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Martha’s Vineyard utopia

In this NY Times video about Martha’s Vinenard, the Vineyard is describes as a utopia.

Utopia means that there are only rich people around!

You might wonder why there are so many blacks shown in the video. Clearly, the NY Times wants to show that utopia is racially diverse. The reality is that Martha’s Vineyard, despite being known as a vacation destination for elite blacks, is still only 4% black, and the rich blacks who vacation there “self-segregate” in the town of Oak Bluffs.

Although despite that, the Vineyard has had problems with rowdy black college students. I take that article as evidence that upper-middle-class black college students behave worse than upper-middle-class white college students. (Note that the author of the article is a non-tenured black studies professor.)

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 2, 2015 at 12:49 pm

Posted in Bobos, Wealth

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  1. Although despite that, the Vineyard has had problems with rowdy black college students.

    The problem is that blacks attract other blacks. Once a critical number is reached there’s not enough well-behaved blacks to go around.

    Even Freaknik itself started as a small gathering of a few hundred Atlanta-area HBCU students who chose to stay at school instead of go home for Spring Break. Then within 6 years you had 60,000 blacks descending on the streets of Atlanta screwing in the streets, parking on people’s front lawns, leaving their car in the middle of important thoroughfares to have a cookout and film impromptu hip hop videos under the stoplight, or just going to the mall by the thousands and standing there. (yes, literally just loitering there not spending a dime and staring at each other or posturing)


    August 2, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    • You gotta admire their lack-of-fucks-given. If civilized folk had theirs, we wouldn’t have them.

      Abraham Lincoln

      August 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    • Tom Wolfe’s opening chapter of A Man in Full where Freaknik is viewed through the eyes of smart, educated, stuck-in-traffic black lawyer Roger White II is hilarious. I had not heard of Freaknik prior to reading the book but when I visited Atlanta a few months later I walked over to the Piedmont Driving Club for the express purpose of figuring out the logistics of how to moon someone on the terrace from the middle of Piedmont Ave (I think Wolfe took some artistic license here. The visibility is not as good as is implied.)

      Jokah Macpherson

      August 2, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    • Hahahaa…I know about this.

      Lion of the Judah-sphere

      August 2, 2015 at 6:59 pm

  2. As one of your commentator here has said: Our elites are mostly anti-intellectual, and I view most of them as pure utilitarian, low class money junkies, whose lifestyle is no different from the welfare leech, who entertains himself as 1st priority, at the expense of the tax payer’s welfare subsidies. The elites are just a more self-controlled version of the lumpen/proletariat hedonist. Given the more jovial nature and low future time orientation of blacks, it’s understandable that they are inherently more pleasure induced, which also means, they are more likely to engage in rowdy behavior.

    A HBD view of Meriprolestan asserts that assimilating blacks into the White bourgeois culture is against their primal profile that has evolved over the centuries in Africa. They however, are able to influence other races with a wild disposition, similar to what we call prole drifting. If Whites and East Asians want to coexist peacefully with blacks, there are only 2 options, either you get away from them, or assimilate into their opposing values.


    August 2, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    • You do NOT want assimilate into that. If you can’t avoid them then there’s a 3rd option called “ghosting”. It’s a dating term but it’s kind of the same principle. It’s what I did when I was bussed to the projects. Basically, I went to school, went to class, even played sports. I did everything I was supposed to do. But I didn’t hang out with, socialize or even talk to them. If someone tried to talk to me I wouldn’t ignore them or be rude but I kept it at a minimum and didn’t engage.


      August 2, 2015 at 8:57 pm

      • The browning of Meriprolestan is becoming a trend, as with prole drifting. I see a lot of Whites, and also East Asians in rising numbers, intermarrying with blacks. None of this is of any concern, if we are honest about our standards. Given the dumbing down effect of this country, which has done a good job, then NAMfication and prole drifting of this country is not an issue.


        August 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    • They however, are able to influence other races with a wild disposition, similar to what we call prole drifting.

      cultural influence can only go in one direction, apparently.


      August 3, 2015 at 2:58 pm

      • Another wank wank!


        August 3, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      • JS do you live near blacks? your response may as well have been “HAND.”


        August 3, 2015 at 9:42 pm

      • There are plenty of blacks in NYC for one to observe with a HBD viewpoint.


        August 4, 2015 at 12:28 pm

      • that is to say, the racist viewpoint. i don’t disagree!


        August 4, 2015 at 2:09 pm

  3. Martha’s Vineyard symbolizes the hypocrisy of the liberal establishment. As much as liberals claim to want an egalitarian society, what they really want is an aristocracy with themselves at the helm, and the Vineyard is their Camelot by-the-sea. Like every other left wing enclave (Portland, Burlington, etc) there are hardly any minorities there at all. Apparently these towns are for the nobles and not the peasants.

    I have been to Martha’s Vineyard twice and honestly don’t know what the fuss is about anyway. It is way overrated.


