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Huckabee 2016

Billionaire Sheldon Adelson will present to Mike Huckabee the “Adelson Defender of Israel Award” later this month. This will surely be a big boost to Huckabee’s campaign, perhaps not so much for the award but because the implication is that he will receive financial backing from Adelson.

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I am getting used to the idea of President Huckabee and I think I am rooting for him over Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM

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  1. God save us from both of these reprobates.

    peterike2

    November 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM

  2. Hust another reason to hate Mike Hucksbee. I would rather have Hillary than Huckabee.

    AsianDude

    November 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM

  3. Southern Evangelical Republicans are the pro-Israel shock troops in Congress. If you are pro-Israel it always makes sense to promote those Southern Evangelicals who are philo-Semitic. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/07/AR2006010701267_pf.html

    Curle

    November 11, 2014 at 12:58 PM

  4. And clever guys like Adelson know that nothing motivates a goofy Promise Keeper compassionate conservative like having his white-knightiness recognized.

    Fiddlesticks

    November 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM

  5. Anti-immigration third party when?

    The republicans are sellouts.

    jjbees

    November 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM

  6. OT but this article touches on many LOTB themes:

    http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/london-taxi-test-knowledge/?_r=0

    “Knowledge workers” vs automation?

    IBC

    November 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

  7. Adelson was a life-long Democrat who only “switched” to the GOP a few years ago. Far be it from me to criticize a Jewish person for making that switch. However, he did so after a falling out with Dems over unions. Apparently, he doesn’t want his casino workers unionized. So he switched parties and gave millions of dollars to the GOP to fight the unions. Fair enough. But he also pushed for open borders. No doubt for cheaper workers. Combine this with his hawkish views regarding Israel and the image becomes a “greedy Jew” pushing open borders and putting Israel above America. He’s a walking, talking stereotype. In his case, I’m afraid the stereotype might be true. EVERYONE whether Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, jewish or gentile should want him to crawl back under his rock. All he will do is provoke unpleasantness.

    destructure

    November 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    • Cue an attack on me from TUJ in… 3.. 2.. 1..

      destructure

      November 11, 2014 at 1:41 PM

      • for a self-professed and professional Evangelical Christian to accept an award from a casino magnate is ridiculous enough. that Adelson is Jewish is the cherry on top.

        Robert Gabriel Mugabe

        November 11, 2014 at 9:25 PM

    • The best thing we could do is legalize national internet gaming and sports books.

      uatu

      November 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM

      • Unsurprisingly, he’s the biggest donor to anti online poker causes.

        Cetu

        November 11, 2014 at 4:49 PM

      • what – legalize freedom?!?

        right on. i think we should err on the side of legalizing too many things, rather than the overly careful nanny approach. but the latter requires lawmakers to keep making laws & therefore keeps the way-too-many politicians in work.

        panjoomby

        November 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    • sounds like a neo liberal like thomas friedman . They have a lot of similarities with neo cons

      grey enlightenment

      November 11, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    • The appropriate position for anyone to take would be to want the borders closed and for Israel to be supported. Protect your culture and help the good guys.

      Of course Jew-haters can’t see Israel as being part of the good guys.

      Perturabo

      November 11, 2014 at 7:59 PM

      • Since you replied to me…

        “The appropriate position for anyone to take would be to want the borders closed and for Israel to be supported. Protect your culture and help the good guys.”

        Agreed. I’m a mild supporter of Israel. Interestingly, when I say that I’m frequently harangued by Jews demanding to know why I only mildly support Israel. Apparently, nothing short of unconditional, fanatical, foaming at the mouth fealty is sufficient. I’m a mild supporter because I’m slightly prejudiced in favor of Jews in spite of the best efforts on the part of some Jews to convince me not to be. Though I’m not sure there are many “good guys” in the middle east. Or anywhere else for that matter.

        “Of course Jew-haters can’t see Israel as being part of the good guys.”

