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Court document says that Elliott does NOT have Asperger’s

The document filed by Peter Rodger in 1999, which was only a week before Elliot’s 8th birthday:

9. Though RESPONDENT claims in her Court documents that our son, Elliot, “is a high functioning autistic child”, I was not involved in any prior evaluation of Elliot. RESPONDENT did not inform me about any evaluation of Elliot. This disturbed me greatly.

I am now in the process of having Elliot evaluate by a child psychiatrist. RESPONDENT has agreed to be part of this process.

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Unrelated, a photo of Elliot’s psychiatrist, Charles Sophy, posing with a porn actress with HUGE breasts at a “charity event.”

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Link to Peter Rodger’s art photos of women’s naked behinds.

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What happens when you have a severely shy young man whose father sells photos of women’s naked behinds, and he is sent to a psychiatrist who dates porn actresses?

When I said that he was getting the message from the adults in his life that women are valued only for their looks, I didn’t think that includes his psychiatrist!

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 28, 2014 at 9:45 PM

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  1. What happens when you have a severely shy young man whose father sells photos of women’s naked behinds, and he is sent to a psychiatrist who dates porn actresses?

    “no, it’s ALL genetic”, said the hbd-er.

    jorge videla

    May 28, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    • That porn star also ran for governor of California after Davis got recalled.

      Dave Pinsen

      May 29, 2014 at 12:42 AM

    • “hbd-ers” don’t deny the influence of environment. Rather, it’s liberal creationists who deny the importance of genetics.

      destructure

      May 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

      • hbd-ers don’t even know what they mean by “genetics” and “environment”.

        jorge videla

        May 29, 2014 at 7:58 PM

  2. Check out this story about Charles Saatchi’s domestic relations. Saatchi’s gallery is where Elliot’s father sold his photos. Cripes, this kid was surrounded by strange men. Makes you wonder what the daughter is doing that wasn’t reported in Elliot’s bio?

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigella-lawson-photos-see-shocking-1955564

    Curle

    May 28, 2014 at 9:59 PM

  3. What a bunch of morally bankrupt zilches. It’s little wonder the kid was a hopeless wreck.

    Oswald Spengler

    May 28, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    • Yeah, worse he was getting mental health direction from a guy associated with Real Housewives.
      That is a cauldron of unreality: fame for the sake of fame. No one with a sense of moderation, all drama and and amped up conflict.

      Elliot “seething with rage” at some non-slight makes sense in that context.

      Lion of the Turambar

      May 29, 2014 at 9:22 AM

  4. lion has responded to some claiming the shooter felt entitled to sex.

    but isn’t that “the secret”. not to behave as if one felt entitled but to actually feel entitled.

    it seems the men women most want think of women as accessories and not even human.

    of course, women don’t know what they want. men do. this supports the hypothesis that not having a Y chromosome is like being a mongoloid.

    jorge videla

    May 28, 2014 at 10:42 PM

  5. Thank you for the pivot to the parents. I have a good friend who is a psychologist and he was floored to realize that his father had a hobby of photographing naked women. he could not believe this had not been covered more widely – perhaps to not make the parents suffer too much in the initial shock.

    i am sure my friend will also be shocked (as am I) to learn that elliot’s shrink was a fame-whore-basket-case . this shrink looks like the kind of guy who is the ultimate disservice to his profession. I guess literally, the shrink is so bad he is a menace to society.

    when a person with “issues” is in an unsupportive environment that aggravates rather than mitigates his “issues” it almost starts to make sense how this could have happened.

    i would love to see the public narrative talk about how parents need to take more responsibility for the example they set.

    ordinarily that would be foolish, but this event was in the secular, liberal, fringe-hollywood/west-coast community, that perhaps reason will overcome bias (easier to discount when the shooting is in hicksville).

    i just can’t take the diversion into gun control. half the victims here were not killed with guns, which makes gun control as the sole focus arguably irrational.

    but gun control must feel like a safe, comfortable platitude in a time of trouble. when you are personally involved in a deeply painful process, hard to take a step back to reasses.

    lion of the lionosphere

    May 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    • “he could not believe this had not been covered more widely – perhaps to not make the parents suffer too much in the initial shock.” —————————————————————————— Then he is not as cynical as I am because this is exactly as I expected the event to unfold POV-wise, err news-wise.

      We don’t have a news industry in the US, we have a point of view industry and each and every event that can be used to move the needle of authority up or down a notch either in favor or against a particular point of view will be. There is no such thing as disinterested delivery of information as it relates to anything with a possible cultural impact.

      To focus on the parents is to take attention away from the guns, the alleged misogyny and the racism. Everything that comes through the TV or major news outlet is pre-packaged to deliver a background message. We are being completely manipulated.

      Had he ever attended a Republican party event ever, even as someone’s guest, it would have received more publicity than any fact relating to his parent, unless of course they had happened to be religious, then we would have heard nothing but details about their religious habits. That his parents are almost certainly pervvy Hollywood liberals means they will receive the slightest of attention.

