Lion of the Blogosphere

Lastest poll, Trump surges ahead

Tump 24%, Walker 13%, Bush 12%. But it’s not clear what sort of hit Trump will take for his McCain comments.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

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  1. Just one last comment regarding America’s ultimate proledom and final moments.

    Trump is a low class prole and a hypocritical moron. He mentioned about bringing back, boring, rote grinding, factory jobs to his constituents, that now proles, with their short attention span from all our technological habits, don’t even want. Furthermore, his rhetoric protectionism falls flat, when his clothing line sold at Macy’s and other dept stores are “Made in China”. His comments about Mexicans being rapist, murderers and thieves…perhaps his Spanish speaking staff at the Taj Mahal are just that.

    Prole Drift – I was at the post office today with an all NAM staff, where there was a line of 20 credulous people staring at their phones constantly, and I could count 5 White men on that line who had tattoos tattered in their arms. One guy has tats on the back of his neck, and another one with skin art on his temples. Sick, America is a done deal!

    JS

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • ” I was at the post office today with an all NAM staff, where there was a line of 20 credulous people staring at their phones constantly, and I could count 5 White men on that line who had tattoos tattered in their arms.”

      I ate out Saturday. My waitress was extraordinarily good looking and personable but had tattoos all over her lower arm. I wondered why in the world such a genetic lottery winner would do that to herself.

      Stealth

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Tatoos are pretty common in the restaurant industry, even among wealthy, chef-owners.

        Dave Pinsen

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • Because the guys she is interested in attracting like tattoos.

        CamelCaseRob

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • UPS Store & Fedex-Kinkos is less prole JS. I’m surprised you went to a USPS.

      uatu

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

      • uatu – Again, being on this blog for so long, you should know by now after reading my comments, that all corporate retail in NYC are staffed by ~100% NAM, with a predominantly black majority. Do you expect proles to staff them, who are mostly priced out of the Big Apple in favor of subsidized racial minorities, or SWPL fussers, who have more “noble” endeavors, and will never embark on a low status job?

        JS

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • JS – fair point. I stand corrected.

        uatu

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • Tats are a toughness marker. Aka NAMs don’t mess with me.

      whiskeysplace

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • JS, just because everyone isn’t full “niggerdeath” like you doesn’t mean they are bad people or prole.

      Not everyone has the intellectual capacity, time, energy, or moral courage to go that far. Be a reasonable person for once.

      Trump isn’t a complete extremist to the right like the USA truly needs, but he is a pretty smart successful guy, and is a step in the right direction. Literally no one of import talks about immigration like it is a problem, and he does- you can’t just throw the baby out with the bath water.

      I do agree, though, America is full prole. I notice a lot of white male proles my age go tattoo because, as our momentum is carrying us into 3rd world territory, it’s extremely important to project a tough badass image– the future is violent and they need to show women they can handle the mad max america that is coming.

      jjbees

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

      • the future is violent and they need to show women they can handle the mad max america that is coming.

        Violent crime has been declining for 40 years and women get tattoos too so I don’t buy that explanation.

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • I wouldn’t get a tattoo even if it was considered high class. I also wouldn’t get my tongue or nipples pierced. I don’t like tattoos because I don’t like them.

        not too late

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Be a reasonable person for once.

        jjbees – I hear a lot of proles in Meriprolestan want our leaders to bomb Iran, such feelings which were riled up by a few of our right wing conservatards, including our former governor of NYS, George Pataki and also Mr. Atlantic City himself. Do you what would happen if we actually bombed the hell out of the Islamic Republic? This isn’t Iraq, we’re dealing with the Persians, who have backing from the Russians, and the Commie Chins.

        JS

        July 22, 2015 at EDT pm

    • Sorry: if a billionaire Wharton alumnus is a “low class prole”, then that phrase has no meaning.

