Lion of the Blogosphere

Trump surges to 28%

Wow. He’s now way ahead of Bush and Walker. Despite the fact that the mainstream media has been dead set on depicting Trump as a joke and the Republican establishment hates him.

This demonstrates the benefits of (1) talking about illegal immigration, something that every other candidate is afraid to do; and (2) never apologizing for anything.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 25, 2015 at 12:39 PM

Posted in Politics

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  1. This morning’s news talk shows still not taking him seriously. The WA and NYC Elite just_don’t_get the rest of America.

    marie

    July 25, 2015 at 1:06 PM

  2. Even among his supporters and those who welcome him as a relief from PC echo-chamber pablum, I notice expressions of concern that he’s too erratic to function well as an actual president.

    I share the concern. But what’s the baseline comparison? Can it get worse than the presidents we’ve been getting and will continue to get? Maybe, but at least equally, maybe not. Probably not, many would credibly say. Definitely not. Anyway, I’m wholly comfortable with the idea of him as my president.

    ewanmacerc

    July 25, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    • So your both concerned and wholly comfortable? Gotcha.

      prolier than thou

      July 25, 2015 at 4:18 PM

    • I don’t have any concern regarding what policies Trump as president would implement. My only fear is whether he could win the general election.

      If he pulls Walker further right on immigration and beats up Jeb (who according to today’s Marist poll of New Hampshire is in second place behind Trump; Walker a close third) Trump’s candidacy will be a great success.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 26, 2015 at 12:04 PM

  3. We live in a world where Republicans won a big victory in midterms after promising to (1) end executive amnesty and (2) fix Obamacare.

    Instead, the Republicans waited only 20 days to pass executive amnesty in the Cromnibus, and have stopped even with the symbolic votes against Obamacare.

    All the they accomplished was passing a very bad trade deal that will put a lot of Americans out of work, and they pre-approved whatever deal with Iran that Obama wants.

    The public knows that the Republican Party is full of shit. What the public wants is a two party system of government.

    Is anybody fooled by business as usual politicians like Marco Rubio? (Criticizes Iran deal after letting Obama get whatever he wants, by pre approving it). (Claims to be for “border security” but votes for mass amnesty). What about Jon McCain (runs ad ” just build the dang wall” then calls anybody who wants a wall built a “crazy.”)

    Who cares about Supreme Court nominations if that just means more John Roberts?

    Any republican who runs a business as usual campaign is a suspect. The world has changed.

    Rotten

    July 25, 2015 at 1:27 PM

  4. “Never apologize, never explain.”

    – H.R.Haldeman 1969

    marty

    July 25, 2015 at 1:31 PM

    • That quote dates back to a 1949 John Wayne movie, and to British politicians long before that.

      Schlafly

      July 25, 2015 at 7:14 PM

  5. but how can he win?

    Seems destined to do a “perot” to the republican party, and it will be against a bush, again, of course.

    i’d like to be wrong, so talk me out of it.

    ralph

    July 25, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    • Why would you be afraid of Jeb Bush not being president?

      Bernie

      July 25, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    • He can win if the Republican Party backs him

      They wolnt

      They will “Sarah Palin” him

      Rotten

      July 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM

      • There’s a huge difference there. Palin was a moron. Trump is smart and graduated from Wharton.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 25, 2015 at 6:59 PM

      • That’s not a difference that matters here. The media will Sarah Palin him.

        bomag

        July 26, 2015 at 1:51 AM

      • Don’t forget that Sarah Palin was Sarah Palined because she was Sarah Palin, i.e., a total loon. Donald Trump is not. I’d bet he’s a Clinton stooge intended to Perot the GOP into a win for the Dems a la the 1992 election, and that Hilary will find or has found a way already to compensate him handsomely in kind for the favor, but YMMV. It’s just that time of year when America pretends it isn’t run like a third world country again.

        Viscount Douchenozzlé

        July 27, 2015 at 12:39 PM

    • Is it necessarily such a bad thing if he splits the Republican vote? Maybe the comparison is not with Perot but with Nigel Farage of UKIP taking votes from the British Conservatives. (I’m English). It was only because of their anti-EU and immigration stance that David Cameron (Conservative) felt pressured to offer a referendum on EU membership and promised to ‘get tough’ on immigration, for fear of losing too many votes to them.

      Of course there are risks with splitting the vote but at this stage I think it is probably worth taking the risk and hoping that he can create a permanent shift in opinion that the mainstream Republicans know they will have to court to win.

      prolier than thou

      July 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM

      • You are correct indeed. If he splits the Republican vote it will force issues to be addressed.

