Lion of the Blogosphere

Ahmed on Comedy Central

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It’s annoying that the host of the show made Ahmed out like some sort of genius because he took apart a commercial LED clock and put the pieces into a pencil case. Ahmed admits that it only took him ten minutes.

However, my nerdar tells me that Ahmed is a genuine nerd (skinny and short for his age, and not good at public speaking), and not a diabolical mastermind who ingeniously created a device that would look just enough like a hoax bomb to get himself arrested, but not enough like a hoax bomb to be charged with the crime of bringing a hoax bomb to school. For whatever reason a nerdy 14-year-old boy thinks that, he thinks it’s cool to remove the electronic components of consumer electronics from their housings. He just craved attention for his hobby.

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I suspect the same people hating on Ahmed would defend the West Virginia 14-year-old white kid who was arrested for wearing an NRA t-shirt to school. Unlike Ahmed, the kid from West Virginia was definitely trying to annoy people. He was also far more physically mature for his age than Ahmed.

It’s wrong when the liberal MSM has a double standard, but it’s also wrong for conservatives to have a double standard.

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Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta writes:

I’m not sure I have enough info or context to condemn the kid and his pop for fishing for attention and sympathy with a stunt like that. To be sure some of the breathless praise from Mark Zuck… and Barry O’ for young Ahmed’s contributions to science are exaggerated. On the other hand the criticism of his project for failing to “invent” a clock are also off base.

We find plenty of educational value to have kids Ahmed’s age dissect frogs. None of those kids are “inventing” frogs. I always admire the kind of natural curiosity that prompts people to take things apart… even more-so if they can put it back together so it still works.

Young Ahmed is probably better off in an educational context where his natural curiosity can fuel his learning… perhaps a la Maria Montessori? Any of you guys have the benefit of Montessori method education? Seemed to work out alright for the elite of Silicon Valley… Otherwise our educational system seems more concerned with “safety” and babysitting our young in into “high-achieving” “well-credentialed” conformity when it takes some time off lionizing the jocks who actually pose a greater threat of bullying “terror” than any little nerd immigrant ever could.

Good luck Ahmed…

Good comment. Most other commenters here seem totally unable to imagine that a kid can be fascinated by taking things apart and putting them back together to try to figure out how they work. They cannot get over the fact that the kid is Muslim and the father is some sort of annoying activist.

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September 24, 2015 at 1:03 pm

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  1. The kid should have built a hoax bomb instead. Plain sailing to MIT.

    Glengarry

    September 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    • My problem isn’t with the kid. Everyday teens do dopey things. My problem is with the media. There was no reason for them to cover this story. It is not newsworthy. The president’s response is atrocious. He should not involve himself in this at all. He is dragging the office of the president way down by getting involved in this. His behavior is just bizarre. This should not have been covered by the media at all. It is nothing.

      not too late

      September 27, 2015 at 10:56 am

      • I can agree that the news media coverage has been way overdone. They still shouldn’t have called the police.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 27, 2015 at 4:28 pm

  2. Being concerned about whether something is “wrong” or a “double standard” is one way that Boomer and Gen-X conservatives have racked up such a long and impressive string of L’s in the culture wars.

    Fiddlesticks

    September 24, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    • But once Jonah Goldberg gets the New York Times to admit it employs a double standard, that will . . . wait, that’s nothing. Good point.

      bjdubbs

      September 24, 2015 at 5:35 pm

  3. The west seems doomed because ‘equal’ treatment only ever goes one way. The US is expected to (and does) go out of its way to be accommodating toward one of the most intolerant and violent religions in the history of the world.

    Meanwhile, in Islamic countries, Christians are regularly crucified and otherwise murdered for their faith. Ahmed and family are headed to Mecca, to swear their fealty to their intolerant faith in a country that uses the law to have apostates put to death.

    Through this process, the proportion of the world that appears civilized to our eyes keeps shrinking and shrinking, through tolerance that only ever goes one way.

    Dan

    September 24, 2015 at 2:10 pm

  4. I’m not sure I have enough info or context to condemn the kid and his pop for fishing for attention and sympathy with a stunt like that. To be sure some of the breathless praise from Mark Zuck… and Barry O’ for young Ahmed’s contributions to science are exaggerated. On the other hand the criticism of his project for failing to “invent” a clock are also off base.

    We find plenty of educational value to have kids Ahmed’s age dissect frogs. None of those kids are “inventing” frogs. I always admire the kind of natural curiosity that prompts people to take things apart… even more-so if they can put it back together so it still works.

    Young Ahmed is probably better off in an educational context where his natural curiosity can fuel his learning… perhaps a la Maria Montessori? Any of you guys have the benefit of Montessori method education? Seemed to work out alright for the elite of Silicon Valley… Otherwise our educational system seems more concerned with “safety” and babysitting our young in into “high-achieving” “well-credentialed” conformity when it takes some time off lionizing the jocks who actually pose a greater threat of bullying “terror” than any little nerd immigrant ever could.

