Lion of the Blogosphere

Obama the Muslim: today’s outrage on CNN

CNN is outraged that Donald Trump did not correct a supporter who said Obama is a Muslim. The way CNN spins it, this has doomed Donald Trump’s candidacy. But every so often, they have to say something like “not that there’s anything wrong with being a Muslim.” Which they don’t actually believe. The Muslim thing freaks out the liberal media because they know it’s a big weak point of Obama and that if Republicans had been smarter they could have effectively used that line of attack to defeat Obama.

Trump has wisely tweeted that it’s not his job to defend Obama. The reason why Trump’s supporters like him is because he doesn’t supplicate to the liberal media the way other Republicans do. Trump will let the other stupid Republicans fall all over themselves saying how great of a Christian Obama is in a futile attempt to appease the liberal media; the liberal media will never return the favor.

Meanwhile, as I state again, I don’t believe that Obama believes that Jesus is the Son of God or that He died for humanity’s sins, so just because he attended Reverend Wright’s church doesn’t mean he’s a Christian. On the other hand, Obama has an Islamic name (Barrack [Al-Buraq] is the magical horse that flew Mohammed from Mecca to Jerusalem, and Hussein is the name that Mohammed gave to his grandson) and he lived as a young child in an Islamic country with an Islamic stepfather who took him to mosque, so he’s partially culturally a Muslim. That’s a statement of fact. Nor, as far as I know, has he ever stated that Islam is a false religion that he doesn’t believe in. And, of course, there’s no way to disprove that Obama secretly believes in Islam. (I personally don’t believe it, but there’s no way to prove or disprove it.)

I do believe, that as a result of his upbringing and his admiration for his Islamic biological father, Obama has a fondness for Islam that he doesn’t have for Christianity or Judaism. I could be wrong about that, but I don’t think there’s any way to prove I am wrong.

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I also believe that Obama likes the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and sees them as a more authentic representative of the Egyptian people than secular generals. That’s why he supported them, and also by supporting them he believed he was atoning for the sins of American neocolonialism.

On the other hand, Obama would be outraged at anyone who suggested that a religious Christian government would be a better representative for the American people than the government we currently have.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 19, 2015 at 11:03 am

Posted in Politics, Religion

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  1. Wasn’t someone around here pointing out recently that according to the rules of Islam, you’re Muslim if your father was Muslim, plus once a Muslim you’re always considered a Muslim? So in the eyes of Islam, Obama is an apostate Muslim.

    Hermes

    September 19, 2015 at 11:10 am

    • i think that is a very underappreciated point. by islam, he was born a muslim. that alone makes the statement “obama is a muslim” true enough that it cannot be dismissed.

      his record is pretty clearly in favor of the self-determination for muslim religious rule. he also seems pretty clear that christians at home should kowtow to secular governments.

      lion is writing some great stuff here, but the point that islam would consider obama a muslim by firth is the most important thing lion hasn’t mentioned.

      ralph

      September 19, 2015 at 1:49 pm

  2. Oh, I hope Trump doesn’t ever knuckle under to these hypocrites. It may be too much to hope for, however, if his candidacy gets even more serious and he has to pull all the strands of support together.

    *sigh*

    Mrs Stitch

    September 19, 2015 at 11:23 am

  3. Trump has wisely tweeted that it’s not his job to defend Obama. The reason why Trump’s supporters like him is because he doesn’t supplicate to the liberal media the way other Republicans do.

    Excellent answer. The White House never puts up a vigorous attempt to answer this straightforward ‘Yes or No’ question clearly, so why should Trump do their work for them?

    I also second Lion; Obama is an atheistic sympathizer of Muslim terrorism, but not a Muslim himself.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    September 19, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    • I’d even go a step further, and say that Obama is an atheist because he considers himself to be smart man, and everybody knows that smart people don’t believe there is a supreme being or supreme force.

