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Those dastardly French like Americans too much

An American expatriate professor of philosophy at the University of Paris complains that the French are nice to him because he’s a white American.

Perhaps, as Europeans become more anti-immigrant, liberal Americans will stop looking up to Europe as morally superior to the United States? (Yes, how quickly did liberal Americans forget the Holocaust.)

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 6, 2014 at 11:33 AM

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  1. Not sure your theory stands scrutiny.

    Just vacation back from Paris. As an Asian American, I was treated quite nice too. Had one dispute with a German tourist, Parisian guys all back me up over him. So, here we go.

    IC

    January 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM

  2. “(Yes, how quickly did liberal Americans forget the Holocaust.”

    Liberal Americans like to pick and choose whichever part of Europe meets whatever argument they’re trying to make at the moment. Italy, for example, is held up as an examplar of “slow food” and artisanal values, but Italian xenophobia and horrible government services are conveniently ignored – and then Sweden or Germany become the model we’re supposed to aspire to, except their local cultures are too white and achievement oriented so we’re back to Spain where people don’t work hard, listen to more passionate music and have wild affairs, except they’re homophobic and anti-Islamic so better use England as the model where gays are celebrated, except,etc. etc. Denmark is probably the closest to a liberal wet dream except they have the tightest restrictions on immigration in the EU.

    Peter the Shark

    January 6, 2014 at 12:24 PM

  3. Actually I have a lot of my white liberal friends like Canada over Europe. Many of them want to move to Canada, and want Canadian social policy in the United States. They view Canada as a better version of America. I do not hear a lot of “how great Sweden is” anymore from a lot of white liberals. Great Britain is the one European country that gets a lot of praise from white liberals still. The reason why is the British TV invasion. British TV shows like Downton Abby, Doctor Who, and Sherlock Holmes are loved by white liberals. They love those shows, and think Great Britain is the Great Britain on TV.

    NutupOrShutup rides again

    January 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    • and the uk is at the bottom in ppp per capita gdp pile in western europe. only france, spain, italy, portugal are lower. in 2012 ireland is still ahead of its former master. is finland part of western europe?

      jorge videla

      January 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    • 20% of brits live in public housing. it’s the most unequal and least mobile country in europe. at one time 20% of the workforce was in finance, compared to 5% in the us. it doesn’t make anything except oil and jet engines. it’s sh**. will the scots vote for independence? i hope so.

      jorge videla

      January 6, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      • It seems rather bland and boring, not to mention, food and weather are all negatives that Spain and Italy, doesn’t have.

        JS

        January 6, 2014 at 5:27 PM

      • Many working-class and even some middle-class people live in Britsh public housing. It’s not like in the United States, where public housing is strictly for the very poor.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        January 7, 2014 at 8:52 PM

    • Yes, Canada is less socially dysfunctional than the States and also Britain. The States have a problem with NAMs and Proles, and the Brits with their Muslim immigrants. Canada is a cold place where non-White immigrants are isolated in their enclaves, where Whites are able to create their own vibrant neighborhoods, free from mass invasion in certain cities.

      I can’t vouch for anything great about Great Britain. Bad weather, bad food, ugly women and a sickly looking population, are just a few things to stay away.

      JS

      January 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM

      • canadians love hockey. therefore, they have a prole problem.

        jorge videla

        January 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

      • Canada’s population is more educated and it’s not nearly as populous as the United States.

        Do you call European soccer “prole”?

        The English are more prole than the Spaniards, despite having more money and a stronger economy. In fact, all Anglosphere based nations, come off as more barbarian or prole than continental European nations, especially when it comes to Southern Europe.

        JS

        January 7, 2014 at 12:41 PM

      • European soccer is *quite* prole. Soccer is the common man’s game everywhere but the USA, because it requires almost no equipment.

        SFG

        January 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM

      • right. football hooliganism is a british problem.

        no. hockey is almost as prole as professional wrestling, because fighting is part of the game. whereas france may have lost a world cup because zidane head butted materazzi.

        jorge videla

        January 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM

      • Prole = Barbarian

        The Brits are the most prole of all the Europeans. Tea and Biscuits are for proles who call themselves royalty in Londontown.

        Canada is less prole than the US and Great Britain. The US has the most prole sports. Only Lion thinks soccer moms are SWPLs.

        Spain is the only non-English speaking Euro country that attracts the most Americans, and rightfully so with its world class cities such as Madrid and Barcelona, with great weather and good food to boot. Stodgy UK weather, and fish and chips are for proles.

        JS

        January 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

      • Indeed bobos prefer soccer over more violent sports like football, and because soccer is more European and International. Even Christian Lander said that SWPLs like soccer.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM

      • Europeans laugh at Americans, because being a SWPL is an Euro wannabe classicist , that our old world counterparts don’t pay a penny to become one.

