Lion of the Blogosphere

Evidence of declining IQ

A survey of social media reveals that many people who saw The Martian believed it was based on a true story.

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The reality, of course, is that our space traveling ability peaked in 1969. We no longer even have the ability to send anyone to the moon, let alone Mars.

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Just as the Great Pyramid was the tallest man-made structure for 3,800 years, I predict that it will be several thousand years before men return to the moon.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 8, 2015 at 10:41 pm

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  1. Jesus Christ. We’re doomed.


    October 8, 2015 at 10:43 pm

  2. bullshit. we have pretty sophisticated capabilities with the mars rover as it is. they are preparing crews for year-long missions in the desert.


    October 8, 2015 at 11:06 pm

  3. Anyone who would spend that much money to see a movie…

    Socially Extinct

    October 8, 2015 at 11:06 pm

  4. Science is the new religion! I would rather people believe in the bible as the literal truth, a good way of teaching middle class values, than people being atheists. Atheists can be convinced of anything as long as you use the words “A new study…” or “Scientists report…”


    October 8, 2015 at 11:13 pm

    • “Atheists can be convinced of anything….” Interesting. Which study are you citing?

      Mark Caplan

      October 9, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      • Fedora tipping quarterly.


        October 9, 2015 at 1:40 pm

  5. I think your prediction is ridiculous. We went from hot air balloon technology to landing men on the moon in less than 200 years. The reason we aren’t landing men in the moon now has nothing to do with declining IQ. Well okay, it is partially due to intelligence. There is no intelligent reason to put men on the moon right now. We did it in the 60s for cold war propaganda reasons mostly. Today, anything we would want to do on the moon could be done more cheaply with machines rather than men. We have the ability. We just don’t have the will.


    October 8, 2015 at 11:34 pm

    • ” There is no intelligent reason to put men on the moon right now.”

      And there was no intelligent reason to build the Great Pyramid 4,500 year ago. Yet nevertheless, a great and wondrous achievement.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 9, 2015 at 12:25 am

      • What’s so great about slavery?

        Cliff Dongle

        October 9, 2015 at 7:28 am

      • “What’s so great about slavery?”

        As expected, SJWs dislike human accomplishment because equality. But it wasn’t slaves that built the pyramids.

        In any case human accomplishment like that is awesome for everybody. Working class schlubs were as thrilled as anyone when we (yes, WE) walked on the moon. People all across society felt like winners.

        Remember the Onion headline… It was kind of like that.


        October 9, 2015 at 9:22 am

      • Toad

        October 9, 2015 at 10:13 am

      • There is a limit to how many pyramids you want to build “because wondrous achievement.”

        There is a limit to how many times you want to send men to the moon “because wondrous achievement.”

        We reached that limit in 1972.

        Some years back I did a research project on rationales to return men to the moon. There really aren’t any good ones. Robots, maybe, but not people.


        October 9, 2015 at 10:38 am

    • Slavery is the free market followed to its natural conclusion.


      October 9, 2015 at 2:44 pm

  6. We are successfully sending robots to Mars. We did not have that ability in 1969, and many of the early Mars missions failed.

    George AngryDad

    October 8, 2015 at 11:54 pm

  7. Have you read “The Right Stuff” by Tom Wolfe?

    I just started it this week, so this is a poignant post.
    Mankind’s greatest achievement was putting a man on the moon- simply incredible.


    October 9, 2015 at 12:03 am

    • Western civilization’s greatest achievement was putting a man on the moon. I fixed it for you.


      October 9, 2015 at 12:42 am

      • Fast forward 45 years, and we have President Barack Hussein Obama’s NASA administrator saying the purpose of NASA is to increase Muslims’ self-esteem.


        October 9, 2015 at 9:14 am

      • AMERICA’S greatest achievement.

        There, fixed it for you.


        October 9, 2015 at 10:39 am

      • @Tarl
        You are a moron. Without German rocket scientists there would be no Neil Armstrong on the moon. Therefore, WESTERN CIVILIZATION’S greatest achievement. America is not the whole world anymore.