      Trump doesn’t have any “constituents” now, because he isn’t an elected official, but if he did, I’m sure they’d be happy with any job that paid decent money. Trump is right to focus on the importance of good-paying jobs: the “Reagan Democrats” were blue collar workers whose jobs paid well and had great health and pension benefits, so they were free to vote Republican for cultural reasons (guns, patriotism, etc.). An ever-expanding precariat is an electoral loser for the GOP, because voters who are dependent on government for a safety net will vote Dem.

      As for Trump’s alleged hypocrisy, it doesn’t bother me that his ties were made in China or if some of his work sites employee illegal aliens. As a businessman, Trump’s job is to make profits within the legal and regulatory environment set by government. If the government wants you to hire illegals and outsource production, you do that. As a presidential candidate, Trump realizes that’s not in the best interest of the country, and he’s right. If the government started enforcing its immigration laws at the worksite and instituted a balanced trade policy, businessmen would act accordingly.

      Dave Pinsen

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Trump, for all of his obvious flaws, is an economic nationalist. He is against illegal immigrants and bad trade deals stealing US jobs. That really strikes a chord, which is why he’s done so well in the polls, in spite of his obvious lack of fitness to be President.

        What’s strange to me is that with 16 (or is it 20?) Republican candidates in the field, none of them has had the sense to see what’s appealing about Trump and copy it. That shows the massive divide between the Party Establishment and the people. Economic nationalism is the only card the Republicans have to play against Democratic free goodies, and if they don’t have the sense to realize that, they deserve their upcoming defeat in 2016.

        Mike Street Station

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • if a billionaire Wharton alumnus is a “low class prole”, then that phrase has no meaning.

        That’s BS!

        Trump is neither an nouveau riche nor an old money stuff shirt. He inherited most of his wealth from his dad. Let’s say most of the wealthy in Meriprolestan are just what I said. They could never attain the status of TOOS = Prole.

        JS

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • He inherited most of his wealth from his dad.

        No: per Wiki, Trump’s dad was worth $250-$300 million. Trump earned more than that last year alone, and is worth $10 billion, more than 30x his father’s wealth.

        Dave Pinsen

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Nevertheless he didn’t hit a home run, he started out on third base.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Other GOP candidates can’t do the economic nationalist thing because they are not rich and the globalists own them.

        not too late

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • Still seems a lot better than Hillary!! (“US policy for sale, all currencies accepted”) or ¡Jeb! (“¡Soy non-prole!”).

      Perhaps the land just needs to connect with loudmouth billionaire proles instead of Harvard extruded product every now and then.

      Glengarry

      July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  2. I remember 20 or so years ago when Perot ran for president and for a while he lead in the polls. After a while he faded and I predict the same thing will happen to Trump. Not completely sure why but maybe you need to have party machinery behind you to stand a decent chance.

    sabril

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • As I recall, Perot stuck to trade deals, ending gridlock and things like that. Perot did not rock the boat on any issues like affirmative action, the LA Riots, immigration …etc, even though those things were in the news back then.

      Trump is taking a much harder stance on taboo issues like immigration. Plus he is not backing down. Trump is the first politician I can recall who ever fought back against the media and the establishment of both parties (not to mention big business and the race lobbies).

      Bernie

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • One reason Perot faded in the polls is because he temporarily dropped out of the race, claiming some bizarre conspiracy about Republicans surveilling his daughter’s wedding or something. Maybe he was surprised by how well he was doing in the polls and had a mental breakdown.

      Dave Pinsen

      July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Kinky Friedman pulled the same kind of thing when he ran for Governor of Texas nine years ago. It was a four-man race, and the electorate was split enough that polls were starting to show he just might win it. Suddenly Friedman started tossing out racial cracks and other weird stuff. I thought at the time he’d been spooked by the possibility he’d actually get elected, and deliberately sabotaged his campaign.

        Richard

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • Perot purposefully entered the race to split the vote on behalf of Bill Clinton. In exchange, Clinton would use Perot’s EDS company to administer the HillaryCare system they were planning on establishing.

