Lion of the Blogosphere

Stop and frisk is back!

U.S. Second Circuit restores stop and frisk!.

Unfortunately, it’s only going to last until De Blasio takes office. And then, the criminal element will run wild.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 31, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Posted in Crime, Law

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  1. Yep, De Blasio is going to dismantle stop and frisk regardless of what happens in the courts.

    Jay

    October 31, 2013 at 4:49 PM

  2. “Unfortunately, it’s only going to last until De Blasio takes office.”

    You got that right. He’ll either get a policy passed banning the practice, thus mooting the appeal, or his administration will direct the city attorney to drop the appeal.

    De Blasio will also very likely pay off the “Central Park Five” (who were most likely 100% correctly convicted in the first place) to the tune of millions to end that lawsuit.

    Alex

    October 31, 2013 at 4:56 PM

  3. The Post’s Seth Lipsky suggested de Blasio might take this as an opportunity to switch sides if he were smart.

    Dave Pinsen

    October 31, 2013 at 5:05 PM

  4. Everyone you denounced as a “conspiracy theorist” was right.

    eradican

    October 31, 2013 at 5:29 PM

  5. “Unfortunately, it’s only going to last until De Blasio takes office.”

    Nah! This gives him the perfect out he needs. Well, the court overturned the ban and we’re not going to waste any more resources fighting a losing battle etc etc. Then he’ll throw a few million bucks down some other social spending rathole to placate the angry mobs (meaning about two dozen noisy political activists who will have their palms greased) and that’ll be that.

    New York is shakedown town.

    peterike

    October 31, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    • I doubt it. He came out with a statement critical to thursday’s order that it would create a rift between the police and “the people they protect.” De Blasio’s the real liberal whackjob deal. If we’re heading back to the good old days, will men give up their subway seats to women after he takes office?

      toomanyspiders

      November 2, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      • Well the election hasn’t happened yet so De Blasio has to keep talking to his base so they remain motivated to vote. Stopping stop-and-frisk is just another campaign promise, and we know how politicians keep those.

        Speaking of all that, the Post had an interesting piece on how Orc Scheindlin’s activism on s&f altered the course of the mayoral race.

        http://nypost.com/2013/11/03/judge-scheindlins-reckless-conduct-shifted-mayors-race/

        peterike

        November 3, 2013 at 12:45 PM

  6. How was life in New York different before 1993?

    Fiddlesticks

    October 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    • There was graffiti all over the subway cars.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 31, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    • Times Square was hugely different. Today, there’s Mary Poppins showing on Times Square. Before 1993, there was also a Mary Poppins show, but she wasn’t holding an umbrella.

      GMR

      November 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

      • New York was more of an alpha city back then. You had to be tough and somewhat of an ass to thrive in city. Even blacks knew back then, that messing with Whites meant payback.

        Today with the bobofication, White guys in NYC have become soft betas, whose idea of alphaness is Wall St and BIGLAW. That’s where Lion got his idea of prestige.

        And by the way, many White dudes were in rock bands, that was the prestige factor back then, and a privilege to getting laid.

        The alphaness began to take a different view when Bloomberg became mayor. Alpha means a boring f*ck, who lives in an overpriced apt with a six digit salary in a value transference field.

        JS

        November 1, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    • Well there was the cold, icy fear of assault or robbery any time you were on a subway outside of rush hour. There was that.

      There were the vast swaths of the city that were no-enter zones for white people. There was that.

      There was the rampant theft of cars and car radios, and the concern any time you returned to your car that it would still be there or the window wouldn’t have been smashed in. There was that.

      There was the high frequency of burglaries of single family homes, and the need to put bars on your windows and multiple locks on the doors. Those old jokes you see in 70s comedies with people unlocking five locks on their New York doors was not a joke. There was that.

      There were the hostile squeegee men at intersections and pan-handlers on nearly every corner. There was that.

      There was the relentless solicitations by aggressive drug dealers in Times Square and in just about any park you entered. To say nothing of all the parks you wouldn’t dare enter at all. There was that.