        Trump is doing the country a great service no matter the outcome of his campaign.

        I delightedly look forward to his contributions. I’m fascinated by how the Republican honcho’s will try to square a huge base hatred of illegal immigration with a tacit policy of Illegal Immigration is – Love: if you hate it you are the devil..

        Enhance the contradictions Trump! Go third party if you need to. Got my vote.

        ModernReader

        July 26, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    • I don’t think Trump will run as 3rd party. The GOP establishment recently tried to concoct a scheme to keep Trump out of the debates. So he threatened to run as 3rd party to make them back off. He even said his decision will be based on whether they treat him fairly.

      destructure

      July 25, 2015 at 4:45 PM

      • Yeah, Trump is just keeping the GOP honest. Negotiate for a position of strength.

        The art of the deal.

        ca

        July 26, 2015 at 1:22 AM

    • I don’t think he can win, but I think he has shown how a Republican candidate could win if he cherry picked some of Trump’s attitude and agenda. The don’t apologize attitude is dead on. And illegal immigration…good grief, if there is a better example of the distance between the party and it’s base I can’t think of it. 16 Republican candidates and they almost all support some version of amnesty, with maybe Trump and Walker dissenting. But not clearly. A Republican candidate who vows to put American workers first, protect jobs from trade and immigrants could go along way across party lines.

      But, I don’t see it happening. The establishment Republicans would rather lose to Hillary than win with a Republican who isn’t with their program.

      Mike Street Station

      July 25, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    • How can he win the nomination? Easily, if he stays this popular. And if he wins the nomination, hard to see him losing to Hillary.

      Dave Pinsen

      July 25, 2015 at 8:19 PM

  6. Trump has started talking about a path to citizenship for the 11 to 45 million illegals currently thumbing their noses at us. He would use a “merit-based system,” without specifying in detail what that would entail.

    Mark Caplan

    July 25, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    • Which candidate said, “No, they can NEVER earn citizenship”? Christie? or Walker?

      marie

      July 25, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    • Of course he has. They all support adding low wage earners to the labor market. Where the candidates differ is on the issue of skilled immigration, and by “the candidates” I refer to Bernie Sanders, who stands alone as the only one to oppose the expansion of the H1-B programme at the legislative level. Donald’s “rapists” comment was a straw man intended to get the mainstream GOP riled up so that Hispanics swing left. Obviously there are lots of Hispanic immigrant rapists – but I’m not satisfied that it’s anything more than a function of demographics. People convicted of rape trend overwhelmingly male and overwhelmingly low socioeconomic status. Guess what, most immigrants to and from anywhere are overwhelmingly male and overwhelmingly low socioeconomic status.

      Trump is playing a role and plans to lose. There are only two real candidates running in this election, and both of them are Democrats, but only one is interested in helping YOU if you aren’t already rich. My bet, though, is that American’s won’t understand that at scale for another 20-30 years.

      Viscount Douchenozzlé

      July 27, 2015 at 12:49 PM

      • Ugh. Americans (no apostrophe).

        Viscount Douchenozzlé

        July 27, 2015 at 12:52 PM

  7. Yeah, I have to say that I despise the apologizing crap. Come on people, just say, “no.”

    I think most presidents have been empty suits. They have handlers etc.

    I read somewhere that three of Obama’s friends got murdered right before the primaries. Pretty damned weird. Is that really true? There are so many damned lies, and so much stuff the media mentions on p.27 that it is hard to know.

    not too late

    July 25, 2015 at 3:31 PM

  8. It makes no sense to me that he’s a populist on reducing illegal immigration and trade but on the biggest populist issue of all, legal immigration, he’s horrible. That’s the whole reason to be a populist, to reduce legal immigration. That’s the big one. That’s the one that’s hurting the working class quality of life the most. He’s a diversion. He’s going to scuttle the last best chance we have.

    Dave

    July 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    • Yet he can’t even endorse the sensible position of being against illegal immigration (which is theoretically just the law) without being hated upon by the MSM.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 25, 2015 at 6:58 PM

      • I don’t see that it matters. Trump can turn bad press into good press.

        Dave

        July 25, 2015 at 9:23 PM

      • Trump might piss off the MSM with his diatribe against illegal immigrants (aka Hispanics), but there’s one topic he would never dare speak up about: The black underclass and blacks in general.