        It’s asinine to accuse anyone who says something you disagree with of being a “Jew-hater”. In my opinion, there’s more ill feelings from Jews towards gentiles than the reverse. Not that it’s a pissing contest. I’d rather there were less on both sides.

        destructure

        November 12, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    • Cue an attack on me from TUJ in… 3.. 2.. 1

      We can just stick to the facts:

      1) Adelson is being a hypocrite but not any more so than Pelosi and Guiliani are for not supporting open borders for Italy; Ted Kennedy, Congressman Peter ‘IRA” King, Tom Donahue, Bob “There shall be open borders” Bartley, and amnesty lobbyist Ed Gillespie not supporting open borders for Ireland; or Karl Rove and Grover Norquist for not supporting open borders to Scandinavia.

      Have you ever claimed other pro-amnesty white Americans are hypocrites for not supporting open borders to their ancestral land? If not, why not?

      2) Only a small minority of the most fervent pro-Israel Americans are pro-amnesty. The vast majority of Jewish Zionists, including neoconservatives oppose it. Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Diana West, Bill Kristol, David Frum, Charles Krauthammer, The Lion, the late Larry Auster, all oppose amnesty.

      3) Adelson isn’t even reflective of the Jewish electorate generally much less the most Zionist and conservative segment: American Jews generally poll in favor of less immigration.

      http://cis.org/ReligionAndImmigrationPoll

      In contrast to many religious leaders, most members think immigration is too high.

      Jews: 50 percent said it is too high; 5 percent said is too low; 22 percent just right.

      http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/12/2741253/poll-jewish-support-for-obama-falling

      The survey asked its Jewish respondents: “A new law in Arizona gives police the power to ask people they’ve stopped to verify their residency status. Supporters say this will help crack down on illegal immigration. Opponents say it could violate civil rights and lead to racial profiling. On balance, do you support or oppose this law?”

      4) The main documentation in support of the “Jewish open borders” stereotype comes from Kevin MacDonald.

      Unfortunately for his amen corner, he’s a liar who made up evidence that doesn’t exist in his own sources as evidence for his thesis about the history of Jewish immigration lobbying. His sources often say the exact opposite of what he claimed:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald#Academic_reception

      MacDonald has particularly been accused by other academics of academic fraud, saying that he has promoted anti-Semitic propaganda under the guise of what he says is a legitimate and academic search for truth.[27] He has also been accused of misrepresenting the sources he uses in that regard. Fenris State University professor Dr. Barry Mehler cited for example a quote from a 1969 dissertation by Sheldon Morris Neuringer titled American Jewry and United States immigration policy, 1881-1953 where MacDonald surmised that when Neuringer noted Jewish opposition in 1921 and 1924 to the anti-immigration legislation at the time was due more to it having the “taint of discrimination and anti-Semitism” as opposed to how it would limit Jewish immigration, MacDonald wrote, “…Jewish opposition to the 1921 and 1924 legislation was motivated less by a desire for higher levels of Jewish immigration than by opposition to the implicit theory that America should be dominated by individuals with northern and western European ancestry.” “It seems to me Mr. MacDonald is misrepresenting Mr. Neuringer in this case and I posted my query hoping that a historian familiar with the literature might have a judgment on MacDonald’s use of the historical data,” Mehler wrote, citing other examples.[28]

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 11, 2014 at 9:14 PM

      • “Have you ever claimed other pro-amnesty white Americans are hypocrites for not supporting open borders to their ancestral land? If not, why not?”

        Possibly because Italy, Ireland and Scandinavia already effectively HAVE open borders, and those nations are being overrun by third-world riff raff. Nobody needs to promote open borders for nations already busily committing suicide. And they certainly aren’t supporting CLOSED borders for those nations, are they? Only Israel (and of course EVERY non-white nation) gets to have strict border policies without being condemned by The Narrative for it.

        “American Jews generally poll in favor of less immigration.”