    Good luck Ahmed…

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    September 24, 2015 at 2:40 pm

    • “Good luck Ahmed…”

      Luck not needed. He is set for life. Even if he turns out to have no engineering talent whatsoever, he is still guaranteed lucrative employment in some sinecure or as a professional diversity advocate. Lots of wealthy tech folks will be eager to gain social status through him.

      Dan

      September 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    • To be clear, I plea ignorance on the actual motives of Ahmed and his pop. All the descriptions of the father make him seem like a loony attention whore, who wouldn’t surprise any by using his son to win sympathy and fame. However none of us should be surprised if the media and pundits shape their coverage of this incident to fit a particular narrative. I reserve enough doubt that find it plausible that little Ahmed could be enough of a dork to undertake an innocent project of dissecting an old alarm clock. It’s just the kind of low-budget technology that a high school freshman might find accessible. Certainly he’s not going to do a teardown of something more expensive, difficult and dangerous… So when a kid shows some curiosity about understanding how things work, we should encourage it. Just like novice artists shouldn’t be discouraged in their creativity even if their first works aren’t exactly DaVinci. I don’t know what they’re teaching in schools nowadays, but so much of what I’m reading makes it sound like they’re discontinuing all vocational and technology programs to focus on standardized tests… Which is a real shame if you believe what they write in things like “Shop Class as Soulcraft” or “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.” I just wish they would give some background and foundation so he can make sense of the parts that go into his project and progress on to greater ambitions… Perhaps like building a real bomb? 😀

      I’m not defending Ahmed. I really don’t know enough about him to judge his motives. Nor do I have the time, energy or inclination to watch interviews to deduce anything more about his character. Nor do I think it matters. He’s probably a nerd. He’s definitely an immigrant. There are plenty of nerds and immigrants who are pains in the @rse. He may also be harmless or perhaps worthy of making some greater contribution to science and technology. If he’s got the horsepower between his ears, maybe he’ll one day be working in the labs of Intel, Qualcomm, Microsoft, etc. Heaven knows these organizations are filled with useful nerds and immigrants who didn’t chase the traditionally “cool” things favored by the “jocks” and “bros.”

      It’s just too bad that also many members of protected classes use their victim status as a shield and demand inclusion even if their behavior is asocial and difficult to integrate.

      Sure it’s possible perhaps even probable that Ahmed was fishing for attention like all the racism hoaxsters before him… bringing an imitation suitcase bomb instead of deploying fake nooses and phony KKK robes. On the other hand, there is no possible other explanation for phony white supremacy symbols and vandalism, while dissecting an alarm clock could have some innocent or educational rationale.

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      September 24, 2015 at 6:35 pm

      • You better give the guy the benefit of the doubt, if you want to head to academia in a humanities subject. If not, you’ll lose out on the comfy college towns, and the cute girls that roam around them!

        JS

        September 25, 2015 at 6:23 pm

      • And even in a STEM subject, given the high percentage of South Asian Muslim students, in those programs.

        JS

        September 25, 2015 at 6:25 pm

      • I look at Meriprolestan’s White demographic as a lost cause, who are now very anti-intellectual as a whole. Go visit any college/university library, in the most intellectual schools, and Whites, especially White women are nowhere to be found in large numbers, except during midterm/final time. They out frolicking, playing, kicking, and the women romping with alpha guys. And remember White women have surpassed White men in attendance, who flood the classrooms with fluff subjects, like Sociology and Journalism.

        JS

        September 25, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    • “the jocks who actually pose a greater threat of bullying ‘terror’ than any little nerd immigrant ever could” — many mass-murdering jihadis and jihad-supporters were and remain little nerds. Most of the physical defenders of the West against mass-murdering Muslims are jocks. Islam explicitly requires its adherents to conquer you and kill you if you don’t accept subjugation. No sporting organization requires this of its adherents. Furthermore, in the real world jocks hardly ever bully anyone. I was never, ever bullied by a jock. A few lower-working-class Guidos have threatened and tried to intimidate me and many street-trash Blacks have assaulted me. Not a single jock every bothered me.

      garr

      September 24, 2015 at 7:12 pm

      • “many mass-murdering jihadis and jihad-supporters were and remain little nerds.”

        Mohammed Atta — engineering nerd
        Ramza Yousef — engineering nerd

        They just wanted to take apart the World Trade Center to see how it works. Perfectly normal and understandable!

        Tarl

        September 25, 2015 at 8:09 am

      • They are both older and from Islamic countries that are known to have active jihadi movements. This 14-year-old kid from Texas has not been radicalized.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 25, 2015 at 9:26 am

      • Lion – your commentators have been showing their prolier side, full swing, with this Ahmed kid.

        Islamophobia is strictly a prole feeling.

        This Muslim hater, Robert Spencer, brands himself as an intellectual, hellbent on grinding Islam to the ground. To me he is a prole, and low status at that. He doesn’t even speak a lick of Arabic, and can’t even read the Qur’an in Arabic. He tries to challenge the status quo with the Academics at the Ivory Tower, who are PhDs, fluent in Arabic, with years of research under their belt and their comfy jobs. No high status individual will take him seriously. A few years ago, I had an opportunity to attend one of his talks at a college as they were kind enough to invite him to make his points. I threw a cream pie at his face, along with other attendees (mostly students).

