Lion of the Blogosphere

It was not depression

Russell Saunders, the pseudonym of a medical doctor who writes for the Daily Beast, writes that he doesn’t believe that “depression” cause Lubitz to do what he did.

Whatever part of Lubitz’s psyche held the monstrous capacity for depraved indifference or outright malevolence on this scale, it cannot accurately be characterized as depression. Estimates from 2012 put the percentage of Americans suffering from a major depressive episode within the previous year at 6.9 percent, which amounts to about 16 million people. It should go without saying that the overwhelming majority of these people are recoiling from Lubitz’s decision to kill everyone on board his plane along with himself, just like people who have no mental-health diagnosis whatsoever.

Nowhere in the most recent list of criteria for a major depressive episode is there any mention of an increased capacity to harm others or disregard for the suffering of other people.

I am sticking to my original diagnosis of schizophrenia until it it is clearly demonstrated that something else was the problem.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

March 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

Posted in News, Psychology

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  1. You sure the plane didn’t land in Kazakhstan?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    March 28, 2015 at 5:32 PM

  2. Whether depression itself is associated with violence, some have connected the drugs treating depression with violence. http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/07/top-ten-legal-drugs-linked-to-violence/.

    Curle

    March 28, 2015 at 6:36 PM

    • Most likely because the same drugs are used to treat more severe mental illnesses, but because psychiatrists don’t want to stigmatize their patients, they just call it “depression.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    • Approximately five percent of the white population is deficient to very deficient in the production of the CYP2d6 enzyme, which is required to process virtually all SSRIs. For these people, taking SSRIs can be a really bad experience, but virtually no doctors are aware of this problem. I’d love to see some genetic test results of those who have “snapped” while taking SSRIs to see if this might be part of the problem.

      ColRebSez

      March 28, 2015 at 10:54 PM

  3. He supposedly complained of vision problems. Here’s an interesting wikipedia entry:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_processing_abnormalities_in_schizophrenia

    ColRebSez

    March 28, 2015 at 7:08 PM

  4. Off Topic:

    I watched this documentary on Guido poker:

    As an expert, do you know if it is real?

    Thanks

    Winston Smith

    March 28, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    • Why are IA’s so interesting? I know Lion disagrees, but most other whites seem pretty boring by comparison. Southerners with Sartoris stories come, well not close but closest, but everyone else is a far distant second. Even Russians and Balkans aren’t that interesting.

      Curle

      March 29, 2015 at 12:39 AM

      • That’s because IAs live in a world among themselves as unassimilable proles in NYC. And NYC is like no other American city, where undesirables thrive like bugs in a cesspool swamp. There are people here who don’t speak a word of English and do fine, because they live in an enclave that is completely self-sufficient.

        IAs are the outliers among other White immigrant groups, and one ought to do a research project on this unique phenomenon. No need for status, ivy league, liberal policies or elite careers. They are the consummate immigrant group who gives a finger to the American Dream, because they want to do things their way. One should give kudos to IAs for remaining the only true NYC group, who still hasn’t sold their souls to become haughty WASPs like the Jews, Irish, Asians, etc…

        JS

        March 29, 2015 at 1:40 PM

  5. the “doctor” sucks at math

    LC

    March 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM

  6. OT, black on white violence caught on tape:
    http://conservativetribune.com/black-criminal-beats-white-man/

    rivelino

    March 28, 2015 at 10:05 PM

  7. Having been sort of a depressive type myself, and having to deal with people with diagnosed schizophrenia, I agree with LOTB here. The fact is that depression/ anxiety is pretty common, nearly everyone brushes up against at at least a couple times in their life, and if it led to mass murder even a third of the time, well we would clear up the world’s overpopulation problem pretty quickly. Schizophrenia, on the other hand, in a seriously nasty condition. The pilot was in a really dangerous mental state, in terms of it being both hard to detect and likely to do really serious damage.

    Ed

    March 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

  8. Now the Daily Mail is reporting that he cheated on his long-time girlfriend with a stewardess. Hmm, maybe he wasn’t such a beta….