        So what? There are plenty of prole Jews who have prole interests. They don’t matter. What matters are the Jews who are billionaires or people in influential media, academic or government positions. Other than a handful of explicitly conservative Jewish pundits, the vast majority of “influential” Jews are in lock step with the Progressive Agenda (open borders, anti-racism, all gay all the time, etc). Then again, so are the majority of “influential” Gentiles. The issue is that the level of influence among Jews is fantastically disproportionate to their numbers, so a relatively tiny band of influencers is effectively pushing an agenda on the American nation that it doesn’t want.

        peterike2

        November 12, 2014 at 8:56 AM

      • Billionaire Jews are not pushing a Jewish agenda, they are pushing a liberal billionaire agenda that is shared with gentile billionaires and is at odds with traditional Jewish values.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 12, 2014 at 10:24 AM

      • Jews are more proportionally liberal, regardless of their class. They tend to vote Democrat similar to Asians, because both of these groups believe welfare is like icing on the cake, as opposed to NAMs who heavily depend on it, because they don’t understand the loopholes and are too lazy too work productively.

        JS

        November 12, 2014 at 1:30 PM

      • Hasidic Jews might vote Republican because they dislike blacks. But remember, Hasidics are big welfare recipients. Either they don’t understand the ramifications for voting Republican (because NY is mostly a Democratic state that gives free money like candies) or they’re voting to make a statement.

        JS

        November 12, 2014 at 1:33 PM

      • Your link says that Jews are much more pro-immigration than Catholics and Protestants, altho not as pro-immigrant and their Jewish leaders. You have a long rant against MacDonald’s interpretation of a survey on authoritarianism, but that is not relevant. Where are the anti-immigrant Jews?

        George

        November 12, 2014 at 2:17 PM

      • The Undiscovered Jew — We can just stick to the facts:

        I’d prefer if you just stuck to the topic. My comment was specifically about Adelson. Of course, you’re free to say whatever you like. But I think you should tone down the neuroticism a bit on things relating to Jewry. Not that I’m one to criticize. I tend to be a little neurotic myself. Don’t take my criticism personally. I actually like and agree with you most of the time. But chillax, bro. You don’t want to be this guy.

        (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaPBhxXhprg)

        destructure

        November 12, 2014 at 4:01 PM

      • The Undiscovered Jew,

        Not a friend or enemy of MacDonald either way but the following quote is just an opinion. Dr. Barry Mehler thought that MacDonald was misinterpreting the historical data, not that he actually was misinterpreting. Mere skepticism of MacDonald’s conclusion is not a fabrication of evidence.

        “…Jewish opposition to the 1921 and 1924 legislation was motivated less by a desire for higher levels of Jewish immigration than by opposition to the implicit theory that America should be dominated by individuals with northern and western European ancestry.” “It seems to me Mr. MacDonald is misrepresenting Mr. Neuringer in this case and I posted my query hoping that a historian familiar with the literature might have a judgment on MacDonald’s use of the historical data,” Mehler wrote, citing other examples.[28]

        map

        November 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM

      • Possibly because Italy, Ireland and Scandinavia already effectively HAVE open borders, and those nations are being overrun by third-world riff raff. Nobody needs to promote open borders for nations already busily committing suicide.

        Fair enough about Scandinavia but not true of Ireland and Italy. Both Italy and Ireland are ~95% European. Ireland was basically 100% white until the 1990s, but I never heard of open borders Irish American elites calling for open borders to Ireland before or after. A few years ago Italy’s Liga Nord – which was in coalition with Berlusconi – called for sinking African ‘refugee’ boats but there was no criticism from Pelosi or Giuliani and no charges of hypocrisy for them saying nothing.

        Spain had a program to pay immigrants a few thousand euros to leave, ethnically Spaniard Cuban Americans like Rubio, Mario Diaz Ballart were silent, and of accusations of Cuban American hypocrisy by antisemites.

        Have any pro-amnesty Cuban American elites demanded Spain take down around Ceuta?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta_border_fence

        The Ceuta border fence is a border barrier between Morocco and Spain at Ceuta, a city in the North African coast. Constructed by Spain, its purpose is to stop illegal immigration and smuggling. Morocco objected to the construction of the barrier since it does not recognize Spanish sovereignty in Ceuta.

        The fence consists of parallel 6-metre (20-foot)[1] fences topped with barbed wire, with regular watchposts and a road running between them to accommodate police patrols or ambulance service in case of need. Underground cables connect spotlights, noise and movement sensors, and video cameras to a central control booth; dozens of Guard ships and patrol boats check the coast, while 621 Guardia Civil officers and 548 police officers control the shore.[2]

        Greece’s PM Samaras cracked down on illegal immigrants, not a peep from Olympia Snowe.