        JS

        September 25, 2015 at 9:57 am

      • The Koran says a lot of really bad stuff. Most Muslims don’t take it completely literally. Unfortunately some do, and they join ISIS, etc.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 25, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      • “I threw a cream pie at his face, along with other attendees (mostly students).”

        JS, you were kidding, weren’t you? You actually threw food at someone who had or was making a speech? This doesn’t sound like you. Using food as a weapon is childish and prole. I thought you were a cultured, intellectual kind of man. What would Paul Fussell say? Don’t tell anyone in Montreal this. It might ruin your reputation.

        Maryk

        September 25, 2015 at 9:30 pm

      • Yes, I did throw a pie in his face. A student whom I knew decided to protest against this irrational hater where he brought in several cream pies for the act of protest. I was arrested along a few others, taken to the police precinct, and written up. This was in 2009, go look it up in Google.

        Montreal is haven for Muslims. So I have no problems at all!

        JS

        September 26, 2015 at 10:34 am

      • Garr is FOS with his comments again!

        JS

        September 26, 2015 at 10:35 am

      • Talking about al-Qaeda, this senior operative of the organization, Meriprole Adam Gadahn, who was killed by a US drone this year, had an interesting background. His grandpa was part of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, yet he was raised Protestant, before he converted to Islam, because he found American material culture, empty and phony. This goes to show that the hatred of Muslims, in particular, the virulent form found in Meriprolestan, is based on ignorance and irrationality.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

        Today, plenty of Right-o-Sphere Christian Proles, view Jews as allies and friends, and the State of Israel as a beckon of humanity in the Middle East. I betcha many of these chumps were stormweeny pricks who hated Jews before 9-11.

        JS

        September 26, 2015 at 11:37 am

      • It appears Lindsay Lohan is in the process of being a Muslim. Liam Neeson is a Muslim?

        http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/lindsay-lohan-converting-islam-mike-tyson-other-stars-who-became-muslims-1501277

        JS

        September 26, 2015 at 11:44 am

      • JS: stormweenies still hate Jews. Just go to Stormfront and look around.

        Antisemitism is usually one of the best ways I’ve found to tell the center-right from the far-right, oddly enough. Probably because you won’t get mugged walking at 2 AM through Scarsdale.

        SFG

        September 26, 2015 at 6:31 pm

  5. I think the precedence the media is setting here is very dangerous.

    bombs away

    September 24, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    • You mean we are about to experience a period of immersion into the culture of cute funny Muslims via sitcoms, news, and movies?

      Copperhead Joe

      September 24, 2015 at 10:22 pm

  6. I think the police over-reacted and Ahmad should not have been arrested.

    But there is something off here. The media reports that the police arrested him for bringing a bomb. At no point did the the police think he had a bomb. The issue was is it a hoax bomb.

    Prior to arresting him the police questioned him for 90 minutes. At this time he could have very easily explained the situation. The police report that he was evasive and vague. They said that if he was as forthright with them as he was with the media the issue would have been resolved. The spokesman for the school has said that there are important details the media has omitted and he cannot reveal due to privacy laws.

    Media is portraying this as a hillbilly school district. In fact the town has 5 Hindu temples, 1 Sikh temple, 2 free standing mosques, and an Islamic school from K to 12th grade (http://www.islamicschoolofirving.org/). Nerdy brown-skinned boys are not out of place in this town. The police probably encounter them all the times.

    Jimi

    September 24, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    • “In fact the town has 5 Hindu temples, 1 Sikh temple, 2 free standing mosques, and an Islamic school from K to 12th grade”

      In other words, it’s a fully colonized outpost of the third world.

      Well, when the Indians got sick of the white men in their land, they slaughtered a lot of them and chased the rest out. Maybe we’ll figure it out some day.

      peterike

      September 24, 2015 at 5:06 pm

  7. Lion, this is heartbreaking – you’re so rarely wrong. And yet, on this, wildly off base. I’m starting to think you’re goofing around. At least, I hope so.

    The kid is a liar and has been coached extensively. He’s not even that bright. His “side hoverboard” sounds stupider than something my six year old would come up with. He’s clearly into the attention in a way that a vanishingly small percentage of real nerds would be. I think he’s a fraud.

    He is still claiming that he “made” the clock, that he figured it all out, that some of the parts “were scrapped off.” All of this is blatant nonsense. It’s just a Radio Shack alarm clock stripped of the outer casing. Anyone old enough to wield a screw driver could “make” this “invention.”

