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Why did Elliot think he was a “gentleman”?

This was a major theme in his videos, that girls should like him because he’s a “gentleman.” This is taken as proof by some that he has a narcissistic personality disorder, even though he’s just acting in front of a camera (where he’s all alone and not subject to social anxiety) and never behaved in a grandiose manner in real life.

This sounds like some nonsense he learned from his mother. I can imagine how the conversation went.

Elliot: “Mommy, I’m a loser. No girl will ever like me because they only like jocks.”

Li Chin: “Of course girls will like you Elliot, because you are a gentleman, and that’s far more important to girls than being a jock.”

“Gentleman” sounds like a word that an Asian woman would use.

In retrospect, it was very bad advice. In fact, someone like the blogger formerly known as Roissy would have identified that as bad advice even without any hindsight.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 29, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Posted in Males and Females

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  1. I love the push-pull bro-game thing you and Heartiste have going. He’ll zing you as “lamb of the blogosphere” on his site, and then approvingly link to you on Twitter.

    You have him on your blogroll, but just now went out of your way to not use his current nickname.

    Fiddlesticks

    May 29, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    • “lamb of the blogosphere”

      When I read that the other day I thought, “Oh no he didn’t!”

      Robert

      May 29, 2014 at 12:25 PM

      • Heartiste is just jealous cause actual interesting discussion takes place on this blog, not just polemics 😉

        shiva1008

        May 29, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    • LoftB = Dr. Jekyll, the Psychiatrist
      CH = Mr. Hyde, the PUA instructor

      Lion is clearly more superior, as good trumps evil. And Lion has much more status than he does.

      JS

      May 29, 2014 at 11:27 PM

  2. Yes, he probably did get this from the women in his life. Young men actually benefit from male role modeling by older relatives and friends, duh.

    These “beta rage” killers are all sheltered prisses — superficially polite but seething with rage on the inside.

    Teenage Elliott would have been better off in a low prole neighborhood where he could have had the opportunity to act out by getting in normal teenage hijincks with other losers– fights, vandalism, alcohol or drug use.

    Ava Lon

    May 29, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    • Yeah the number of times this guy said he was enraged about x y or z was unbelievable. Sure, get your dander up about actual injustice but if the guy hadn’t killed himself he would have died of a coronary by age 40 just from the stress of getting enraged by everyday occurences.

      BS Inc

      May 30, 2014 at 3:11 PM

  3. Yup. Baby-boomer moms who were no longer getting their emotional needs met by checked-out, irritable, inconsiderate husbands. All they wanted was a “gentleman.”

    Unfortunately, the lonely-mom feminism playbook was a disaster when applied to Millennial carousel feminism. Seems like something they should have fought out amongst themselves, but apparently it’s easier to simply yell “patriarchy” as loudly as possible.

    Fiddlesticks

    May 29, 2014 at 9:45 AM

  4. Because in his mind a gentleman was the opposite of a brute, which he knew he wasn’t. A brute would have been a male with a preternatural interest in women and sex, so much so that he’d take any opportunity to get it. Unlike Elliot who only wanted women for their status appeal.

    Curle

    May 29, 2014 at 9:54 AM

  5. Part of it might be from the belief that he is descended from an aristocratic British family.

    sabril

    May 29, 2014 at 10:09 AM

  6. And who refers to other guys as “brutes”? He keeps whining that women reject him, but I seriously doubt he gave them a chance to. Had he actually approached an attractive blonde, he would have peed his pants.

    Brendan

    May 29, 2014 at 10:45 AM

    • 1. Elliot had severe shyness that made him TERRIFIED of talking to girls.

      2. He didn’t have a complete understanding of how other guys would talk to girls and make the first moves on them, because to him it was such an alien way of behaving.

  7. This is just a common word I’m seeing a lot of young guys bat around as the opposition to the ‘jock’/’frat boy’ guys they hate (who get all the women), possibly because they perceive them as taking advantage of women. One of my sons was watching some Youtube gaming losers cavort for the camera a year or so ago and came away telling me he wanted to be a ‘gentleman’. I am all for decorum when it’s necessary, but not the trumped up ‘my lady’ genuflection idiocy so common among the young men today. The kibosh was put upon it that day.

    Sisyphean

    May 29, 2014 at 11:10 AM

    • Elliot probably would have been successful with women who were the nerdy types. Most men however are attracted to “bitches” the same way girls like jerks.

