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The future of U.S. politics, as seen in Silicon Valley

Most rich businesspeople can’t vote Republican because they are disgusted by the prole values that Republicans stand for. Anti-abortion? Anti-birth control? Anti-gay? Climate change deniers? No way are rich businesspeople who want to be part of polite society going to vote for that stuff. The Democrats are the only viable party to vote for. But why do the Democrats have to be so anti-business?

Well, as explained in a NY Times article, rich businesspeople in Silicon Valley are doing something about it. They are putting huge money behind Ro Khanna, a Democratic Indian lawyer who is mounting a primary challenge against the incumbent Michael Honda. Khanna “favors changes to tax policy suitable for a global economy, including ones that would make it easier for American companies to repatriate overseas profits without being taxed under certain conditions.”

In other words, multinational corporations who have been evading the spirit of the tax law by keeping their profits overseas should be given a tax holiday and rewarded for it. That’s exactly the stuff that Republicans traditionally support.

I think that as the Republicans become a Christian party that can only wins elections in Bible Belt states, we will see the Democratic Party split apart, into a pro-business SWPL/bobo wing, and another wing representing blacks and Hispanics.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 6, 2014 at 9:15 AM

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  1. 1. For the hundredth time, the Republicans are not becoming a Christian party. The evangelical’s power has been waning for a long time.

    2. The Democrats are not even close to splitting. This is ONE candidate in a Congressional District that is extremely atypical. The split for the Democrats happened in 1968 and is still ongoing; they are chasing the moderates and business friendly Democrats out of the party. It’s a party becoming more anti-business and more leftist.

    Are you just trolling or do you really believe what you are writing?

    Mike Street Station

    February 6, 2014 at 9:28 AM

  2. “I think that as the Republicans become a Christian party that can only wins elections in Bible Belt states, we will see the Democratic Party split apart, into a pro-business SWPL/bobo wing, and another wing representing blacks and Hispanics.”

    I don’t think the Dems will split up just yet, but there will definitely be a push to make themselves more business friendly as the GOP sinks into irrelevance on a national scale.

    Jay

    February 6, 2014 at 10:00 AM

  3. It will never happen with a 2 Democrap factions!

    JS

    February 6, 2014 at 10:02 AM

  4. How far off do you think we are from the splintering of the USA into different countries?

    Shawn

    February 6, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    • A hundred years at least? No one reading the blog will live to see it unless the singularity comes really soon.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 6, 2014 at 10:12 AM

      • A lot people said word-to-word the same thing about the USSR. And then it took less than five years from A to Z.

        mapman

        February 6, 2014 at 6:39 PM

      • I doubt that the visibly dying United States holds together until 2050, let alone into the 22nd century.

        Oswald Spengler

        February 6, 2014 at 6:56 PM

  5. “I think that as the Republicans become a Christian party that can only wins elections in Bible Belt states, we will see the Democratic Party split apart, into a pro-business SWPL/bobo wing, and another wing representing blacks and Hispanics.”

    I’ve had similar thoughts, but I image the split occurring within the GOP. A (mostly southern) Christian Democratic party that would be less pro-business, an Establishment/Chamber of Commerce party that would lead right-wing coalitions, and the Libertarians finally leaving to do their own thing – aligning with the DNC on social issues, and with Establishment GOP on economic issues.

    I could see the DNC spliting after the GOP splits, because attacking Romeny/McCain/Christie for being “jesus freaks” and waging a War on Women wouldn’t make sense. So the internal contradictions of the DNC coalition will cause them to crumble, while the purer right-wing parties agree-to-disagree and form statewide (Gov, Senate, AG, Prez) coalitions, while running their own candidates for seats in House districts and State Houses.

    Basically, we’d evolve into Germany’s political party splits where the CSU is the jesus/family party, and they align with the CDU (establishment) and, sometimes, FDP (German libertarians).

    aki (@DSGNTD_PLYR)

    February 6, 2014 at 11:08 AM

  6. The Republicans will hold together for a while because of the 2010 gerrymandering. They took their power in state legislatures from the Obama reaction election in 2010 and used it to redraw legislative maps all across the nation.

    In 2012, Democrats beat Republicans by 2% for seats in the House of Representatives. Republicans won a majority by 30 seats. That’s how gerrymandering works. I expect to see Democrats win more votes and Republicans more seats in every election until the next redistricting in 2022. That majority will hold Republicans together.

    When the districts are redrawn again for 2022, Democrats will have suffered a decade without power in Congress because of it. Expect them to hit back hard. Very hard. Republicans will finally be reduced to a regional party without hope of electing a congress or a president.

    Then the crack up of the Democrats will proceed. With a large national majority, Democrats will see their own internal divisions as deeper and more important. I don’t know where the fault line will be, but one side will pick up the pro-commerce, entrepreneurial, gypsy moth style culturally moderate Republicans. That will be the side to vote for.

    Owen

    February 6, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    • 2020 will be a wave election for the GOP (they are good at timing at least)– 2016 will go to the Dems because of the economy, but fatigue won’t let that person be reelected. From a long term perspective it will be smarter for the GOP to tank 2016 and run a ‘true conservative’ in 2020 when the win is almost a lock and redistricting is up for grabs.