      That said, liberal atheists do have a secular religion of sorts, and it’s the amalgam of feminism, environmentalism, ant-racism, etc. etc. This secular religion has all the features common to any other religion: things that are unprovable but are a matter of “faith” (all humans being equally capable learning), ostracism of non-believers, dietary restrictions (vegetarianism or veganism), end of the world scenarios (global warming or nuclear war), a holy text (Dreams From My Father), secular saints (single mothers), and so on. You get the idea.

      Sgt. Joe Friday

      September 19, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    • I’d even go a step further, and say that Obama is an atheist because he considers himself to be smart man, and everybody knows that smart people don’t believe there is a supreme being or supreme force.

      True. But his atheism isn’t what’s exceptional, it’s his attraction to Islamic terrorism without his being Muslim.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 19, 2015 at 9:35 pm

  4. Even if Obama is an atheistic sympathizer of Muslim terrorism, he’s no worse than George W. Bush.

    Lion of the Judah-sphere

    September 19, 2015 at 12:42 pm

  5. OT: Anyone recently perused The Thinking Housewife, the blog of Laura Wood, the “friend” in whose company Lawrence Auster died, and to whom he entrusted the care of his blog, View from the Right? She’s gone full-bore conspiracy theorist. At first I thought it was strange when she came out as a sedevacantist, since I doubt Auster would have made his deathbed conversion to Catholicism under the auspices of sedevacantism. But more recently she endorsed the case of some conspiracy theorist blogger that the Virginia reporter shooting was a hoax, and now she’s saying Israel perpetrated 9/11 and condemning anyone who doesn’t agree.

    It’s scary that this is the sole person ensuring that VFR remains online, and possibly presiding over the collection of Auster’s unpublished writings into a book (a project he said he was working on before he died.) Auster must be spinning in his grave.

    Hermes

    September 19, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    • Oh, and she’s also bought into the idea that 7 WTC was a controlled demolition

      Hermes

      September 19, 2015 at 12:49 pm

      • I used to read her blog, but it seems she may have succumbed to mental illness, so I stopped reading.

        jjbees

        September 19, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    • Sedevacantists are correct in the same way that “birthers” are correct. It’s not that Obama wasn’t born on US soil to an American citizen. It’s that he’s not really American at heart regardless of where he was born or who his parents were. Regardless, a tendency to see conspiracies in one thing often correlates with a tendency to see conspiracy in everything. Such people often see them where they don’t exist and overlook them where they actually do. It’s more psychological than rational.

      destructure

      September 19, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    • Yes, I noticed that she’s been going a bit off the deep end lately. Which is unfortunate because it’s good to have women who publicly and credibly point out that male leadership and traditional values do not necessarily equal oppression of women.

      sabril

      September 19, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    • Within a month of Auster’s death she was posting anti-Jewish puke, so I stopped going there. She’s a vampire — she raped the soul of a dying man.

      Garr

      September 20, 2015 at 8:39 am

  6. From a cultural standpoint, Barack Hussein Obama identifies more with Islam than Christianity, so essentially yes he is a Muslim.

    The Reverend Wright Church was nothing but a front. Wright’s church is not a real Christian church in any sense of the word. He went there because it was politically necessary to pose as a Christian and to develop the right contacts in the Chicago, liberal cesspool.

    If a white man with Christian parents named Jonathan Smith, who later “converted” to Islam, became the president of Saudi Arabia do you think those people would buy it? Hell no.

    B.T.D.T.

    September 19, 2015 at 1:02 pm

  7. When he said islamic state us not islamic , an IS cheikh explain that IS as if pig in his dust gave someone hygiene lessons …. The cheikh analysis background is technically not badly explained, in an Atlantic article, written by an american chinese 🙂

    Bruno from paris

    September 19, 2015 at 1:09 pm

  8. Others have noted that Bambi sat through 20 years of Jew-hate and whitey-hate at Wright’s church, and never once stood up to “correct” what Wright said — nor did he do so after the fact — nor did the media call on him to do so.

    Tarl

    September 19, 2015 at 2:38 pm

  9. This doesn’t seem like the type of issue that’s worth spending much brainpower on. Neither Obama, nor Trump, nor most of the American ruling class are Christians in any sense beyond the broadly symbolic/cultural. And I’m not really convinced that’s a bad thing.