      JS

      May 29, 2014 at 12:39 PM

      • I don’t disagree with you. From my experience as a short nerdy guy the nerdy girls and tomboys are much more accepting of guys who aren’t normal in one way or another. That’s where most of my interest came from when I was Elliot’s age and I was happy for the attention. However Elliot’s social anxiety and/or Neuroticism seems extreme to me. If one of my sons started acting like this kid, playing WOW all the time while simultaneously whining/complaining about not having a girlfriend, I would explain to him that those two things might in fact have some connection. Of course, I take an interest in my kids and watch them carefully, something that not everyone is inclined or able to do.

        Sisyphean

        May 29, 2014 at 1:47 PM

      • Evidence from the autobiography is that Elliot was aware of that, or became aware of it after a while. But after he quit playing, he seems to have gotten worse.

      • This is bullshit. Men like women who are feminine in both looks and demeanor, full stop. Nobody likes a bitch.

        Patrick

        May 29, 2014 at 1:48 PM

      • Nerdy types who clean up well are still on the carousel through their 20s. They can get morsels of attention which cause them to disavow lesser betas and fool them into thinking they are close to getting a commitment.

        Some of the less-sophisticated and more neurotic among them actually do end up marrying the type of grifter alpha who sees her as a mommy and a paycheck. (Google “my husband won’t work”)

        Anyone in Rodger’s cohort was still 10 years away from caring about beta bux.

        Fiddlesticks

        May 29, 2014 at 2:50 PM

      • This is bullshit. Men like women who are feminine in both looks and demeanor, full stop. Nobody likes a bitch.

        Many feminine – overly attractive women are bitches. Alpha men see them as “game” to be slayed, if you will.

        JS

        May 29, 2014 at 4:06 PM

      • JS, You’re confusing correlation and causation. Yes, many of the hottest and most superficially desirable women are indeed bitches, as a result of many factors which Roissy examines daily. But the key here is that many of the ugliest, least desirable women (invariably feminist) are megabitches and worse, and you don’t see alpha men going for them on account of their horrible attitudes and demeanor out of some desire for conquest.

        If all hot women were sweet and pleasant, nobody would have a problem with this.

        Patrick

        May 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM

      • Girls who are beautiful, but also sweet and pleasant, usually wind up in committed relationships and get married early, so you don’t find them in bars.

      • Of course there are unattractive women who are bitches, but who cares about them.

        Many attractive women come across as “entitled”, giving off a bitchy vibe, which is strongly felt by beta men, but the effects are lessened for alpha men.

        JS

        May 29, 2014 at 9:56 PM

      • Hot women become bitchy for a number of reasons, and Elliot is one of them. Too many beta chumps like him with advances they don’t want, and alpha jerks who come across as too eager.

        JS

        May 29, 2014 at 10:01 PM

      • Guys like Madonnas and whores. Madonnas almost always break their hearts (sweet girls do that) and social convention and mom takes the whores out of the picture. Nobody likes a bitch.

        Curle

        May 29, 2014 at 11:11 PM

  8. Elliot feared, and eventually, hated women because he simply could not understand them. His ineptitude in this regard was almost cartoonish, e.g. sitting on a park bench waiting for a cute single girl to approach him.

    “Nice guys finish last,” is a cliche because it’s a truism most people don’t want to believe.

    Elliot, having never harmed anyone in his life, was a gallant gentleman in his own eyes. What he doesn’t understand is that the high-minded concept of chivalry originated in a time when the abject brutilization of women was commonplace and expected. It was a sort of counterculture set against the time-honored beat’em & rape’em de rigueur of the day. And it only mattered because those practicing it — knights — were those most capable of brutalizing women. An intimidating, armored and mounted professional killer acting in a genteel manner towards a maiden he could otherwise violently defile is the stuff of romantic legend, and it set them apart as a class above the brutish peasant infantrymen.

    Because the context of constant fear of sexual subjugation no longer applies, “chivalry” is an anachronistic concept, and being a gentleman is in more looking the part and behaving otherwise, like the well-dressed and stately character of Christian Grey who enjoys whipping and inserting butt-plugs into women. Roissy would say this misdirection and unexpectedness is like crack to women. And it is.

    None of this knowledge ever permeated Rodgers’ brain, because he refused to believe it.

    Patrick

    May 29, 2014 at 11:41 AM

    • There is so much willful disinformation out there these days, telling guys to ‘just be themselves’ and everything will work out, rather than to work on their bodies, their minds, their skills to improve and become great Men (rather than boys or guys). This is what we get from that: young guys sincerely sitting on a park bench waiting for their soul-mate to saunter up. Insane.