        JS

        July 28, 2015 at 10:55 AM

  9. Good points. It also shows the benefits of being a well-known billionaire who does not have to be slave to donors.’

    Shawn

    July 25, 2015 at 3:38 PM

  10. So he banned reporters from Iowa’s largest paper from attending his speech there after they wrote some unflattering things about him (at least initially, one site said he did allow a reporter from that paper later on). But still, what a cry baby. Mr. Tough Guy. “I’ll say whatever and apologize for nothing.” Please. Clown.

    JoKnow

    July 25, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    • No, you have that wrong–they called for him to get out of the race and NOW. So, it seems fitting that if their editorial board said, “Get out” he should not give papers to their reporters.

      In other words, they wanted to remove him from participation so that you and I couldn’t hear what he had to say. How un-American.

      marie

      July 25, 2015 at 10:54 PM

      • Writing that he should get out of the race isn’t un-American, it’s freedom of speech–1st Amendment stuff. So what they did is actually uber-American.

        JoKnow

        July 26, 2015 at 11:41 AM

  11. Not only that, Trump has a commanding 31.4% of Hispanic support. BOOM! LOL

    destructure

    July 25, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    • I am not surprised. By appealing to prole whites one also appeals to Hispanics.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 25, 2015 at 7:00 PM

      • So you endorsed the prole candidate?

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        July 26, 2015 at 3:59 AM

  12. The Iowa caucuses are not until February, and he’ll probably be gone by then. Trump will declare victory — “I accomplished everything I set out to accomplish by bringing up the REAL issues” — and then explain he’d prefer to continue to be a multi-billionaire rather than President.

    Vince

    July 25, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    • Not unthinkable. Perot imploded, Trump exited last time. We will be left with just the lols.

      In that event, the GOP has then been provided with a road map to popularity, which they immediately will tear up and throw away. The Globetrotters win again, Clinton gets on the throne. That’s entertainment too, though of a darker sort.

      Glengarry

      July 26, 2015 at 5:12 AM

      • Yep. Trump has shown the Republicans how they could win, by copying some elements of his economic nationalism, but I can’t imagine the Republicans actually doing it, The donors would never allow it.

        Mike Street Station

        July 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM

  13. Sanders has raised more than any GOP candidate and regularly speaks to huge crowds. Yet the media pumps up Trump, because it is a way to present the antithesis of multiculturalism as hick Southerners.

    swank

    July 25, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    • Yet the media pumps up Trump, because it is a way to present the antithesis of multiculturalism as hick Southerners.

      Really? You think Mr New York Loudmouth symbolizes “hick Southerners”?

      No. They give Trump attention because he is entertaining and many people find him outrageous and he’s a media insider.

      At this point probably O’Malley is the most electable Democrat. Maybe Walker for the Republicans.

      Rifleman

      July 26, 2015 at 12:33 AM

      • The MSM hates Trump, but at the same time they are unable to stop covering him because they crave ratings and need a story.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 26, 2015 at 9:54 AM

      • Yes he does. That is the demographic he appeals to, and really, the demographic that the GOP appeals to.

        as long as any policy or discussion that addresses race can be linked to them, multiculturalism will dominate politics. the former CSA are an extraordinarily stupid (and mean) voting bloc.

        swank

        July 26, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    • Don’t question the inevitability of Hillary!!.

      Glengarry

      July 26, 2015 at 5:13 AM

  14. Listen to his speech today in Iowa. He mentions (briefly) overhauling legal immigration by using a merit based approach. I bet he is very open to reducing legal immigration. He never says otherwise just mentions make the process more efficient, doubt he means for third world peasants when he says this.

    Jake

    July 25, 2015 at 7:45 PM

  15. OT. Lion, not sure if you’ve caught up with this guy who is ruffling feathers amongst the Labour Party establishment (Tony Blair isn’t happy) in Britain and openly praises Karl Marx:

    Appearing on the BBC’s Andrew Marr show, he said Marx, the philosopher behind the idea of international communism, was a great “observer” of human life and society.

    “He was a fascinating figure who observed a great deal and from whom we can learn a great deal,” he said.

    “Marx analysed what was happening in a quite brilliant way. The philosophy around Marx is absolutely fascinating.”

    The surge of support for Mr Corbyn since he entered the race to succeed Ed Miliband has alarmed the Labour establishment, and provoked warnings from Tony Blair and other senior figures against lurching to the Left. …

    “The entryism I see is lots of young people who were hitherto not very excited about politics coming in saying, yeah, we can have a discussion, we can talk about our debts and our housing problems.”

    He said Labour under Mr Miliband was too pro-business and promised to put up corporation tax and restore the 50p top rate of tax for the highest earners if he won power.

