Lion of the Blogosphere

Sock puppetry

Sock puppets are very powerful because humans value social proof and highly desire to be part of a crowd, while being ostracized is a very negative feeling.

As I said in a previous post, four sock puppets agreeing on some issue is far more convincing than putting a lot of effort into writing posts with logical arguments (which hardly anyone will read).

Sock puppets can be very useful if you are just starting a new blog, because commenting on your own posts under a pseudonym creates the illusion that people are reading your blog, and people would rather read a popular blog than an unknown blog. (I have never used a sock puppet on this blog, because I’m too lazy.)

Sock puppets are very valuable if you’re an author with a book on Amazon. Writing a few favorable reviews of a new book can spur sales. It’s the social proof thing.

I also imagine that sock puppets could be very useful on FaceBook for creating the illusion that you are more popular, which in turn would make you more popular in reality because people will like you more on account of the social proofl.

The CIA understands the power of sock puppets. According to this article in The Guardian:

The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.

A Californian corporation has been awarded a contract with United States Central Command (Centcom), which oversees US armed operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, to develop what is described as an “online persona management service” that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.

The project has been likened by web experts to China’s attempts to control and restrict free speech on the internet. Critics are likely to complain that it will allow the US military to create a false consensus in online conversations, crowd out unwelcome opinions and smother commentaries or reports that do not correspond with its own objectives.

In my previous post advising use of sock puppets to spread the truth of HBD, the commenter Yakov said that it was “despicable.” But if our own government is doing it, why is it despicable for private citizens doing it for a good cause?

Of course, people who manage online sites know about sock puppets and don’t want them. FaceBook has very strict policies against fake accounts so my advice is to be very very cautious about using FaceBook that way if you don’t want your real account to be terminated, and then you would be cut off from all of your friends.

And I don’t want people using sock puppets on my blog, so here’s a warning that I will no longer tolerate people posting under multiple pseudonyms and I will start calling people out for doing that.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 7, 2015 at 9:36 AM

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  1. Social psychologists, advertisers, and behavioral economists have long known the power of social proof. Now Internet marketers are using it to full effect in the form of sock puppets. Most people join in on something just because they see others doing it. It creates a false reality, because most people don’t base their sense of reality on actual reality, but on what they think others believe.

    This also applies to dating. When girls see me with other girls, they automatically assume I’m okay and not a creep, just because of what other girls think.

    Lion of the Judah-sphere (not a sock puppet of Pumpkin Person)

    September 7, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    • I don’t see any evidence that you are a sock puppet.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 7, 2015 at 9:59 AM

      • Thank, I’m just paranoid because I’ve been accused of being such in the past (by multiple individuals, actually).

        Lion of the Judah-sphere (not a sock puppet of Pumpkin Person)

        September 7, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    • I’ve always enjoyed showing this to demonstrate how much people will deny reality in order to conform.

      Lion of the Judah-sphere (not a sock puppet of Pumpkin Person)

      September 7, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    • I’ve heard of unmarried guys wearing wedding rings for that reason.


      September 7, 2015 at 11:06 AM

  2. I’ve always suspected certain commenters of being sock puppets


    September 7, 2015 at 9:55 AM

    • Jorge Videla is the biggest offender, with his line of mustached tyrants!


      September 7, 2015 at 10:11 PM

      • Jorge Videla, Rafael, Trujillo, First Ypres, Robert Mugabe, Duke of Leinster, krupp sphere, what else?

        Lion of the Judah-sphere

        September 8, 2015 at 9:01 PM

      • They are gone because I no longer allow that person to comment. Hopefully he stays gone.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 8, 2015 at 9:20 PM

  3. I know of a particular professor of English at a toilet flyover public U whose tome has three Amazon reviews. One is obviously written by him, and the other two are obviously written by his pliable research assistants. Five stars all around.

    gold eagles, 30-06 shells, and SPAM are the currency of tomorrow!

    September 7, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    • I noticed many academics at the prolier institutions, are reflective of their lesser prestige and rank. Professors who work for the top tier schools, tend to be more finesse individuals.


      September 7, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    • A colleague of mine had numerous positive reviews on ratemyprofessor, even though our students rarely used the site. Also, all of the entries sounded pretty much the same. More beloved colleagues had far fewer reviews, which had greater variation in length and commentary.