      Sisyphean

      May 29, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    • Good point about the origin of the term gentleman.

      Dave Pinsen

      May 29, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    • he said he once sat outside a Domino’s pizza waiting for girls to come and worship him!!!

      He wasn’t a nice guy at all though. After the first three times you pour a coffee on a stranger you’ve never talked to because they were happy and you weren’t, you’ve probably ceased to become a nice guy.

      jordan

      May 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    • I thought the whole chivalry thing, to the extent it actually existed, was an invention of the French medieval court and was limited, almost exclusively, to the women of that court (and eventually other European courts) which means the female targets were, for the most part, the King’s sisters and cousins. In other words, women you couldn’t touch without the King’s permission or you’d face execution. It eventually turned into a plot device for bad poets and storytellers which is why Cervantes had such a field day mocking it in Don Quixote. But, no doubt I’ve erred somewhere with this and will be corrected.

      Curle

      May 29, 2014 at 11:20 PM

      • Maybe you’re thinking of courtly love.

        Glengarry

        May 31, 2014 at 10:59 AM

  9. “gentleman” is a term used by an identifiable clique of guys on reddit called “nice guys”. feminists hate them and say that they an entitlement mentality towards sex. basically nice guys are the male equivalent of chubby girls who whine about ‘body image’.

    James N.S.W

    May 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    • The one plus of this whole episode has been the hilarity of watching feminists accuse anybody of having an entitlement mentality.

      Curle

      May 29, 2014 at 11:22 PM

  10. Elliot should have grown some facial hair and tried to pass himself off as Middle Eastern/Persian.

    Brendan

    May 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    • What good would that do?

      asdasdasd

      May 29, 2014 at 2:12 PM

      • I think coeds would have been more receptive to swarthy Middle East type than a “try hard” Eurasian.

        Brendan

        May 29, 2014 at 4:06 PM

      • Arab and Persian men do better than most beta Asian men when it comes to women.

        It’s interesting in NYC, I actually came across a few Asian women who had a dating history with Middle Easterners. Conversely, Iranian gals dating Asian men seems like an impossible quest for utopia.

        JS

        May 29, 2014 at 4:12 PM

  11. If he had kept his English accent, he would have been popular and Monette would have had a crush on him.

    A Reader

    May 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    • No, he just would have been a weird shy nerdy kid with a funny accent (which would have been a cool accent if a good-looking athlete had it).

      • I wonder then if Peter Rodger was BSing his way through Hollywood with his looks, accent and ethnicity?

        A Reader

        May 29, 2014 at 3:12 PM

  12. I can’t relate to this freak on any level. Going on a killing spree because you’re not getting any sex? That’s the stupidest motive I’ve ever heard. Get a hobby. I could have spent my whole life as a virgin and it wouldn’t bother me a bit. There’s so much more to life, but the media & blogosphere brainwashes naive young men into equating their sex life with their self-esteem. It used to be very common for bright young men to delay sex until well after graduate school. It’s not like he’s some high testosterone brute who biologically craves it immediately. He could have waited another decade. He claims to be a gentleman. Gentlemen wait.

    pumpkinperson

    May 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    • “There’s so much more to life, but the media & blogosphere brainwashes naive young men into equating their sex life with their self-esteem.”

      Well said.

    • ” It used to be very common for bright young men to delay sex until well after graduate school.” —————————————————————

      I bet I’m older than you and I know of no such time. As my father, older than me surprisingly enough, used to say about the fifties; people were having sex a lot more than they let on. He even ventured that the total amount of sex hadn’t changed just people’s candor regarding it. I happen to think he’s wrong . . . but I wasn’t around in the fifties.

      There is considerable evidence that the American government suppressed the full extent of rape by American troops in Europe during WWII. Men have always pursued sex pretty aggressively. Even bright young men.

      Curle

      May 29, 2014 at 11:29 PM

      • Probably depends on time and place. I suspect large numbers of well meaning German, American and English middle class boys in the late 1890s-early 1900s believed the purity propaganda that both churches and weirdo “progressives” like Kellog were dishing out, and did delay sex much later than a modern youth would. Seems like WWI put an end to that for the most part.

        Peter Akuleyev

        May 30, 2014 at 1:42 AM

      • A word advice for single men in today’s society is to pump and dump or seek eff buddies at best, where sex is a main objective with post college women outside of work. I don’t know about the guys here, but dating for me was pretty much a waste of time after graduation. I have very little patience listening to most post college – single American White women and their empty drama. Now this could be a big city metro thing and NYC takes the take on that one.

