Lion of the Blogosphere

John Paul George Ringo

I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt that read:


And then I wondered, at what age would people read that and think “who the hell are they?” Or are the Fab Four so fab that they transcend all generations?

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I should add that the guy wearing the t-shirt was probably not old enough to be alive when John was assassinated.

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August 7, 2015 at 3:01 pm

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  1. Leave out Ringo and nobody would know what your shirt is getting at. Apart from a boomer or two, I suppose.


    August 7, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    • Another beta millennial male, trying to act cool, by being retro?

      There’s so many of them, nowadays!


      August 7, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    • Make it John, Paul, George, Albert Goldman and Ringo. Or John, Paul, George, Clarence and Ringo. Either of those would throw them off.


      August 8, 2015 at 2:59 pm

  2. the beatles transcend. others that transcend: elvis. marilyn. audrey hepburn. james dean. michael “smooth pedophile criminal” jackson.


    August 7, 2015 at 4:03 pm

  3. I actually thought you were referring to one man, John G. P. Ringo. I was wondering who he was.


    August 7, 2015 at 4:07 pm

  4. The beatles originated in 1960: 55 years ago.

    They must be transcending.


    August 7, 2015 at 4:24 pm

  5. That is a blast from the past.

    Nirvana tees are to Millennials what Beatles shirts were to Gen Xers.


    August 7, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    • The guy wearing the t-shirt was probably not alive when John Lennon was assassinated.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 7, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    • “Nirvana tees are to Millennials what Beatles shirts were to Gen Xers.”

      Which was what? Identification with the most recently departed good band? Signaling musical class and separating oneself from the One-Direction and Backstreet Boys tee shirt wearers?


      August 7, 2015 at 6:49 pm

      • lol @ backstreet boys tee shirt wearers

        they don’t exist dude

        if they did they’d just be smartass hipsters being ironic-ironic

        james n.s.w

        August 7, 2015 at 11:16 pm

  6. The Beatles arrived in the United States to great fanfare in 1964, which means the teen girls who shrieked and swooned at their shows are now in their middle to late 60’s.
    On similar notes:
    The youngest of the hippies who dropped acid and cavorted nekkid at Woodstock are in their early 60’s. Anyone who had any meaningful understanding of JFK’s assassination when it happened would have to be at least 60. To people under their early 50’s the Vietnam War is something you read about in history class. Under 30? The entire concept of the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall is largely meaningless.
    No real point, I was just thinking about these things because of your post and because today is a family member’s 30th birthday.



    August 7, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    • There’s an interesting documentary called Hippie Masala about 1960s druggies who wandered over to India- and remained. Most were pushing 60 by the time of filming. Two were jungle ascetics. Two more were family men who married Indian women. And two aging, wine swilling sisters design beachwear in Goa.

      Apparently back in the day Afghanistan was to go-to point for hardcore hippies looking for a transcendental drug experience. Can you imagine that happening now?

      Another good documentary about the counter cultural era is “The Source Family.” More than one ex-member of the cult went on to become tech millionaires.

      slithy toves

      August 7, 2015 at 6:07 pm

  7. They’ll be household names among white Westerners for at least another 100 years, like Back, Beethoven and Mozart. Probably quite a bit longer than that.


    August 7, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    • It’s funny that you qualified that with “white”. It’s true most black Americans couldn’t care less about the Beatles.

      Lion of the Judah-sphere

      August 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm

  8. The Beatles were very popular with teenagers when I was one. I remember a father of my friend’s saying that it seems every ten years or so they have a big popularity resurgence with young people.


    August 7, 2015 at 6:11 pm

  9. I was in a bookstore recently that had “I Want to Hold Your Hand” playing in the store. There were a couple of teenage girls standing next to me and one said to the other “Hey listen, it’s Buddy Holly!”.