    Jonah

    September 24, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    • lion identifies as a shy nerd, so he is biased.

      rivelino

      September 24, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    • i agree. lion is totally off base on this. larry wilmore is desperate to seem with it and praise the kid’s brilliance. the kid is pretending he “made” the clock, and even claims to have made a “CPU.” bullshit.

      i guess, we talk about the decline of STEM knowledge amongst the chattering classes, we get foolishness like praising this moronic kid.

      ralph

      September 25, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      • Whether the kid invented anything or not has NOTHING TO DO with whether he made a “hoax bomb.” There is much legitimate learning from taking things apart to see how they work, and that sort of curiosity should be encouraged.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 26, 2015 at 12:35 am

  8. It would be a double standard if the WV kid brought a fake gun

    harry flashman

    September 24, 2015 at 3:03 pm

  9. So cool that he’d bring it in to show his teacher? I’m sorry, but that just doesn’t pass the smell test. You act like this kid is six years old. He’s a freshman in High School and as evidenced by that video doesn’t seem afflicted with any mental incapacity. According to the press he builds his own radios and go karts. Those are the sort of things nerdy kids make and then show off. But taking the plastic housing off a cheap $5 alarm clock and tossing the contents in to a case? A nerdy kid would think the person that did that retarded and anybody who actually crowed about such a “feat” a complete tool.

    You are making much about the fact he built something “just enough to make it look like a bomb but not enough to get him arrested” but I think you are really over thinking it. He built something that looked like a fake bomb, and when it looked like a fake bomb he stopped because he had achieved his objective. He probably wasn’t even thinking the police would get involved because he figured that would be an insane overreaction (unfortunately, like many nerds his analysis was a bit too logical and failed to anticipate the irrationality of others). After all, his older sister made a bomb threat when she was younger and all that happened to her was a few days suspension.

    Perez HBD

    September 24, 2015 at 3:08 pm

  10. This is false equivalence, not double standard. Teachers and school administrators that consider a call to exercise a constitutional right ‘desturbing’ should be fired.

    Yakov

    September 24, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    • Please expand on this excellent point. Has our heretofore sensible host somehow lost his logical bearings? Or fogotten his law school cases? “Fuck the Draft” was nothing if not designed to annoy in 1968. Next to that what’s an NRA shirt?

      marty

      September 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm

  11. From your link,

    “Ahmed admitted that it was “kind of cool” to get arrested, but only because he knew he was innocent and that the courts would have his back”

    Would it be kind of cool to get arrested in an Islamic country as a Christian?

    Dan

    September 24, 2015 at 3:57 pm

  12. Lion,

    Do not mistake futile despair for hate. The “intellectuals” amongst “us” put forth their most extreme interpretation of any media-made-aware event. In this case, it’s all jihad or no jihad. This ricocheting cacophony of extreme interpretations is just what is required for a completely uncertain mass of sheepwalkers.

    The only solution is separation for those who desire separation. BUT, it is only sustainable if rooted in something sustained.

    thordaddy

    September 24, 2015 at 4:24 pm

  13. T-shirts don’t kill people, and the NRA isn’t explicitly dedicated to killing or permanently subjugating non-members.

    garr

    September 24, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    • The kid should have took off the NRA shirt as the teacher requested. At best the shirt is a distraction in the classroom. When the kid refused to take off his shirt, he should have been sent to the principal’s office and his parents should have been called.

      He should have been given a few days of detention for insubordination.

      Jimi

      September 24, 2015 at 6:27 pm

      • What would happen if a black kid was told to take off a Malcolm X t-shirt? We’ll never know because it will not happen.

        Yakov

        September 24, 2015 at 7:51 pm

      • The t-shirt didn’t distract anyone in a classroom as far as I can tell from media reports. It did catch the attention of a teacher in the hallway. Why do you think an NRA t-shirt would cause a classroom distraction in WV? He got arrested for insubordination, essentially. He wouldn’t shut up when told to by the cops. The kid had an attitude but I find it deliciously ironic that he was arrested for speaking about a t-shirt which said “protect your rights.”

        Polentone

        September 24, 2015 at 11:16 pm

      • There’s nothing inappropriate about wearing an NRA t-shirt. The teacher was simply trying to impose their leftwing views on a student.

        destructure

        September 25, 2015 at 12:32 am

  14. “Hating on” is repulsive Negro slang that actually means “jealous of”

    garr

    September 24, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    • Slang which has been adopted as basic by teens of every stripe, especially asians here in SF. This is what makes the educational system’s pretentions about “critical thinking” so ridiculous. Any criticism of anything is “hatin’ on.”

      marty

      September 24, 2015 at 5:00 pm

  15. An interesting experiment would be to do exactly what this Ahmed did and then show up at an Obama event unannounced. But if you die in a hail of gunfire, that would be an expensive experiment.

    Dan

    September 24, 2015 at 5:09 pm

  16. LotB: ingeniously created a device that would look just enough like a hoax bomb to get himself arrested, but not enough like a hoax bomb to be charged with the crime of bringing a hoax bomb to school.

    Clearly, it was a hoax “hoax bomb.”

    For whatever reason a nerdy 14-year-old boy thinks that, he thinks it’s cool to remove the electronic components of consumer electronics from their housings. He just craved attention for his hobby.