        And they certainly aren’t supporting CLOSED borders for those nations, are they? Only Israel (and of course EVERY non-white nation) gets to have strict border policies without being condemned by The Narrative for it.

        Your might have a point if you don’t count being condemned constantly for not ceding more of their borders, often by liberal Jews, to homicidal Muslims.

        The return of Sinai, pressure to dismantle West Bank settlements, enduring decades of suicide terror attacks before fencing off the West Bank only recently, negotiations to give up the Golan Heights, Divide Jerusalem, withdraw from the Gaza strip, is the very epitome of strict border control.

        Ignoring diplomacy, Israel debatably still has weaker immigration controls than Ireland, Italy, Spain or Greece.

        Israel was pressured by liberal Jews to not deport African illegal immigrants and to admit worthless Ethiopian blacks. They import ethnic Russians with the faintest trace of Ashkenazi ancestry as well as other non-Ashkenazi ethnic groups.

        As an ethno state, Israel falls far short with 50% of Israeli Jews not being European. Religiously bigoted, yes (non-Ashkenazi immigrants have to pretend to have some Jewish religious origin), but not racial favoritism.

        The issue is that the level of influence among Jews is fantastically disproportionate to their numbers, so a relatively tiny band of influencers is effectively pushing an agenda on the American nation that it doesn’t want.

        Elite gentile influencers – who are the majority of elite American elite liberals – want the same thing and be importing immigrants without any help from Jewish elites.

        Average Jews also don’t want immigration. They’re hardly being helped by their elite anymore than Anglo and German Americans are being helped by George and Jeb Bush, or the Koch brothers and Google’s Eric Schmidt.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 12, 2014 at 7:11 PM

      • Your link says that Jews are much more pro-immigration than Catholics and Protestants,

        Don’t try moving the goal posts. Antisemites have said for years a majority of Jews want more immigration. Which as usual was a lie.

        Never did they say “a smaller majority of Jews want less immigration than gentiles” unless the lie is directly challenged with evidence.

        Where are the anti-immigrant Jews?

        Where are the anti-immigration gentile elites?

        As for outer party Jews, they include Mark Levin, Matt Drudge, Mickey Kaus, the late Larry Auster, Diana West, David Frum, Bill Kristol, Michael Savage, Orthodox Jewish Breitbart.com editors Ben Shapiro and Joel Pollak.

        You have a long rant against MacDonald’s interpretation of a survey on authoritarianism, but that is not relevant.

        It is relevant because it’s more proof he’s a liar and suggest his interpretation of Jewish immigration lobbying (which is usually the evidence antisemites have) might also be lies.

        On the authoritarianism study, how is this anything except a lie – MacDonald used a study as proof Jews were more ethnocentric than other groups on a measure of ethnocentrism (authoritarianism) when direct quotes from the study show both normal and religious Jews were tied with Anglicans and Unitarians for least authoritarian:

        Click to access lieberman.jewsRaceEmpire.pdf

        Kevin MacDonald:

        Altemeyer (1988, 2) defines “right-wing authoritarianism” as involving three central attributes: submission to legitimate authority; aggression toward individuals that is sanctioned by the authorities; adherence to social conventions. Clearly, individuals high on these traits would be ideal members of cohesive human group evolutionary strategies. Indeed, such attributes would define the ideal Jew in traditional societies: submissive to the kehilla authorities, strongly adherent to within – group social conventions such as the observance of Jewish religious law, and characterized by negative attitudes toward gentile society and culture seen as manifestations of an outgroup. Consistent with this formulation, high scorers on the Right-Wing Authoritarianism Scale (RWA) tend to be highly religious; they tend to be the most orthodox members of their denomination; they believe in group cohesiveness, group loyalty, and identify strongly with ingroups (Altemeyer 1994, 134; 1996, 84). Without question, traditional Jewish society and contemporary Jewish Orthodox and fundamentalist groups are highly authoritarian by any measure. Indeed, Rubenstein (1996) found that Orthodox Jews were higher on RWA than “traditional Jews,” and both of these groups were higher than secular Jews.59