    Freddie

    September 19, 2015 at 3:15 pm

  10. I think that this entry, like your post on Guiliani saying Obama didn’t love America, is both extremely controversial by the conventional measure and yet perfectly true and obviously so at that.

    Karl

    September 19, 2015 at 3:15 pm

  11. Love the consistent msm hypocrisy on Trump. Why is it ok for them to make fun of DT’s hair, but not ok for DT to wisecrack about Fiorina’s face?

    driveallnight

    September 19, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    • 1. Because joking about DT’s hair isn’t humiliating and hurtful.

      2. Because it wasn’t Fiorina that was doing it.

      3. Because you don’t insult a woman.

      4. Because when a future president, and Trump is our future president, does it, it embarrasses the country.

      This president honors his country by his behaviour :

      Yakov

      September 19, 2015 at 8:10 pm

      • Our society has completely bought into what I call the Equalism Doctrine. Your belief in the deferential treatment of women is not shared by mainstream America.

        You seriously believe your list is why the msm covers DT more critically than they do the other candidates?

        driveallnight

        September 19, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    • No, but it’s still wrong. I can just imagine Putin looking in disbelief how nine men are standing by and watching a woman being humiliated and thinking: ‘Why doesn’t someone punch him in the mouth? I would’ve put him in a choke hold until he apologizes.’ At least this is what I think.

      Yakov

      September 19, 2015 at 11:04 pm

      • Fair enough.

        driveallnight

        September 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm

      • Trump said she had a beautiful face and was a beautiful woman. What more do you want from the guy???

        destructure

        September 20, 2015 at 10:29 pm

      • You don’t get matronly respect if you’re putting yourself forward for a position where you order men around. All bargains are two sided.

        You get matronly respect if you act like a matron.

        Steve Johnson

        September 21, 2015 at 12:58 am

      • Ask Pussy Riot about Putin’s respect for women.

        Tarl

        September 21, 2015 at 9:44 am

      • @Tarl

        Pussy Riots are whores and are treated according to the highest legal standards. When they burst into a Church topless and started screaming profanities, they got two years in prison. Apparently not enough, because they haven’t learned anything. Cosaks whipped them when they tried to disrupt the Olympics. Apparently not enough, because they haven’t learned anything. They simply need to be put into a psychiatric institution. They are terrorists and should be floggef and incarcerated. Putin is too soft on them.

        Yakov

        September 21, 2015 at 11:22 am

  12. “I also believe that Obama likes the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and sees them as a more authentic representative of the Egyptian people than secular generals. That’s why he supported them, and also by supporting them he believed he was atoning for the sins of American neocolonialism.”

    Obama’s DCI, Clapper, had stated in Congressional hearings that the Muslim Brotherhood was a secular organization. That was too much even for the media, but that’s their talking point for overthrowing an American ally of 30 years for a bunch of Islamic religious fanatics. They still use that line.

    It also shows that Clapper has no problem corrupting intelligence for his purposes, as the CENTCOM analyst revolt shows.

    Mike Street Station

    September 19, 2015 at 3:51 pm

  13. Every time I think about the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood lost Egypt to a military junta, much to Obama’s chagrin, I savor the fact like a fine wine. Morsi is condemned to death, along with hundreds more Brotherhood members, and Obama couldn’t have lost harder in spite of his efforts to prop up these radical Islamists.

    Sanjuro

    September 19, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    • Obama and the idiot McCain are both on the wrong side. Here is a reaction of Egyptian people to the coup, worth seeing.

      Yakov

      September 19, 2015 at 9:35 pm

      • Oops, the wrong video

        Yakov

        September 19, 2015 at 9:38 pm

      • Yakov watches this video with tears in his eyes every morning to start his day.

        chairman

        September 19, 2015 at 11:06 pm

      • Twice I’ve posted the wrong video.

        Yakov

        September 20, 2015 at 9:40 am

      • Secular Egyptians were no doubt delighted by Morsi’s ouster.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 20, 2015 at 10:57 am

      • @chairman
        ‘ Yakov watches this video with tears in his eyes every morning to start his day.’

