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Rand Paul, HBD denier

Yesterday, Rand Paul spoke at the Conservative Freedom Summit. And he had this to say:

The door’s not going to open up to the Africa-American community, to the Hispanic community, until we have something to offer. If you look at the war on drugs, three out of four people in prison are black or brown. But your kids and grandkids aren’t perfect either. The police don’t come to your neighborhoods, you get a better lawyer, these are some injustices.

So “black and brown” people are in prison not because they commit more crimes, but because the cops don’t go to white neighborhoods and because black and brown people have bad lawyers.

There’s a police station right near me. I guess they didn’t get the Rand Paul message that they’re not supposed to be in my white neighborhood.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Posted in Crime, Politics

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  1. White people are generally smart enough to do their drugs indoors.

    ScarletNumber

    April 13, 2014 at 9:46 PM

  2. So “black and brown” people are in prison not because they commit more crimes, but because the cops don’t go to white neighborhoods and because black and brown people have bad lawyers.

    Yep. Reason enough right there to never vote for this guy. He’s yet another democrat-lite. Who has actually been realistic about matters racial from the Republican party? Buchanan and Tancredo, that I know of. The rest of them are precious little better than the Dems.

    John

    April 13, 2014 at 9:49 PM

  3. Paul is not known for his Christianity is he?

    I’m get a lot of this nonsense from an evangelical Christian Republican who is forever trying to legitimize his beliefs by associating HBD with 1) eugenics and therefore abortion which he believes is wrong; 2) racism which he thinks is grounded in slavery which was opposed by Christians (abolitionists) though I don’t think he fully understands that revulsion at miscegenation played a big role in abolitionist concern over slavery; 3) liberals, oddly enough; 4) anti-creationism. He also sees the civil rights movement as a mostly Christian effort. He’s basically accepted the Hillsdale College line (which is mostly a lie) that free market economics combined with religious values can save any population, including blacks, and that the Democrats are basically relegating blacks to a modern ‘plantation.’ He completely dismisses any notion of a ‘southern strategy’ or a recognition that former southern whites who used to be Democrats and are now Republicans shifted to the Republicans to preserve their pocketbooks from predation by spoils seeking blacks and are counting on the Republicans to help them do that.

    Curle

    April 13, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    • He’s anti-abortion, which means some association with Christianity.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 14, 2014 at 7:02 AM

    • “He completely dismisses any notion of a ‘southern strategy’ or a recognition that former southern whites who used to be Democrats and are now Republicans shifted to the Republicans to preserve their pocketbooks from predation by spoils seeking blacks and are counting on the Republicans to help them do that.”

      I agree that many people are Republicans because they object to having their pocketbooks looted. However, the idea that Southern Democrats switched parties is a myth. There were 18 Dixiecrat politicians. Strom Thurmond and Miles Godwin were the only two to switch parties. The other 16 remained life-long Democrats including George Wallace, Robert Byrd, Al Gore, Sr and Bull Connor. As for voters, most never switched parties either. What happened was that the next generation of voters was more Republican than the previous. Realize that the difference between a solid blue state and a solid red state is only a few percentage points. So if the next generation is a little more red than the previous then the state flips.

      destructure

      April 14, 2014 at 8:05 AM

      • I forgot that Jesse Helms switched, too. So that’s three who switched and the rest stayed Democrat.

        destructure

        April 14, 2014 at 8:09 AM

  4. So… the usual drivel.

    doombuggy

    April 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM

  5. Translation: “If we conservatives only genuflect before black and brown people enough, eventually they’ll vote for us.”

    You can forget it, Rand. White leftist Democrats have perfected ethnomasochist politics. They are second to none when it comes to pandering and self abasement before their black and brown constituents.

    Oswald Spengler

    April 13, 2014 at 11:09 PM

  6. Yeah, his old man was spouting the same nonsense during the debates. I don’t know whether it’s an act or not, but either way it’s pathetic and idiotic. Not voting for him because he’s just a libertarian which means open borders.

    fakeemail

    April 13, 2014 at 11:18 PM

  7. Is this really a libertarianism issue?

    Rand Paul is probably too smart to fall for this nonsense. He’s rather more likely gearing up for a necessarily opportunistic lifelong politician career.

    Thomas

    April 14, 2014 at 12:52 AM

  8. I guess the key to the nomination is who can say the most cringeworthy PC-whipped statement. First it was Jeb’s “infiltration is an act of love”, now this whole “They commit as many crimes as we do” pretty lie. I wanna hear a Republican candidate have some nads and say something like this: “I believe in HBD. I believe its about time creationism takes a back seat to reason in the Republican party!”.

    Monroe Ficus

    April 14, 2014 at 6:24 AM

  9. Your link says “Ron Paul.”

    anon

    April 14, 2014 at 6:30 AM

  10. Yea cry me a river. Not getting my vote

    grey enlightenment

    April 14, 2014 at 6:41 AM

  11. Is it really true that police don’t go to white neighborhoods? I’m not sure it is. Police may spend more time in high crime neighborhoods because they have to go where the crime is. But if you look at the amount of time police spend in a neighborhood divided by the amount of crime committed in that neighborhood it’s probably comparable.