      September 8, 2015 at 2:39 AM

    • I’ve seen well written, and often IMO accurate, criticisms of professors deleted on ratemyprofessors.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 8, 2015 at 7:03 PM

  4. facebook/social media sockpuppets are usually far too transparent though. i knew a girl who was an extreme narcissist and aspiring internet star who paid for sockpuppets to comment on her facebook feed. every post she would make would be inundated with approving and fawning comments, all from subcontinental indians. it was obvious they were working for an agency that she was paying for likes.

    james n.s.w

    September 7, 2015 at 10:38 AM

  5. There’s been a lot of reporting on the talents of the Putin government with this sort of thing. The Kremlin specifically targets websites they consider receptive to pro-Russian, anti-American spin and try to flood their comments sections with sock puppetry. Apparently they target a lot of alt-right sites, which would make sense, because I feel like I’ve been hearing a lot more pro-Russian stuff from those corners these days.


    September 7, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    • “The Kremlin specifically targets websites they consider receptive to pro-Russian, anti-American spin and try to flood their comments sections with sock puppetry.”

      Agreed. And frankly, there is a lot to like about Russia and about Putin in particular. But the Russian agit-prop people are stuck in a 60s era mentality about civil rights etc. Sites like Russia Today will blast away at American military adventurism all over the globe, but then they will turn around and run bed-wetting pieces about how the poor blacks and immigrants are discriminated against in racist America. This is the same agit-prop that the KGB used for decades, as they were behind much of the “anti-racism” in America. But they don’t realize that their most receptive audience in America is totally against this kind of nonsense.


      September 7, 2015 at 11:05 AM

      • There are many minor aspects and details to like, but when it comes to the big picture, it’s the rule of criminal oligarchy that has usurped the national wealth. Their property should be nationalized and the themselves should be exterminated. They had stolen everything they have and should die. Most of the members of Russian parliament are millions, I understand that a million dollars is not a lot of money, but still. Putin did well by taking the Crimea, but let Russia down by failing to take all Russian speaking areas of Ukraine.


        September 7, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    • Half of the articles on The Unz Review (not written by Steve Sailer, Razib Khan and Peter Frost) are really bizarre, pro-Putin gobbledygook. I worked in Azerbaijan last year (which during that time placed itself into the Russian sphere of influence again) and I was consistently amazed by how so many of the articles matched the Putinist agitprop coming out of Azerbaijan at the time. I can’t say anything about the loyalties of the authors, but such a place would be ideal for Russian sockpuppets to run amok.


      September 8, 2015 at 9:41 AM

  6. One of the original social proof moments in America was in “Tom Sawyer” when Tom convinces the other kids to paint the fence for him, because he makes them think that only a special person can paint it properly: “I reckon there ain’t one boy in a thousand, maybe two thousand, that can do it the way it’s got to be done.”

    In those simpler days, they all fall for it. Tom Sawyer was Mark Zuckerberg in short pants.

    I’ve been accused of being a sock puppet for other somewhat conservative commenters on very Liberal sites. Even though there isn’t anything remotely similar in our writing styles, I get accused because they really can’t imagine that TWO people might not be in lockstep with the Narrative.

    Another thing about online commenting — particularly when it comes to voicing sputtering rage at the latest enemy of the moment — is that it makes you feel like you’re part of a community. Let’s all act outraged over Donald Trump’s latest remark! How fun!

    This feeling of instantly belonging is very addictive to people, especially SJW types who are little narcissists. Over here on the dissident side I think there is a similar dynamic at work, but for us it’s more huddling together in the face of overwhelming power focused against us. It’s the men-in-the-foxhole feeling of brotherhood in a lost cause rather than the giddy feeling of running with the victorious mob.


    September 7, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    • I would argue that members of all parts of the political spectrum are prone to mood affiliation and herd mentality.

      Lion of the Judah-sphere

      September 7, 2015 at 3:29 PM

      • I agree


        September 7, 2015 at 7:28 PM

      • I agree. Sophisticated/believable sock-puppetry is harder than it seems.

        Chad Winklebottom

        September 7, 2015 at 8:49 PM

      • I agree as well, and it makes me feel good to find so much agreement.


        September 8, 2015 at 2:41 AM

  7. I’ve never done this, but I don’t see the harm as long as the commenter/puppet uses a single profile per thread/post. In other words, who cares if profile Bill Clinton’s Cigar for one post becomes profile Oprah Winfrey’s Dress for another?


    September 7, 2015 at 11:10 AM

  8. I like funny sock puppets like the ones at Ace. It isn’t always maliciously intended.

    A few years ago I tried to create a different account at Facebook, and it wasn’t easy at all. They run you through a ringer if they suspect you’re not real or already have an account. (Then I figured out I could create the business pages I wanted without going through that.)