        I’m surprised that you haven’t realized that if I post a video that isn’t related to my post, it must be a mistake. And incidentally, I only viewed it after your comment to see what you’d meant, but it still escapes me.

        Yakov

        September 20, 2015 at 1:59 pm

  14. “I do believe, that as a result of his upbringing and his admiration for his Islamic biological father (who converted to Islam), Obama has a fondness for Islam that he doesn’t have for Christianity or Judaism. I could be wrong about that, but I don’t think there’s any way to prove I am wrong.”

    I think that Obama’s hatred of Whites / anything culturally White is deep. Islam fits the bill. I also think that what is preached in Jeremiah Wright’s “church” has more to do with anti-Whiteness and Black Liberation Theology than it does with Christianity. It’s also consistent with understanding Obama’s motivations and actions; ‘If it’s anti-White/anti-West, Obama’s for it.’ Simplistic, yes, but close to being essentially correct.

    John

    September 19, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    • lots of swpl stuff is culturally white, i’m sure obama loves those. he probably also prefers the company of swpls to muslim brotherhood types. he panders to the them the same way a blue state republican panders to rednecks by making bacon with a rifle.

      GM

      September 20, 2015 at 7:57 pm

  15. This seems like a fairly ridiculous charge and it demonstrates just how hostile the media is towards Trump. But anyway, it strikes me as a pretty good opportunity for Trump — anyone who seriously sees this as a strike against him would have never voted for him anyway. And when he refuses to apologize and nothing happens, it gives him extra credibility and he’s in a better position if a more serious problem arises down the road.

    Besides, even if Obama is technically not a foreigner or a Muslim, it’s pretty clear that he’s quite sympathetic to the Third World. Most people realize this, consciously or subconsciously, and that’s why they think of him as a foreigner.

    Also, like you point out, it shows what a scam this whole Islamophobia thing is. Why is it some kind of insult to characterize someone as a Muslim? Actually, it would have been funny if Trump’s response had been to ask “are you suggesting there is something wrong with being a Muslim or a foreigner?”

    sabril

    September 19, 2015 at 5:44 pm

  16. Here are some questions that would be interesting to ask of Obama, that I bet no reporters with access to him have asked:

    Your father was Muslim, your stepfather was Muslim, and you went to a Muslim school in Indonesia – when did you leave the Muslim faith?

    Did you ever formally convert to Christianity? If so, when?

    My guess is that the main reason the press and Obama surrogates (a lot of overlap between the two, obviously) are so touchy about this is that, for all intents and purposes, Obama was a Muslim, and if he admits that, then he’s also admitting he’s an apostate by abandoning the faith for his black nationalist church (and then, for secularism, once he got in the White House). And that would bring on fatwas from the Muslim world against him, which would be embarrassing.

    And the other reason the press is touchy about this is that Obama first sprung onto the national scene with a DNC speech in which he claimed that blue state Dems were full of devout Christians, including himself. And bringing up religion now highlights how transparently false that was. Bill Clinton may be an agnostic as well, but at least he went through the motions of going to church regularly, bringing his own bible, etc. Obama doesn’t bother.

    Dave Pinsen

    September 19, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    • when did you leave the Muslim faith?

      Doubtful a specific date exists. Rather than abandoning Islam in an official manner, he merely drifted away from it after returning to America because he’s too intellectually lazy to devote energy to any religion. But, for various reasons, he still sympathizes with it.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 19, 2015 at 9:42 pm

      • Doubtful a specific date exists. Rather than abandoning Islam in an official manner

        The specific date would be the date he converted to Christianity, which he probably never did.

        This is why the media wants questions about Obama’s faith to be taboo, because Obama loses either way he answers. If he admits he never converted to Christianity, than he’s admitting he’s a Muslim. And if he says he converted, than he’s a Muslim apostate, which is no good either.

        Incidentally, Jeb Bush weighed in saying Obama’s a Christian.

        Dave Pinsen

        September 20, 2015 at 12:00 am

      • The specific date would be the date he converted to Christianity, which he probably never did.