      There’s probably more but my mind might have blocked it out.

      peterike

      November 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM

      • Wow, I remember the days when all you had to do was sit down in Central Park and in less than fifteen minutes someone would come by and offer to sell you drugs.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    • Anyone who is familiar with the pre-Guiliani days of NYC, probably heard of the killing of Yusef Hawkins in 1989, which was basically a Trayvon Martin case, except the attackers were Italian American – working class proles in the outer boroughs, who were on the offensive to kill a black troublemaker Hawkins in their own neighborhood. In the good old days of NYC in an era free of political corectedness, Whites took everything into their own hands when it came to Black on White crime. The police were so incompetent that they could not stop any black and hispanic thug from committing their heinous acts. The killing of Hawkins led to a rally started by no other than Rev. Al Sharpton, where there was also an anti-Sharpton protest as well.

      Here is a picture of the anti-Sharpton group who were mostly Italian proles.

      Some of you may wonder who’s that Asian guy among crowd of proles in the picture. Back then, Asians were just as anti-black as any normal White person in NYC. In fact, Asians had their own gangs just like the proles who served as a counter offfensive on those pesky blacks. Lion mentioned how NYC’s Jewish community is very liberal and anti-HBD. Well, unsurprisingly, Jews back in the day, were the least equipped to deal with black on non-black crime, much more than Asians. My parents personally knew of an Orthodox Jew who was killed at the hands of a black murderer at a live poultry slaughter house that he owned, because he played nice with them. No sane person back in the day were nice towards violent blacks. Non-Jewish White ethnics and Asians, had their own gangs who would seek retribution for any crimes committed by them. Jews unfortunately, played a less aggressive role in this, with the exception of the loner shooter, Bernie Goetz.

      JS

      November 2, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      • God bless the guidos. They always did know how to crack heads. It took an Italian to break the NAMs’ balls and clean things up for Bloomberg.

        SFG

        November 3, 2013 at 11:01 PM

      • Giuliani’s NYC was really the golden years for me and a lot of NYers. It had the best of both worlds, the holdover abrasiveness of NYC from the 80s, yet the cleaning up – gentrification of the city – a very alpha combination, symbolic of the mayor.

        Bloomtard’s NYC is sterile and betafied, a city that Asians and boring ass bobos would love to live in, and they got it, an overall effeminate town.

        de Blasio’s NYC may not be another Dinkins or Kochy era, but it will definitely become a looney tunes episode, it’ll probably become a mental ward city.

        JS

        November 4, 2013 at 1:08 AM

  7. Not that there’s one chance in a quadrillion of it happening, but the new administration should lay off half of the NYPD (which is comically overstaffed compared to almost all other cities) and enact a concealed-carry law. Crime rates will plummet.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    October 31, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    • Ghetto people in housing projects legally allowed to carry concealed guns. Yeah, that will make me feel safer.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 31, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      • Many ghetto dwellers would be unable to get concealed carry permits due to criminal records.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        October 31, 2013 at 10:36 PM

      • I doubt any “Ghetto People” would qualify for a pistol permit under the stringent NYS regs.

        Sanjuro

        October 31, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      • How many ghetto-americans would take the time to get a ccw? The only people who get them are very beta white males. The best NYC can hope for is if Bernie Goetz hits the streets again!

        Monroe Ficus

        November 1, 2013 at 6:21 AM

      • They’ll shoot each other (unless you go to housing projects to meet your girlfriend). Fine by me.

        Cracker

        November 1, 2013 at 8:34 AM

      • Most ghetto dwellers will fail to qualify for a concealed carry permit due to felony convictions.

        E. Rekshun

        November 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      • Make it a complicated procedure to get one. Background checks, written tests, references, all kinds of shit. Hell, make them do an interview with a local police officer. This will discourage the project dwellers (many of whom already carry guns illegally) so that very few (and only the most devoted) will get one.

        This process will not do too much to deter lawyers, bankers and other people who the city should be serving better.

        Berty O'Derples

        November 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM

      • But it would be eugenic since they most frequently shoot each other.

