Lion of the Blogosphere

Ahmed’s pencil case

Some reader expressed doubt that the briefcase looking thing that Ahmed put the clock parts into is really a pencil case, but I found it on Amazon.com.

As you can see, with the pens in it to give it a size perspective, it’s a small little thing, and it doesn’t look bomb-sized. After the police questioned Ahmed (because school employees told the police the kid brought a hoax bomb to school), they determined that he had no intent to hoax anyone, and they let him go. So the police back up the story that it wasn’t a hoax bomb.

Some Ahmed haters have proposed the idea that the LED clock gadget was a diabolical plan by Ahmed’s dad to get Ahmed arrested so that they could milk it for huge publicity, and the gadget was ingeniously designed to look enough like a bomb to get the police involved, but not enough like a bomb so that they would have “plausible deniability” and not wind up in prison for creating a genuine hoax bomb (which sounds sort of like an oxymoron). That story violates the Occam’s Razor principle because it’s too damn complicated. The much simpler story is that Ahmed is a nerdy kid who likes to tinker with old consumer electronics who wanted attention from his teachers.

From the perspective of Ahmed’s dad, the incident was one of serendipity. Once it happened, the father who is an Islamic activist, did know how to milk it for huge publicity.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 23, 2015 at EST pm

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  1. As you can see, with the pens in it to give it a size perspective, it’s a small little thing, and it doesn’t look bomb-sized.

    Google plastic explosives.

    Some reader expressed doubt that the briefcase looking thing that Ahmed put the clock parts into is really a pencil case

    If the image weren’t open it would look like a miniature suitcase. With clock parts a teacher would be justified thinking its a small bomb, or a fake bomb designed to spread fear.

    He knew what he was built looked like a bomb.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

    • It would look like a miniature suitcase because there would be no sense of scale. No suitcase, miniature or otherwise, is that size. It’s less than half the size of a sheet of paper.

      Lloyd Llewellyn

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

    • It would look like a miniature suitcase because there would be no sense of scale. No suitcase, miniature or otherwise, is that size. It’s less than half the size of a sheet of paper.

      It doesn’t need to be a real bomb to be a threat.

      If he tried to pass a miniature doll of his teacher with a small plastic knife through its heart as a ‘project’, he would still deserve a chat with the cops.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 26, 2015 at EST pm

  2. What this kid needs is a good beating by his classmates to learn to respect America and it’s values.

    Yakov

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

    • Kids shouldn’t beat up their classmates. Any who do should be severely punished.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 23, 2015 at EST pm

      • What are you talking about? This is how you learn to behave in society. Kids fighting is very healthy. I teach my kids and grandkids to fight and solve their own problems without resorting to school administration or parents. This is how you earn respect, not by snitching.

        Now Muslim kid who dises America by bringing a hoax bomb the day after 9/11 should be beaten by his classmates. I would tell my kids to beat him up. He deserves it.

        Yakov

        September 23, 2015 at EST pm

      • Anti-bullying is apart of the gay and pedo agenda. America would be a better and more masculine place if kids fought a little more. Except with negroes because negroes do not understand anything. If you fight one they are likely to get their cousin and their friends to jump you at a later date really, really bad. Like you go to the hospital with life threatening injuries bad, not Billy got a black eye from a fight after school kid stuff. Also, anti-bullying is really helicopter parenting.

        NotWesley

        September 23, 2015 at EST pm

    • Yakov – Ha! Which is why you are a confused bloke on this blog!

      JS

      September 23, 2015 at EST pm

      • JS, you should know by now that I deal with substantive issues. Everything else I ignore, so comment accordingly.

        Yakov

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

  3. I think your theory – that the 14-year-old son of a Muslim activist was oblivious to the implications of bringing what looks like a Hollywood bomb to school – is the one that requires contortion to believe.

    Perturabo

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

  4. because the case is small, means it does not look like a bomb? lame point.

    “tinker” might imply he did some wiring. it’s been established elsewhere that he just removed the plastic case.

    why would he array the components of a functioning alarm clock in that manner? at least try and tell us he has aspergers and not pretend its just some innocent thing. looks too much like a real bomb.