        I would assume he was baptized at some point because he’s been attending black churches for years. He himself may not remember when it happened. Of course he attended only to satisfy black voters who expect their representatives to be Christian.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 20, 2015 at 8:23 pm

  17. Trumps replies were masterclass knockouts.

    1. Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don’t think so!

    2. This is the first time in my life that I have caused controversy by NOT saying something.

    3. If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!

    4. If I would have challenged the man, the media would have accused me of interfering with that man’s right of free speech. A no win situation!

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/19/donald-trump-responds-to-pearl-clutching-media-and-failing-gop-candidates/

    At this point, referee stopped contest.

    Glengarry

    September 19, 2015 at 7:22 pm

  18. “On the other hand, Obama would be outraged at anyone who suggested that a religious Christian government would be a better representative for the American people than the government we currently have.”

    It’s double standards like this that make the current situation so unstable. Factions within societies which attempt to have one set of rules for themselves and another set for others ultimately become hated. One thing I’ve noticed happening in the past year or so is that more people who are not on the Left are starting to actually hate the people on the Left. I say that’s great news and it’s about time, since the Left has been hating its opponents since Day One.

    Abundance Mentality

    September 19, 2015 at 7:47 pm

  19. Where was Obama just a few months ago when the Hispanic lobbies and business lobbies were all unifying against Trump and boycotting his business interests?

    Where was Obama when the Mexican drug cartels threatened to murder Trump?

    Where was Obama when Trump was being compared to Adolf Hitler?

    Even funnier is what the talking heads on CNN today were saying – that Trump should have followed John McCain’s example when McCain was confronted with a supporter that thought Obama was a Muslim. It never came up during the whole program that McCain lost the election, and therefore might not be worth emulating.

    I personally don’t believe that Obama believes in God or any religion. He is a consummate Machiavellian, who worships mammon and power. Hell, he’s already plotting with his big business supporters a billion-dollar retirement post-presidency.

    See http://tinyurl.com/obgvvae

    “There is nothing more important than appearing to be religious.” -The Prince

    unpropaganda

    September 19, 2015 at 8:23 pm

  20. Barack Obama’s Kenyan paternal GRANDFATHER converted to Islam. His father was born and educated as a Muslim, although he reportedly became an atheist as an adult.

    Mark Caplan

    September 19, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    • Ooops.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 19, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    • Okay fine, but Obama’s step dad was a muslim and Obama went to the muslim class when he was in school in Indonesia, so he had exposure and identity in his youth.

      not too late

      September 20, 2015 at 2:57 am

  21. @Lion – Barack’s name is actually Arabic for blessed. The Hebrew cognate is Baruch. Barak and Burak are 2 different words with different pronunciations.

    Jimi

    September 19, 2015 at 11:54 pm

  22. Religion, like gambling, should be restricted to adults. What’s next, Republican and Democratic children?

    jef

    September 20, 2015 at 2:15 am

  23. The media hypocrisy on this is unreal. I just listened to an NPR segment with Mara Liasson castigating Trump for his “failure” to lecture that guy at the speech on how Obama is really a Christian and for not using the moment as a platform to declare how wonderful Muslims are (if they’re so great, why is it a bad thing that anyone would think Obama is one? I thought we settled this with gays) . Then IMMEDIATELY afterward there was a segment about calls for more debates in the Democratic primaries that ran a clip of Martin O’Malley yelling to a crowd that the Republican Party is led “by that racist, anti-immigrant, carnival barker Donald Trump.”

    No comment. Nothing at all. They just let it roll, for their listeners to savor, I guess.

    So: anytime an ordinary guy attending a rally says something that stings, the Republican candidates are supposed to jump down his throat and ride to the defense of assailed Democratic elected officials. When actual Democratic candidates say things far more worse about Republicans (because being a racist is bad, while being a Muslim is not), forget it. Just shut up and take it. Anything that hurts Republicans is OK but anything that might hurt Democrats needs to be denounced and shouted out of the public square (by Republicans).

    I predict Trump will go up at least five points after the polls absorbing this farcical episode come in.

