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Lubitz received Olanzapine injection in 2010

According to French news (but not reported in any English-language article), the injection that Andreas Lubitz recieved in 2010 was Olanzapine.

According to Wikipedia, Olanzapine is an antipsychotic used to treat Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder.

Additional information about Olanzapine:

This medicine is classified as an antipsychotic medication and is used to treat patients that suffer from delusions, hallucinations, unorganized thought and hostility. This medicine may also be prescribed to treat severe behavioral problems in children.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

March 29, 2015 at 8:26 PM

Posted in News, Psychology

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  1. Holy Christ, enough of this.

    ScarletNumber

    March 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM

  2. and what else is it used for? i found this:

    In the US, Olanzapine (olanzapine systemic) is a member of the drug class atypical antipsychotics and is used to treat Agitation, Anorexia, Anorexia Nervosa, Asperger Syndrome, Bipolar Disorder, Body Dysmorphic Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Depression, Insomnia, Major Depressive Disorder, Nausea/Vomiting – Chemotherapy Induced, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Paranoid Disorder, Schizoaffective Disorder, Schizophrenia and Tourette’s Syndrome.

    Robert Gabriel Mugabe

    March 29, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    • Wow, it’s good for everything. Not an exact science, eh?

      Mrs Stitch

      March 29, 2015 at 9:49 PM

      • Precision eats profit. Better for all involved (mental health types) that neuroleptic$ remain stand-in, jack of all trades treatments for just about any psychological deviation under the sun. These are horrendous poisons that will seriously **** you up.

        Socially Extinct

        March 29, 2015 at 11:19 PM

      • “Wow, it’s good for everything. Not an exact science, eh?”

        It’s cod liver oil for the twenty-first century: cures whatever ails ya.

        Jonathan Silber

        March 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM

  3. I thought I read that pilots were automatically relieved of flying duties if they took drugs like this. Apparently this is only true of U.S. pilots. (?) Of course this leads to the question what mechanism is in place to communicate information from a doctor’s office to the airlines.

    CamelCaseRob

    March 29, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    • Health records are private. And the reason they are private is to protect you from discrimination by employers.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 29, 2015 at 9:13 PM

      • Of course this leads to the question what mechanism is in place to communicate information from a doctor’s office to the airlines.

        In most Canadian provinces there is legislation (which overrides patient privacy) stating that healthcare providers *must* report medically unsafe drivers or aircrew to the authorities. Dunno about the US.

        Samson J.

        March 29, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      • “Health records are private. And the reason they are private is to protect you from discrimination by employers.” ——————————–

        Whew, thank goodness for that! Because the worst, worst, worst thing I can imagine ever happening ever is someone being discriminated against. To allow discrimination would be almost like saying all of those made-for-tv movies were made in vain. That MLK, Betty Friedan and their progeny aren’t the most important people ever to grace the American stage. That there exist some level of social ambition (like survival) that is more important than the egalitarian dream. Sacre bleu! Let the DREAM continue!

        Curle

        March 30, 2015 at 11:06 AM

  4. Lion of the Blogosphere, you’re a genius beyond words and so prescient in your understanding of contemporary political topics and current events. Sometimes I wonder if it’s simply a function of your high-IQ or something else. That’s why I named myself after you. You’re the first person to piece together all the facts relating to Lubitz’s schizophrenia because it’s too hot of a hot potato for everyone else.

    Off topic, something I was thinking about the other day was May 23. It happened to be the day Elliot Rodger died and also the day Paul Fussell died. Coincidence? I think not. (it also happens to be my birthday but I’m not gonna draw any profound connection from that because that would be kinda schizo, right?)

    Lion of the Judah-sphere

    March 29, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    • No coincidence. But, whatever you do don’t google ‘illuminati.’

      Curle

      March 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM

      • You must have heard of the Illuminatus Trilogy because that book is all about May 23.