        October 9, 2015 at 11:17 am

      • Not Wesley, you are a moron. America could and would have gone to the moon without any Germans.

        But even accepting your idea that German scientists were needed:

        German rocket scientists in Germany did not enable Germany to go to the moon.

        German rocket scientists in the USSR did not enable the USSR to go to the moon.

        German rocket scientists in Egypt did not enable Egypt to go to the moon (or even to miss the moon and hit Israel).

        Only German scientists in America could help America go to the moon.

        Only AMERICA had the key resources (money, technology, and engineering) needed to go to the moon.

        Going to the moon was an AMERICAN achievement.

        Fuck yeah!


        October 9, 2015 at 4:41 pm

      • @Tarl
        You must be trying to troll. There is no possibility that you actually believe what you wrote. America is an offshoot of Europe and part of Western Civilization. You also do not seem to quite understand the history of the Soviet space program either, read a book. America is dead so you can stop your America fuck yeah b.s. 30% of the country is Hispanic and Black, is that America? No, that is the third world, America fuck yeah! I am done with you.


        October 9, 2015 at 11:46 pm

      • NotWesley, you remain a moron. America is part of “Western civilization” but that does not mean “Western civilization” gets credit for everything America ever does. “Western civilization” consists of distinct nations that have distinct achievements (and failures). The Apollo program was a distinctly AMERICAN achievement that NO OTHER NATION deserves credit for.

        I know more about the Soviet space program than you, and it supports my point not your idiotic non-points. The Soviets had lots of very competent German rocket scientists but this did not enable the Soviets to get to the moon. And hey, Russia is part of “Western civilization” — so by your logic the USSR gets credit for the Apollo program too, right?

        As for your “America is dead and overrun with minorities” blather — if it is true, SO WHAT? This is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to the discussion at hand, which is the America of the 1950s and 1960s. That nation was NOT dead or overrun with stupid NAMs; that nation and NO OTHER NATION landed men on the moon.

        America, fuck yeah!


        October 10, 2015 at 7:52 am

  8. What’s the benefit of walking on the moon or building pyramids?


    October 9, 2015 at 12:54 am

    • Civilization-wide self-actualization.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 9, 2015 at 7:53 am

      • So, we checked that box… why do we need to keep re-checking it?

        Maybe the Chinese will need to go do it in order to self-actualize (and poke a finger in our eye). More power to ’em.

        The fact of the matter is that there are definite limits to how much money you can get a democracy to spend on “self-actualization”. Again, we reached that limit in 1972.


        October 9, 2015 at 10:43 am

    • NASA has produced tons of positive externalities in technology. Extremely ambitious projects based on creating new scientific and technological innovations can only be a good thing.


      October 9, 2015 at 7:35 pm

  9. The IQ will go back up when embryonic selection becomes available. It will rapidly become ubiquitous as it won’t be that expensive and no one will want to have (relatively) retarded kids. It could also be pitched as screening out severe mental deficiencies.

    I actually think that IQ based embryonic selection is possible today, but it would probably require one to get a decent number of late term abortions, and I don’t know how large the benefit would be.


    October 9, 2015 at 1:34 am

    • The genomicists have been blowing smoke up nerd’s asses for a very long time now. There is zero evidence that genetic engineering or embryo selection work any better than breeding for complex traits like intelligence. We simply don’t know why some people are merely average in intelligence and others not. The track record for genomics based approaches to anything with mammals (disease prediction, trait engineering) is failure. DNA is a nerd False God.


      October 9, 2015 at 9:17 am

      • Yes, but for breeding you have to choose your partner, whereas for embryo selection you just choose your embryo from among those produced by you and your partner.


        October 9, 2015 at 9:34 am

      • I don’t think embryo selection has any evidence it works at all, is what I meant to say. It’s a silly scifi idea.