        Curle

        November 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM

      • The NYCHA has broad license to deem persons with criminal records ineligible for public housing. Likewise section 8 landlords who conduct background checks can exclude applicants with a record. Some crimes automatically bar, at a federal level, a person from entry to public housing or S8. Which would technically make residents of housing projects more likely to qualify for CCW than their non-public-housing neighbors.

        toomanyspiders

        November 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM

      • Blacks and lower tier Hispanics are slowly being phased out in the NYCHA complexes. There is so much corruption in NYCHA, where money speaks louder than liberal policies that housing administrators would actually “sell” apartments in the open market, meaning “off the books”, cash loaded Hispanic and Asian immigrants can bypass over blacks on the waiting list just by learning to be socially savvy. A meeting with one of the housing officers during the application process, and a few 10Gs under the table-hush money usually gets you the apartment.

        JS

        November 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      • From what I understand, the problem with handguns in NYC is the bullets go through the cheap apartment walls.

        SFG

        November 3, 2013 at 11:04 PM

  8. OT, finally a smart Republican.

    Utah Senator Mike Lee will introduce higher education legislation that will break the extreme left’s monopoly power over academic credentialing. His bill makes it easier for online classes to be taken for credit, expand the use of competency based testing and let businesses establish their own vocational certificates and training courses.

    Lee even even wants pro-natal tax cuts that will stimulate the white birth rate.

    This is how to defeat the left: cripple them through defunding. Mass layoffs of tenured faculty will open the door to sane national policies like eugenics, whites only immigration, and more.

    I hereby nominate Mike Lee for president to succeed where his co-religionist Romney failed.

    The two best and smartest national Republicans from an HBD perspective (admittedly imperfectly) are Mormons: Defund the left and stimulate white birth rates. We even get more federal regulatory support for flex time as a bonus!

    Sen. Mike Lee on “What’s Next for Conservatives”

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2013/10/29/text-sen-mike-lee-on-whats-next-for-conservatives-n1733032

    And so, in the coming days, I will be introducing the Higher Education Reform and Opportunity Act. Under this legislation, the existing accreditation system would remain unchanged. Current colleges and universities could continue to use the system they know.

    But my plan would give states a new option to enter into agreements with the Department of Education to create their own, alternative accreditation systems to open up new options for students qualifying for federal aid.

    Today, only degree-issuing academic institutions are even allowed to be accredited. Under the new, optional state systems that my bill would authorize, accreditation could also be available to specialized programs, individual courses, apprenticeships, professional credentialing, and even competency-based tests. States could accredit online courses, or hybrid models with elements on- and off-campus.

    These systems would open up opportunities for non-traditional students – like single parents working double shifts – whose life responsibilities might make it impossible to take more than one class at a time.

    They would also enable traditional students to tailor a degree that better reflects the knowledge and skills valued by employers.

    Innovations in vocational education and training would open new opportunities in growing fields that are hiring right now.

    Qualified unions, businesses, and trade groups could start to accredit courses and programs tailored to their evolving needs. Churches and charities could enlist qualified volunteers to offer accredited classes and training for next to nothing. States could use innovative systems to attract new opportunities and businesses, investing in their own future by investing in the human capital of their citizens.

    Imagine having access to credit and student aid and for:

    * a program in computer science accredited by Apple or in music accredited by the New York Philharmonic;
    * college-level history classes on-site at Mount Vernon or Gettysburg;
    * medical-technician training developed by the Mayo Clinic;
    * taking massive, open, online courses offered by the best teachers in the world… from your living room or the public library.

    Brick-and-ivy institutions will always be the backbone of our higher-education system, but they shouldn’t be the only option.

    If these new models were to succeed, they would create a virtuous cycle. Traditional colleges would be impelled to cut waste, refocus on their students, and embrace innovation and experimentation as part of their campus cultures.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 31, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    • Vocational education should only be apprenticeship programs and job training should only be onsite. Most trade and technical schools should be shut down, as they siphon money from taxpayers to fund incapable inner city NAMs attend their useless programs.

      JS

      October 31, 2013 at 10:41 PM

      • Most trade and technical schools should be shut down, as they siphon money from taxpayers to fund incapable inner city NAMs attend their useless programs.

        More free market competition in vocational education (which Lee’s bill enables) means better trade school options for competent blue collar whites. Manufacturing companies that are right now clamoring for more skilled tradesmen could establish their own training programs and certificates with a mix of online and hands on courses.

        as long as they want to see top schools on resumes for the most part, there will still be massive demand for schools in the top 25 (even the top 50).