        I like Trump and I like what he sayd, but watch out for this tactic.

        map

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • @map: so what you are saying is HRC has promised trump the choicest havana beachfronts for a slew of trump hotels and resorts in havana?

        uatu

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • Perot self destructed because he said Bush was trying to sabotage his daughter’s wedding, or something. Also, he didn’t run as a Republican.

      CamelCaseRob

      July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

  3. Jesus fuck what the hell was up with that anti-POW comment?

    I don’t blame him for evading a shitty war, it was the smart thing to do. But what he said was just.. some next level stupid..

    Kaz

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

  4. When I looked at the actual footage of Trump at the Family Leadership Council, I see that Trump said over and over McCain was a war hero! Only in the first instance does he say McCain wasn’t a WAR hero, meaning he wasn’t a hero for killing or degrading the enemy. He explains immediately that McCain was a war hero for being captured. He repeats for emphasis: McCain was a war hero.

    Needless to say, the Mainstream Media is out to destroy Trump.

    Trump at the Family Leadership Council (56 sec clip)

    Mark Caplan

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

  5. McCain is a POS who has used his Vietnam service to make himself untouchable. He turned for the North Vietnamese though, and plenty didn’t. Being an admiral’s son has helped him a lot too. But people are getting sick of him. I’m a veteran and have the greatest admiration and respect for POWs like Gerry Coffee and James Stockdale, but that doesn’t extend to McCain.

    thrasymachus33308

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • I have more respect and admiration for war heroes like Alvin York. Alvin York killed and captured hundreds of German troops, nearly single-handedly. As I noted on Twitter and on Sailer’s site, men like Alvin York and Audy Murphy used to be our war heroes. We went from them to considering POWs like Jessica Lynch heroes. John McCain was a pitstop on the way from Audy Murphy to Jessica Lynch.

      I’m not surprised Trump isn’t impressed with McCain. He respects winning, not suffering.

      Dave Pinsen

      July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • Part of the reason that we don’t celebrate amazing soldiers like York and Murphy is that they don’t get a chance to show their stuff because our wars are against inferior opponents.

        T

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

    • Once again: John McCain: When “Tokyo Rose” Ran for President

      Surf through the comments, too. Vets of the era hate his guts!

      […]

      “McCain’s loyal wife was disabled in a serious auto accident while he was a POW. Soon after he returned, McCain dumped her for a wealthy woman 20 years younger. The Reagans were so angry they never spoke to him again. He then married his new babe before he officially got divorced, so there’s that bigamy thing. I don’t know why any Arizonian votes for this crazed man, especially since he’s a big advocate for open borders. At a union meeting, he told workers illegals are needed because Americans are too lazy to work farm fields, even for $50 an hour. McCain has never labored his entire life, always on the government dole now earning ten times minimum wage worker pay, whose increase he opposes.

      “McCain grew up wealthy and enjoyed free government health care his entire life, yet thinks it’s nothing commoners deserve. While running for president and attacking the poor a rare good reporter asked how many houses he owned. He was unsure, but thought maybe seven.”

      If one stops and thinks about it…it’s obvious why the NVA didn’t kill him when they had the chance.

      Those old cultures…whyyyy, they know things we haven’t even thought about!

      aandrews

      July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  6. He’s not gonna take a hit for the McCain comment. Media and libs were salivating over that comment, but veterans aren’t offended because they don’t see themselves as heroes. Even McCain’s response is that he isn’t a hero.

    JW

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

  7. I’m still waiting for Rand Paul’s surge due to his pandering to Al Sharpton, defending the Ferguson rioters and supporting affirmative action and amnesty. Any day now, blacks and liberals will come – in their millions – to the polls in support of this self-styled “Detroit Republican.”

    Bernie

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • A Republican trying to get the Obama coalition will show all the success that Jack Kemp got when he tried it. In other words, nothing. Bernie Sanders is taking the young people that Paul was counting on. Why would they settle for a pale imitation when Sanders will give the kids free college?

      Mike Street Station

      July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • Write off the student loans for starters and impose price controls on higher education.

        Republicans could mess around with the university pillar of the Cathedral pretty good if they wanted to. Though they don’t.