        Finding a meaningful woman beyond sex after college requires a hefty tuition fee or a tedious PhD program – via cherry picking in graduate school. The chances are much slimmer if you are enrolled in a Law or MBA-Business school program, where women are validating their hypergamous tendencies.

        Low brow – online dating sites like Match.com should re-brand themselves as Match & Hook.com, since casual sex is the main objective for most men using that site like others, and women are just seeking an exchange of resources with this medium.

        JS

        May 30, 2014 at 10:04 AM

      • The way I’ve heard it is we have less sex these days, because of the relative lack of committed relationships. Even if our young women get banged in disgusting ways by a new hot guy every friday, that’s still just once a week.

        And old people are less ardent, so the marrieds have less sex too.

        Glengarry

        May 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM

  13. After watching his video, he clearly demonstrated persecution delusion. From my proffesional opinion, he has schizophrenia. Unfortunately, he should have been put into mental hospital.

    Long time ago, I had neighbor who always did damage to my property whenever I had female visitors. I simply moved away. Knowlage is power to save your life.

    IC

    May 29, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    • He also displayed grandiosity which is part of schizophrenia.

      IC

      May 29, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    • “Knowlage is power”

      Nice

      Walla_Walla_Sam

      May 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      • heh

        caroljm36

        May 29, 2014 at 4:53 PM

      • Yes, later my neighor was incarcerated in mental institute due to my report to authority. And he did have intention to do harm on people who he percerved hurting him (persecutory delusion). I might just have prevent another potential mass murder.

        IC

        May 30, 2014 at 8:43 AM

    • so you are a professional?

      he doesn’t have auditory hallucinations or disorganized thinking to be schizophrenic, Note, one does not need to have both symptoms; jared lee loughner had disorganized thinking (as seen with his “genoside school” but he did not have auditory hallucinations)

      Latias

      May 29, 2014 at 6:07 PM

  14. That he thought himself as a gentleman isn’t taken alone as proof by people that he may have had narcissistic personality disorder. Unless you’re talking about one specific person. How about claiming “I am magnificent.”

    How about “Becoming a multi-millionaire at a young age is what I am meant for.” How about dumping coffee over girls who did not know him at all because they didn’t acknowledge him while walking down a random street while he was wearing his new Armani shirt? People that are actually shy don’t go around dumping their drinks on people everytime they see someone that’s happy. His behavior is so Amy Bishopesque that his perceived shyness is almost irrelevant. If Rodger had 50 girlfriends, he would still have been a Lunatic.

    Do you sincerely believe that calling himself a gentleman is the thing that makes people think they have proof that he had narcissistic personality disorder?

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568
    From one random set of symptoms found online, the evidence for narcissistic personality disorder for rodger is:

    believing that you’re better than others
    fantasizing about power success and attractiveness
    expecting constant praise and admiration
    believing that you’re special and acting accordingly
    failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
    expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
    being jealous of others
    believing that others are jealous of you
    trouble keeping healthy relationships
    setting unrealistic goals
    being easily hurt and rejected
    having a fragile self-esteem

    and probably some of the other symptoms as well.

    jordan

    May 29, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    • There is lots of overlap between mental conditions.

      Everything we see from Elliot can simply be explained by extreme emotional immaturity, which is the same thing as having an extremely high Neoroticism personality trait.

      • I agree. I wonder if woody Allen had to scrap a script idea after this kids’ story came to light. He’s a classic hyper neurotic Woody Allen character, like the young male version of Blue Jasmine.

        Sisyphean

        May 29, 2014 at 4:01 PM

      • i’m not saying it’s 100% narcissistic personality disorder. I’m saying that there are reasons for people to think that it might be narcissistic personality disorder. And their “proof” isn’t simply that Rodger called himself a gentleman as you suggest in your post.

        jordan

        May 29, 2014 at 4:02 PM

      • There is a LOT of stuff in Elliot’s autobiography that just seems like extreme emotional immaturity. Really extreme. Like asking his mother to marry someone rich, throwing drinks at happy couples because he can’t stand looking at their happiness, dropping his college classes because there’s a happy couple in the class, foolishly insulting people who are trying to be nice to him, crying at an age when guys don’t cry.

        It all seems to me like him acting like a little child. It seems like extreme emotional immaturity, and not grandiosity or psychopathy or autism. He has no control over his negative emotions.

      • I’m not so sure I agree with Dr. Lion.