        October 9, 2015 at 10:33 am

      • If you wanted to have smart progeny, you would still be more likely to achieve it with a smart partner than with a dumb partner because the total number of interlligence-conferring alleles you and the smart partner possess would be greater than the total number of intelligence-conferring alleles possessed by you and a dumb partner.


        October 9, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      • “There is zero evidence that genetic engineering or embryo selection work any better than breeding for complex traits like intelligence”

        I don’t see eugenic “breeding” of humans happening anytime soon. Most people want to have children and I think that it’s unethical to deny them that right, even if they have below average IQs. We could have a one-child only policy (implicitly) targeted at low IQ individuals. That would be a good idea, but I also don’t see it getting traction in the near future.

        In my mind, the evidence that embryo selection could work relies on two claims:

        1. We’ll be able to identify the genes that cause IQ differences in humans.
        2. Different fertilized eggs produced by a couple will have a certain amount of IQ variance.
        3. We can screen those fertilized eggs or embryos and implant those with the highest predicted IQs.

        Which of these steps do you think will be unsuccessful? I think that, if you could make it work, it would change mean IQ faster than all but the most extreme selective breeding program. You could imagine fertilizing thousands of eggs and only implanting the few with the highest predicted IQ.

        I would actually like to do the mathematics on this.

        “We simply don’t know why some people are merely average in intelligence and others not”

        There’s been some progress with GWAS for IQ. It’s kind of a grind because there are millions of SNPs and you need big sample sizes to achieve statistical significance. Or perhaps you need samples that are more extreme (lots of high and low IQ individuals). All of this work takes time.

        Of course, I can point to specific genetic conditions that we know about that tend to lower IQ.


        October 9, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      • @ Alex –

        I think that one reason embryo selection for intelligence will take a while to become widespread even if your other conditions are achieved is that it would take foresight on the part of prospective parents. Already intelligent parents probably possess it, but I’m skeptical that ordinary people will give up having children the old-fashioned way. Also consider how many unplanned pregnancies there are these days.


        October 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm

      • “Also consider how many unplanned pregnancies there are these days.”

        I wonder how many of today’s pregnancies are truly unplanned. Unless a woman is just slightly above retardation level there is no excuse for this. Birth control is readily available and is inexpensive. My guess is that most “unplanned” pregnancies are woman trying to trap men into marrying them or women who are opting for single motherhood by choice but won’t admit to it because they’re afraid of being accused of irresponsibility or selfishness. I mean who really knows if she forgot to take her pill or if the condom broke. Unless you were there when said incident occurred you have nothing but her word. People who criticized the sexual revolution years ago warned that a more cavalier attitude about premarital sex would lead to this. Read literature in the 1950’s and 1960’s and you’ll see how analysts were naively assuming that almost 100% of women would be using birth control so the illegitimacy rate would go down. This is why I’m a social conservative. Liberals of any stripe just don’t understand human nature.


        October 10, 2015 at 11:54 am

      • We don’t need to know in detail how it works, all we need is to identify certain gene sequences that have a high correlation with high IQ.


        October 10, 2015 at 12:32 pm

      • We could have a one-child only policy (implicitly) targeted at low IQ individuals. That would be a good idea, but I also don’t see it getting traction in the near future.

        It’s evident that preventing undesirables from breeding would be easier to implement (deepo provera, tubal ligation, vasectomies, etc) than getting desireables to have more children.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 11, 2015 at 1:51 pm

  10. If you want to know why we don’t have a space program anymore see this:“>%27Whitey%20on%20the%20Moon%27:%20Race,%20Politics,%20and%20the%20death%20of%20the%20U.S.%20Space%20Program,%201958%20-%201972<img%20src="
    I bet none of you realize that the blacks during the Civil Rights Movement protested the Space Program because it was diverting money from feeding their fat lazy asses? That's right honkey! We don't need no stinking rockets, wes got black babies for you to feed. Who gonna take care of my kids? They be hungry you racist!

    Joshua Sinistar

    October 9, 2015 at 2:33 am

    • We gave up the stars to make the n*****’s happy.