    Mrs Stitch

    September 7, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    • …also, yesterday Jonah Goldberg was whining on Twitter that he should never read the comments to his posts. I wanted to tell him commenters were the best thing on the net! But it seemed like rubbing it in, not my style. I never go to NRO Corner anymore.

      It’s got to bother the media that their readers are so vocal and outta control now. Commenters are anonymous! You don’t know who they are! The nerve! lol

      Mrs Stitch

      September 7, 2015 at 11:36 AM

      • Goldberg is getting really pilloried on twitter and comments on his pieces for his anti-Trumpism. He thinks Trump supporters are insane for abandoning most of the conservative agenda for a guy who likes single payer. He’s very much a Blue Pill Conservative who doesn’t get that his version of Conservatism has been defeated resoundingly by pop culture and immigration.

        Mike Street Station

        September 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM

      • Goldberg, who imagines himself to be the gatekeeper to conservative respectability, should worry about comments to his posts. People don’t tend to like self-appointed gatekeepers.


        September 7, 2015 at 1:49 PM

      • It’s funny, because while comments on some sites (i.e.: YouTube and Facebook) are genuinely awful, I do find, as a general rule, that comments on news/politics sites/blogs are generally as good as the quality of writing and thought that go into the postings themselves. I certainly wouldn’t spend as much time as I do on this blog if not for the comments. So this “ALWAYS IGNORE COMMENTS” meme has always seemed odd to me. It’s like saying “ignore all websites” because some websites are terrible.


        September 7, 2015 at 2:39 PM

  9. Well, no one will ever accuse “maryk” of being a sock puppet. I’m too atypical of the other posters here (some would say too weird!) to be anyone else’s alias.


    September 7, 2015 at 11:42 AM

  10. I agree with your post, Lion.


    September 7, 2015 at 12:11 PM

  11. And I don’t want people using sock puppets on my blog, so here’s a warning that I will no longer tolerate people posting under multiple pseudonyms and I will start calling people out for doing that.

    Does anyone have any theories about which accounts are sock puppets? The previous post had a comment thread about JS possibly being one which makes this post seem possibly to be related.

    Lloyd Llewellyn

    September 7, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    • JS has also posted under the pseudonym “Just Speculating”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 7, 2015 at 1:11 PM

      • Or, as I like to refer to him, “Just Ejaculating.”

        E. Rekshun

        September 7, 2015 at 2:08 PM

      • I do recall around 4 years ago you ended a post with “just speculating”. I have no idea what you were speculating about. I suppose the user “Just Speculating” is a satiric name based on that post. Just speculating.


        September 8, 2015 at 4:03 PM

    • JS’s posts are too idiosyncratic for him to easily sockpuppet. He’s almost like Whiskey.

      Lion of the Judah-sphere

      September 7, 2015 at 3:31 PM

  12. @LotB: FaceBook has very strict policies against fake accounts so my advice is to be very very cautious about using FaceBook…

    I only use FaceBook, and only under a pseudonym but with actual pictures, to meet attractive women for discreet interludes. I have yet to set up a real FaceBook account, and probably never will.

    E. Rekshun

    September 7, 2015 at 2:03 PM

  13. Singer Moby recommended sock puppetry as a way to embarrass the right. He wanted his followers to fill online comments with racist hate, to blame the right for it. So now when I see racist drivel on comments sections, I can never be sure if it’s really someone from the right as they claim, or a Moby.

    Mike Street Station

    September 7, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    • my feminist friends and i do that with manosphere sites all the time, i remember a few years back, we got this one small time blogger in dallas to secretly agree with something especially egregious one of the sock puppets said and he ended up getting a visit from the police lol.


      September 14, 2015 at 12:34 AM

  14. This is the MO of the JIDF. They seem very effective.


    September 7, 2015 at 3:24 PM

  15. Sock puppetry is an inefficient way to manipulate social media and popular opinion. a) it’s difficult to execute convincingly and b) it’s time consuming. A far more effective ploy would be to rig likes/ dislikes or upvotes/ downvotes. This could be done easily via bots, doesn’t involve human sounding compositions, and depending on the site will effectively erase whatever opinion you’re trying to quash (many sites “hide” unpopular submissions, ad/or shadowban “unpopular” users). In line with social proof when readers see that zillions of people “like” something vs “disliking” it they will be prone to agree with whatever is liked, with the inverse following suit. It’s a virtual colosseum where the life of the thinker is determined via thumbs up or thumbs down (Rome is the masses).

    slithy toves

    September 7, 2015 at 6:20 PM

  16. For a moment I thought this post was going to be about TV and movie puppetry.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    September 7, 2015 at 7:14 PM

  17. Trump needs to utilize the power of social proof to put him over the top. Not just with sock puppets but real and respectable people. He should start running ads with sports stars and military personnel telling voters to “Make America Great Again”. I saw that Chuck Yeager recently came out as a supporter. A few more American hero types like him would be a good start.

