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Still no trace of the missing airplane. Was it the Black Hand?

Unlike the last plane which disappeared during good weather, this plane disappeared in an area in which there were thunderstorms. But suppose that the entity that made the previous plane disappear is also behind this disappearance, and they wanted to create a more plausible explanation for the plane disappearing? It makes good sense to use the thunderstorms as cover.

If the plane simply crashed, it should have crashed in a relatively small area and something should have been found by now.

On December 15th, a Chinese blogger predicted that a shadowy organization called the Black Hand was behind MH370 and MH17, and they would target AirAsia next.

More information here. The Chinese guy posted numerous times between December 15 and 17 warning people not to fly on AirAsia and then he disappeared.

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Even though Air France 447 crashed in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, the first wreckage was spotted floating in the water only 37 hours later. It has now been 46 hours since the crash (as of 4:19 PM Eastern Standard Time) and no wreckage has been found, even though Flight 8501 is supposed to have crashed in a more easily searchable area and with a more definitely known position. Sunrise is approaching in the Sea of Java. If nothing is found today, then there’s something more mysterious going on than a simple plane crash.

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From a Wall Street Journal article:

One of the most pressing questions for searchers and investigators now is why signals haven’t been detected from multiple emergency beacons on the Airbus A320. The beacons, known as emergency locator transmitters, or ELTs, are made to emit signals to satellites upon crashing and last about 30 days.

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Beacon signals are often located within hours of crashes. If the plane is on land or in the shallow waters of the Java Sea or Karimata Strait, a region that borders some of the world’s largest islands and where depths are mostly less than 50 meters, the signal should be strong, experts said.

“It’s very unlikely [for satellites, search aircraft and ships] to miss ELT signals, especially if the aircraft ended in relatively shallow waters,” said Mark Martin, chief executive at Martin Consulting, an aviation consultancy.

The plane should have been found yesterday if it crashed shortly after contact was lost. This is playing out just like MH370. They searched and searched and then days later it was mysteriously discovered that the plane didn’t actually crash but had kept on flying to some other unknown location.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 29, 2014 at 3:21 PM

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  1. A hundred Asian airlines could drop out of the sky and I still wouldn’t care.

    peterike

    December 29, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    • it’s still kinda interesting that an anonymous poster warned of it though, and the fact that these airplanes keep going down.

      grey enlightenment

      December 29, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    • Don’t you wish our Washington megalomaniacs and the de Blasio types can just cloak away in a plane like the enemies of William Shatner in his Star Trek?

      JS

      December 29, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    • One of the Malaysian Air planes that went down this year was mostly Dutch passengers.

      Also commercial airlines are pretty standardized these days and use similar procedures, planes, flight paths, etc., so an issue with a particular flight could point to related issues with other airlines and flights.

      Dan

      December 29, 2014 at 5:46 PM

  2. No one cares about planes crashing in Africa although at least a dozen do so in that continent every year.

    toos is god

    December 29, 2014 at 3:58 PM

  3. Presumably, this shadowy organization is not the same cabal that was involved in the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and the start of the First World War.

    Oswald Spengler

    December 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

  4. Connecting MH17 to the others is really weird. What did happen in Ukraine?

    bob sykes

    December 29, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    • Wreckage and body pieces and Russia and the US pointing fingers at each other.

      MyTwoCents

      December 30, 2014 at 12:32 AM

  5. L O S T

    jjbees

    December 29, 2014 at 4:19 PM

  6. I heard that the Java Sea is quite shallow, under 100 feet in most places, so if the wreckage is located scuba divers should be able to reach it.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    December 29, 2014 at 4:41 PM

  7. I keep having gory visions of a mass organ harvesting racket. Imagine the black market funds an entire plane of transplantable body parts could amass.

    slithy toves

    December 29, 2014 at 5:48 PM

  8. Perhaps a new understanding of history is needed to make a sense of this. Jay Dyer writes:

    Unfortunately, we have been programmed and conditioned from the earliest years to not believe in the existence, or even the possibility, of large-scale conspiracies. Students of history learn in introductory courses that there are three views of the philosophy of history. First, the random contingency view in which historical events are merely “one damn thing after another” (as one of my professors so elegantly stated), with no apparent reason or causal significance. Second, the so-called “great man” view, in which key religious and political figures cause certain landmark events with history revolving around these figures, such as a Napoleon or a Caesar. The third and least popular is the providential or conspiratorial view. In this view, history is led along by unseen forces, be they malevolent or beneficent. Humans play their role to be sure, but man is not the autonomous god of his own destiny. He is the actor on a stage in which there is a grand narrative and ultimate reason for every event, even if humans are not always cognizant of those reasons.

    Coming to see the truth of a worldwide conspiracy that has been especially centralized in the past few centuries in a western, Anglo-global establishment is also not something people prefer to hear. Humans tend to have a normalcy bias and what is called cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is the tendency to continue to believe something erroneous in the face of masses of contrary evidence, due to the devastating psychological impact discarding the previous erroneous belief would have. Americans are raised with the narrative of being a nation of independent individualists: the frontier mentality still dominates and is an image is always latent in our culture. This individualistic mentality refuses to consider itself as the victim of any conspiracy: we are too great a nation to be ruled by an evil elite, bent on world depopulation. After all, Obama is a “liberal” president, isn’t he? “How could there be a massive conspiracy? If there were, they would all be caught! It’s just not possible,” the opponent says. That’s all “black helicopter, tin-foil-hat nonsense.” To those with low education or no critical thinking skills and common sense, it’s evident that none of these objections suffices to demonstrate that the conspiratorial view is false. From the fact that one is a “proud American” or that George Bush claimed to be a Christian, it does not follow that the conspiratorial view is false. This is called, in logic, a non sequitur. The conclusion does not logically follow from the premises.

    http://jaysanalysis.com/2014/02/25/what-is-the-new-world-order-and-why-does-it-matter/

    Andrew E.