    Well, actually at a few years younger than 14, my friends and I thought it was cool to build model airplanes, tanks, and battleships then deconstruct them by blowing them up with firecrackers. Is that prole? At 14 y/o we had already aged out of little league and were more likely to be hanging around the video arcade playing pinball after school when we were not working our $2 per hour off-the-books menial jobs.

    E. Rekshun

    September 24, 2015 at 5:14 pm

  17. “I suspect the same people hating on Ahmed would defend the West Virginia 14-year-old white kid who was arrested for wearing an NRA t-shirt to school.”

    False analogy. Big difference between wearing a t-shirt and perpetrating a bomb hoax.

    destructure

    September 24, 2015 at 5:15 pm

  18. Either Ahmed is a good liar or he is that pitiful thing, a stupid nerd. I have met stupid nerds before (I was a smart nerd, and stupid nerds would ask me for technical help). They have nerdly emotions, they want to be nerds, they think tinkering is fun– but they are not smart enough to accomplish much. They are often encouraged by grade-school teachers or other well-intentioned-but-unsophisticated adults (“you want to build a clock, Ahmed? That’s great! I don’t know much about clocks myself but I hear Bill Gates built a clock when he was your age!”).

    Most stupid nerds eventually realize they aren’t cut out for engineering and find another hobby. A few, usually those trying to impress their families, just choose to fake it! Some show pathetic projects like Ahmed’s clock to non-technical people who will praise them for politeness’ sake. Some importune smarter nerds to “help them learn” by doing all the hard parts of a project for them– after which the stupid nerd displays the project as his own.

    Ahmed reminds me of a certain type of Indian-trained IT consultant which I have often encountered. They are incompetent engineers but passable con-men, devoted to faking it because that’s what their families demand. (You see their drool all over threads on sites like Stack Exchange, where they post snippets of requirements from their current engagements and beg for fully-coded solutions they can cut and paste into their projects.)

    Veracitor

    September 24, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    • Different kids also have different resources. Some have a family member or peer who can give them guidance and instruction as well as technical equipment like oscilloscopes and soldering stations. Although all else being equal you’d have to be that much stupider to not be able to build a clock with the internet compared to before the internet because that has definitely leveled the playing field quite a bit.

      Lloyd Llewellyn

      September 24, 2015 at 11:41 pm

  19. “Most other commenters here seem totally unable to imagine that a kid can be fascinated by taking things apart and putting them back together to try to figure out how they work. They cannot get over the fact that the kid is Muslim and the father is some sort of annoying activist.”

    I have no issue with the kid specifically. I have a problem with the fools at all levels who raise him up far beyond his extremely low level of accomplishment for the apparent motivation of bashing the wrong kind of Americans.

    I am not a gamer, but what drove gamers nuts and led to GamerGate was not that there were women in gaming or women gamers. What drove them nuts was completely unaccomplished women being lifted up on the basis of very poor technical output. When gamers asked, ‘why is this person being given all these accolades when the technical output is so poor, they were branded as a bunch of sexists. I had no dog in that fight but uplifting non-accomplishment for political reasons is bad for morale, in my view.

    Dan

    September 24, 2015 at 5:45 pm

  20. Lion, your Ahmed trolling is top-notch and you’ve been on a roll otherwise for the past couple of weeks. Please keep up the good work.

    Robert

    September 24, 2015 at 5:47 pm

  21. I suspect the same people hating on Ahmed would defend the West Virginia 14-year-old white kid who was arrested for wearing an NRA t-shirt to school.

    For this to be true it would have to be plausible to mistake a t-shirt for a gun. Lion, do you sometimes mistake t-shirts for guns?

    DSGNTD_PLYR

    September 24, 2015 at 5:47 pm

  22. Lion,

    I think that you are missing the point here. The motives and intentions of Ahmed are not what matter, though I think those who think the situation does not smell right are correct. What matters is that the reaction by the authorities was completely appropriate, given how authorities have acted in similar circumstances. If a school administration can interpret a pop-tart shaped like a gun as threatening enough to warrant a call to the police, then a pencil case looking like a bomb is equally reasonable. The authorities all acted appropriately given similar circumstances elsewhere.

    The media-led outrage toward the school is due to yet another anti-White meme: under no circumstances should a brown kid be inconvenienced by the rules that apply to White kids. It’s ok to handcuff white kids and accuse them of crimes. It is not ok to do so to brown kids. That is what this is about.

    map

    September 24, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    • So you agree that the kid is just a nerdy kid who likes to show adults is mediocre “inventions.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm

      • No, I don’t. His sister called in a bomb threat and his father completely overreacted. Those actions plausibly suggest this kid is involved in some way.

        map

        September 25, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    • That most school officials are stupid is no good reason not to criticize this instance of school officials being stupid. That the media reaction to this is out of control and hypocritical vs. what would happen if a similar thing happened to a white kid is no exculpation of the actions by the school officials. At the very best, they shouldn’t have suspended him after it all (though three days away from a US public school can only be a benefit to any young person not inclined toward criminal activity).