        Glengarry

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  8. So far Trump hasn’t benefited Bush by hurting Scott Walker. Walker is still way ahead in Iowa and he usually comes in second nationwide behind Trump.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 20, 2015 at EDT pm

    • People who agree with Trump know he won’t be President, so they look for the most electable version of Trump (anti-immigration, and won’t back down from SJWs). That’s Scott Walker. He will be the nominee once the Chamber of Commerce realize the base will not turn out for ¡YEB!, Lindsey!, Pataki, or Kasich types.

      dsgnt_plyr

      July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • I’m down with that. If Trump pulls Walker further right on immigration and raises Jeb’s negatives then that’s more gravy, no matter whether he flames out later.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

  9. It’s quite possible that McCain rally wasn’t a war hero at all. Ron Unz has a pretty well written article that raises a lot of questions about McCain’s supposedly heroic record.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

    Graf von Jung

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  10. I like Trump more every day. Can you imagine any politician saying that he had never asked G-d for forgiveness? Doesn’t ingratitude himself with electorate. I like that. Compare this to Jeb’s: ‘I converted to Catholicism out of respect for my wife and because sacraments give me comfort’. Religion is about truth and serving G-d, not pleasing your wife or your personal comfort. Anybody but Jeb.

    Yakov

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

    • “I converted to Catholicism out of respect for my wife”

      That marriage depresses me. Heartiste sized it up quite well at his site, and it was a massacre of a shivving. Jeb Bush was an aristocrat. He doesn’t even get to speak English at home. It is not clear to me if Columba Bush, after 40 years in the United States, is fluent in English. It seems the only videos to be found online have her speaking in Spanish.

      Dan

      July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • Jeb, despite being rich, was probably a nerdy kid when he visited Mexico who had never been with a girl before, and was overwhelmed by a sexy Mexican girl.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 21, 2015 at EDT am

      • More gynocentrism from Heartiste. That this guy and his fanbase are content to rehash the same tropes over and over again, with only subtle variations, shows that they have no intellectual curiosity.

        shiva1008

        July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

  11. I enjoyed the gloating by cuckservatives on my Facebook, that “the Trump Express will grind to a halt!” With $4 billion, Trump does not need the approval of the cucks to keep his train rolling.

    ewanmacerc

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  12. I’m surprised Trump hasn’t yet noted that Walker is afflicted with a bald spot.

    jef

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  13. Trump needs to stress that social security and state pension checks won’t be coming when Uncle Sam can’t afford to prop up those things and take care of ‘Obama’s Kids’ (the young illegals). If he can make that point, he breaks off a key chunk of the Dem base while preaching to his own right wing choir. He breaks off part of the chunk that Romney famously gave up on.

    Knowmad

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  14. The McCain comments could yet hurt him. His poll numbers were flagging in the last night of the poll Lion cited. I liked what he did in claiming that McCain owed his supporters an apology for calling them “crazy,” but that may not be enough.

    It might be a good play for him to hit the Ferguson/law-enforcement drum hard now. It’s better for the media to talk about how he is a “racist” than to talk about how he doesn’t respect POWs. To make sure it sticks he should cite some crime statistics. Then the talking heads would go apeshit, and he’d probably go up another 10 or 15 points.

    Lowe

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  15. It’s clear that the MSM loathe and fear Trump and will do all they can to destroy him. All the more reason to support him. Watching the full clip of what Trump said about McCain, it doesn’t seem so bad. Impolitic at worst. By the way, former NATO supreme commander (and one-time Democratic presidential candidate) Wesley Clark just called for putting “disloyal Americans into detention camps:

    “On a national policy level, we need to look at what self-radicalization means. … So if these people are radicalized and don’t support the United States, and they are disloyal to the united States, as a matter of principle that’s their right. It’s our right and our obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict.”

    ….

    Didn’t hear too much about that from the MSM, but Clark isn’t running for president (this time). Also, McCain once called Arizonans who favored building a border fence “a bunch of crazies,” but I guess that’s OK too.