        The real study:

        [A]re “very accepting” subjects equally authoritarian in all religions? Or do different denominations (as argued earlier) produce different levels of authoritarianism even among the strongly committed? If we examine just those subjects who answered the (0-5) “still accept” question with either a “4” or a “5” (that is, they indicated they “nearly completely” or “completely” accepted the religious beliefs taught them in childhood), who do you think were the most authoritarian of all these “true believers”? Fundamentalists (185.1) and Mennonites (185.3) among the students, Mennonites (202.1) and Fundamentalists (208.5) among the parents. The (rarer) United Church members, Anglicans, and Jews who were just as accepting of their religions scored about 25 points lower. True-believing Catholics and Lutherans lay somewhere in between. 61

        So not only are Jews among the least authoritarian of religious groups, according to Altemeyer highly religious Jews are among the least authoritarian of the highly religious.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM

      • Not a friend or enemy of MacDonald either way but the following quote is just an opinion. Dr. Barry Mehler thought that MacDonald was misinterpreting the historical data, not that he actually was misinterpreting. Mere skepticism of MacDonald’s conclusion is not a fabrication of evidence.

        That’s not the only evidence he falsifies evidence, and might not be the only time he distorted Neuringer’s paper.

        At a minimum, his work needs to be cross checked with the original sources he used if his arguments are going to be used by antisemites, work which American antisemitism so wisely based their credibility on:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald#Academic_reception

        Lieberman has also written that MacDonald even dishonestly made up lines from the work of British Holocaust denier David Irving. Citing Irving’s Uprising which was published in 1981 for the twenty-fifth anniversary of Hungary’s failed anti-Communist revolution in 1956, MacDonald asserted in the Culture of Critique, “The domination of the Hungarian communist Jewish bureaucracy thus appears to have had overtones of sexual and reproductive domination of gentiles in which Jewish males were able to have disproportionate sexual access to gentile females.” Lieberman, who also noted that MacDonald is not a historian, debunked those assertions, concluding, “(T)he passage offers not a shred of evidence that, as MacDonald would have it, “Jewish males enjoyed disproportionate sexual access to gentile females.”[31]

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 12, 2014 at 7:42 PM

      • My comment was specifically about Adelson.

        I agreed with you he’s a hypocrite.

        Leaving aside your comment, however, I do think it’s high time antisemites explain certain questions about MacDonald’s honesty since his thesis is the foundation of antisemitic thinking.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM

      • “I do think it’s high time antisemites explain certain questions about MacDonald’s honesty since his thesis is the foundation of antisemitic thinking.”

        Maybe so. I’ve never read anything by him. I doubt anyone else here has either. But I suspect he believes what he says just as much as you do. I also think Jews who obsess over “nazis” are the opposite side of the same coin.

        destructure

        November 12, 2014 at 10:44 PM

      • George –

        Explain how MacDonald arguing Jews scored very high on a measure of ethnocentrism when the actual study results, quoted copied verbatim, had Jews tying Anglicans and Unitarians for least?

        If antisemites are such lying pussies they can’t answer simple questions then it’s time for them to give up.

        Where was Pat Buchanan’s condemnation of elite Cuban Americans for not protesting Spain’s Morocco border fence at Cueta?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 14, 2014 at 12:13 AM

    • MacDonald – who is the originator of the false stereotype Jews are favor of immigration – also lied outright about a survey he used to indicate Jews were more ethnocentric than gentiles on a meausre of ethnocentrism, authoritarianism.

      The actual study showed Jews tied Anglicans and Unitarian WASPs for being least ethnocentric.

      But Jews are supposed to believe antisemites, and paleoconservatives are arguing in good faith when it comes to immigration and Jews when they’ve been lying about the evidence since Culture of Critique was released:

      Click to access lieberman.jewsRaceEmpire.pdf

      Even worse, from MacDonald‟s perspective, was the richer data on religious affiliation , orthodoxy and authoritarianism presented by Altemeyer in Enemies of Freedom, a volume MacDonald also cites. Even within the set of High RWA “true believers” characteristic of all religions (but underrepresented among Jews by comparison with other religions), clear differences among the groups emerge.