    Leave aside his parents involvement in a conspiracy, it seems quite plausible that he could have been making a fake bomb for attention.

    simple answer: dopey kid who likes to meddle with electronics but no real talent with them, and foolishly makes something to get attention.

    ralph

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

  5. Well do you agree that the project consisted simply of removing the clock from its original casing and putting it into the “pencil case”? Because it seems that’s what the consensus is. And it’s hard to think of any reason why someone would do such a thing unless they were trolling for a reaction.

    sabril

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

    • The brother isn’t guilty of whatever you think the sister is guilty of.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • She herself claims to have been in the same situation as Ahmed. There’s no “whatever I think she is guilty of.” We are looking at the various pieces of information we have and speculating about what is likely. To me, who the father is, the press conference, the involvement of CAIR, and two kids getting in trouble at school for suspicion of something threat/hoax-related suggests hostile Muslims giving us a hard time. We might have more clues if the city were allowed to comment, but the family will not allow it, despite having held a CAIR-infested press conference to tell their side of the story.

        Perturabo

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • What percentage of school age children get in trouble for bomb-related issues? I would guess less than one in a thousand. Probably lower, much lower, for girls.

        So either we are looking at a one-in-a-million coincidence, or there is some common factor between these two children. The obvious candidate being their attention-seeking father.

        sabril

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

  6. The latest: ahmed’s sister admits suspension for bomb threat three years earlier. I still think it is a bomb hoax.

    cesqy

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

    • The brother isn’t guilty of whatever you think the sister is guilty of.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • I think the devious and passive muslim sister is manipulating the younger and more technical brother in an act of revenge for her totally “innocent” bomb threat suspension.

        cesqy

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • Since his sister had been suspended for making a bomb threat in what she claims was a miscarriage of justice, Ahmed should have been extra-cautious about suffering the same fate. Instead he seems to have actively courted it. When his engineering teacher told him the clock looked disturbing and he shouldn’t show it to anyone else, he ignored him and shopped it around to several other authority figures until someone finally dropped the boom.

        Nothing out there proves that this was a hoax, but at the same time I marvel at anyone who isn’t deeply suspicious about the good faith of a family headed by a publicity-hound who runs for President of Sudan when he’s not annoying people in the US, with two kids of different sexes taken up on separate occasions for bomb hoaxes. Ahmed has shown he’s his father’s son by talking up his trivial tampering as an “invention”, which would be excusable at 6 but idiotic coming from a 14 year old.

        Richard

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

  7. Muslims have no business being in a western country. Send them back, they are an annoying bunch, especially here in Germany. Loud-mouthed, with lots of demands for their stupidity (read: Islam and their crappy culture). They aren’t grateful that we endure them (they are expensive as they usually are on welfare or only work simple jobs that don’t pay much in taxes [see Sarrazin as well as geneticist Volkmar Weiss’ work]) They’ll be a majority in almost all western countries anyway. Why should I welcome that? While the west has lost its once high cultural output, it’s still a superior culture that is being replaced by an inferior one.

    Friedrich

    September 23, 2015 at EST pm

    • I was going to write that Muslims in the US have above average incomes but they don’t http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-1-a-demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/ .

      But anyone in the US that complains about Muslims without complaining about Blacks isn’t being consistent and almost noone is openly critical of Blacks.

      Lloyd Llewellyn

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • The ancestors of American blacks were forcibly brought over as slaves. They are not invaders. That is an important difference.

        Dan

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • Immigrants, especially legal ones, aren’t invaders either by any reasonable definition. Descendants of immigrants and descendants of slaves are in an even more similar position.

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        September 25, 2015 at EST pm

    • I’m with you. The muslims will not just drain resources from other parts of society but also bring increases in crime and disorder. That idiot Merkel should retire immediately. What a disaster.

      Glengarry

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

  8. lion, so occam’s razor proves that humans have simple motivations for doing stuff?

    rivelino

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

    • Attention. Status. Sex. Fitting in. Sex. Yes.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • “Attention. Status. Sex. Fitting in. Sex.”

        I’ve known people like that including a few otherwise intelligent people. But someone who does things for attention, status, or to fit in is shallow and egotistical. And someone who does things for sex is a degenerate. Those are foolish and contemptible motives.

        destructure

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • Great, and so this need for attention can only be played out in simple ways?

        rivelino

        September 28, 2015 at EST pm

  9. “After the police questioned Ahmed (because school employees told the police the kid brought a hoax bomb to school), they determined that he had no intent to hoax anyone, and they let him go.”

    The police did not determine that “he had no intent”. They determined that they did not have evidence of a culpable intent. Mens rea evidence is what they were trying to obtain through questioning him. But the coached kid, of course, stayed mum.

    anon

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  10. I now want little Boom-Boom, the Sheldon Cooper of the Umma, to take his peak 21st century invention to the White House and flip out if he gets searched or stopped.