        Lion of the Judah-sphere

        April 1, 2015 at 8:12 PM

  5. Could it be that his problems with the opposite sex stems from the fact that he was mentally ill/schizophrenic?

    JS

    March 29, 2015 at 11:45 PM

  6. Zyprexa(Olanzapine) is the true wonder drug. It takes care of more than schizopheria and bipolar – it is used for stuttering, PTSD, and even pacifies elders. It also helps Ivy League students that happened to consume too much weed. They continue on with their fruitful lives after that. If you have not tried it yet, you will certainly eventually try it in nursing home. Now with that being said, I do not advocate giving it to pilots, but can certainly say that nothing bad comes out of it if you wait for few weeks after you taper it off.

    MyTwoCents

    March 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    • What a world

      Sagi Is My Guru

      March 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM

  7. To paraphrase General Dempsey, the real tragedy of the Lufthansa crash would be if delusional, hallucinating, drug-addled pilots are denied their sacred right to fly jetliners with hundreds of trusting, unknowing passengers aboard.

    Jonathan Silber

    March 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    • It’s not Lubitz’ fault that he had mental illness. That’s not to say that I think that piloting an airplane (or driving a bus for that matter) is a good career for people with that sort of serious mental illness.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM

      • Yes, but it is his fault that he continued in that career, even with the diagnosis. Assuming he had the diagnosis, which you’ve given us every reason to believe, failing to resign his post was selfish and wrong.

        Lowe

        March 31, 2015 at 9:31 PM

      • According to what I read about schizophrenia, patients often disbelieve they are sick. In fact, maybe Lubitz read some comments by some of the very type of morons who have posted on this blog saying that there was nothing wrong with Lubitz except for the meds. So he went off his meds (which he needed to avoid pyschotic episodes), and then because of that he had a psychotic episode on the plane.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        March 31, 2015 at 10:53 PM

      • That is a good point. He may not even have been competent to make the decision. All the more reason the decision should have been taken out of his hands by the airline, with compulsory psychological screening.

        Thanks for the great commentary on this story. You are very insightful.

        Lowe

        April 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM

      • Europe already has a rule that people with schizophrenia can’t pilot planes, but apparently one can get treated by a psychiatrist for schizophrenia and the psychiatrist is not obligated to tell anyone, and the airline has no way of finding out.

        I am looking forward to the invstigators subpoenaing Lubitz’ psychiatrists so we can finally find out what was going on with him.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM

  8. Lion, even though the final confirmation of Schizophrenia has not yet occurred, I think you are basically vindicated. This drug is also available in oral form. The injection is basically for emergencies, when there is major agitation. An injection is an inpatient thing, not something that is part of an ongoing treatment plan.

    Dan

    March 30, 2015 at 10:35 AM

  9. Now that I think about it, I bet airline pilots are supposed to go to doctors associated with their employer, only. The key word being “only”. If they go to physicians not affiliated with their employer for mental issues, they could get on these prescriptions without the airline knowing. That’s a weakness in the system, and one that would be hard to address. You’d basically have to have a world-wide (or at least nation-wide) registry of all commercial pilots that doctors could check patient’s names against.

    CamelCaseRob

    March 30, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    • Apparently not. Here’s a Guardian article quoting a former airline pilot:

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/30/depressed-pilots-need-sympathy-germanwings-flight-4u9525

      “None of the carriers for whom I worked ever gave me any psychological tests in the recruitment process. Nor were there any ongoing checks for psychological health or emotional fitness thereafter. The only formal health screening was a six-monthly physical medical check. This was quite stressful in itself, as careers depended upon passing it. Interestingly, there was no coordination with pilots’ GPs, so any issues of depression, alcoholism or other emotional problems were not picked up.”

      jimbo

      March 30, 2015 at 3:51 PM

      • Interesting, I bet that will change.

        CamelCaseRob

        March 30, 2015 at 6:01 PM


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