        JS

        January 8, 2014 at 3:03 PM

      • The irony with American elites fondness for soccer is European stadiums are filled with proles.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 8, 2014 at 7:39 PM

      • yes football is “common” compared to cricket or rugby in the uk, BUT it is a beautiful game and you don’t have to be a freak to play.

        american sports it helps a lot to be big. even mlb players are big today. in fact, despite the violence nhl players are smaller than nfl, nba, and mlb players, right? i remember seeing gretzky with his shirt off and thinking, what?

        the typical pro footballer is 6″ 170, very skinny, and very healthy. but then again, italian footballers have a yet inexpicably high rate of als.

        i don’t care if the british upper classes think the world cup is boring and prole. i’ll always watch. it’s much better than the olympics.

        but soccer was my best sport. if i’d been a european i might have gone pro. i was that good. and i’m not against big. i’m tall and robust myself.

        jorge videla

        January 8, 2014 at 8:49 PM

  4. An American expatriate professor of philosophy at the University of Paris complains that the French are nice to him because he’s a white American.

    Also known as: “White people problems”!

    Wade Nichols

    January 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM

  5. Its good to know the French have a will to survive. I was worried for a second they were more than willing to let Paris have the same fate the “Paris of the west” (Detroit) had.

    Monroe Ficus

    January 6, 2014 at 1:49 PM

  6. had to stop reading after this professor of philosophy referred to himself as a philosopher. there are few people more despicable.

    the european left is as it should be. the american left is the sham. “socialism” is a dirty word in america. not in europe. ethocentism is perfectly natural and acceptable in nation states, but the us is just a state not a nation. the idea of france composed of non-french is ridiculous. but there’s no such thing as an american. it’s just a passport. the french team left the world cup in a hurry last time due to racial conflict.

    jorge videla

    January 6, 2014 at 3:29 PM

  7. That professor needs to relocate to NYC under the jackboots of de Blasio, if he feels being treated too kindly by his co-racialists in France.

    JS

    January 6, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    • He can get a frisson of terror after being a victim of the Knockout Game at the hands of the DeBlasio Youth.

      Oswald Spengler

      January 6, 2014 at 5:35 PM

      • Whoever voted for de Blasio deserves what they get. Anyone with a sane mind knows he’s a fraud, and our political system is stacked up with these insincere lefties like this professor in France. Watching his inauguration, he tells his beloved NAMs that he will go after the wealthy elites, who are responsible for their predicament and blames our former mayor for making the city inaccessible to them. I wonder if he was also talking about Bill and Hillary Clinton in the audience. I don’t know how Bloomberg was able to take the crap he was spouting; he should have just cursed at him and walked away from the event.

        JS

        January 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

  8. Peter’s right, but the problem is that young people always have to find a way to make their mark, even if they have to be ahistorical to do so. Most likely, the French became paragons of moral virtue in Am-lib eyes during the ’60s because black jazz musicians returned from France marveling at how colorblind the French were. Under lib orthodoxy, this should have clinched the deal for good, but this guy didn’t get the memo.

    helene edwards

    January 6, 2014 at 4:18 PM

  9. Haha. You should really read the comments section, especially the reader suggested ones. Latte Liberals like smith should all be forced to live in a muslim neighborhood in the same way ordinary french people live, without their ivory towers and pay, forced to compete for the low wage jobs and diminishing benefits. It would be just dessert, but I don’t think they indulge in the ‘diversity’ they promote so much.

    L

    January 6, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    • If our Murkan Liberals were not forced to live among Their Colored Fixxer-Uppers
      In the SPAN of 50 YEARS
      What makes you believe a prissy EuroFag Liberal will suffer themselves
      To Live Amongst “The Childrens” – or bambinos

      Firepower

      January 7, 2014 at 10:41 AM

  10. Yeah, well, that sentiment better turn into something quick. Because France is something like 10% Muslim already. The drop is too big to unmix. Social conflict and equalist rhetoric is imminent.

    baozi

    January 6, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    • There’s also a large contingent of wealthy Chinese proles, and superficial Asians in general, who want savor all the great things that Parisians have to offer, not found in their homelands. The hoarding of French wineries by the Chinese, has lead to a recent blacklash by some of the natives.

      JS

      January 6, 2014 at 7:35 PM

      • Interesting comment. Do the wealthy Chinese proles really know wine, or are they mindlessly gravitating towards the most prestigious (usually oldest) brands? Have winemaker friend in Napa trying to break into that market.

        QWERTY

        January 8, 2014 at 9:26 PM

      • Well we do like the good stuff. Feel free to engage xenophobia (we would).

        baozi

        January 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM

      • It’s rather odd that the Chinese would want to buy French wineries, as they have a low tolerance for alcohol. They are probably buying it as a status symbol. Why would Westerners want their wines to be produced at the hands of the Chinese? Simple, they don’t because the wineries are cash strapped, and they will bend over for foreign investment.