      And oh crap, they’re still not happy…


      October 9, 2015 at 10:44 am

      • JS, I just watched a couple of video clips with Bolden in them. His record seems to be pretty good though he sounds like a blog standard politician to me.

        Given his job is administration and he’s what an Obama appointee not research its reasonable enough. I wasn’t expecting awesome here.

        Truthfully outside of say Elon Musk or Burt Rutan who would you pick ?

        A.B Prosper

        October 12, 2015 at 4:00 am

    • Charles Bolden is the current NASA administrator, and the 1st black one at that.

      Now one understands why Meriprolestan is not even a 2nd rate nation!


      October 10, 2015 at 12:35 pm

      • I’m not seeing it. This guy looks like a good candidate to me, educated, military, former astronaut. any problems he faces would be the same as any White guy faces , that is political ones.

        A.B Prosper

        October 11, 2015 at 4:41 pm

      • Lower IQ, and acts tribal like most blacks, when given the opportunity. What’s good about him?


        October 11, 2015 at 8:05 pm

  11. Have you heard about the efforts to search for intelligent life in distant outer space?

    I guess they’ve given up looking on earth.

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    October 9, 2015 at 3:09 am

  12. I am suspicious these are trolls and Buzzfeed fell for the bait.


    October 9, 2015 at 5:53 am

  13. BTW, I have heard lefties lament that we have lost the ability to travel to the moon, but of course they blame this on their usual shibboleths like Republican budget cuts, corporate greed, and declining science education due to the influence of the religious right, rather than the dysgenic breeding and social decay they themselves promoted.


    October 9, 2015 at 9:23 am

  14. Ridley Scott needs to stick to his gory movies like Prometheus and Alien.

    Meriproles need to be entertained in a perverse way, which keeps them on their toes, or else, they will become indolent and stupid. That’s how I see it.

    The helmet wore by Matt Damon eerily reminds you of the Alien franchise.


    October 9, 2015 at 10:22 am

    • I don’t know. Except for the “genius black scientist” and female commander angles, I thought the movie was awesome.


      October 10, 2015 at 2:24 am

    • Why do Sci-Fi movies lose their allure, when racial diversity and female equality are shoved at our faces? Furthermore, it seems to correlate with lower quality and poor story telling. George Lucas killed his Star Wars prequels with the diversity mantra, along with the stereotypical ebonics and Asian accents.

      Our current Sci-Fi has proven to be Sci-Real, and a determinant for Meriprolestan’s fall.


      October 10, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      • Ha, there were no black people in the original Star Wars besides Darth Vader.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 10, 2015 at 1:44 pm

      • Are you counting only the first movie? Because there was Lando Calrissian.


        October 10, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      • Yes, I was.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 10, 2015 at 9:53 pm

      • George Lucas messed up his prequels, because of the various multicultural motifs in them, which were clearly symbolic of the non-white demographics in Meriprolestan, where as in the sequels, they were not. Unless, one can assert that NAM characters like Jar Jar Brinks were exterminated before Star Wars: A New Hope, it was absolutely cognitive dissonance on Lucas’ part, to feature them before episode 4.


        October 11, 2015 at 12:15 pm

  15. The biggest reason is not that the IQ of society is lower. It is that government efforts now are directed toward welfare rather than accomplishment. At the time of the Apollo missions, there were protests that money was spent on space rather than the poor. Well the protesters won.

    In terms of the private sector, technology has marched forward. Oil drilling deep underground where you turn 90 degrees through rock and a depth of miles is just as difficult as the space program. DNA sequencing, smartphones, Moore’s Law, LCD screens, this is all really astonishing technology.


    October 9, 2015 at 10:22 am

    • On the other hand, we can’t afford to build a new train tunnel under the Hudson River, but somehow we could afford to build a tunnel in 1904 more than 110 years ago.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 9, 2015 at 10:24 am

      • Worse, we can’t afford speedy rail, yet a country like Spain has replaced all of its Franco era train tracks!


        October 9, 2015 at 10:28 am

      • In 1904: No unions. No environmental impact studies. Smaller government so fewer kickbacks needed.