    Anyway, I still maintain that rather than schizophrenia, this guy had severe anxiety issues. He was just way too tightly wound and couldn’t deal with the stresses of being a commercial pilot and maintaining a normal relationship. The news reports keep quoting german doctors as saying he had “burnout” problems, which seem to have begun six years ago when he had to take a six month “break” from training due to “burnout.” To me that sounds less like psychosis than inability to cope with normal levels of stress due to being a highly anxious person.

    Daily Mail is also reporting investigators found a “small mountain of anti-depressants” in his flat. Anti-depressants are typically prescribed to treat anxiety as well as depression, especially as the two often go hand in hand.

    majneb

    March 28, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    • 1. They call it “depression” rather than stigmatize people with the ugly word of “schizophrenia.”

      2. Same drugs could be used to treat schizophrenia. As far as I know, the exact drugs have not been made public.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 29, 2015 at 12:21 AM

    • Majneb, I think you are right.

      Curle

      March 29, 2015 at 12:28 AM

  9. All the evidence points to beta male rage but you don’t want your blog associated with anything low status hence why “schizophrenia” has become so popular with you lately.

    eradican

    March 28, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    • He had a girlfriend, and was cheating on her with a flight attendant. That’s not beta. Beta-male-ragers are always incel.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM

      • European guys are rarely beta losers w/o girlfriends. The same cannot be said of their American counterparts!

        JS

        March 29, 2015 at 12:41 AM

      • Given the fact that he comes from Europe, he has several notches of defacto status not afforded to the average American chump.

        JS

        March 29, 2015 at 12:44 AM

  10. Well, one thing is for sure: the farm system used for training commercial pilots is going to have to change.

    In the old days, it used to be – at least in the USA – that the military was the feeder system for airline pilots. A guy like Lubitz would have washed out of pilot training early, and never had a chance to get behind the stick of a commercial jetliner. Most airline pilots came from the Air Force or the Navy, and had 5000+ hours flight time before they even got a job interview with United or Delta or American.

    Since the end of the Cold War, things have changed, and now you have pilots coming up through the “minor leagues,” i.e. for-profit flight schools and commuter airlines, in debt up to their eyeballs with student loans, and then working for the same wage as an assistant manager of a Family Dollar store. Add to this the pressure from the government to open these jobs to (especially) women, who generally do not have the same technical apptitude and spatial skills as male pilots, and you’ve got accidents waiting to happen.

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    March 28, 2015 at 11:30 PM

  11. I haven’t been to a Spring Break party in over 25 years, but they never ended like this one. But, oh, …never mind.

    OT: Florida Today, 03/28/15 – 7 shot and injured at Florida spring break house party

    http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2015/03/28/shot-injured-florida-spring-break-house-party/70612978/

    PANAMA CITY BEACH – Seven people were injured, some critically, during an early-morning spray of gunfire Saturday at a spring break party on the Florida Panhandle, police said. An Alabama man was quickly apprehended and charged with attempted murder…David Jamichael Daniels, 22, of Mobile, Alabama, was charged with seven counts of attempted murder and jailed awaiting a first court appearance…

    The sheriff’s office said several of the victims were students from Alabama A&M University in Panama City Beach for spring break. At least three were critically injured: Kearria Freed, 20, who was shot in the head; Devanta Moore, 21, who was shot in the chest; and Henton Franklin, 22, who was shot in the side. Three others were listed in stable condition: Jacole Young, 22, who police said was shot in the back three times; Kelli Curry, 21, who was shot in the leg; and Tykeria Ethridge, 22, who was shot in the neck and shoulder. A seventh victim — Anesia Powell, 20 — was shot in the left arm, chest, and knee, and was undergoing surgery Saturday.

    http://www.aamu.edu/admissions/undergraduateadmissions/pages/admission-requirements.aspx
    Entering Freshman are required to have a cumulative grade point average of 2.0 and a minimum American College Test (ACT) score of 18, or a minimum Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) score of 1290.

    According to Wikipedia, those scores are at the 34th and 24th percentiles, respectively.

    E. Rekshun

    March 29, 2015 at 5:58 AM

    • College = status. Everyone deserves status. Therefore everyone should be able to go to college even it it therefore changes the definition of status. I’m surprised this place has any admission standards at all. Wait until you encounter a ‘college grad’ with a degree from an open admission online college. Or worse, someone with a graduate degree from such a place. Prepare to be shocked.

      Curle

      March 29, 2015 at 10:40 AM


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