    Richard

    September 20, 2015 at 10:00 am

  24. Something I saw on CNN before I stopped paying attention (because this is a stupid “story”)was one talking-head saying the other talking-heads are obsessed with bringing down Trump, and this was a non-story that the media was trying to turn into a story, but that shows the disconnect between the media and normal people.

    The other guys on the panel felt that comment was problematic.

    DSGNTD_PLYR

    September 20, 2015 at 11:27 am

  25. Obama is a latent Muslim at best. He owns 2 dogs. It’s Haram (non-Kosher in Arabic) in Islam, to keep dogs as pets.

    JS

    September 20, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    • Like I said, I don’t believe that he believes in it.

      But Jews who eat bacon and drive on Saturday are still considered Jews.

      As far as I know, Catholics who only go to church on Christmas and Easter are still considered Catholics.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 20, 2015 at 12:50 pm

      • He married a Christian and raised his daughters as Christians.

        Jimi

        September 20, 2015 at 1:17 pm

      • Judaism is both a religion and an ethnicity. Islam is not. Your ancestors may have come from Poland or the Russian Pale, but you aren’t Polish or Russian in the eyes of the Poles and Russians even if you cease to practice Judaism.

        nebbish

        September 20, 2015 at 1:27 pm

      • Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said that “GOP front-runner Donald Trump’s racism knows no bound,” because of his supposed anti-Islamic statements. So liberals believe that Islam is a race.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 20, 2015 at 1:40 pm

      • Nebbish – Correct, and one is only a Jew from his/her matrilineal line.

        JS

        September 20, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      • Judaism is both a religion and an ethnicity.

        The religion of Judaism is not synonymous with Ashkenazi – Ashkenazim are an ethnicity but anyone of any ancestry can practice Judaism if they wish to convert.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 20, 2015 at 8:18 pm

      • @ Lion –

        Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was almost certainly insincere and trying to socre political points against Trump, but no doubt some poorly educated people would agree with what she said.

        @ TUJ –

        Ashkenazi is a subset of the Jewish ethnic category. Not all ethnic Jews are Ashkenazim, but all who could be described as Ashkenazim are ethnic Jews. The larger Jewish ethnic category does have significance in that all of the mainstream Jewish groups have shared ancestry going back to the ancient Middle East and cluster near each other on principal component plots for that reason regardless of what other ancestral elements have been accumulated since the Jewish Diaspora began. Converts do become full Jews from the perspective of Jewish religious law, and this does provide a counterexample to Judaism as an ethnicity, but it does not entirely refute the ethnic component of Judaism. If the converts were to blend in to the Jewish community and their children were to marry other Jews, their descendants would be ethnic Jews.

        nebbish

        September 21, 2015 at 1:35 am

      • The larger Jewish ethnic category does have significance in that all of the mainstream Jewish groups have shared ancestry going back to the ancient Middle East and cluster near each other on principal component plots for that reason regardless of what other ancestral elements have been accumulated since the Jewish Diaspora began.

        Jewish Middle Eastern ancestry hasn’t been confirmed as being Israelite, for Ashkenaim it’s more likely to be Anatolian Turk in origin.

        Persian, Yemenite, and Iraqi Jews have near Eastern ancestry from populations that weren’t present in ancient Israel.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 21, 2015 at 7:18 pm

      • @ TUJ –

        In the absence of ancient DNA analysis, this question cannot be answered definitively. However, there are some clues that the Middle Eastern component of Ashkenazi DNA is Levantine rather than Anatolian. Hapologroup J1 Y-chromosomes are more common among Ashkenazim (and all core Jewish populations) than among Anatolian Turks. Then there is the fact that Anatolian Turks plot closer to Europeans than do Levantines on principal component analyses such that if Ashkenazim were a roughly 50:50 mixture of Anatolian Turk and Southern European, one would expect them to plot closer to the European cluster than they do.

        nebbish

        September 21, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    • Obama’s Kenyan grandpa and father were professed Muslims. Both were also hopeless drunkards, even though Islam forbids the consumption of alcohol. Obama himself quaffs beer. He has also eaten bacon, pork chops, and other cooked swine — serious violations of Sharia or Qu’ranic Law.