      Lion has it right on this one!

      chairman

      September 24, 2015 at 7:28 pm

  23. Ahmed’s older sister was suspended in connection with bomb scare in 2009.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/ahmeds-sister-admits-school-suspension-alleged-bomb-threat-3-years-earlier/

    The boy’s uncle appears to have registered a company called “Twin Towers Transportation Corporation.”
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/more-of-the-mohamed-familys-zany-sense-of-humor-twin-towers-transportation-corp/

    SQ

    September 24, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    • Some kind of histrionic personality disorder runs in the family, perhaps?

      jjbees

      September 24, 2015 at 7:13 pm

  24. NRA t-shirt? You sound like a Salon columnist.

    Perturabo

    September 24, 2015 at 7:36 pm

  25. Lion, you’ve jumped the shark on Ahmed.

    There’s *clearly* something fishy about this incident and this kids family. Let alone the media using this stunt as a hammer against “racist white america.”

    You have some kneejerk defense of Ahmed because you were a skinny nerd in high-school? Well, I was too and I still know this is fishy.

    fakeemail

    September 24, 2015 at 7:55 pm

  26. Lion is going through a bout of Islamophobia fatigue. If it doesn’t pass in a few days, take two Pamela Geller podcasts and subscribe to Dr. Bill Warner’s Political Islam channel.

    Mark Caplan

    September 24, 2015 at 8:00 pm

  27. Oh c’mon Lion. You’re agreeing with Obama on a law and order issue? Maybe someone should burglarize your house because you didn’t build that? Try boarding a plan with this clock. You better sit under a sun lamp for a couple of days because you’ll be in real jail if you’re lighter than a brown paper bag.

    Joshua Sinistar

    September 24, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    • Having actually boarded a plane with a bag full of electronics and wires everywhere, the most they will do is run a a bomb residue chemical test.

      map

      September 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm

  28. Lotb,
    I was just watching a video of a five year old “pilgrim” giving the pope a letter condemning the treatment of illegal immigrants in America. Do you think this was an unintentional act or condoned security breach? I wonder how many guns were trained on her resembling the scene of the Muslim boy carrying the grenade in the movie, American Sniper. Reality TV like Ahmed?

    cesqy

    September 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm

  29. Lion:

    This 6-minute video is by the USC medical technology professor Dr. Thomas Talbot (an Arab American) who originally broke open the tech side of this fraud. It neatly outlines why you’re so naive and should see the agenda behind this device and this family:

    Rusty Shackleford

    September 24, 2015 at 11:57 pm

    • It doesn’t say anything you haven’t already said. Just that the kid’s father is an evil Islamic activist trying to bring Sharia law to the U.S., so the kid must be guilty of something.

      Note that the father is a Sufi Muslim; they are a more liberal and tolerant sect of Islam.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 25, 2015 at 12:54 am

      • Oh well, if he’s a Sufi, then that changes everything!

        fakeemail

        September 25, 2015 at 1:08 am

      • What percentage probability would you assign to the hypothesis that Ahmed and/or his family planned this hoax?

        I’d be very interested to calibrate your certainty.

        I’d say there’s about a 99.9% chance that it was a deliberate hoax.

        Rusty Shackleford

        September 25, 2015 at 1:32 am

      • So the kid can’t possibly be just an innocent nerdy kid because his parents are MUSLIM? What a disgusting display of prejudiced thinking.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 25, 2015 at 9:23 am

      • Lion,

        It’s possible, just not probable.

        map

        September 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    • “So the kid can’t possibly be just an innocent nerdy kid because his parents are MUSLIM? What a disgusting display of prejudiced thinking.”

      Lion, you have more sympathy for those more distant from you than those closer. There is a word for ‘conservatives’ like that. And to boot, you have no kids of your own.

      Dan

      September 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm

      • I knew nerdy kids with Muslim parents when I was in high school. They were just nerdy kids and not terrorists.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 25, 2015 at 4:01 pm

  30. You can’t wear an NRA t-shirt in *West Virginia*? Wow, must not be the West Virginia I know and remember.

    Lot

    September 25, 2015 at 12:59 am

  31. Setting aside the hoax bomb questions, Ahmed’s invention contained a dangling, ungrounded 120 volt power transformer, which could have electrocuted a child or set the school ablaze. Not even the Council on American-Islamic Relations has argued that Ahmed obtained approval for his invention from Underwriters’ Laboratories.

    Mark Caplan

    September 25, 2015 at 10:32 am

  32. I agree the kid comes across as a Standard Nerd. Now, did the scheming dad and sister foresee the possibility of his being harassed with a bomb-looking clock, but gleefully send him on his way to school anyway? Or, did he secretly like the idea of freaking people out, but didn’t intend for it to become an international headline? The only suspicious part of this story is, why did he plug it in during English class after being warned not to show it to other teachers? Could he just not keep his mind off his brilliant invention?

    I’ve read that taking things apart is a sign of intelligence. I hope so, because flashlights, radios and clocks never last more than an hour in my house before being entirely disassembled. Except my kids never put anything back together. This becomes a great irritation during power outages.

    slithy toves

    September 25, 2015 at 11:03 am

    • “The only suspicious part of this story is, why did he plug it in during English class after being warned not to show it to other teachers?”