      Curle

      May 29, 2014 at 1:25 AM

  6. one other interesting question – for how many years did elliot see dr sophy?

    lion of the lionosphere

    May 28, 2014 at 11:10 PM

    • It’s not clear. Here’s a passage, however:

      My parents arranged for us to have a conference with my Psychiatrist, Dr. Charles Sophy. I set out with my mother to meet father outside Dr. Sophy’s house in Beverly Hills, and when we got there we were surprised to see that Soumaya had come for the conference too. This presented a conflict, because Soumaya and my mother had recently had an argument due to Soumaya refusing to let me stay at father’s house during my mother’s trip to Hawaii. For more than half of the conversation, the doctor spent time resolving this petty conflict instead of addressing the troubles that I was going through. When we finally did get to my situation, Dr. Sophy ended up giving me the same useless advice that every other psychiatrist, psychologist, and counsellor had given me in the past. I don’t know why my parents wasted money on therapy, as it will never help me in my struggle against such a cruel and unjust world. The doctor ended up dismissing it by prescribing me a controversial medication, Risperidone. After researching this medication, I found that it was the absolute wrong thing for me to take. I refused to take it, and I never saw Dr. Sophy again after that.

  7. I agree with you Lion, I see little evidence of Asperger’s. People these days carelessly toss out that diagnosis for anyone the least bit odd.

    Extreme neuroticism and crippling social anxiety were his biggest problems, but I would add to that list pathological narcissism and psychopathy. He wasn’t merely a loser, he was a loser who thought himself a “god” and who lacked a basic capacity for empathy. Without those last two traits, we would be looking at a mere suicide rather than a rampage shooting.

    By the way, his friend Maddy was an acquaintance of mine back at USC.

    bigJoeGoebbels

    May 28, 2014 at 11:28 PM

    • but social norms become absolutes in the minds of sheeple. and medicine has authority.

      one very stark difference in social norms between the anglosphere and everywhere else.

      people think I’m insane because I am frowning all the time.

      frowning all the time is the norm outside the prolesphere.

      jorge videla

      May 29, 2014 at 2:15 AM

    • “I agree with you Lion, I see little evidence of Asperger’s. People these days carelessly toss out that diagnosis for anyone the least bit odd.

      Extreme neuroticism and crippling social anxiety were his biggest problems…”

      LOL! Nice brown nosing. You just happened to arrive at the same goofy, archaic “diagnosis” of “high neuroiticism”. Seriously, I have to stop reading this blog. It’s a joke.

      RBGEORGE

      May 29, 2014 at 5:42 AM

      • Great, go away. Bye.

      • is there any blog which isn’t a joke?

        jorge videla

        May 29, 2014 at 7:59 PM

      • rbgeorge was trying to explain a while back how “autism” is a form of “psychopathy”. that is, as if both “autism” and “psychopathy” referred to thing in the real world.

        psychology is dominated by gays and lesbians.

        rbgeorge likely hands out towels at a bath house.

        jorge videla

        May 30, 2014 at 1:05 AM

  8. Soumaya was the model for many of these butt photos. What effect it must have had on Rodger to know that his dad was posting his stepmother’s naked butt online.

    Tanizaki

    May 29, 2014 at 1:52 AM

    • I was going to bring that up as well. And you know given her obvious vanity (nobody does a “Housewives” show unless they are incredibly vain) they probably have prints of those photos all over their house. So there’s Elliott, who has no natural “yuk” effect about being sexually excited by his step-mother, having to see all that stuff. It’s just all so screwed up.

      peterike

      May 29, 2014 at 9:59 AM

      • Is there a ‘natural’ yuk effect when it is your step-mom as opposed to a biological relative?

        Curle

        May 30, 2014 at 12:15 AM

  9. Bipolar people are very creative. They are not morally bankrupt. Their morals depend on where they are in their bipolar cycle.

    MyTwoCents

    May 29, 2014 at 1:53 AM

  10. THANK YOU! Lion’s instincts were dead on. THIS is the kind of world that the kid grew up in – a freakshow. People like Rodger’s dad, stepmom, and psychiatrist are the NORM in the entertainment industry. Not everyonez is this decadent, but most of them are. Most of us are from healthier backgrounds and simply assume that Elliott Rodger’s father was a more-or-less conventional father, that his psychiatrist was a more-or-less conventional psychiatrist, and that the people in his life have more-or-less conventional values. But they’re not, and they don’t. They are decadent, morally bankrupt freaks. Not everyone in the entertainment industry is like this, but the vast majority are people like Rodger’s dad and the psychiatrist. Those of us who are not like them stay as far away from the industry as possible in our personal lives. I am really glad that Lion is exposing the seamy underside of this world. It’s critical to understanding why Rodger turned out the way he did. .

    Joe Schmoe

    May 29, 2014 at 8:56 AM

  11. Oh, come on. Her breasts aren’t “HUGE.” There I was, loosening my trousers, getting ready for a little self-love, and you link to f’ing Mary Carey?? Cold shot, bro.

    sciences with lisps

    May 29, 2014 at 10:11 AM

  12. His dad is just trying to get out of paying child support by saying, “well, I wasn’t there when he was diagnosed!” Then he pays some other shrink to find the opposite, and of course the other shrink finds the opposite. That doesn’t mean his mother didn’t haul him to a shrink when he was seven and get an actual Asperger’s diagnosis. That also doesn’t mean he actually had Asperger’s. It just means his dad didn’t want to pay child support.

    Dippity Do

    May 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM

    • You need to read more critically.

      1. Yes, I agree with you that the father was trying to avoid child support.
      2. However, the mother just labels him a “high functioning autistic child” without presenting any explanation of where the diagnosis came from, which leads me to believe it was the mother’s own diagnosis and not one from a menhal health professional.


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