        October 9, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    • “The biggest reason is not that the IQ of society is lower. It is that government efforts now are directed toward welfare rather than accomplishment.”

      Super point. When the disloyal usurper Kate “Cracksnacker” Brown took over the governorship after King Kitz resigned in Oregon, she promised that her highest priority as governess was to help struggling families make ends meet……. wow, how inspiring! Not. In other words, Cracksnacker Brown’s highest priority is to put more Oregonians on welfare and to increase their reliance on government. Ergo:



      October 10, 2015 at 4:27 pm

      • “In other words, Cracksnacker Brown’s highest priority is to put more Oregonians on welfare and to increase their reliance on government. ”

        It wouldn’t be needed if the private sector produced enough well paying jobs, but it doesn’t.


        October 10, 2015 at 10:39 pm

  16. I went to see The Martian last weekend. It’s really a great movie. It has smart people solving problems with zero romance or other distracting nonsense. Leaving the movie, I was a bit sad because I realized that America is never really going to send men to Mars. Some country will eventually send people there, like the Chinese, but it won’t be us. We’re already on the way down and at the time when that movie is set, the US will have riots in the streets, not astronauts on another planet.

    Mike Street Station

    October 9, 2015 at 10:29 am

    • The Chinese can’t even send a man to the moon, let alone, put a Chinatown in Mars!


      October 9, 2015 at 11:53 am

  17. They continue to build NFL and MLB stadiums, which are big public and private partnerships.


    October 9, 2015 at 11:26 am

  18. O/T – University target practice again, and this time in Lion’s home state of Hispanic Arizona.


    October 9, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    • Not a case of beta-male rage, thus not interesting.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 9, 2015 at 12:04 pm

      • News sources say it was a confrontation, between a non-frat and frat members.


        October 9, 2015 at 12:12 pm

  19. Aside from the wonderful network of satellites, NASA has mostly been a 60-year, $500 billion jobs program. Though they did invent Tang and Velcro.

    E. Rekshun

    October 9, 2015 at 4:38 pm

  20. In ancient times they built pyramids and cathedrals. Now we have NASA and the Pentagon system.

    It’s rather sad humans get an ego boost from the national glory of putting a person on the moon, but there’s no similar psychological accomplishment for defeating malaria. Bunch of monkeys.


    October 9, 2015 at 8:21 pm

  21. If you want to live on Mars, well good luck with that. We don’t have Nazi scientists to build our technology anymore. You know those racists who made the first working jet and rocket and guided bombs and missiles? Apparently this movie has a negro scientist coming up with the slingshot affect to get gay boy back to Earth. Wasn’t there a Star Trek movie about that years ago? But apparently only the black guy remembered that. I’d be happy to get my ass to Mars when this whole diversity stuff is over, but I’m not going to live on a planet with lifeless deserts and hardly any atmosphere with shit designed by Rachel Genteal.

    Joshua Sinistar

    October 9, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    • The Nazi scientists were a huge part (guidance system expertise) but just a part nonetheless. The Chinese used rockets in war hundreds of years before the Nazis. Robert Goddard had two inventions which were critical (liquid fuel rockets and multistage rockets). The Nazis built the first jet airplane to fly but the idea was being worked on by others. The English flew their first jet aircraft in 1941 and the US had a jet fighter (P-80 Shooting Star) which saw very limited service in Italy at the end of the war (I met one of the P-80 WWII pilots when I was a kid and he was working in my father’s business).

      The gravitational slingshot/assist maneuver is pretty much “introduction to orbital mechanics” material. First proposed by Russians circa 1920 and actually used by Russian spacecraft in the 1950s.


      October 9, 2015 at 10:04 pm

      • Yeah, that’s a nice Fairy Tale of diversity, but the harsh reality is the Chinese were using rockets to make fireworks like you see on the Fourth of July. Goddard was the Father of Rockets that led to our space program. Why do you think the Chinese only went to space recently? After they got our technology from the factories we built there by the way. If they started so long ago, why were they so far behind and need our technology to get to space?