        How do we know that his medication helped him appear not be an Aspie? We don’t. He didn’t, at least always, take his medication. We know this. But he might have for a while, for example during times in which he wrote his autobiography, in which case it might have made him not come across as an Aspie–same goes for his interactions with others in Meatspace.

        Shawn

        May 29, 2014 at 6:40 PM

      • There is a LOT of stuff in Elliot’s autobiography that just seems like extreme emotional immaturity. Really extreme. Like asking his mother to marry someone rich, throwing drinks at happy couples because he can’t stand looking at their happiness, dropping his college classes because there’s a happy couple in the class, foolishly insulting people who are trying to be nice to him, crying at an age when guys don’t cry.

        Based on your description here, and in other posts, he sounds like a classic example of a high IQ/low EQ individual In fact in the book “Emotional Intelligence”, the author illustrated the concept by describing an academically brilliant student who “stupidly” wrecked his life by murdering his professor or something like that.

        However Jensen rejected the concept of emotional intelligence, explaining that low EQ was largely just high neuroticism, so it was a misnomer to refer to this trait as a type of “intelligence”.

        pumpkinperson

        May 29, 2014 at 7:45 PM

      • And some people call that immature behavior narcissistic behavior. It’s all very narcissistic. The obsession with status, the envy, rage, thoughts of being a God, not understand why someone else doesn’t feel the same way.

        nobody’s going around claiming that the only proof of his narcissistic personality disorder is that he called himself a gentleman.

        jordan

        May 30, 2014 at 12:16 AM

      • How do we know that his medication helped him appear not be an Aspie? We don’t. He didn’t, at least always, take his medication. We know this. But he might have for a while, for example during times in which he wrote his autobiography, in which case it might have made him not come across as an Aspie–same goes for his interactions with others in Meatspace.

        He made the correct decision by not taking risperidone. No, risperidone would not improve his personality or make him more approachable; in fact, it would likely give him a flatter affect.

        Latias

        May 30, 2014 at 8:54 AM

    • I have no doubt that “narcissistic personality disorder” is the leading diagnosis du jour.

      caroljm36

      May 29, 2014 at 4:54 PM

  15. 2 further examples of his excessive sheltering by his parents:

    1. His mother set up “play dates” for him at the age of 16.

    2. Los Angeles County is 48% Hispanic and 11% black. Another 27% of the population that is non-Hispanic white includes a lot of people from the class known on this blog as “proles.” To Rodger’s detriment, he never ventured out socially from his very narrow demographic group of upper-middle-class whites and Asians. Instead of trying to be Mr. Lebowski with a blond trophy wife; he should have been bowling with Walter and the Dude.

    Ava Lon

    May 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    • His only option was really associating with the race of women on his biological mother side.

      He could have gone after Hispanic woman because of his Eurasian mix (he could pass as a Mestizo Hispanic), but I’m thinking of the aftermath of such a relationship, as Mestizos in California have a certain disdain for their Asian neighbors, who are seen as overly zealous strivers with an unhealthy dose of material worship, when comparing to the easy going Hispanics.

      And black women are of course out of the question for most non-ghetto non-black men!

      JS

      May 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

      • Given his limitations he needed to write off women entirely and develop emotional bonds with animals (I’m not referring to anything sexual). It would, at least, have helped to normalize him, though never enough to make him boyfriend material. Just enough to keep him from becoming a complete basket case.

        Curle

        May 29, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    • I picked up on the word “play date” too, but I think the last time he used it was for a time when he was 12. Still, what 22-year-old man willingly uses that word for something he did at any age? If I were 22 and my mother was talking about “play dates” she had arranged for me when I was a five-year-old child, I’d still be embarrassed.

      Kyo

      May 29, 2014 at 5:57 PM

  16. Whatever adult was irresponsible enough to buy him a BMW should have used that money to help him develop a personality.

    Chelsea

    May 29, 2014 at 3:52 PM

  17. It would be one thing if girls often had called him a Nice Guy and then LJBF’ed him, but as far as we know that never happened, mainly because he never approached girls in the first place.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    May 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

  18. Can you comment on Ann Coulter’s theory that he had schizophrenia? That would explain a lot.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/29/dont-stigmatize-murderers/

    Hepp

    May 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    • He shows absolutely no signs of schizophrenia, which is not being able to distinguish real from unreal.

      • Coulter makes a good case for the opposite, and says that he was actually prescribes risperidone.

