons in Ragnarok and commented:
    Take home quote:
    I bet that no country in the world does a better job than the United States at getting children with genetically low IQs to score higher than you’d expect on reading and math tests. Unfortunately, our education policy cares nothing for teaching children with genetically high IQs to their full potential. For example, many a Chinese immigrant has told me that the math we teach in college is the math they learned in high school back in China.
    This is why the Mindweapon program of parents doing math as a hobby, then teaching their children to a very high level, has the potential for a very good return on investment. Success in the higher ranks of business and technology depends on complex thinking (IQ) and emotional intelligence (EQ). So long as there is civilization ,there will be ae need for complex thinkers, and more espeiclaly for complex thinkers who know how to get along with people.

    mindweapon

    October 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM

  6. What do you mean by full potential? The high IQ children have no actual potential; their “potential” is merely to perform competently on relative g-loaded tasks in the labor market and get paid inversely to the availability of the people able to perform those tasks.

    High IQ is already rewarded by a high score on g-loaded tests such as the SAT, ACT, and GRE.

    Latias

    October 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    • Yeah pretty much. The real world is nothing like school. Extroversion and social skills are what gets you the good jobs, so they should set up a similar system in school. My experience was the opposite however. I was taught that if I did well on tests, my talent would be recognized. But performance doesn’t matter as much as average intelligence + extroversion and social skills. Also, if we’re going to have to compete as adults, teach competition in school. Don’t teach “sharing” and “everyone will get their fair share” because that’s bullshit. * Unless you belong to a protected victim class, but even then not always because you’re still competing against other vicitms. 🙂

      shiva1008

      October 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      • It’s not one or the other. It’s both. Successful people are generally smart and have social skills.

        Dave Pinsen

        October 23, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      • Technical jobs don’t require much social skills, and many of them pay above average salaries.

        JS

        October 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

      • @ JS

        Beta males are icky. Chix don’t want to be near them.

        eradican

        October 24, 2013 at 1:55 AM

      • There aren’t many good jobs out there, if you are talking about those that pay above average salaries, besides the usual value transference careers, which is off limits to most people. Beta occupations are abound and many of them offer a nice salary. I’m not advocating for them. When you’re in survival mode for food and shelter, being alpha or beta to women isn’t one of your priorities.

        JS

        October 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

  7. With the exception of an hour gifted class each day after second grade, most schools provide no achievement grouping until the kids hit sixth or seventh grade, when they are allowed to take one accelerated math class. No further ability grouping until high school when kids go on the pre-AP track, the bright non-AP track or the ditch-digger track.

    The typical sixth-grade class will have some students reading at the first- or second-grade level while others are at the high school or college level. So half the class learns very little. The dull kids can’t keep up and the bright kids already have it. That’s no way to educate children.

    ColRebSez

    October 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM

  8. The no child left behind act, which was pushed by Bush, but with some Democratic support too, is partially responsible for changing the focus of education from average or median achievement test scores to the test scores of the worst performing students. Schools have reduced resources for honors and advanced classes to shift more resources on the worst performing students.

    No child left behind is one of the dumbest education ideas I have seen in my lifetime. This idea was mainly pushed by people who were suppose to be conservative. Don’t just blame liberals for the state of American education. Conservatives have done their fair share of screwing it up too.

    mikeca

    October 23, 2013 at 3:26 PM

  9. History kind of repeats itself. I’ve read that in the declining days of the British empire, athletic skills and leadership were also emphasized in the educational system instead of technological knowledge. While the Brits were doing this, a bunch of Americans with little formal education but lots of technical knowledge like Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were pushing the U.S. toward world industrial supremacy. Now, a century later, we’ve taken on the role of the British Empire and China has taken on our former role as the industrial powerhouse of the world.

    Mark

    October 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    • You’re half right so read this for the complete picture.

      Click to access glubb.pdf

      eradican

      October 23, 2013 at 7:33 PM

      • Deja vu with Conquistador. I’ll always remember your link on the Fate of Empires.

        JS

        October 24, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    • Britain was a world leader in technological knowledge right up until the 1950s. British decline (as well as French and German) all starts with World War I, when a whole generation of Europe’s best and brightest were wiped out.

      Peter the Shark

      October 24, 2013 at 1:35 AM

  10. I wonder if Lion is changing his tune because of the economic and partly social turmoil that America is currently facing.

    Are you suggesting that smart White American kids should go into STEM and not into status induced – value transference fields like Wall St and BIGLAW?

    Better yet, there seems to be underrepresentation of intelligent Whites in prolish fields such as IT and Accounting. There are plenty of Asians in these fields, and they pay better than what most average Whites do, that is non value transference work.

    JS

    October 23, 2013 at 9:52 PM

  11. You figured with our well connected internet that Smart American White youths could have a dialogue with Smart European youths in solving the global crisis. It’s amazing how effing parochial minded both sides of the Atlantic are. More so of the American side, no doubt!

    JS

    October 23, 2013 at 9:57 PM

  12. E. Rekshun

    October 31, 2013 at 12:22 PM


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