        Ironically, anything of status worshipped by Asians and acquired by them, loses their reputation significantly. Whether its the Ivy League schools or a winery, Westerners will see it as a downgrade.

        JS

        January 10, 2014 at 5:45 PM

  11. The good doctor of philosophy recalls, “I became a philosopher, like many others, in large part because I imagined that doing so would enable me to rise above the murky swamp of local attachment, of ethnic and provincial loyalty, and to embrace the world as a whole, to be a true cosmopolitan.”

    In other words, I can be trusted to betray my fellow countrymen (especially those of the “wrong” kind), for fun and profit.

    Oswald Spengler

    January 6, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    • Welcome to the global elite.

      QWERTY

      January 8, 2014 at 9:42 PM

  12. I read that article as well. The author was writing in obvious bad faith (as Sartre would say). There are clear differences between people coming to France from some destitute, war torn, 3rd world country, and those, say, like the author, from some well educated North America mileiu. The author is baiting the French. Sneering at them for worrying about their social/cultural and economic future. Why can’t they be as sophisticated as I am?

    I’d encourage this guy to go the the Parisian ghettos and let the despised classes know how much he’s done for them. Preferably he should do this late at night on the weekend.

    DelFuego

    January 6, 2014 at 7:41 PM

  13. JS-

    “Tea and Biscuits are for proles who call themselves royalty in Londontown”

    What the hell are you going on about?

    “Spain is the only non-English speaking Euro country that attracts the most Americans”

    This is a meaningless and nonsense statistic. The ‘only’ country that attracts ‘the most’ Americans?! You are an idiot, and in no position to be mocking the ‘proleness’ of anyone or anywhere.

    “Stodgy UK weather, and fish and chips are for proles”

    Weather can’t be stodgy. I can only hope English is your third language. Nor is there anything ‘prole’ about rain and gloomy skies. Personally, it is something I enjoy about being English. It makes the countryside lush, green and verdant and makes for dramatic, moody scenery and landscapes. But of course you wouldn’t understand this.

    Not that there are not many problems in this country, but I wouldn’t trust you to be able to articulate any of them.

    prolier than thou

    January 8, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    • Why don’t you list all the tasty delights that the Brits have to offer?

      Why don’t you make a case as to why Americans should go abroad to China, rather than Spain?

      Why don’t you look up the word stodgy, which means dull or numbing?

      Why don’t you persuade SWPLs to live in a city with gloomy skies, all year round?

      “Personally, it is something I enjoy about being English. It makes the countryside lush, green and verdant and makes for dramatic, moody scenery and landscapes”.

      Personally, I think the Spanish countryside has the same to offer and much more, as Spain’s terrain varies from region to region.

      Last but not least, there are many more British expats living in Spain, than the other way around. What does that tell you?

      JS

      January 8, 2014 at 5:36 PM

      • SWPLs do live in gloomy cities: New York, Portland, Boston, etc. There are far more SWPLs in
        “gloomy” cities than in places like Miami, San Diego, and Houston.

        Also, how much time have you actually spent in Europe? Italy south of Rome is worse than Jersey, and rural Spain certainly isn’t full of would-be Aristotles.

        Renault

        January 8, 2014 at 7:29 PM

      • @ Renault

        Northeast weather isn’t exactly gloomy. Yes, we have the cold months from November to February. Then it becomes nice around March to Mid July. We have enough sunlight for SWPLs to want to jog and take their kids out on strollers. It ain’t Portland and Seattle, where there’s an overcast for most of the year. I gather most liberals would rather want to live in the Northeast than in Portland because there is more sunlight and more job opportunities. Try England where there’s an overcast for about 10 months out of the year.

        Isn’t sunny California more liberal than the Northeast? San Diego may not be SWPL haven (but downtown Gaslamp is full of young liberals), and how about Los Angeles and San Francisco, which of course are very liberal cities.

        I studied abroad in Spain in 2000, and went back several times after that. The shops and infrastructure in the big cities have modernized (gentrified) significantly, where places such as Madrid and Barcelona are comparable to London and Paris. There are world class musuems, interesting bars and many great restaurants that you find in other first world cities. Of course, some pockets are dirty and crime ridden, where you have the homeless, and thieves who try to rob you because you look like a tourist. But it’s no more dangerous than going into Avenue D, Harlem or Washington Heights in Manhattan. The rural areas are of course backwaters, just like most places. In regards to Italy, it’s behind Spain in many ways. I’ve never been to South of Rome, but I heard Naples is very nice. I don’t think there’s any place in Jersey as nice or interesting as Naples, even though it has a reputation for being dirty and gritty.

        You have to remember South Euro has more pros than cons, if you compared it to the US. There is no significant NAM population, superficial libtards or very ignorant proles to give you a hard time. Just interesting culture, and fine goods to be consumed if you have money.