      [A]re “very accepting” subjects equally authoritarian in all religions? Or do different denominations (as argued earlier) produce different levels of authoritarianism even among the strongly committed? If we examine just those subjects who answered the (0-5) “still accept” question with either a “4” or a “5” (that is, they indicated they “nearly completely” or “completely” accepted the religious beliefs taught them in childhood), who do you think were the most authoritarian of all these “true believers”? Fundamentalists (185.1) and Mennonites (185.3) among the students, Mennonites (202.1) and Fundamentalists (208.5) among the parents. The (rarer) United Church members, Anglicans, and Jews who were just as accepting of their religions scored about 25 points lower. True-believing Catholics and Lutherans lay somewhere in between. 61

      So not only are Jews among the least authoritarian of religious groups, according to Altemeyer highly religious Jews are among the least authoritarian of the highly religious. Yet in an awe-inspiring display of sheer gall (dare I say,„chutzpah‟?), MacDonald takes information Altemeyer has collected from studies of subjects explicitly identified as “White North Americans” and applies it willy-nilly to the Jews whom Altemeyer, working from actual data rather than his own „suppositions,‟ largely exempts from the discussion. The point is worth emphasizing: these highly ethnocentric, highly authoritarian, highly self-deceptive “people who are highly attracted to cohesive groups,” as MacDonald so guardedly puts it, whom MacDonaldadduces as evidence for the self-deceptive tendencies of Jewish “hyper-collectivism,” were in fact members of MacDonald‟s own ethnic group.

      I can think of no other way to describe this conduct than as an act of deliberate fraud.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM

    • If Jews are going to be accused of opening America’s borders, it’s incumbent on the accusers to provide direct quotes from MacDonald’s own documentation to validate the allegations since it appears he’s fabricated evidence for it, as well as the rest of CofC.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 11, 2014 at 9:24 PM

  8. I think it is a consolation prize, as well as a hush-up, for Huckabee so he would stay in Arkansas and try to harass Hillary and not mess up Adelson’s plans.

    toos is god

    November 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM

  9. Most swing voters, especially in the Midwest and Northeast, don’t relate to the Huckabee-Palin style of Christianity, which only became a major social movement in the 70s. Republicans need that group but they also need secular and non-evangelical working-class and middle-class white voters who will vote Hillary over Huckabee.

    McFly

    November 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    • To Huckabee’s credit, he comes of as non-threatening, like a kindly grandfather and not some angry religious nut.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 11, 2014 at 2:05 PM

      • True. But he also comes across to people as simple-minded. Is America ready for a former minister turned politician? It may be asking too much for secular conservatives to vote for a former minister. And Huckabee is not so conservative economically. Didn’t the Democrats relish the thought of him being the nominee nicknaming him “the glass jaw” because they thought he’d be easy to defeat? I’d rather we nominate Scott Walker.

        Maryk

        November 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM

      • Huckabee is a religious nut in the sense that any religionist is a nut. That being said, the vast majority of the electorate are some variety of religious nut as well as every president we have had including the current one and every candidate on the horizon.

        not too late

        November 11, 2014 at 4:12 PM

      • @MaryK: Can you think of Lion voting for non-college grad scott walker?

        uatu

        November 11, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      • Yeah, but if he’s the nominee you won’t recognize him by the time the MSM is through with him. They’ll be all over Arkansas digging up any bit of hypocrisy or dirt they can on him, he’ll be accused of having run some kind of weirdo cult complete with snake handling, speaking in tongues, and god-only-knows-what. There will be stories that are reported as “some say (fill in the blank)…” which is one of the MSM’s favorite tactics for sliming a candidate without having to substantiate the charges or expose themselves to legal trouble.

        Look, I would not vote for the guy; he’s terrible on immigration, he’s too overtly religious for my taste, and I catch a whiff of sanctimoniousness that I find off-putting. I think his presidency would be a combination of the worst tendencies of Bush 43, Obama, and Jimmy Carter.