    August 2, 2015 at 3:01 pm

  4. “Utopia means that there are only rich people around!”

    Utopia means there aren’t any blacks around. Even blacks in the article thought so. They just weren’t smart enough to realize the reason everything was so pleasant and peaceful was they were so few. Of course, they complained there weren’t enough other blacks there. But when they got a lot of blacks and it turned rowdy they blamed the problem on “latent racism” instead. Blacks make everyone miserable including themselves.


    August 2, 2015 at 3:15 pm

  5. PLENTY of upper middle class white kids behave badly on vacation.


    August 2, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    • This is very true. I know a story from this past Spring Break of a drunk white male who jumped off a balcony and nearly killed himself, along with someone else.

      Lion of the Judah-sphere

      August 2, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      • When whites behave badly they get drunk and do stupid things. They might even damage some property. But they usually don’t commit violent crimes. Would you rather be the victim of vandalism or aggravated assault?


        August 3, 2015 at 6:42 am

      • Yesterday, I was crossing the street and came across a car with all its windows open, where its driver and passengers were all proles, shouting “Let’s go Giants, wooo hoooo!”, as in the football team. I took a quick glance at them, reminding myself that these are proles whom I’m looking at, and one of them looked at me, and shouted “What da f*ck are lookin at, u d*ckhead!” I was smart enough to ignore them, and the car just zipped quickly away.


        August 3, 2015 at 12:30 pm

      • JS — How many stitches did your ego require after that brutal “beating”?


        August 5, 2015 at 6:37 pm

  6. I have always liked Nantucket better than the Vineyard, although I usually go to Block Island myself.


    August 2, 2015 at 5:23 pm

  7. The Wampanoag Tribe of Indians is trying to get permission to build a casino on Martha’s Vineyard. I wonder what effect that will have if it goes through.

    Black Death

    August 2, 2015 at 6:08 pm

  8. The whitest video I’ve EVER seen is the Martha’s Vineyard live 80s version of Carly Simon’s ‘You’re So Vain’:

    This will probably auto-embed, but it’s on topic and I recommend watching.


    August 2, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    • Great video, thanks.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 2, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    • The whitest video I’ve EVER seen is the Martha’s Vineyard live 80s version of Carly Simon’s ‘You’re So Vain’

      Carly Simon has black ancestry on her mother’s side.

      Try some 1970s ABBA videos for title of “Whitest”.


      August 2, 2015 at 8:47 pm

      • Oh great now Rifleman thinks he’s a genealogy expert.


        August 3, 2015 at 12:40 pm

      • “Carly Simon has black ancestry on her mother’s side.”
        Link please?

        “Carly Simon was born in New York City. Her father was Richard L. Simon (co-founder of Simon & Schuster),[16] a pianist who often played Chopin and Beethoven at home. Her mother was Andrea Louise Simon (née Heinemann),[17] a civil rights activist and singer. Her father was from a German Jewish family, while her mother was of Swiss German-Jewish and Spanish-Catholic descent.[18]”

        Nedd Ludd

        August 3, 2015 at 1:40 pm

  9. Sort of OT, but this NYT wedding announcement was written for LotB.

    NYT, 08/02/15 – Elaine Wong, Christian Littlejohn

    Elaine Yan-Yu Wong and Christian Emerson Littlejohn were married Saturday. The Rev. Daniel Sweeney, a Roman Catholic priest, performed the ceremony at the Church of St. Francis Xavier in New York.

    The bride and groom met at the University of Pennsylvania, from which they received M.B.A. degrees, the groom with honors. The bride, 29, works in the investment banking division of Goldman Sachs in New York, where she is an associate in the leveraged finance group. She graduated cum laude from Princeton. She is a daughter of Choi-Ling Li and Sunny S. Wong of New Hyde Park, N.Y. The bride’s father works in New York as a principal technical-consulting engineer with AT&T.

    The groom, 33, is an analyst at Wingspan Investment Management in New York. He graduated summa cum laude from Dartmouth. He also received a master’s in financial economics from Oxford and a law degree, cum laude, from Penn. He is a son of Marilyn D. Littlejohn of Mendon, N.Y., and Dr. Rodney D. Littlejohn of Victor, N.Y. The groom’s father is an orthodontist in Waterloo, N.Y.

    E. Rekshun

    August 2, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    • Strange. Flyover folks of that educational and professional pedigree would have markedly better teeth. These are DINK MBA’s for crying out loud. One of his incisors is off color and her teeth are irregular.

      Note, I don’t personally fault them for this.


      August 3, 2015 at 3:55 am

      • It appears to me that Northeasterners seem to be less intellectual inclined than those who are college educated in flyover, given the type of education they pursue in value transference to suit their expensive lifestyle and the high cost of living, which is prole. Anything in finance is prole and vocational. Most college educated people whom I’ve come across from flyover sort of had self actualizing tendencies, whether it’s speaking a foreign language, taking up philosophy or studying religion.

