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Release the manifesto

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Is it just me or is anyone else INFURIATED with the (apparently) new police/media conspiracy to “filter” essential details of these killers’ backgrounds and self-descriptions of the motivations behind their actions?

The authorities in Virginia REFUSE to release the 23-page “manifesto” (suicide note) of the wacko ex-TV reporter who killed his former co-workers. Note as well that ABC, which was originally sent the material and duly turned it over to police, also REFUSES to release it publicly. Now, we have another “manifesto” (suicide note) left behind at the community college shooting scene in Oregon. All the news organizations refer to it in passing, but I haven’t heard a single one of them demanding its release.

What am I missing here? Are these documents not essential to understanding what demons drove the perpetrators of these outrages to their acts? With highly developed skills at textual deconstructions and interpretation available everywhere today, do these sources not represent a wealth of information for study, consideration, and debate? Instead, we have intensely ideological pundits and ‘experts’ pontificating and reporters digging through various internet ravings and former neighbors’ recollections in order to construct “portraits” of these disturbed individuals that serve only to support their chosen social narratives. All is speculation, conflation, and obfuscation.

Let’s have the raw data, please. Then, we’ll analyze it ourselves and form our own conclusions. What an absolute outrage that these materials are withheld from the “free” American public!

Advice to future mass murderers: post your manifestos online so people can read them.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 3, 2015 at 11:34 am

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  1. Thats why Sodini nailed it. Best lovelorn beta manifesto ever


    October 3, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    • Sodini was an outlier for a mass shooter (the beta rage types). He was in his middle age, when he shot up a bunch of women. Most of these sexually frustrated males are in their early 20s, when their hormones are raging.


      October 5, 2015 at 1:46 pm

  2. If it’s done uniformly, it’s a good idea since it discourages copycats. My main concern is that the media will be selective in what is released, i.e. release stuff only if it supports the Narrative.


    October 3, 2015 at 1:51 pm

  3. The reason is that we don’t want to give these losers more attention that they deserve.


    October 3, 2015 at 2:19 pm

  4. Why are they hiding it?

    Because these manifestos reveal the race and religious hatred toward white people.


    October 3, 2015 at 5:28 pm

  5. Because they probably make sense.


    October 3, 2015 at 5:33 pm

  6. This reminds me of the lost Columbine “Basement Tapes”, which were video tapes of the killers which had never been released to the public. After years of denying requests for release, the local police department finally admitted to destroying the tapes just recently.


    October 3, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    • Had not heard that about Columbine. Also interesting that supposedly the Sandy Hook shooters computer drive was completely destroyed and unreadable. I’m not an expert but I’m very skeptical that nothing was recoverable from the drive. What did he do to it? I’m sure white collar criminals and cartel types would love to know what he did to complately destroy his drive so that nothing could be recovered. What seems more likely is that the information they did recover did not fit the establishment narrative for the crime, although I don’t have any theory about what it might have contained.

      Paul Rise

      October 3, 2015 at 8:11 pm

  7. My professional experience with reading suicide notes is that there is a bimodal distribution. They are either completely crazy or completely sane.

    Matt Watson

    October 3, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    • What kind of worrk do you do?

      ice hole

      October 4, 2015 at 2:05 am

  8. People can be incredibly closed-minded when it comes to these “manifestos.”

    After the Elliot Rodger incident, I had a debate on the psychiatry subforum of the Student Doctor Network. Almost all the posters there were assuming Elliot was a narcissist. They knew this by the fact that he killed a bunch of people and wrote a long document about himself and sent it to the media. When I replied that no, he had sent it to people he knew, they pointed out that he had in fact sent it to one news station. That fact, that out of the 130-odd entities he had sent it to, one was a news station, proved to them that his real motivation was grandiosity and publicity.

    When I tried to inform them of Elliot’s extreme social anxiety, as outlined in his autobiography, they said that nothing in his autobiography could be trusted, because he was an evil murderer; the whole thing could be a pack of lies for all we know. I said they should read it for themselves. They said even to read it at all would just be giving him the “credit” or “attention” he was seeking, and in fact I had been snookered by him in reading it. I said that, well, if they weren’t going to read it then they shouldn’t be commenting on his motivation. They replied that they knew all they needed to know from the fact that he killed people, wrote a manifesto, and sent it to the media.

    When I tried to point out that he was not narcissistic, but rather had extremely low self-esteem, they said that narcissism is at its core a cover-up for low self esteem. One poster, who evidently knew psychoanalytic theory quite well, said that narcissistic personality disorder is a psychoanalytic diagnosis, we wouldn’t even have the concept without psychoanalysis, and that Elliot was a textbook example of a narcissist, someone who puts an inflated public face to the world (referring to Elliot’s statements about being “superior,” a “true alpha male, etc.,) to cover up deep feelings of inadequacy. I couldn’t really counter this, since he seemed to know more about the topic than I did. But when I tried to point out that the few self-important statements he made were dwarfed by all the expressions of low self-esteem, I ran back up against the counterargument that we have no reason to trust his autobiography at all and we shouldn’t read it because that would give him credit.