    December 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    • Unseen forces and conspiracies are two different things. For instance, it might be that income inequality is increasing because modern technology more favors a winner-take-all economy than in the past. One that subscribed to this view would not blame Obama or Bush for the rising inequality, but rather the consequences of our technology. That is a very different thing from thinking that a secret conspiracy exists to increase inequality.

      True conspiracies are rare. At some point, somebody blabs. Large impersonal forces are common, and the power of ideas is often underestimated:

      “The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed, the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually slaves of some defunct economist.”

      ― John Maynard Keynes

      BehindTheLines

      December 29, 2014 at 11:56 PM

      • Thanks for making this point, which I was going to make. The historians I read growing up didn’t adopt any of these three views. The most common point of view essentially that institutions evolve, climate changes, technology changes, and these create changes in social arrangements that individuals adapt to. The example of inequality increasing due to new technology vs some people in the elites plotting to create inequality is a good one.

        For example, using the inequality example, there is a strong historical correlation about how needed masses of young men using simple weapons are in warfare and inequality. The more need for masses of young men using simple weapons, the less inequality. As it turns out, we had a peak period of this starting in the late eighteenth century through the end of World War II, where armies were mostly lots of lots of riflemen. Now, drones might remove the need to use humans at all in warfare. There was a big reduction in inequality starting in the late eighteenth century that peaked right after World War II, and then the reversal.

        Ed

        December 30, 2014 at 10:26 AM

      • Dyer makes a good point that current American culture is overly resistant to the idea that the elites and “security” types conspire among themselves. We know this because the CIA had a role in creating this culture! The recent book “Conspiracy Theory in America” explains how the CIA was really worried in the 1960s that too many people were blaming the Kennedy assassinations on Johnson and/ or the CIA and set out to shape popular culture so that people thought that if you believed that the president or the security services could have a role in killing the previous president, you must be really weird.

        Ed

        December 30, 2014 at 10:31 AM

      • To comment directly on Dyer’s argument, if WASP elites have been manipulating world population, its more likely that its to keep population up instead of reducing it. If they have been trying to keep world population down, they have been doing a really, really bad job.

        Ed

        December 30, 2014 at 10:33 AM

      • To comment directly on Dyer’s argument, if WASP elites have been manipulating world population, its more likely that its to keep population up instead of reducing it. If they have been trying to keep world population down, they have been doing a really, really bad job.

        Ed, If the NWO is real then it is necessarily Luciferian since that is the only kind of intelligence willing to and capable of arranging and coordinating such a complex and evil control system across time and space. And the devil cares about souls above all else. So while the NWO elite may understand their mission, on behalf of their master, to be depopulation, Satan would prefer first a massive population explosion in the context of an increasingly godless society so as to be able to harvest as many souls as possible before bringing the end game to a conclusion.

        Andrew E.

        December 30, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    • that’s a pretty well written piece, but there is no “anglo-global establishment.” The “new world order” talk is nothing more than the ravings of some think-tank nerds and Alex Jones losers.

      terrible_twos

      December 30, 2014 at 12:24 AM

  9. Phil Greenspun has an interesting view of the Air Asia disappearance, worth checking out.

    bjdubbs

    December 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM

  10. Unlike the last plane which disappeared during good weather, this plane disappeared in an area in which there were thunderstorms. But suppose that the entity that made the previous plane disappear is also behind this disappearance, and they wanted to create a more plausible explanation for the plane disappearing?

    Evidence suggests these pilots deliberately crashed their planes in the oceans.

    Consider:

    * Like MH370, this plane suddenly changed course before disappearing.

    * The pilots were probably in control of the plane until the end because there’s no indication of a struggle with hijackers for control of the cockpit.

    * Emergency signals are being sabotaged to keep anyone from finding the wreckage.

    Were the AirAsia pilots Muslim?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    December 29, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    • Most of the passengers were Indonesian, which means the passengers were likely mostly Muslim. It’s probably unlikely that it was a Muslim terror attack to kill the Muslim passengers.

      Dan

      December 29, 2014 at 9:07 PM

  11. “Evidence suggests these pilots deliberately crashed their planes in the oceans.”

    crashed planes are found, hidden planes are not — so far.

    rivelino

    December 29, 2014 at 7:18 PM

    • I still think it’s more likely they dove into the ocean simply due to Muslim incompetence not mixing well with complex operations. But with this second, similar, disappearance I’m now open to the theory they’re hiding on a landing strip somewhere. An abandoned WWII Japanese airbase, perhaps?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 29, 2014 at 8:21 PM

  12. “It makes good sense to use the thunderstorms as cover.”

    the thunderstorm is irrelevant. these terrorists planned this disappearing hijack months in advance, and the weather just happened to be bad.

    rivelino

    December 29, 2014 at 7:20 PM

  13. Back in local news, Grimm has decided to resign.

    http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/disgraced-rep-michael-grimm-to-resign/

    peterike

    December 29, 2014 at 9:38 PM

  14. It took 10 days before any wreckage was found from Adam Air 574.

    James B. Shearer

    December 29, 2014 at 10:45 PM

  15. Clearly there’s a conspiracy at work…

    Dozens of people with hyper-active imaginations made far-ranging predictions.

    Vince, the Lionhearted

    December 30, 2014 at 12:01 AM

  16. The Black Hand? More likely it was The Ten Rings.

    Robert the Wise

    December 30, 2014 at 10:56 PM


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