        The more or less top 25 schools will survive the onslaught from online credentialing and maintain the classic brick and mortar format. But the political effects on the left will be devastating if there are mass closures of non-STEM and non-business departments in the sub 25 group.

        Non-elite schools still produce the majority of liberal social engineering research, organizing of student activists and indoctrination of undergrads. The top 25 schools wouldn’t be able to compensate for the lost volume of political propaganda output if the sub 25 liberal arts departments are cleared out. Cathedral operations would be facing a system wide failure under this scenario.

        Consider, also, the the threat to Democratic fundraising: If hundreds of thousands or millions of academics lose their jobs, the Democrats stand to lose millions in campaign donations from professors who currently give 90% of their contributions to the Ds.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 2, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    • yep, wallstreet, biglaw, MBB consulting, increasingly Silicon Valley for non-pure programming positions (see Yahoo/Meyer’s shift towards ‘prestige’ educational backgrounds for recruiting purposes) are really going to give a shit – as long as they want to see top schools on resumes for the most part, there will still be massive demand for schools in the top 25 (even the top 50).

      uatu

      November 1, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    • “new options for students qualifying for federal aid.” The federal aid is the problem, it is the fuel that propels the left to further nonsense. We need no “new options” to fuel the Left.

      Aubrey LaVentana

      November 3, 2013 at 9:58 PM

  9. Don’t frisk me bro..

    L

    October 31, 2013 at 7:33 PM

  10. Prediction: Violent crime in NYC will raise no more than 3-5%, regardless of who wins.

    jm

    October 31, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    • Maybe not violent crime, but being mugged or robbed for your wallet or iphone is bad enough.

      JS

      November 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM

  11. If that’s so, wouldn’t it be advisable to sell and move?

    Boxthorn

    October 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM

  12. On the bright side, maybe the increase in crime will cause rents in NYC to come down as people flee. On can hope.

    Jay

    November 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    • Good luck.

      Cracker

      November 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    • There is really no reason to live in NYC, unless you are native or you work in a value transference field, such as Wall St, BIGLAW or the media.

      If you really want to enjoy culture and want to become an intellectual, fuggetaboutit. It’s too expensive to engage in such pursuits unless you are wealthy, because its high cost of living is prohibitive. NYC has many cultural institutions and museums, which are found in other cities, and the ones in the Big Apple aren’t exceedingly exceptional. Further, there is no niche for pure intellectualism/high culture in the city. This isn’t Paris or Berlin. Everyone for the most part are petty consumption pigs, whose life revolves around work and play, and nothing in between.

      Most of the restaurants are spectacularly unimpressive.

      Other things to consider:

      Too many blacks in Manhattan roaming around like stray dogs, and overly obnoxious brain dead liberals, who think they know everything, to make any pro-HBD and socially intelligent person in NYC miserable.

      de Blasio becoming mayor will make NYC more fun, as liberals get a taste of their own medicine.

      JS

      November 3, 2013 at 11:55 AM

  13. […] Undiscovered Jew leaves a comment at Lion of the Blogosphere’s humbly titled blog that draws attention to Utah Senator Mike Lee […]

  14. “Unfortunately, it’s only going to last until De Blasio takes office. And then, the criminal element will run wild.”

    I’m a big believer in Dusk In Autumn’s theory on the 60 year cycle of crime rates. The Bad Old Days WILL be back, starting in the later part of the 2010s, regardless of who’s in office.

    Anonymous

    November 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

  15. Crime rate will remian the same, at least on paper. easy to fudge the numbers.

    bobo

    November 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM

  16. Some poor schmuck on the NYC streets will get mugged and beaten and become the “face” of the new DiBlasio administration’s soft-on-crime policies.

    Camlost

    November 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

  17. 1. Stop and frisk is unconstitutional.
    2. Stop and frisk keeps the animals of Zoo York from killing each other.

    For these reasons I must oppose it.

    boreal

    November 4, 2013 at 12:22 PM

  18. It will suck though for the tourist who won’t know better. If it was just Liberals getting a taste of their own medicine…I would call it ‘just dessert’…

    L

    November 5, 2013 at 1:34 AM


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