      Allegedly it was beeping, the teacher, annoyed by the distraction asked what was beeping, the kid showed it and plugged it in.

      If they had suspended him for bringing a beeping electronic device to school, no one would have ever heard of Ahmed and it would have been end of story.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 25, 2015 at 4:00 pm

      • Why was it beeping before being plugged in? Did it have a battery?

        slithy toves

        September 25, 2015 at 6:34 pm

      • Theres an empty 9 volt battery connector in the picture.

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        September 25, 2015 at 9:08 pm

  33. “I closed it with a cable, because I didn’t want to lock it to make it seem like a threat, so I just used a simple cable, so it wouldn’t look that much suspicious.”

    Not plausible. He admits the device already looks suspicious and possibly “like a threat.” What kind of “threat” could it appear to be other than a bomb? A menacing, undocumented time-telling gizmo?

    His solution to the problem, he claims, was not to use the built-in clasp like a normal person. No, he wrapped a cable around it to reduce its bomb-like appearance. If I expect people to think the item I carry is a bomb, the first thing I do to allay their fears is to wrap a cable around it.

    When a teacher confirms my belief that the contraption looks suspicious and tells me not to show it to anyone else, I keep showing it people until I provoke a reaction. No I wasn’t trying to provoke a reaction why would you think that?

    chedolf

    September 25, 2015 at 11:17 am

  34. Lion,

    I would love to calibrate the certainty of your opinion.

    What percentage probability do you assign to the theory that ClockGate is the product of some scheme by Ahmed and/or his family?

    Rusty Shackleford

    September 25, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    • 1%.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 25, 2015 at 4:01 pm

      • 99.9% and 1% are both nutty estimates. You guys both suck at this

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        September 25, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      • Lloyd, what odds would you set?

        Rusty Shackleford

        September 25, 2015 at 9:27 pm

      • ~40% chance Ahmed came up with a hoax. ~15% chance Lion is trolling with this issue.

        Lion, tell us you’re trolling and put me in my place!

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        September 27, 2015 at 2:13 am

      • “Came up with a hoax” is a terrible phrasing. 40% that it was someones intention to get a reaction that they could then publicize.

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        September 27, 2015 at 2:15 am

  35. This pretty much amounts to nothing, but Investors Business Daily has done a thorough investigation of this incident, and they feel that it played out exactly as intended. The kid is just 14 years old and was only doing what his father told him to do, but, even so, the response has been way over the top. Just as planned. Read the article before you decide.

    Black Death

    September 25, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    • I’d actually buy that. Who says it couldn’t be *both*? Dad’s a scheming activist, kid’s a nerd, so he gets the kid to rig up some clock he’s playing with so it looks like a bomb, cue media response and pro-Muslim blowback, and now they’re talking about MIT.

      SFG

      September 26, 2015 at 6:34 pm

  36. What exactly do ‘diabolical masterminds’ look like anyway? Swivel chair, persian cat, maps of the world covered in flashing dots, hidden island bunker?

    Of course no-one thinks he is a diabolical mastermind. But your use of hyperbole to discredit oppposing views certainly makes for a more entertaining blog. Had you become a lawyer you’d have made jury service a riot.

    prolier than thou

    September 25, 2015 at 3:36 pm

  37. Where does this rank among your troll posts?

    Top 3?

    Rifleman

    September 25, 2015 at 4:26 pm

  38. Lion…

    I have a fourteen year old son and it is quite clear that you are deceptively, but TRUTHFULLY, talking down this kid’s actual nerdy intelligence, BUT absolutely underestimating his actual intelligence. You are right that he is no mastermind, but then fledging little jihadists are, by definition, not masterminds rather just good minions.

    thordaddy

    September 25, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    • He’s not a jihadist. If even 1% of Muslims were jihadists, things would be blowing up left and right. Sorry, but the liberals are right.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 25, 2015 at 4:50 pm

      • There are layers to Jihad.

        At the outer layer are the Muslims who, when there is a terrorist attack, feel joy for the suffering of the infidel or worry, first and foremost, for loss of Muslim reputation.

        Rusty Shackleford

        September 25, 2015 at 9:23 pm

      • Or, to add to that, yearn for the demographic swamping of the West.

        Rusty Shackleford

        September 25, 2015 at 9:24 pm

  39. I’m tired of little Boom-Boom’s antics, so let me ask something else of the readers: where were you on 9/11?

    Fairly prosaic for my part, I was in Europe and got a phone call from a friend to turn on the TV. At first it felt unreal, like someone was trying to do Orson Welles’ martian hoax.

    Glengarry

    September 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    • In the office at Rockefeller center.

      Yakov

      September 25, 2015 at 6:53 pm

      • We were watching the news in the conference room after the first plane hit the towers when the second plane hit. The broadcaster was totally at loss for words saying in disbelief: ‘The second plane just hit the World Trade Center! What are the chances of another accident like this? What are the chances?….’