    Essentially, any attempt to engage with anything the killer had told us about himself was met with the interlocutor sticking his fingers in his ears and saying “la la la, I can’t hear you!”


    October 3, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    • Ha, yeah I used to read SDN back when I was interested in PhD programs in clinical psychology. I’m surprised you could even have that deep of a discussion there. They are hopelessly blue pill.

      Yeah narcissism is typically considered a manifestation of insecurity. I’m not an expert, but I read one time that there are compensatory and true narcissists. A compensatory narcissist uses a guise of narcissism to protect themselves from pain, while true narcissists truly believe the bullshit they spew.


      October 4, 2015 at 4:38 am

      • Yes, the person I mentioned started talking about compensatory vs. true narcissists, so I couldn’t really counter what he was saying because he could just claim that Elliot was a compensatory narcissist.

        Still, I felt that no one who actually read what Elliot wrote could conclude that his primary problem, and motivation for his shooting, was narcissism.

        As other commenters here have been mentioning, if one of these shootings doesn’t fit the liberal narrative, the media just doesn’t want to talk about it. Remember all the people for whom the Elliot Rodger shooting was evidence of how problematic “toxic masculinity,” patriarchy, etc. still are? Elliot was bullied a lot as a child, but people didn’t want to hear about that because they wanted to believe that since he targeted (or intended to target) women, his main motivation was misogyny. If he had been gay, the whole thing would have been attributed to bullying.

        Same thing with Chris Harper Mercer. Because he was half-black and anti-Christian, it’s being made into merely a gun control issue. And the left is furious about any mention of “mental illness” because they think that’s an attempt to excuse white racists, misogynists, and homophobes because they never get blamed for their crimes unlike black shooters who supposedly get blamed for being black.


        October 4, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    • Elliot Rodger wrote a good enough manifesto that is fairly engrossing with his philosophical outlook, account of his life and his travails. He didn’t trick you; his writing is interesting. If it wasn’t, you would have assessed it would not be worth your time.

      So if those prospective psychiatrists are liberal, then those liberalism is quite pathetic.

      America has freedom of speech and freedom of the press, unlike communist countries, so in theory, the context of the media should not be censored. If I were to benefit from this, I want the press to report about the manifesto of the shooter.


      October 4, 2015 at 8:07 am

    • I love psychology, but I’m not sure its actually a science anymore. Its gone PC crazy. Now they want to pathologize cisnormal AKA heterosexual behavior and think boys are too rambunctious. They have all sorts of pseudoscientific terminology that might as well come from the Feminist Fat Farm of gender confusion. Have you seen any psychologists calling out the body dysmorphic disorder of “Caitlyn” Jenner? I haven’t. That’s a bona fide real mental illness there, but they’re all too busy trying to find ways to call Christians and people who don’t want to be taxed for Global Warming sick. This is like the Fake Bogus Psychiatrists in the Soviet Union who made fake diagnostic reasons to lock up dissidents who were protesting the purges. Science is nothing but fraud now.

      Joshua Sinistar

      October 6, 2015 at 3:11 am

  9. speaking of suicides, lion when are you going to finally dive into red pill knowledge.


    October 3, 2015 at 10:40 pm

  10. Do you think we’ll ever get to see this guy’s mother?


    October 4, 2015 at 12:01 am

  11. This is about the Bullshit no notoriety campaign.


    October 4, 2015 at 2:02 am

  12. From The Conservative Treehouse:

    The photo on the right was shown on CNN. They have clearly photoshopped it: the obvious lightening of his skin, but they also made his nose thinner and his lips thinner and wider. In short, more Caucasian in every way.

    Gee, think they have an agenda?


    October 4, 2015 at 2:53 am

    • That’s taking it pretty far. If CNN actually did that, I’d expect more sources to be reporting it than that one, and with more evidence than that. There’s a reason they don’t say at what time or on what program the altered photo was shown.


      October 4, 2015 at 10:10 am

  13. Any foot-dragging means it Does Not Fir The Narrative.

    If his manifesto was a Tea Party scream of rage against the Left, you can bet we’d have seen every word the night he did the crime.


    October 4, 2015 at 3:52 am

  14. Mercer was probably just imitating the Columbine guys; one of them asked a victim if she was Christian before shooting her. The shooting itself seems heavily inspired by Cho at Virginia Tech.


    October 5, 2015 at 3:03 pm

  15. Lion are you saying Christians are part of the establishment? Which Christians? What time are you living in? Does your internet connection reach us from the 1950s? Sure the Pope is being celebrated by the media. But that guy is talking about social justice and global warming. People have said for years the Catholic Church was worshipping Satan, and apparently they were right. This old poop wants to save the planet and he wants the US Government and the UN to do it? I guess he didn’t know who else to ask eh?

    Joshua Sinistar

    October 6, 2015 at 3:17 am

    • “Lion are you saying Christians are part of the establishment?”

      The media/elite establishment is liberal, not Christian.

      However, I am saying that the shooter may have perceived that Christians were the establishment that was oppressing him. And as he lived in a small town and not in New York City, there may have been more of a basis for his perception.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 6, 2015 at 10:16 am

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