      I would predict that 2030 will also go to the GOP because it will be a midterm and the first election where all of the Baby Boomers are over 65.

      America won’t have a consistently Democratic Congress again until 2042. But then it’s game over. A conservative white-majority party will never again control Congress.

      The marbles in Lou Holtz mouth

      February 6, 2014 at 3:51 PM

  7. Repubs ALWAYS were the party of the Capitalist Class.

    It’s your disgusting lil’ Xtians who glommed-on to it.
    It’s why you see them now abandoning it in DROVES to join the TEA Party.

    The Repubs are the ones who want to
    “limit IMMIGS”

    But only because Repubbies want to have a WHITE person cleaning their toilet and mowing their lawns.
    Like in the “good” Old Days.

    Firepower

    February 6, 2014 at 11:28 AM

  8. Then, because the electoral college encourages a two party system at the national level, the bobo/swpl Dems will take over the GOP. And Huckabee will lead the Christian Right back into the Dem tent, alongside their church going brothers and sisters in the black and Latino communities.

    Dave Pinsen

    February 6, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    • Nonsense. People vote their race first. SWPLs will never vote for the “White party”(else they wouldn’t be swpls would they?) and White Christians will never vote for the anti-White party.

      Jim

      February 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM

      • Your second and third sentences contradict each other. You say people vote their race first and then say SWPLs will never vote for the “White Party”. One or both these two things will happen in my scenario:

        1) SWPLs, after taking over the GOP, won’t let it be called the “White Party”. Yeah, it won’t be much more non-white than the GOP is now, but since SWPLs control the media, it won’t be portrayed that way.

        2) As whites become a minority, intra-white status posturing will decline as whites start acting more like minorities politically.

        As for white Christians you should have seen some of their enthusiastic reactions to the Coke commercial Sunday. Devout white Christians are, in their own conception, Christians first and whites last, if at all.

        Dave Pinsen

        February 6, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    • I think this is a real possibility. The dividing line in the country has shifted multiple times between white v non-white and black v non-black. Right now we are white v non-white, but it will shift to black v non-black as we get more second and third generation Asians and hispanics. What causes that shift? It could certainly be the religious nature of the blacks. A party of urban non-blacks vs blacks and rural whites?

      The marbles in Lou Holtz mouth

      February 6, 2014 at 3:55 PM

    • I have thought of this occurring too, and it should gall us all if the Republicans manage to come out on top notwithstanding the chaos and destruction they have brought onto the American people.

      Daniel

      February 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

  9. I think that as the Republicans become a Christian party that can only wins elections in Bible Belt states, we will see the Democratic Party split apart, into a pro-business SWPL/bobo wing, and another wing representing blacks and Hispanics

    Doubt it. There is nothing much of a black and hispanic leadership that could lead them away from the dem establishment. The leadership that does exist is highly dependent on white liberal financing and connections. A majority of Blacks already oppose the amnesty and immigration surge bill but you see all the leadership supporting it.

    Jim

    February 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    • Yeah, but it’s going to get to the point where SWPL Dems simply can’t be run as candidates. Hillary may be their last gasp on the national level. An increasingly NAM grassroots isn’t going to turn out for SWPL candidates like Wendy Davis in Texas; they will demand their own candidates.

      Dave Pinsen

      February 6, 2014 at 11:46 AM

      • And from that point, it’s only a step or two to minority groups demanding their own national territories. The American Southwest will be the flash-point. Hispanic lobbies like La Raza will push for secession and the establishment of Aztlan, which will begin the the inevitable breakup of the United States.

        Oswald Spengler

        February 6, 2014 at 11:26 PM

      • I made a comment like this on Lion’s old blog: the next realignment will occur when the SWPLs who run the Democratic Party can no longer control it because they’re being outvoted by NAMs. This is bound to happen first in California.

        Bilbo Baggins

        February 11, 2014 at 11:26 AM

  10. ro Khanna isn’t the only ‘pro business/financier’ liberal running against an incumbent; seth moulton (H UG, marines, HBS/HKS) is running as a Dem. in Massachusetts against an incumbent who is to the left of him.

    lion is partially right about this phenomenon and you will see the numbers growing of this type of ‘dem’ mounting primary challenges to incumbents who are to their left of the challenger.

    uatu

    February 6, 2014 at 12:12 PM

  11. Just like Mexico, when the dominant PRI broke into 3 parties, all of them singing the same agenda.

    Colmainen

    February 6, 2014 at 1:32 PM

  12. The Dems are not about to split. They are just entering their salad days and will enjoy demographic dominance for – well – maybe 100 years. The Republican boogeyman can still be trotted out to paper over any differences between SWPLs, blacks, immigrants, gays and other members of the ruling coalition. The GOP used to create boogeymen of their own – Willie Horton, Reagan’s welfare queens, commies, Hollywood liberals …etc. But they are too scared and pussified to hit back now.