    August 7, 2015 at 6:36 pm

  10. I keep running into twenty-somethings who are massive 60s rock fans, Beatles, Stones, Hendrix and Zeppelin in particular. At a local brewpub Jerry Miller comes in and plays occasionally. He attracts twenty-somethings as well as aging boomers. Here’s Miller singing 805 on the Mike Douglas show.


    August 7, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    • Beatles are basically Les Beta, per Keith Richards, who branded them as effeminate guys, who couldn’t get any women, relatively comparing to the bloody Stones.


      August 7, 2015 at 7:15 pm

      • Don’t know what you are talking about. Beatles had more tail than any man living should ever have a right to. Stones were totally intimidated by the Beatles. John would laugh at their hard man blues pretensions. He would refer to Mick as a “fag dancer”. Beatles never took themselves that seriously.


        August 7, 2015 at 8:01 pm

      • Which is a weird comment coming from a guy who was the monogamous one, comparatively, in the Stones and who regularly called Mick Jagger Miss Nancy because of Mick’s effeminate behavior. Lennon also called Jagger ‘faggy’ (see below). The real satyr in the Stones was Bill Wyman who had a taste for very young women. Compare Richards’ comment to this description of the first Beatles tour: “John Lennon spoke about this during the “Lennon Remembers” interview in 1970. He said, “The Beatles tours were like the Fellini film “Satyricon.” We had that image. Man, our tours were like something else, if you could get on our tours, you were in. They were “Satyricon,” all right.” Fellini’s Satyricon was a film that was released in 1969 and was full of orgies and wild sex.


        August 7, 2015 at 8:01 pm

      • Which reminds me, all my life I thought it utterly amazing that there were no high profile paternity cases against any of the Beatles that I know of. There must have been some awesome payoffs going on. Absolutely Kennedyesque.

        Mrs Stitch

        August 7, 2015 at 9:25 pm

      • Phillip Howarth, born in 1963 to Anita Cochrane a Liverpool Beatles fan who was Paul McCartney’s girlfriend during the period 9 mos previous. She has said they slept together and Paul confirms. This is why entertainers have agents.


        August 8, 2015 at 12:29 am

      • Watch Mick Jagger suck up to John Lennon on the “Rolling Stones’ Rock & Roll Circus”

        Pretty clear who the beta was in this relationship.

        Peter Akuleyev

        August 8, 2015 at 3:44 am

      • Well, here’s a reason why the Stones are Alpha = Still rocking as a band, and still fornicating at their senility.


        August 8, 2015 at 11:51 am

    • I liked big band music when I was in my 20s, so this kind of makes sense.


      August 8, 2015 at 2:55 pm

  11. Beatles’ music is pretty good, they were talented, but the words are stupid, or am I missing something? What’s the meaning of ‘I’m a walrus chuki-ruki-chu’?


    August 7, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    • Short songs with meaningless lyrics, yes.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 7, 2015 at 7:39 pm

      • Lennon was big fan of Lewis Carrol who wrote surreal children’s books and poems including Through the Looking Glass (1871) which is where the poem The Walrus and the Carpenter appears.


        August 7, 2015 at 8:09 pm

      • For a pop act, the Beatles often wrote fairly decent lyrics, especially Paul. “Eleanor Rigby” is probably one of the most concise and elegant treatments of loneliness and wasted life in the pop canon. “A day in the Life” is good too. Ray Davies was probably the best lyricist of the era, followed by Townsend, but the Beatles were well ahead of most of their contemporaries.

        Peter Akuleyev

        August 8, 2015 at 4:26 am

      • You give them too much credit. They were degenerate bastard.

        Pretty much worthless.


        August 9, 2015 at 11:39 pm

    • I think it had something to do with LSD and New Age and Indian gurus. You know how old people can get.


      August 8, 2015 at 4:57 am

  12. Retro band t-shirts are popular right now and some people don’t know what they are wearing. I approached a girl wearing a band t-shirt a couple months ago saying I liked her shirt and asked her about the band. She said she didn’t know who they were and she just liked the shirt.