        But flyover is prolier, perhaps they are fewer individuals percentage wise who are in college. The lower cost of living would be more conducive to such intellectual leanings.

        What a strange world we live in, and Merirpolestanis are rather incurious, for a country of theirs in size and scope!


        August 3, 2015 at 9:19 pm

      • JS, this is one of your most perceptive, non-personal-attack comments I’ve read so far.


        August 4, 2015 at 12:44 pm

      • In regards to higher education in the Northeast vs Flyover, the students at the prestigious Ivy Leagues and the nearby top tier schools are 1st priority careerists, with aspirations of striving or maintaining an upper middle class lifestyle by embarking on a value transference industry. They don’t care about learning for its own sake. Flyover students seem to take a more active interest in intellectual pursuits, but the overall lower percentage of students enrolling in college in the region, gives off a perception that the Midwest is prolier, when in fact, many status conscious, Northeasterners are just as prolish, because they lack an intellectual curiosity. So one group seemingly lacks the resources or know how to attend college, and the other refuse to cultivate their learning habits at the prestigious institutions.


        August 4, 2015 at 2:12 pm

      • “They don’t care about learning for its own sake. Flyover students seem to take a more active interest in intellectual pursuits”

        Having attended both an Ivy League school and a school in flyover country (Arizona State University), I ASSURE you that you have that completely backwards.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      • Not fair for you to compare a state school that is minimally flyover (Arizona is South West). Brigham Young in Utah is a fairly intellectual school, more so than many of those located here in the Northeast. No one goes to Brigham Young to become a Wall St Financier or a Google Technocrat, let alone, a field in sales or operations, one of those low status prole positions, that flyovers are known to work in.

        Harvey Mansfield, author of several books of Machiavelli, thinks the University of Chicago is more intellectual than the careerist and value transference oriented, Harvard, and he deems it the most intellectual school. I presume he is only talking about the schools in the US.


        August 4, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      • “But flyover is prolier, perhaps they are fewer individuals percentage wise who are in college. The lower cost of living would be more conducive to such intellectual leanings”

        I think JS is right about this. But I think Lion may be misunderstanding what he’s saying. It isn’t that MOST students at lower-tier colleges are intellectual (I can assure you they aren’t just from having attended one!) it’s that most students at any college are not going to be intellectuals. The majority of people of all social classes are in college for career training of some kind. And “the life of the mind” is something that no college or even high school can instill in you. If you aren’t this type of person at say 13 or 14 its unlikely that you will be turned into an intellectual by any school. Also, to some extent there is an inverse relationship between being able to satisfy intellectual curiosity and being an elite student/honor student. School requires that you stay within the box (and I don’t mean this in a negative sense.) You have to take certain courses, read certain books, etc.. Intellectuals like to explore a topic that interests them and get obsessed with it. And you don’t have the time to do this if your focused on your GPA and your career. Of course it is possible to do extensive and even brilliant work/research in an area and still be a top student overall, but it’s difficult. It’s trying to serve two masters. JS has a point that the more relaxed prole life is in some ways more conducive to being an intellectual. This might not have been true throughout most of history, but it would be now that we have free public libraries and the internet.

        Of course, I’m talking here about high school and the general undergraduate curriculum, not grad school where you are meant to spend your time in one academic discipline.


        August 4, 2015 at 5:05 pm

      • The Northeast is all about money, which is not conducive to intellectualism and the self actualization process. The person living in Stuyvesant Town, Manhattan, paying $3,500 for a 1 bed room apartment, afforded by his Goldman Sachs job, is prolier than the academic researcher of Mormonism in Utah, who makes a paltry annual salary of $25K at the university.


        August 4, 2015 at 8:24 pm

      • College students, living in a dorm, their parents paying for it, don’t have to think about the price of an apartment in Manhattan.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2015 at 11:44 pm

    • Is he Beta for marrying an Asian woman?



      August 4, 2015 at 7:03 am

      • Yes, and he looks beta.


        August 4, 2015 at 12:47 pm

  10. Martha’s Vineyard == Elysium


    August 3, 2015 at 9:53 am

  11. Looks like a classier version of coastal maine in the summer.

    slithy toves

    August 4, 2015 at 8:31 am

    • Coastal Maine is traditionally considered, insofar as the last couple of centuries are concerned, the getaway of choice for the TOOS class. The Vineyard was more for the more vulgar Eastern upper middle / upper, who likely couldn’t stray as far from work or readily see the difference in travel expense and time as a non-issue. Also, privacy likely wasn’t and isn’t as large an issue for them.


      August 4, 2015 at 11:27 am

      • You make a good point. Islesboro, Maine is TOOS territory, when comparing to the prolier Vineyard, and especially, the low class Hamptons.


        August 4, 2015 at 12:51 pm

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