        Joshua Sinistar

        October 10, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    • Those amazing Magic Negroes… always getting dumb whiteys out of trouble… is there anything they can’t do?


      October 11, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    • Bruce Sterlings article on Mars colonization ought to be read by anyone complaining about us not being able to go there. TL;DR its not worth the trouble

      I’ll believe in people settling Mars at about the same time I see people setting the Gobi Desert. The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes “Gobi Desert Opera” because, well, it’s just kind of plonkingly obvious that there’s no good reason to go there and live. It’s ugly, it’s inhospitable and there’s no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it’s so hard to reach.
      On the other hand, there might really be some way to make living in the Gobi Desert pay. And if that were the case, and you really had communities making a nice cheerful go of daily life on arid, freezing, barren rock and sand, then a cultural transfer to Mars might make a certain sense.

      Now if we were hell bent on a colonial effort it would technically be possible. The steps however would be political not technical . The six that immediately come to mind are

      #1 Elimination of Cultural Marxism. It pretty much all has to go especially at the education level

      #2 Mass deportation or exclusion of truculent non whites , expect up to 100 million deportations and exclusions and/or state executions.

      #3 A freeze on most new immigration, legal and illegal to society can grow more homogeneous and will therefore be able to collect the needed state revenue to make it happen or less likely will have created a private culture that can do it. The only people we’d need are scientists

      #4 A completely reworked economy designed to distribute wealth not concentrate it . Its not a coincidence the US space program peaked around the time the US minimum wage was near its highest point . A society where despite staggeringly higher level of efficiency business models implode when they are asked to pay minimum wage workers (adjusted) much less than they got in 1968 is not going to be able to go to space

      #5 Restore the US infrastructure to full function while making it more robust

      #6 Coming up with a foreign policy that keeps us out of trouble and allows less to be spent of defense and war

      if you can figure out how to do these things you would pretty easily be able to replicate a moon shot and from there a manned Mars mission. Its still a waste of resources though.

      A.B Prosper

      October 11, 2015 at 4:57 pm

  22. Mars sucks. No food, no beer, no chicks. It is not the high IQ proposition.


    October 10, 2015 at 2:26 am

    • .
      Mars sucks. No food, no beer, no chicks. It is not the high IQ proposition.

      …..and worst of all, no LOTB! You’re right. Mars sucks.


      October 10, 2015 at 11:57 am

    • No NAMs, that’s a good start!


      October 10, 2015 at 12:47 pm

      • There are probably some guidos on Mars – another reason not to go there! Just speculating………

        ,………JS, I’m only playing with you!


        October 10, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    • It sure ain’t the place to raise your kids, In fact its cold as .. you know the rest.

      Frankly though Space is fascinating, you can’t convince me to spend a trillion or two to send a couple of guys to Mars . Even the F35 is a better value than that.

      If however we want to do something hard, deep sea exploration some akin to a real world version of the Seaquest would be terribly useful and teach us a lot more than a Mars trip.

      A.B Prosper

      October 12, 2015 at 4:03 am

  23. A lot of these tweets were elderly/middle aged people asking if the film was ‘based on a true story’. Old people are well known for being confused about the modern world, so this is hardly evidence of declining I.Q.

    Also, it is entirely possible the film WAS based on a true story. If, for example, the author had been inspired by the true tale of a 19th century sailor who had been forced to find inventive ways to survive after being shipwrecked on a remote island, then the film would indeed be ‘based on a true story.’

    Perhaps it is the tweeters and not their grandparents who were being foolish here?

    prolier than thou

    October 10, 2015 at 3:14 am

  24. Men will only make the mistake of returning to the Moon because they forgot how pointless it was the first time ’round. The Moon, and every other non-Earth planetoid in the Solar System, is an unlivable wasteland. So long as men remember how pointless it was to send men to the Moon, we will have the good sense to send only robots to the other orbs in our Solar System.


    October 10, 2015 at 4:16 pm

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