        Yakov

        September 26, 2015 at 9:27 pm

      • 9-11 didn’t do a thing that matters to most Murkans, especially with Murkan women. Money and sex in exchange. After 9-11, is when you saw a trend of hot women, moving into the Big Apple to find wealthy men, especially the Wall St, and other value transference fields. No doubt, Wall St was even more powerful than previously, where there was more money to take than the pre-2K NYC.

        Post 9-11 was the golden days for the Meatpacking District, which was a repository of gold digging, yet very attractive whores, wanting to meet wealthy men at the bars and clubs. This is of course, came to end during the 2008 Wall St crash.

        JS

        September 27, 2015 at 11:01 am

      • Did that start your HVAC career?

        Glengarry

        September 27, 2015 at 12:44 pm

      • @glengarry

        Not at all. I wanted to be a real prole for a while. Had a chip on my shoulders from my communist upbringing. Sort off like Obama with Islam, I had that deep seated feeling that being a prole is the real thing in life, and in some ways I think it is.

        Yakov

        September 27, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    • 6th grade, building model airplanes in shop class!

      chairman

      September 25, 2015 at 10:09 pm

      • And crashing them into model buildings?

        Glengarry

        September 27, 2015 at 12:45 pm

  40. I was home with the kids, barefoot and pregnant. Initial reports stated the tunnels beneath the towers had collapsed so for about two hours I thought I was a widow (I wasn’t).

    slithy toves

    September 25, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    • Yikes.

      Glengarry

      September 27, 2015 at 12:45 pm

  41. I have to wonder what just happened here. Lion has suddenly jumped on the Islamophobia bandwagon as though it were a real thing. Have you seen anyone persecuting Muslims around here? I suppose some people want to believe that this Sudanese kid really wanted to have a clock he could carry around in a metal pencil box. Because timepieces are hard to find in America right? Its not as though there are any small timepieces you could just strap onto your wrist or something like maybe an Apple Smartwatch. What is this the Star Trek universe? Next you’ll tell me there are small hand held devices you can use to call people. Its just a TV show, get a life and a girlfriend, but stay away from those Green girls cause they’ll kill you.
    This kid might be the New Steve Jobs of Africa. Just think about all the people lining up for a timepiece they can carry around in a small metal case. Sure, you might not be able to sell it at an Apple Store, but Radio Shack might carry it…

    Joshua Sinistar

    September 25, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    • I’m not jumping on any bandwagon. The kid seems innocent. They shouldn’t have called the police. That’s all there is to it.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 25, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      • They absolutely SHOULD have called the police. If a white kid brought in this thing that looks like a bomb it’s the teachers responsibility to call it in.

        You’re basically saying that because Ahmed is muslim they should have ignored that he brought in something that looks like a bomb.

        Your credibility is fading. . .

        fakeemail

        September 25, 2015 at 9:51 pm

      • A circuit board in a box doesn’t look like a bomb, it looks like a circuit board in a box.

        A real bomb would just use a cell phone as a timer.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 25, 2015 at 10:52 pm

  42. Check out Heartiste’s new post Lion. You’ve triggered him with this one.

    chairman

    September 25, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    • The guy was a lot more fun before he went full Nazi.

      SFG

      September 26, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    • CH is a testament of Meriprolestan’s low brow prole and lack of culture. I see no value in attractive Meriprolesses, with the exception of sex and manipulation (American women are fun to play with, in terms of mind games). This should be the norm for normal men in this country.

      JS

      September 27, 2015 at 10:25 am

      • Being a self employed person, with a quite number of female following, I was able to learn sale techniques that are in line with the PUA/Manosphere types. The only drawback is that asking women to open their wallets for essential services, seems a bit harder than asking them to drop their underwear, and hit the sack.

        JS

        September 27, 2015 at 10:29 am

      • @JS

        Playing mind games and manipulating women to open their wallets and hit the sack is high culture. What else? Or is this it?

        Yakov

        September 27, 2015 at 6:09 pm

  43. Even if it was calculated scheme I still support the kid 100%. Few things give me more pleasure than ridiculing people who are afraid of Muslims. The school officials and police in this case have been exposed as a bunch of sniveling cowards. In a just world the whole sorry bunch would be fired and forfeit their pension rights.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    September 27, 2015 at 8:30 am

  44. The Comedy Central is an idiot show. The idiot does all the talking and puts words into kid’s mouth. Np real questions or answers there. How about asking him about why he brought the ‘clock’ to school? How was that ‘clock’ supposed to showtime? Why and how it beeped in class? Ask the kid to tell about his sister’s suspension for bringing in a hoax bomb? Ask him what he knows about 9/11? How about inviting the teacher to tell his side of the story? A totally idiotic show. People actually watch this stupidity?

    Yakov

    September 27, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    • To be fair, it would be very mean-spirited to grill a nerdy and shy 14-year-old.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm

      • Why asking pertinent questions is considered grilling? Let’s see the clock, let him explain how he made it and what it does, and let us judge for ourselves. If he is too fragile to handle it, don’t invite him to an adult show.

        Yakov

        September 27, 2015 at 4:41 pm


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