    Black Death

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

  16. Have any notables on the right declared themselves for Trump outside of the anti-immigration bloc? Any conservative Jewish pundits or Christian conservatives? I was disappointed that tough-guy Trump is an “All Fetuses Matter” bleeding-heart panderer to Christian conservatives.

    Mark Caplan

    July 21, 2015 at EDT am

    • I am pleased to discover (from you) that flabby clown-boy Trump is an “All Fetuses Matter” traditionalist panderer to the small core of real American males that prevents the world from plunging into Chinese robotocracy.

      garr

      July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Robotocracy???

        The Chinese are generally isolationists.

        JS

        July 23, 2015 at EDT pm

  17. Trump is not a prole. In fact, he is a true aristocrat in the warrior king tradition. Just like Patton, McArthur or even King Henry VIII he does not give a good God damn what you, I or anyone else thinks of him. He knows who he is and exerts himself unapologetically. He fights for what he believes in and takes care of his own. This is the bearing of a true Lord.

    We have been so blinded by the effete liberalism of SWPLdom that we now equate “upper class” with all things degenerate, pretentious and homosexual. Let’s get this straight…a “prole” is a proletarian, an undedated working class toiler…and there is nothing even remotely proletarian about Donald Trump.

    B.T.D.T.

    July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • JS just calls anything and everything prole. He doesn’t appear to have an accurate taxonomy of the class system.

      shiva1008

      July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Just about everything in Meriprolestan is Prole, meaning low class, distasteful and abhorrent! Whether it’s the way how people dress or they way they conduct themselves. It’s all proledom in America!

        JS

        July 22, 2015 at EDT pm

      • Here Shiva, if you can follow the prole logic: America’s high class is America’s low class, and its low class is the lower class!

        JS

        July 22, 2015 at EDT pm

  18. I think the McCain thing is overblown; it’s GOP grasping at straws to get rid of this guy or at least make him settle down into grey tone policed insignificance. I wonder how many voters beyond the core junkies know who McCain is, or would care if they knew. Maybe not that many.

    It still seems unlikely that Trump will win though, or even get the nomination. On the other hand, there’s Silvio Berlusconi as a counter example.

    Glengarry

    July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • McCain was the 2008 nominee. A lot of voters know who he is. Not sure that many like him, though.

      Lowe

      July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

  19. Trump didn’t say anything terrible about McCain, being a POW doesn’t make anybody a hero.

    Let me give you a couple of examples of the real heroes:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Matrosov

    Here is a excerpt, but the whole entry below:

    Originally in training as a dentist, Joseph Trumpeldor volunteered for the Russian army in 1902. During the Russo-Japanese War, he participated in the siege of Port Arthur, where he lost his left arm to shrapnel. He spent a hundred days in the hospital recovering, but elected to complete his service. When he was questioned about his decisions and told that he was heavily advised not to continue fighting given his handicap, he responded “but I still have another arm to give to the motherland.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Trumpeldor

    Yakov

    July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

  20. The media already declared him someone who hates all immigrants and think Mexican men are all reprints. Result: he went from 4 behind Jeb to 10 points ahead in two weeks.

    The media declaring him a vet hater isn’t going to hurt him either. The GOP base hates the media.

    Lot

    July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

  21. Trump is good. O’Reilly couldn’t manipulate him and let him talk.

    Yakov

    July 21, 2015 at EDT pm

    • At 3:58 it sounds like Trump says “Bush didn’t have the IQ.” Very apt!

      Graf von Jung

      July 22, 2015 at EDT am

  22. Slight O/T Lion, me thinks Islamophobia and the hatred for the Muslim Middle East, is entirely a prole thing, versus Anti-Semitism or Anti-Israel, which does always not attract the same type of followers.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/brooklyn-assemblyman-arrested-nyc-iran-protest-article-1.2301976

    Dov Hikind is your quintessential pro-Israel, Orthodox Prole Jew.

    JS

    July 23, 2015 at EDT pm


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