        JS

        January 9, 2014 at 11:30 AM

  14. 400,000 Spanish people from a population of 45 million live in Britain. 750,000 Britons from a population of 60 million live in Spain. Proportionally, not that much difference. But if these ex-pats tell me anything, it is that house prices are so high in Britain, that many working-class British home-owners have been able to afford to retire to Spain. Funnily enough, these people are overwhelmingly ‘prole’. So you share your affinity for Spanish weather with the the most prole section of British society. What does that tell you?

    I don’t care if SWPL people like it here. I have no interest as to whether Americans choose to go to China or Spain. I personally like Spain, but unlike you I don’t see Spain and Britain as being things that you have to choose between as if they are somehow mutually exclusive. Your personal preference for Spain over Britain could have been gleaned from information gleaned from Wikipedia, you make no compelling case for anything other than your own ignorance. When you write pearls of wisdom such as “Bad weather, bad food, ugly women and a sickly looking population, are just a few things to stay away” do you even bother to wonder whether what you have just said makes sense?

    prolier than thou

    January 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM

    • “do you even bother to wonder whether what you have just said makes sense?”

      Probably not lulz… I think you’ll consider it lucky if the guy never discovers GB.

      L

      January 9, 2014 at 2:44 AM

    • What? 400K Spaniards in the UK, no way! Drop one zero and it’s more like it. The sources vary, but the number are lower than six figures.

      http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jan/26/europe-population-who-lives-where

      Bad Weather – Yes, overcast for most of the year, about 10 months.

      Ugly women – UK is deemed to have the ugliest people.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/6542263/British-people-among-worlds-ugliest-according-to-BeautifulPeople.com.html

      Also the most overweight: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15901351

      Bad food – http://www.tdrake.net/london-really-is-the-capital-of-bad-food/

      Sickly looking population – http://gulfnews.com/news/world/uk-among-least-healthy-in-west-europe-1.1154218

      Spanards are the healthiest in the EU:

      http://digitaljournal.com/article/345370

      The English also don’t integrate immigrants as well, especially other White groups! Go look it up.

      JS

      January 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM

      • This proves that the UK is treading prole, if anyone thinks the Brits aren’t there yet.

        http://uk.news.yahoo.com/68-uk-men-overweight-obese-004748377.html?.tsrc=warhol#xTk1IIH

        JS

        January 9, 2014 at 2:19 PM

      • “The English also don’t integrate immigrants as well, especially other White groups!”

        The English are an island race. We are naturally insular. The borders of our country are the borders of our world. We are what we are, what we have evolved to be, and what we need to be. We do not exist to play the role of good hosts and make life easier for people who come to live here. In many ways we are simply not European, so comparisons with European nations are erroneous. You talk about our inability to integrate immigrants, and you ask me what Britain has to offer; ask me to sell the place to you, as if I am a used car salesman, and my country is a car. This shows you have a fundamental lack of understanding as to what a nation actually is, and what it is for. Would your family have a good record of having to integrate other people’s children? Would you care to sell your family to me, to see if I would like to be adopted by your parents? The world and its people are not there to be sold to you, the people of the world are not there to be your playground or your servants. Britain is a community, it is there to serve the needs and interests of its own people.

        prolier than thou

        January 9, 2014 at 5:16 PM

      • Ok, so would you admit that England is a sinking ship and becoming a proleblem? You guys were always prole in my opinion, and have gotten more prole ever since your membership to the EU. The Spaniards have become less prole as a result.

        Blame it on your politicians who favor unrestricted immigration. I also think the cultural norms and the social maladies in the UK, are a cause of major concern. It’s very similar to the United States, but worse.

        JS

        January 9, 2014 at 9:00 PM

  15. Isn’t Europe where all the SWPL/Bobos go to feel at home among those who hate America? Perhaps the reason the good professor is upset that French like Americans is because he doesn’t.

    destructure

    January 16, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    • Pretty much!

      Owning real estate in Spain or a villa in Italy, or some place in Nice, France or Monte Carlo, Monaco is considered high class. It’s equivalent of owning some pricey apartment in Manhattan, below 96th St.

      Tell women that you have properties in Southern Europe and it’s a turn on!

      And high proles in Europe would be SWPLs in America.

      JS

      January 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM

  16. I don’t understand why SWPLs are so upset about a school farming out more SWPLs, basically turning their neighborhood into one college campus.

    http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/nyu-celebrity-opposition/?mid=nymag_press

    What’s wrong with having middle to upper middle class White kids roaming around your neighborhood? Do they want NAMs instead?

    Colleges should now be the main driving force behind the gentrification process and urban renewal. Columbia University has done nothing for its surrounding environs, because it still believes in the old school fortified moat that separates the elites from the average Joe/Jane.

    JS

    January 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM


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