        Speaking of sanctimonious, for those who think Hillary would be OK because Bill would be there too, forget it. She will make damn sure that his role is strictly ceremonial and that he is kept away from any of the decision making.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        November 11, 2014 at 5:57 PM

      • I’d rather we nominate Scott Walker.

        Walker would be the perfect candidate if only he’d flip on immigration, the one issue where he can be attacked from his right. If he went restrictionist the nomination is his.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 11, 2014 at 9:44 PM

    • Palin is at least a real conservative. Huckabee is a liberal who joined the GOP because it is the Jesus party. He would lead the party in exactly the wrong direction.

      BehindTheLines

      November 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    • “which only became a major social movement in the 70s.” ————————————— Ever hear of the Second Great Awakening? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Great_Awakening

      Curle

      November 11, 2014 at 10:24 PM

  10. You always pick up the worst candidates: McCain, Romney, now Huckabee. I bet you endorsed Bob Dole back in pre-internet days, Lion.

    BB753

    November 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    • I didn’t pick Huckabee, I predicted he would win the nomination.

      Romney, now he was the best guy the Republicans have run in a long time.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM

      • I have a prediction as well. If Huckabee wins the nomination, I predict I won’t vote for him.

        destructure

        November 11, 2014 at 6:22 PM

      • you’ll write-in Satan.

        Robert Gabriel Mugabe

        November 11, 2014 at 9:30 PM

      • “you’ll write-in Satan.”

        Maybe. What’s his position on immigration?

        destructure

        November 12, 2014 at 5:20 PM

      • Romney? Romney? I could not figure out what he stood for. I mean, the guy is a mormon! He told the interviewer that he went on a missionary assignment to France to figure out what he really believed in! This guy was roping people into a cult without even believing in it himself?! This is the best candidate for the president?

        Yakov

        November 12, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    • Do you think Dole would have gone with neocon thinking on foreign adventurism as GWB did?

      dago red

      November 11, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    • @destructure – Huckabee isn’t winning anything. He has zero chance of getting the nomination.

      Also, I agree w/most of what you said upstairs about Adelson, Jews, etc., – and I’m Jewish.

      The answer to the Adelson problem is to change campaign finance laws.

      GG

      November 16, 2014 at 4:42 PM

  11. I really, really, don’t think of Huckabee as a serious contender. Outside of religious circles, he has almost no appeal.

    SWPL2

    November 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

    • I think you are right. People just do not vote actual reasoned criteria. They vote feelings. On reasonable criteria, Huckabee is probably okay and infinitely better than Mrs. Clinton or Obama has been. He was a governor and was competent. Arkansas is not mega prosperous like New York yet he got the finances in order etc and got republicans to work with the dem majority in the legislature. But those are irrelevant to those who are eat up with fear and loathing of religionists.

      not too late

      November 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM

  12. Huckabee has disqualified himself from serious consideration for President with his pro-FairTax position. Anyone willing to bet the world’s economy on a completely untested tax scheme in order to obtain political advantage is someone I’ll stay well clear of, thank you very much. Now, if he proposed trying it out in Haiti first, I’m all ears…

    Arthur Willingham, Jr.

    November 11, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    • I agree with this, the Fairtax is pretty bad idea. I hope he drops that.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

      • The problem with consumption taxes is that in a political system like ours, what we’d get is not either/or, but both. We might initially get a lowering of income tax rates to go with the consumption tax, but you can bet that sooner or later both rates would rise and we’d end up with both a 40% top marginal tax rate AND a 25% consumption tax, plus all the various state and local income taxes, property taxes, etc. etc. Some day, we’re going to end up with so many different taxes on the books that we’ll be like Italy, where all the various statutory taxes, if collected, would exceed GDP by a wide margin.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        November 11, 2014 at 8:40 PM

      • The trouble with all tax schemes, fair or otherwise, is that our real problem is spending, not taxes. If we capped spending, you’d see a tax system that maximized economic growth immediately.