    That said everyone, even teenagers, know the Beatles. The boomers in the media still won’t stop talking about them and Paul McCartney has been collaborating with Kanye West recently.


    August 7, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    • I had an experience like that when I was basketball junkie in the ’90s. I needed a t-shirt quickly for a game so I ran into Goodwill and bought one that read, “Skankin’ Pickle.” Then in the game, some guy asked me if I was into Ska, and I had no idea what he was talking about.


      August 7, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    • yeah that is true. there was a guy I used to know who wore a ramones t-shirt and I asked him if he liked the band and he told me he didn’t even know who they were.

      james n.s.w

      August 7, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    • Today I saw a teen boy wearing a Pink Floyd T-shirt. I don’t think I ever see anyone wear T-shirts of current rock bands.

      Jay Fink

      August 8, 2015 at 1:49 am

      • Yes, and wearing T-shirts of rock bands isn’t a SWPL thing, which means you know what!


        August 8, 2015 at 12:28 pm

      • Are there current rock bands?


        August 9, 2015 at 11:54 pm

  13. A relative of mine, born around 1930 but still going reasonably strong, has a wonderful story illustrating the passage of time and links to the past.
    She was at a Fourth of July parade in either 1940 or 1941 that featured a procession of Veterans of past wars. First came the World War I veterans, most in early middle age, marching along at a snappy pace. Following them were veterans of the Spanish-American War of 1898, most of whom would have been in their sixties. They marched along too, at a somewhat slower pace than the WWI veterans, with a few of them using canes.
    Next came a handful of elderly men who had fought the Indians on the western frontier in the 1880’s. They were being pushed along in wheelchairs, except for one who slowly but proudly walked. Finally, the stars of the parade, were two very, very old men who rode in the back seat of an open-topped car. You can figure out what war they were from.



    August 7, 2015 at 8:24 pm

  14. If Ringo wasn’t included in that list, I would have assumed it was talking about Pope John Paul II and President George Bush II.

    Vietnam was was taught to us Millennials as “the bad war”, and no history post-Vietnam was taught to us until college.

    The Soviet Union wasn’t really covered in classes, other than as being one of our WWII allies.

    Anonymous Bro

    August 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm

  15. And of course, Gen-X women had Bettie Page (GI generation, b. 1923) as a icon, and the Millennials have Marilyn Monroe (Silent, b. 1926.) What 1930s or 1940s-born sex symbol will be iconic for women of the next generation?


    August 7, 2015 at 9:28 pm

  16. in case other design nerds care. well actually if you are design nerd you probably already know this:

    “Amsterdam design studio Experimental Jetset claims the first iteration of the style, a John & Paul & Ringo & George tee in 2001”


    August 8, 2015 at 1:26 am

  17. For those who weren’t around then it must be hard to fathom just how hugely popular and influential the Beatles were, or how radical a change they made in their musical style, sensibility, and appearance in a very short time (1964-67). And if you go by the orthodox definition they were Silents, not Boomers, as were the great majority of the musical and cultural movers and shakers of the 1960’s.

    Ripple Earthdevil

    August 8, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    • Indeed.

      The silent generation is anything but silent. Consider Hillary Clinton going off to Wellesley College an avid republican and turned around by her Silent generation professors is a mere two years. She came out of there a brainwashed idiot. She went in overly energetic and self-important and left with all that energy channelled into destructive pursuits. The Republicans could have got that generation on their side by being rationally and nationally on the side of this nation’s youth who didn’t want to be sent into a freaking meat grinder.

      not too late

      August 9, 2015 at 10:50 am

      • The Silent Generation got that name in the early ’50s. The GIs who fought WW2 were taking over institutions. One war veteran, a historian named William Manchester, noted that the new crop of college graduates, who were too young to fight in the war, were “withdrawn, cautious, unimaginative, indifferent, unad­venturous and silent.”

        By the ’60s, that label was becoming irrelevant as members of the Silent started leading movements for civil rights, feminism, and more.


        August 9, 2015 at 11:54 pm

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