    This piece of muslim ingenuity would also make a nice holiday gift from CAIR.

    Glengarry

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  11. Remember, it was the first school day after the 9/11 anniversary when “mohamed” brought this in, this is like someone named “Adolf” showing up in a white robe on MLK day, claiming he is dressed up as a ghost, hilarity will ensure!

    My favorite pun that followed was the picture of a Molotov cocktail, with the caption “homemade candle, show your teacher”.

    guest

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  12. Even if you don’t share these suspicions, it surprises me that you find them so unreasonable and characterize them in terms which make them seem outlandish, like “diabolical plan.” These people like to prod America, and that’s what they are doing.

    Perturabo

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  13. Let’s not overlook “Twin Towers Transportation”.

    jef

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  14. Let’s say he is completely innocent, like Lion claims, he still needs a good beating because he should be aware of his surroundings and what is appropriate in America. This is how kids learn and grow up into normal adults. The poor child never heard of 9/11? Doesn’t understand about bombs? He thinks he is being funny? Thinks he is an engineering genius? Thinks people have got nothing better to do than be busy with his nonsense? His daddy is a sheik and can spit at America? A good beating cures from all these shortcomings and misconceptions. He learns that what others think is important. Now next thing he’ll do is burn the flag, just wait.

    Yakov

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

    • “The poor child never heard of 9/11?”

      Actually, it happened the same year he was born. It means to him what stuff that happened to me in the year I was born meant to me when I was 14, which was absolutely nothing.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • Well, you have problems. When I was 14, second world War was real to me, Spanish Civil War was real, destruction of the Temple was real and Exodus from Egypt was real. You don’t have a national historical memory and that is a big problem.

        A good beating has the ability of making 9/11 very real. I know from experience. Obviously, I wasn’t always right as a kid, and fighting and getting a good beating straightened me out on many issues.

        Incidentally, today is Korban Bairam, commemorating an even that had happened 3,500 thousand years ago. Do you think it’s not real to this kid?

        Yakov

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • You would NOW because something that happened the year you were born was almost 50 years ago. Something that happened the year he was born was only 14 years ago. I have children his age and younger who are well aware of the significance of 9/11 and the ridiculousness of a muslim or anyone else bringing a timer in a case to school the day after 9/11. Either this kid has asperger’s or something or this was a deliberate hoax.

        destructure

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • I was born in 1981. When I was young, stuff that happened in the late ’70s and early ’80s was much fuzzier to me than things like the Spanish-American War or the Great Depression because the older stuff was in history books with its interpretation largely agreed upon, while the recent stuff was too fresh to be incorporated into the cultural load that gets taught to youngsters through school, fiction and movies.

        Richard

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • That’s exactly how I felt about the Vietnam War when I was Ahmed’s age, some mysterious thing that I heard mentioned of but had no knowledge or feelings about it. It wasn’t taught in school. I doubt that 9/11 is taught in schools, because it would be politically incorrect to teach it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • When I was young, stuff that happened in the late ’70s and early ’80s was much fuzzier to me than things like the Spanish-American War or the Great Depression because the older stuff was in history books with its interpretation largely agreed upon

        True. I was born in 1976, and things like the election of Jimmy Carter and the Iran Hostage Crisis were like these random events from ancient history that I merely heard of but knew nothing about.

        I doubt that 9/11 is taught in schools, because it would be politically incorrect to teach it.

        They probably teach the kids that it was a “random tragedy” perpetrated by extremists who had nothing to do with Islam but had hijacked it for their own right-wing agenda. The comparison is then probably made to the religious right in America, so that the kids can learn that the true enemies of America are conservative Christians.

        Hermes

        September 24, 2015 at EST am

      • I think the fact that the kid was born the same year as 9-11 and has no personal memory of it may explain the timing of his provocative behavior. I was born a couple years after Kennedy was shot so as a middle schooler I had a vague awareness of it but would not have been thinking of it while the anniversary was approaching. Only when the actual anniversary date arrived and there was a bunch of media attention on it would I think about it.

        Ahmed probably only had the 9-11 event deeply enter his active consciousness on the 9-11 anniversary day. That might explain why he was three days late on his fake bomb hoax.

        trey

        September 24, 2015 at EST pm

    • Yakov, if this kid is so much as tripped or has a chair pulled out from him the offending student will face assault and hate crime charges. He’ll be summarily expelled and placed in reform school. Ahmed would be elevated from patriotic whiz kid status to Rosa Parks tier martyr status.