    The negation of social proof has always been used effectively against the right. Liberal media like the NYT always dismiss patriotic/populist movements as being for the uneducated. Right on cue they have done the same to Trump by making it look like all of his supporters are rubes and rednecks. This isn’t true at all. I know a lot of very successful rich and middle class people who are Trump supporters but are afraid to come out socially for fear of being looked down on. In private they are very vocal supporters. Trump needs more social proof to muster courage within his supporters.


    September 7, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    • That Trump is seeing such a groundswell of support can only be viewed as a measure of how far the GOP have fallen since the postwar period. It is no accident that Charles Koch, at his recent summit for prospective GOP presidential contenders, discussed in depth the need for the party to move away from corporate welfare and towards a more principled path that would provide genuine, concrete incentives for Americans to vote it back into power. Alas, I am afraid that the war has already structurally been lost; the party’s major constituents too addicted to various forms of favorable short-term tax treatment and such a wide swath of the current new money already fully in the Democrat pocket, for this to change.

      Viscount Douchenozzlé

      September 8, 2015 at 2:03 AM

  18. If they have to use fake sock puppets on social media, they must be hemorrhaging supporters. The left has always been made up of bums with no jobs or social lives. If they don’t have enough of them to spam anymore, this long nightmare may be coming to an end. The left has always camouflaged their power hungry selfishness by painting their political opponents as bullies. With this gay marriage debacle the gays are now going after Christians and throwing them in jail for matters of conscience. Guys like Bill Ayers and power mad witches like Hillary have always had jackboots in their closets, but a lot of their supporters really were peace loving pacifists. Many are probably horrified to see their side using jackboots like they always claimed were on the Right.
    At the same time the GOP is siding with their donors and giving the finger to their voters. I’m not sure what the thinking is there or if even thought is involved, but both parties seem to be imploding. Democracy is crashing and burning as people are beginning to realize this is a complete sham. Neither of these parties are what they said they were, and Trump is the ultimate proof. We’re an oligarchy. Have been for some time. Funny how a Billionaire is as close to a populist as we can get now isn’t it? Trump is the only guy who isn’t bought and sold, because like Perot he has enough Fuck You money to not need to sell himself to the donor class.

    Joshua Sinistar

    September 7, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    • Perot was a stooge, one nouveau riche plotting with another to secure ill-gotten gains. America, meanwhile, has perennially failed to aspire to anything beyond third-world governance and is simply reverting to its natural state now that the end of the Cold War has removed all incentives to different behaviour.

      Viscount Douchenozzlé

      September 8, 2015 at 1:53 AM

      • If Perot is a stooge what are the others? At least he used his own money. Who believes a system where someone spends a Billion Dollars to get a job that pays less than a million is legit? Are you stupid or just so cynical you don’t trust anybody? I don’t trust Trump but he’s a hell of a lot more independent than the others who need other peoples’ money.

        Joshua Sinistar

        September 8, 2015 at 5:30 PM

  19. At times, I’ve used different names between posts on a single thread in order to obscure my identity to outside observers. For whatever that tidbit of info is worth….


    September 7, 2015 at 10:59 PM

  20. Considering how contrary to American interests the major policies of the U.S. government are, I don’t know what “pro-American” means anymore. What does a “pro-American” government sock puppet support? Open borders?


    September 7, 2015 at 11:19 PM

    • Yes, according to the IRS Code, illegal aliens must register with a tax paying ID, so they can report their earnings. Basically, any income earned by illegals is subject to taxation.


      September 8, 2015 at 9:58 AM

      • Yep, my illegal worker has this tax ID, and uses it to work ‘legally’. He gets a W-2 form. He is a really good deal – gets paid only on the books, no cash, at $12 an hour. Trump is the only hope or this country is done for.


        September 8, 2015 at 6:38 PM

  21. Alright, which one of you racists shot my man Gabay!?


    September 8, 2015 at 12:21 AM

  22. One of the better arguments I’ve read in defense of Trump is that he is a fixed Oligarch in comparison to the mobile oligarch.