        J1

        November 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    • I agree with this, the FairTax is pretty bad idea. I hope he drops that.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM

  13. That’s all we need, another candidate to do AIPAC’s bidding.

    Realist

    November 11, 2014 at 8:26 PM

  14. He pardoned someone who murdered four people. He’s done as a presidential candidate.

    Jack

    November 11, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    • Yep. I was waiting for someone to mention this, except the headlines won’t say “pardoned someone who committed multiple-homicide,” but “Huckabee Pardoned Cop-killer.”

      Vince, the Lionhearted

      November 11, 2014 at 11:09 PM

  15. Southern Evangelical Republicans are the pro-Israel shock troops in Congress. If you are pro-Israel it always makes sense to promote those Southern Evangelicals who are philo-Semitic.

    Having grown up in the Deep South I can endorse the veracity of this statement 100%.

    My next door neighbors growing up (fantastic neighbors, BTW) are deep Southern Baptists where their last two generations (10+ children) have all attended Bob Jones University. The women of their family do not wear pants or skirts (wearing hoop-like culottes instead) and they believe that both cigarettes and alcohol are inherently sinful.

    They absolutely love, love, love Israel with an absolute passion, sending care packages there and donating huge amounts $$ to various pro-Israel charities. I’m pretty sure that no one in the family has ever been North of Richmond or even met a real live Jew, there’s extremely few of them in small cities in the South.

    Camlost

    November 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM

  16. Lion is OK with Huckabee because he doesn’t have too much of a pronounced Southern accent like Herman Cain.

    If Huckabee sounded like Howell Heflin we all know that Lion would hate, hate, hate him as a candidate regardless of his platform.

    Camlost

    November 11, 2014 at 8:57 PM

    • Yeah, well, Herman Cain does not speak with a Southron accent. He tends more toward black speech with a touch of Ebonics. I grew up in the South and in no way is white Southern speech remotely similar to black speech, which I can easily pick out in any context.

      DiverCity

      November 11, 2014 at 11:26 PM

      • Yes, it’s a black southern accent.

        Camlost

        November 12, 2014 at 12:21 AM

    • I’d vote Herman Cain before I’d vote Huckabee. I like Herman Cain.

      destructure

      November 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

  17. Hucakbee (Suckabee?) is just another self serving opportunist who happens to warp himself in a Jesus flag. I am forever disgusted with this put down of Ron Paul. Nothing pro-American about Suckabee and despise his support of Israel.

    sth_txs

    November 12, 2014 at 8:02 AM

    • “Suckabee?”

      I much prefer “Schmuckabee.”

      peterike2

      November 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM

      • Or F*ckabee, which is an appropriate name for the legions of bureaucrat-wannabe muckups, who want to get into office, and those already in office who will swarm at any opportunity arises, that will garner more of their support and votes.

        JS

        November 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM

  18. There’s no way Huckabee can disavow his sanctimonious white-knuttery on immigration. After all, he made into a pseudoreligious crusade. How do you backpedal from that?

    “I feel the Lord, frankly, has given us a second chance to do better than we did before.”

    So typical of the proselytizing wing of the SoCons. I grew up in this. No frame control, everyone else is The Prize, try hard, please like me! (As your new “friends” slowly back away)

    http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/huckabee-immigrants-friend/Content?oid=863746

    Fiddlesticks

    November 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM

  19. Huckabee and Hillarious in 2016?

    Everyone loses. Vote libertardian and/or move to Canada.

    phone call from outer space

    November 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM

  20. Huckabee’s a social-conservative candidate whose main appeal is to the Republican older and religious prole-white base. I don’t think he’d stand a chance in a general election. And I’m pretty sure that his evolution-denying, stem-cell-research-opposing, Roe-v.-Wade-repealing, civil-union-rejecting fuddy-duddy persona is quite repellent to the Republican Party’s elite and its mega-rich donors. Old Sheldon claim he’s “basically a social liberal”, as you might expect for a rich Jew. His Republicanism seems to be mostly about Israel and fiscal conservatism.

    So I don’t think he’s going to secure their support, and if he did he looks like a terrible candidate for a general election.

    Ivan

    November 13, 2014 at 12:07 AM

  21. Due to his marriage to Mestizo, Jeb Bush is an implicit immigration sellout. He can’t be trusted.

    Mike

    November 20, 2014 at 10:48 PM


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