      PoorGradStudent

      September 24, 2015 at EST pm

  15. The only problem with this situation I have is simply how hard all the blues are signaling over this.
    Facebook, twitter, MIT, scholarships, internships, come Ahmed, come learn to make real bombs! We are open-minded, not like those bigots who run your school!

    There is a large contingent of our society that has been overtaken with a suicidal urge to destroy conservatives, even if it means the end of western civilization.

    This Ahmed kid, whose family should have been fucking goats somewhere in Arabia, is just a symptom of a greater disease.

    jjbees

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

    • You are correct that the liberal media is making hayday out of this, and it’s not even clear that Ahmed was discriminated against for being Muslim. It could have been nerd discrimination and zero-tolerance run amok. (When white kids are routinely victims of such zero-tolerance, their situation is ignored by the MSM. Serves their parents right for being too poor to send them to a quality private school.) And yes, they are also making him out to be a genius when he’s not, and I’d even agree that his hobby of taking stuff apart and calling that an “invention” is kind of weird.

      But I still believe that Ahmed himself is a clueless nerdy kid who didn’t intend to create a hoax bomb. Maybe he’s slightly aspergery. There are lots of weird nerdy kids who are harmless.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

    • This.

      And everything Yakov said, too.

      Tarl

      September 24, 2015 at EST pm

  16. Just found this on SPLC’s website:

    “Anti-immigrant hate groups are the most extreme of the hundreds of nativist and vigilante groups that have proliferated since the late 1990s, when anti-immigration xenophobia began to rise to levels not seen in the United States since the 1920s.”

    Out of all the hate groups, “anti-immigrant hate groups” ARE THE WORST!? Remember, anti-immigration is not even a conservative viewpoint.

    Nothing is worse than preventing us importing enough voters so that we can win…forever! Nothing! To want to stop this coup is pure hate!

    jjbees

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

    • The SPLC’s business model depends on whipping up concern about anti-left bogeymen.

      Richard

      September 24, 2015 at EST am

  17. Is it true that Bongo invited Ahmed to the white house? I also read Michelle was so upset by this story that she threw her feces at guests.

    destructure

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  18. “Little Boom-Boom not understand. At my home, we make many clock like this. Small case, big case, sometimes with phone inside.”

    Glengarry

    September 24, 2015 at EST am

  19. They don’t have this problem in Israel. We may never know why…

    Bored

    September 24, 2015 at EST pm

  20. On the one hand, Lion doubts 9/11 is even taught in schools because of its political implications.

    On the other hand, Lion doesn’t think that a politically active Muslim family foresaw any political implications from bringing a clock redecorated as a miniature suitcase bomb (scale model!) to school on the first school day after 9/11.

    Lion also thinks that Ahmed’s sister’s bomb threat a few years ago is completely irrelevant and has no bearing on this family’s motivations or tendencies.

    FUCKING A Lion! This is not a courtroom. We don’t have strict rules of evidence to protect defendant and the standard is not reasonable doubt!

    Rusty Shackleford

    September 24, 2015 at EST pm

    • Based on a preponderance of the evidence (even including evidence that would be inadmissible in court such as his obviously less intelligent and less well behaved older sister getting suspended from school several years ago), I don’t believe Ahmed intended anyone to think his “invention” was a bomb.

      Sometimes a guy who looks like a nerdy kid is really just a nerdy kid.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at EST pm

      • 1. Mark Cuban spoke with Ahmed and said that the obviously less intelligent and worse behaved older sister was feeding Ahmed answers throughout the conversation.

        2. When Ahmed was questioned, he was uncooperative and refused to say anything more than “it’s a clock.” Ahmed’s goal was to ESCALATE the situation. He easily could have explained his “invention” or referred authorities to his engineering teacher (who told him not to show the clock around) but he didn’t.

        3. Ahmed has made comments in interviews that indicate that he foresaw the possibility of people being scared by his “invention.”

        Seriously, Lion, you’re embarassing yourself.

        I know 16 minutes is way too long for you, but your ignorance and idiocy leaves you no choice but to watch Stefan Molyneux’s full analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WV2EdDGq5I

        Rusty Shackleford

        September 24, 2015 at EST pm

  21. Obama’s invited him to the White House, and said “bring the clock.” What are the Secret Service going to do if he shows up? Not search him because Islamophobia?

    What if it is a bomb?!?!??!?!?! I’ll get started on the screenplay.

    DSGNTD_PLYR

    September 24, 2015 at EST pm


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