    September 8, 2015 at 3:23 AM

  23. On Steve Sailer’s site there is a frequent commenter called ‘Truth’
    Allegedly an African American but I’ve always suspected that ‘Truth’ is Sailer himself and simply uses this fake persona to stir the pot

    Mark T

    September 8, 2015 at 6:15 AM

    • I think ‘Truth’ really exists and is black. He has that hostile aggressiveness that blacks always use when they try to argue. He is also weak at constructing logical arguments to defend his position, another indicator that he’s black. He also seems oblivious that he matches black stereotypes about having a big ego and that’s a third indicator he’s black. If he’s really Sailer in disguise, then Steve is doing a really good job.


      September 8, 2015 at 6:00 PM

      • “Truth” also puts off that smug, “I’m so smart” air that you see in certain blacks of ~110 IQ. Being the smartest dude kicking it at the barber shop for so many years has them a little overconfident of their abilities.


        September 9, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    • Hahahaha…That might be true!

      Lion of the Judah-sphere

      September 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM

      • I think ‘Truth’ has a dry sense of humor very similar to Sailer’s and seldom seen in real life black guys
        He should be careful. Pretending to be black seems to be a strangely compelling hobby. He could go all the way like Rachel Dolezal.

        Mark T

        September 9, 2015 at 2:00 AM

  24. In movies (and life) the role of liar can be very dangerous. Imagine you’re a character in a John Ford western. John Wayne has just learned that you’re a liar. He slowly turns toward you and says (in a real level voice), “I don’t like being lied to, mister”. And you say…. Places, everyone!…Action!


    September 8, 2015 at 8:32 AM

  25. Sock puppets are very valuable if you’re an author with a book on Amazon. Writing a few favorable reviews of a new book can spur sales. It’s the social proof thing.

    That is not the way they do it, though. I know some mid-list authors and what they do is recruit friends, relatives, and other authors to post a bunch of five-star reviews (as well as to attack any negative reviews). The reviewers are not sock puppets… technically… but still they are shills.

    There are also pay-for-review sites so you can hire shills.

    I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but there are some extraordinarily prolific Amazon reviewers. They appear to get advance copies of books. Unsure if they get paid or not, but they almost never post less than a five star review. My suspicion is that Amazon gives them something (perhaps just a copy of the book) in return for their reviews that boost sales via social proof.


    September 8, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    • I try to read a few of the reviews for items I’m shopping for on Amazon, Home Depot, and Lowes, but often the reviews vary so much between 1 and 5 stars, that their not reliable or helpful. I’ve written reviews for a few products I’ve purchased.

      E. Rekshun

      September 8, 2015 at 4:59 PM

  26. I don’t have my own blog. Do various blogging platforms, such as WordPress, let blog owners know the IP address of their commenters?

    I always assumed sock puppetry would be known to the admin. Then again, maybe that is because when I ran a website long ago, I hosted it myself.


    September 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM

  27. ‘But if our own government is doing it, why is it despicable for private citizens doing it for a good cause?’

    Because a discussion becomes meaningless and a waste of time. If JS is Lion, it’s pretty infuriating, don’t you think so?


    September 8, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    • LoftB is the Pavlov (rhymes with Yakov) of blogging. A post, or a few comments, leads to a long thread of responses.


      September 8, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    • Looks like a great idea.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 8, 2015 at 6:03 PM

      • Robotic cattle pens are a good idea, but people need pleasant ambience and class. Even my Mexican at Yossi’s knows my taste exactly and makes my sandwich accordingly. No robot could do this. Can you imagine tiping a robot? No way! If he is programed to put half an avocado into a sandwich, he will, but my Mexican can put in whole one for me,because I like it that way and he gets $1.


        September 8, 2015 at 8:13 PM

      • “Can you imagine tiping a robot? No way! ”

        Not having to tip sounds like a plus.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 8, 2015 at 8:33 PM

      • Commenters had predicted that prole restaurants would be automated, and SWPL places would keep their human wait staff. However, this cutting edge roborestaurant appears to super SWPL.

        Fast food joints and convenience stores will not automate as easily, because a decent fraction of their customers aren’t literate enough to handle transactions with an iPad. Furthermore, places that have a high volume of traffic and need to move efficiently at peak periods would have a hard time dealing with customers who don’t have debit cards or credit cards handy.