    “[Labour] has been too close to big business, it’s been too close to economic orthodoxy. It has been incapable of offering Labour voters and the majority of the electorate a real alternative and that was the fundamental problem in the last general election.”

    A “wealth tax on massive incomes” would also be “a prospect worth doing”, he said.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11763640/Jeremy-Corbyn-Britain-can-learn-from-Karl-Marx.html

    Julian

    July 26, 2015 at 6:45 AM

  16. Evidently Trump’s not all that hot on immigration after all.

    2016 Presidential Hopefuls
    Worker-Protection Immigration Grade Cards
    Assessing immigration stances that affect Americans’ jobs & wages by changing supply of workers.

    I guess one can file it under “If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t.” Rick Santorum’s the guy, on immigration (and has been, I think, all along).

    Trump *is* good on nixing birthright citizenship, though. And that’s not trivial.

    aandrews

    July 26, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    • Santorum is unelectable. He couldn’t even get re-elected to the Senate in his home state.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 26, 2015 at 9:58 AM

      • Together with the NumbersUSA report and Trump’s view on Edward Snowden…I’ve kinda gone instantly lukewarm.

        (BTW, my last comment, that should be “If it’s too good to be true, it probably is,” which, you know, makes much more sense.)

        aandrews

        July 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM

      • What’s going to happen is, the Republicans are going to be shot out of the saddle, again. Trump’s got ’em in a total bind, and they’re going to muck it (because who are they? the stupid party). I *was* looking forward to the collective stroke effect, but it’s going to be one of the commie (if that’s not a slur on commies) Democrats.

        aandrews

        July 26, 2015 at 11:09 AM

  17. If there is one thing that Karl Marx was right about it’s that ultimately the petit bourgeois (lower middle class proles) are ultimately the biggest losers in a usurious capitalist system. These prole whites always then lash out by latching on to a quasi-fascist strong man, who in this case is Donald Trump. That strong-man then channels all of their anger downward toward the minority poor and immigrants who are even bigger losers in the system. This gives them a sense of empowerment as they can look down their noses at someone else. But ultimately it doesn’t change the fact that their jobs are being shipped over seas and they are being nickel and dimed into economic extinction. It also does nothing to change the military/industrial complex that always expands under these types of right wing leaders often to the point of disaster (ie Hitler and the Third Reich). History repeats itself.

    B.T.D.T.

    July 26, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    • Lower middle class proles are the Proletariat and not the Petite Bourgeoisie. The minority poor are the Lumpenproletariat whom Marx didn’t like.

      Trump is what Lenin would have called the vanguard of the proletariat.

      • Then who do you consider to be the petit bourgeois in today’s America? Is it the middle-middle class or the upper-middle class? The reason I categorized lower middle class whites as the petit bourgeois is because they are now the lower rungs of the corporate class and the traditional “middle-middle class” is evaporating.

        B.T.D.T.

        July 26, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    • The mere fact that most people in this country cannot speak a fluent language of a non-3 world origin, besides English spells doom and gloom for much of its citizen, when it comes to an exodus. And the average American is mostly trash in the grander scheme of things. They’re just slightly better than the Slavic Euros in character class, and perhaps in quality of life measures.

      JS

      July 26, 2015 at 10:04 PM

  18. “…quasi-fascist strong man….”

    Interesting.

    Cf. The Intellectual Roots Of The American Left’s Emerging Totalitarianism

    aandrews

    July 26, 2015 at 4:34 PM

  19. A lot of people are saying that if Trump runs third party it will split the republican vote. I hardly think that matters if Jeb Boosh runs. The conservatives and the libertarians both hate Boosh. Who in the GOP would vote for that clown anyway?

    Joshua Sinistar

    July 26, 2015 at 10:40 PM

  20. There is one thing that I do agree with Trump, that nobody is really talking about: He said America is a sh*tty place with rotting 3rd world infrastructure. That says it all!

    JS

    July 27, 2015 at 9:53 PM

  21. Don’t believe this crap about Trump not being supported due to immigration. He’d probably deal on immigration like the others. What really scares the shit out of the Donor Class is he’s a Billionaire and has enough Fuck You money not to need their donations. Can’t you just imagine it? The Koch Bros offer him a cool Million and he tells them,”Look Mr Koch, a Million Dollars is not a lot of money anymore, I spend more on champagne on my yacht.”
    Of course, that crapweasel Karl Rove is sweating too. If he makes it to the caucuses and gets more Hispanic votes than Boosh, his whole soothsaying empire is gonna crash faster than a Microsoft version of the Apple Watch.

    Joshua Sinistar

    July 31, 2015 at 12:54 AM


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