        Hepp

        May 29, 2014 at 7:57 PM

      • Coulter is the sort of popular blonde woman who hates, hates, hates beta-males, thus can’t muster the slightest ounce of sympathy for him, plus accusing him of schizophrenia furthers a political point she’s trying to make.

        I thought his autobiography was extremely well written given that until that point he had never done anything in his life which would lead anyone to believe he could write a 137 page book.

      • According to Radar Online, Ellliot was extremely paranoid and heard voices (schizophrenia). They claim to have been told this by an anonymous source close to the family. Don’t know how credible it is.

        pumpkinperson

        May 29, 2014 at 8:20 PM

      • An extremely suspicious story, with no source, and sounds self-serving. And possibly confusing “paranoia” with phobia.

      • I dunno. Saying stuff like “I am a God” and predicting that you’ll become a millionaire as a child when you don’t even have the ability to talk to another human being seems to show an inability to “distinguish real from unreal.”

        Hepp

        May 29, 2014 at 8:48 PM

      • Lion, what is the political point? Apparently she wants to stigmatize the mentally ill or blame gun violence on mentally ill people.

        At least a “political point” should be have more than a mere patina of intellectual thought behind and should withstand scrutiny from a moderately informed person, such as those who can know what the guidelines for a schizophrenia diagnosis are.

        Latias

        May 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM

  19. “Gentleman” sounds like a word that an Asian woman would use.

    Women say they want gentlemen and want their sons to be gentlemen. But most drop their drawers for rogues and scoundrels… not gentlemen.

    “In retrospect, it was very bad advice. In fact, someone like the blogger formerly known as Roissy would have identified that as bad advice even without any hindsight.”

    No doubt. It’s something naive, stupid parents tell their children. “Be nice”, “Play fair”, etc. No doubt it’s better to be nice and play fair than to be a malicious little azzhole. I tell my kids that when they’re in kinder. But at some point you need to stop telling your kids to be nice and play fair and that the tooth fairy is real and start telling them the truth about life. The truth is that bullies usually get away with it, nice guys finish last and if you don’t have enough sense to take your own side then no one else will.

    destructure

    May 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM

  20. Wrt the recent thread about class, colleges and sex, 21% of Harvard seniors are virgins, 15% gay. Also 42% have sought mental health counseling. http://m.bbc.com/news/education-27620096?ocid=socialflow_twitter

    dsgntd_plyr

    May 29, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    • Wow, 15%? That’s unbelievable.

      Renault

      May 30, 2014 at 5:05 PM

  21. As Karl Lagerfeld said…

    What I hate is nasty, ugly people… the worst is ugly, short men. Women can be short, but for men it is impossible. It is something that they will not forgive in life… they are mean and they want to kill you.

    Elliot was an ugly, short man and look at what happened.

    Logan Circle Dreaming

    May 29, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    • Elliot wasn’t ugly at all. And he was only slightly short (he was 5’9″, only an inch below the U.S. male mean)

      pumpkinperson

      May 29, 2014 at 11:38 PM

      • He was a late developer, so he was probably a LOT smaller than the other kids when he was younger, just as he says.

      • No way was that guy 5’9. He was more like 5’7 tops.

        JS

        May 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM

      • Californians on average seem to be shorter than their Northeast Counterparts. White men in the Golden State are usually smaller and shorter than ones here in the Northeast. The East Asians in California are just beyond short.

        JS

        May 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM

      • In the stats he listed on the bodybuilding website he commented on, he listed himself as 5’9″. Given how open he’s been about his insecurities, it seems odd he would lie, but you never know. He could be mistaken too or measuring with shoes on.

        pumpkinperson

        May 31, 2014 at 12:33 PM

  22. Some of your stuff is insightful but this is pure crap. Gentleman is a word that has significance in the World of Warcraft alternate reality. Do some research.

    Joe Sixpack

    May 29, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    • I played World of Warcraft for a few weeks, but don’t remember the word “gentleman” being significant.

      • It isn’t.

        Renault

        May 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    • yeah. “do some research” into world of warcraft. ROTFL.

      jorge videla

      May 29, 2014 at 9:05 PM

  23. the european gentleman wasn’t a sissy. this is an american interpretation.

    he was expected to be good at sports and war and merciless to cads.

    “waterloo was won on the playing fields of eton.”

    jorge videla

    May 29, 2014 at 8:08 PM

  24. Why did Eliot think he was a gentleman?

    For starters, he was probably well behaved and deferential.

    Rotten

    May 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM

  25. There also a music video called “psy gentlemen” for what it’s worth…

    nevertoolate

    May 30, 2014 at 11:04 PM


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