        September 8, 2015 at 8:38 PM

      • @Lion

        You tip for quality and outstanding service. Nobody tired in the Soviet Union, you know, because robots and quazi-robots don’t deferentiate themselves. Say, tomorrow you can have a nylon heart and live forever, would you go for it? Or is it better to have a human heart that feels? Would you want to live ad a robot?


        September 9, 2015 at 12:36 AM

      • Yakov would have been the guy in 1976 saying self-service gas will never catch on because Marty the gas-station attendant knows just the right way to squeegee his windshield.


        September 9, 2015 at 1:03 AM

      • They HAVE survived in New Jersey. And it takes forever to buy gas in New Jersey.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 9, 2015 at 8:55 AM

      • There are no robots filing up gas in NJ. I like going for a coffee when my gas tank is being filled and I would trust a robot to do it, but they just can’t.

        Breakfast is the best meal of the day and an important ritual. To use a robot is a sacrilege. Only slaves, prisoners and animals should be fed by robots.


        September 9, 2015 at 10:12 AM

      • It appears Meriprolestan is becoming a soviet bloc nation, without the classy architecture. NYC is a great example, how a classy city from the 50s, prole drifts into garbage dump, in the 21st century.


        September 9, 2015 at 10:20 AM

      • @LotB: They HAVE survived in New Jersey.

        Isn’t that due to NJ state law?

        As a 14-year old, I pumped gas at a busy, right-off-the interstate Mobil gas station in the late ’70s for $2 per hour cash. Mt parents made me quite after I was robbed at knifepoint, handcuffed, and beaten by two NAMs.

        Just Surmising

        September 9, 2015 at 11:12 AM

  28. “…could be very useful on FaceBook for creating the illusion that you are more popular, which in turn would make you more popular in reality”

    Exactly. And it does work. I have a fake Twitter account that I use to talk up Amazon books, and I paid $10 on Fiverr to buy about 5,000 Twitter followers. Of course they’re all fake robot/zombie accounts, but that doesn’t matter; when I tweet to or follow someone on Twitter now, they immediately see that I have 5,000 followers (and am only following maybe 100 people), so they’re much more likely to follow me back or look at my message. Of course if they wanted to, they could easily deduce that my Twitter followers are bogus (I think there are even services that do just that), but most people are too lazy/busy. I am currently wondering if this effect could be enhanced; maybe it would be worth it for me to gradually buy 100,000 more followers, costing me maybe $50-$100 in total, just to have an even more appealing social-proof facade.

    I also used Fiverr to buy Amazon reviews, but they were almost all crap, just brief and generic (and often ungrammatical) reviews like “Great book! Awesome read! Five stars,” which probably do more harm then good. Since then I’ve created about a dozen fake Amazon accounts, which I now use to place positive reviews myself. This obviously takes a bit more work, but it also allows me to control the message in a more granular way, plus it’s free.

    “…all from subcontinental indians. it was obvious they were working for an agency that she was paying for likes.”

    Ha that happened to me with Facebook likes for the same fake identity that I run on Twitter to talk up Amazon books. I bought about 600 Facebook likes/follows on Fiverr, but I guess they were all from Arab places, which makes my FB page look totally bizarre considering its content/themes. And sometimes some of the Arab guys will send a friend request to my not-a-real-person FB sockpuppet account, which is kind of funny and sad at the same times. Anyway since then I’ve found other Fiverr sites that specify “We use American accounts only”, so maybe in the future I will choose that option.

    “I’ve been accused of being a sock puppet for other somewhat conservative commenters on very Liberal sites”

    I’ve definitely sockpuppeted myself out at a few sites like that. I’ve left HBD comments on Gawker/Salon/Slate, always in a rational and respectful tone, knowing that 99% of the readers will respond with “haha look at the racist troll spreading racist hate-speech”, but also knowing that maybe 1% will see the rock-solid logic of my HBD arguments, and then maybe “come around”; I know that I did. I too used to be a right-thinking SWPL SWJ before I was exposed to the dark light of HBD, so I know that minds can be changed.

    Broggo Frez

    September 8, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    • This explains why I tend to see truncated Amazon reviews like “Great service! Highly recommend” all over the place. God, you really can’t trust anything on the Internet anymore.


      September 9, 2015 at 9:12 AM

  29. But doesn’t ‘Jorge Videla’ deserve an exemption from the Lion’s rule?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    September 8, 2015 at 7:04 PM

  30. Lion, the evangelicals are continuing to rally round Carson.


    September 9, 2015 at 7:59 AM

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