      Can a Muslim get back into the good graces of Allah after committing a serious transgression? Is there a sin-delete app that runs under Islam? Maybe whack a Zionist, erase a sin?

      Mark Caplan

      September 20, 2015 at 12:54 pm

      • If he prays five times a day for a whole year and observes Ramadan, his sins will be forgiven.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 20, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      • Ha! The Arab Muslims were keen on HBD. I’ve heard some of them said blacks don’t make good Muslims. They aren’t disciplined enough to become devout Mohammedan followers.

        Similarly, a black Hasidic Jew would be an epic fail!

        JS

        September 20, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      • JS, actually black orthodox and hassidic Jews are fine chaps. Same goes for observant Ethiopians. All good people. I’ve never had a problem with them. It must be that there is a Jewish soul inside those bodies. I’m a rationalist and not a mystic, but I think this is what it is.

        Yakov

        September 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm

  26. Judaism is somewhat different. It’s a religion mostly based on “ethnicity” and genetics. A non-believer like yourself, is a Jew regardless.

    JS

    September 20, 2015 at 12:59 pm

  27. This is weird. I don’t get all the excitement. Obama strikes me as a pragmatic, materialist personality type, so he probably doesn’t believe in the doctrine of Christianity or Islam. People tend to be regarded as having a civic religious identity that they inherit from their parents which stays the same unless they intentionally change it. In Obama’s case, the inheritance is complicated because his father was a Marxist of Muslim birth, his mother was another pragmatic personality who was a civic Christian, and his step-father was Muslim. He was certainly raised as a Muslim by his step-father when he was a young child. However, none of that matters because Obama clearly made a decision to switch to a Christian identity when he started attending church in Chicago and adopted Wright as his mentor. So: he probably doesn’t believe in any religion in his heart (but only he knows for sure), and his public persona is Christian. Obviously, Obama sympathises with Muslims, but one could say the same for Prince Charles. That doesn’t make one a Muslim.

    Greg Pandatshang

    September 20, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    • The liberal MSM pundits aren’t even willing to dicuss why Obama isn’t a Muslim. From them it’s just “Obama is Christian, duh! If you disagree you’re a moron.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 20, 2015 at 3:45 pm

      • Well, there’s no story here. It would be different if there were any reason to believe that Obama has secret Muslim supernatural beliefs, but I see no evidence that he has any supernatural beliefs. In the absence of supernatural beliefs, all we have to go on is his public religious behaviour, which is exclusively Christian since he left Indonesia as a little kid. Americans (and probably most other people) have a traditional hands-off attitude toward public figures’ actual doctrinal beliefs as long as they say the right things in public. Orthopraxy.

        If the story were “Obama grew up around Muslims, has a Muslim name, found the Nation of Islam intriguing as a young man, and generally sympathises with Muslims” that would be accurate, but it’s the kind of thing that ought to be obvious.

        Greg Pandatshang

        September 21, 2015 at 10:15 am

      • 30% of the people think he is Muslim despite the MSM telling us otherwise at every opportunity. And since religion is a social phenomenon and not a scientific one, if so many people think he’s Muslim that means he’s partially Muslim.

        The fact is, Obama hasn’t tried very hard to let the world know that he is not Muslim.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 21, 2015 at 10:17 am

      • He went to Jeremiah Wright’s creepy church for years and donated beaucoup bucks to it. He never shows any evidence of believing in the supernatural. What more does he need to do? I’d say that if he’s going to put more effort into proving something to somebody, it should be proving that he’s not a creepy Wrightatarian type of Christian.

        30% is fewer than the people in the U.S. who don’t believe in evolution. Those people know jack about jack.

        Greg Pandatshang

        September 21, 2015 at 11:40 am

    • “Pragmatic” is an interesting term to use for a crazed Leftist.

      The word is supposed to mean non-ideological and interested in “what works” — and in that sense, Obama is the least pragmatic president we’ve ever had.

      Tarl

      September 21, 2015 at 9:39 am


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