    What Rand is doing is pandering to “black and brown” paranoia and prejudice to get votes. I could just as easily see him giving speeches about how the police are ignoring “black and brown” neighborhoods by not gong there enough. Rather than blaming the police for arresting criminals people should blame criminals for breaking the law.

    destructure

    April 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM

    • “Is it really true that police don’t go to white neighborhoods”

      In my locality middle-class-and-up neighborhood associations are always pleading with residents to report even minor property crimes in order to get increased police patrols.

      anon

      April 14, 2014 at 6:55 PM

  12. We live in a Dark Age, and age of Lysenkoism, delusion, superstition and scientific and mathematical illiteracy.

    bob sykes

    April 14, 2014 at 7:46 AM

  13. I think he’s really trying to get them to see the implications of the drug war.

    rob

    April 14, 2014 at 8:14 AM

  14. Rand is merely buying racism insurance. For some Republicans it’s amnesty, but for Rand he’s taking advantage of his grab bag ideology to blame racist cops and a racist system. He’ll need all the racism insurance he can get if he formally enters the race. He has his father’s newsletters and his confederate chief of staff to explain away.

    Mike Street Station

    April 14, 2014 at 8:29 AM

  15. Now there’s a winning message to attract the GOP’s older, white, Middle American base. The blacks who rob and harass you are not the problem – you are!

    Rand Paul – an Al Sharpton Republican.

    Bernie

    April 14, 2014 at 8:55 AM

  16. I think it is possible to be both a libertarian and a believer in HBD. If you were both, you couldn’t take the standard libertarian position on immigration. Some libertarians like Friedman, Hayek, Mises, Charles Murray, Hoppe and the older Rothbard haven’t been pro-open borders. A libertarian society wouldn’t have the dysgenic effects of a big welfare state which subsidizes low IQ females to have children so HBD believers should have no quarrels with libertarians in that area.

    Mark

    April 14, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    • The issue isn’t libertarian or something else, the issue is the Overton Window. The Blank Slaters have simply succeeded in making sure the Overton Window will not accept any notion of black failure that isn’t grounded in some externality or cultural condition. According to the theory (overton window), Lion would represent that forgotten outlier for whom no expansion of the Overton Window can occur but who will nevertheless have to cede credit for the opening, when it comes, to some other more conventional political type. In other words, Lion and the rest of the HBD blogosphere (if Lion is part of that blogosphere) are the advance team for an unknown political opportunist to come at a later date. Who will be the successful opportunist who opens the window is the big question.

      Curle

      April 14, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    • “I think it is possible to be both a libertarian and a believer in HBD.”

      This is possible, just like being a liberal and a believer in HDB. It is just not very consistent.

      “A libertarian society wouldn’t have the dysgenic effects of a big welfare state”

      It would mitigate some of the dysgenism, but not all. Dysgenism is a “feature” of advanced industrial societies.

      Thomas

      April 15, 2014 at 5:57 AM

      • I can see a liberal believing in HBD. A liberal believer in HBD might argue that poor people aren’t intelligent enough to make their own decisions and take care of themselves and need a paternalistic welfare state. It’s not hard for me to imagine a liberal thinking he’s smarter than other people and wanting to tell them what to do and how to live. That pretty much describes every liberal I meet. A libertarian or conservative HBD believer would have more of a sink or swim philosophy for poor people.

        Mark

        April 15, 2014 at 8:48 PM

  17. This might be an attempt to appeal to women. It’s the same reason you see a lot of black people on the stage at the GOP convention. They know it won’t get them many black votes, but it will attract soccer moms who do not want to vote for a racist party. It is worth pointing out that Rand Paul is on record for saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a bad idea. He got bad press and has since kept quiet about it, but he never said he changed his mind.

    BehindTheLines

    April 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM

  18. There is actually nothing Rand said here that contradicts HBD. Yes, blacks are more violent. Yes blacks have lower IQ. Yes they commit more crimes. But the specific “crime” Rand is talking about here is Drugs, which isn’t a real “crime”, and black kids don’t use drugs at rates appreciably higher than whites. Blacks get in trouble more for drugs simply because they are dumber and poorer. When I buy pot, I get it from my white neighbor that I’ve known for years who lives in the same nice neighborhood I do. Blacks on the other hand, tend to buy and sell drugs on the street in poor urban neighborhoods, where the odds of getting caught are much, much higher.

    The Drug War is actually one of the only examples where the “racism” card actually holds some water. Unlike rape, murder, or theft, drug use is widespread among white youth and hardly any of them get in trouble for it compared to their black counterparts. There is a HBD reason the whites don’t caught as much yes, but you can believe in HBD and still think that’s unfair. I certainly do.

    FatDrunkAndStupid

    April 16, 2014 at 12:31 AM


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