    Bernie

    February 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

  13. “Most rich businesspeople can’t vote Republican because they are disgusted by the prole values that Republicans stand for. Anti-abortion? Anti-birth control? Anti-gay? Climate change deniers? No way are rich businesspeople who want to be part of polite society going to vote for that stuff.”

    —————————————————————————————————————————————

    “You see, their morals, their code, it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. I’ll show you. When the chips are down, these…these civilized people, they’ll eat each other. “

    Oswald Spengler

    February 6, 2014 at 6:41 PM

  14. As the Republican Party collapses (does not become the white Christian Party but just goes away) many of the Chamber of Commerce, establishment Republicans will easily move over to the Democratic Party and run to the right of the progressives who are the current Democratic Party establishment.

    In current one party states like Maryland, there are candidates like Doug Gansler for governor, who are trying to run as moderate Democrats against high taxes and stifling regulations. http://marylandreporter.com/2013/10/06/gansler-calls-himself-pro-business-democrat-in-a-one-party-state-joins-gop-candidates-in-calling-for-tax-cuts/

    The Democratic establishment has responded by personally destroying them. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/gansler/

    Anyone who thinks that people will be able to operate outside of the established Democratic Party just need to look at how quickly the establishment Democrats destroyed Chris Christie. Unless a candidate has been planning on running since high school and has perfect discipline to avoid any controversy, there is no chance that someone will have the leadership ability to help create a new political party.

    superdestroyer

    February 6, 2014 at 6:46 PM

  15. Why and when did ‘polite society’ become pro-homo? Is it a reversion to aristocratic ways when fancy homos catered to the aristocrats who loved fluffy-doo stuff?

    There was a time when the values of polite society in America weren’t all that different from the values of mass society. On basic issues of patriotism, family, social values, normality, morality, and etc, they saw eye to eye–and this was true even between whites and blacks(prior to the 60s that gave rise to hedonistic youth culture and angry black politics). But why this COMING APART in values? The lower classes go for ass tattoos and twerking to rap music while the upper classes of New Polite Society go for homophilia and fancy-pants neo-aristocratic hipster airs.

    It seems the conservative middle is moving apart from both polite society and prole society. Indeed, all those ‘conservative’ values you list are not really ‘prole’ anymore. There are lots of ‘white trash’ who are into the same kind of decadence that affects polite society. Rich elites run the entertainment industry that gives us Miley Cyrus and celebration of twerking(as well as the interracist bleating of Kanye West), and dumb ‘prole’ masses suck it all up; after all, among people under 30, 80% are for ‘gay marriage’ because they grew up hooked to junk culture peddled by the elites who run the movie, tv, and music industry.
    It’s the portion of the middle class that remains conservative, rejecting both elite decadence and prole vulgarity of the Howard Stern school.

    Andrea Ostrov Letania

    February 6, 2014 at 7:14 PM

  16. Two words: Reshma Saujani.

    George Costanza

    February 6, 2014 at 11:12 PM

  17. The Democrat party has been more pro-business for 20 years now, since Bill Clinton and the DNC. Top Dems are allied with Wall Street and big corporations (except tobacco and big oil). Meanwhile, Republican voters (if not the leaders) are becoming more anti-business and racially aware. They’re trying to turn the GOP into the populist, Christian working class party Lion has talked about. This party might get a few more blacks than the current GOP and will probably get more whites, while losing even more among Hispanics. The problem with a populist GOP is donors will flee – meaning the GOP voters need to fix the money in politics problem first. But one thing is pretty clear – a party only standing for tax cuts and more guns will never win national elections.

    For all of those talking about the death of the GOP, we lost a rather close election in 2012, control the House, may win the Senate this year, and control most Governorships.

    Jeff

    February 6, 2014 at 11:51 PM

  18. I’ve never come across a Republican who was anti-birth control. Not saying they aren’t out there, but I’ve never seen one, though most oppose taxpayer provided birth control (whether that’s a rational position is a different matter). Republicans, outside a small faction of the religious right, aren’t generally opposed to abortion rights, except for extreme stuff like partial-birth. Even the supposedly restrictive laws passed by Texas made Texas’ abortion law about the same as, and in some cases more liberal than that of most European countries. Liberals are always telling me how the US should be more like Europe. Except when it shouldn’t, I guess. Republicans have done a crappy job of defining what constitutes “anti-gay” or more correctly, “intolerant”, and making the case that the term “climate change” is so vague as to be meaningless, and that it conflates several different beliefs one may hold. In a similar vein, they’ve done a lousy job defining environmentalism as what it really is – a religion.

    Democrats aren’t anti-business; they’re anti-small business.

    J1

    February 7, 2014 at 4:24 PM

  19. Perhaps the more pressing issues are local. I saw the SF Chronicle have an article about California demographics: Hispanics are overtaking whites this March (39% vs 38 point something). Wow, that was quick.

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Latinos-set-to-surpass-whites-in-California-in-5146876.php

    And at the same time, some venture capital clever-clever guy is trialing a proposal to split Cali into six states, no less. Coincidence? Article says “… the Golden State has been rendered “nearly ungovernable” by social and economic changes.” Oh dear.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/30/technology/california-split-draper/index.html

    Glengarry

    February 10, 2014 at 5:00 PM


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