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Democratic Debate

8:42 Why are there five people on the stage? I thought there were only two candidates.

8:45 The debate started with the Star Spangled Banner. I don’t recall that happening at the Republican Debate. I guess that CNN wants to remind us that Democrats are patriotic Americans, not like Republican who put petty politics and shutting down the government ahead of good governance.

8:47 Anderson Cooper is the moderator. I walk past his gay bar on 9th Avenue all the time. Not interested in walking inside.

8:48 Chafee is boring. The Scott Walker of the Democrats. Why is this guy even bothering to run?

8:50 Webb sounds like he’s nervous. That’s always the kiss of death in a debate (unless your Ben Carson, but Jim Webb is no Ben Carson).

8:53 Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy! OK, no one actually said that. But I wish.

8:54 Soylent Green is people! (O’Malley) Umm, who is this guy?

8:55 Finally, Bernie Sanders. This guy is great when he’s talking about the top 1%. Unfortunately he has gone on a big spiel about climate change, which is bogus. And now he’s talking about black unemployment, even though no blacks are actually going to vote for him because he’s too white and nerdy. He should speak to his white supporters.

8:58 Hillary Clinton looks very good. She must have a very expensive personal beautician.

9:04 Bernie Sanders says that Norway, Sweden and Denmark are good countries. I agree.

9:09 I’m bored, I wonder if I can play a video game and still watch the debate at the same time?

11:10 PM I think that Sanders won because he had more passion than any other candidate and when he’s talking about the top 1% I really like him. The three little midgets should all drop out of the race.

Drudge poll says Sanders won, leading Hillary 58% to 5%..

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 13, 2015 at 8:42 pm

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  1. Sanders is the only one who sounds like a real person speaking, no surprise. I agree, he needs to hammer the economic stuff (especially anti-free trade and anti-wall street, and really harp on zero wage growth and high real unemployment). But he’s a true believer about climate and racial disparities (though he’s no SJW).


    October 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm

  2. 8:47 Anderson Cooper is the moderator. I walk past his gay bar on 9th Avenue all the time. Not interested in walking inside.

    Oh come now Lion, you’re always welcome, you hot young twink stud muffin!

    With love,
    The Boys at Flaming Saddles

    The Boys at Flaming Saddles

    October 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm

  3. Anderson Cooper is the moderator. I walk past his gay bar on 9th Avenue all the time. Not interested in walking inside.

    Might the Lion have had the opportunity to take any incriminating iPhone photos of him?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

  4. Yes, Bernie Sanders is correct. We’ll never be a Canada, let alone become a Scandinavia country. And we’re too tame to become a Spanish-American Republic. Epic Fail!


    October 13, 2015 at 10:12 pm

  5. I’m no fan of Bernie’s socialism. But he and Trump are about the only two running who aren’t lying sacks of shit.


    October 13, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    • I take that back about Sanders. I just read where he claimed people are imprisoned for simple pot possession. The people who say that are dopeheads who want to legalize pot and black racists trying to blame whites for their own crime rate. He wouldn’t have said that in a debate unless he’d studied it. In which case, he knew it wasn’t true and said it to pander.


      October 14, 2015 at 11:50 am

      • A first-time marijuana possession offense was rarely prosecuted as a felony in Arizona where it was technically a felony. Of course, the collateral consequences of a conviction can still ruin your life.

        In most states, possession of a small quantity is only a misdemeanor and for a first-time offense there’s usually just a fine.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 14, 2015 at 1:30 pm

  6. This is my take on Sanders – “Those who have no heart in their work , pretend that they cannot do their work without hardship and danger. And thus many live always in doubt about their state, because always in neglect of some duty.” Sanders and the other four have no use for you if you can’t make them feel like heroes in their own minds. Imagine the worst arrogant lazy waiter you have ever had and double or triple that. (By the way, as for me, I always tip even bad waiters – while “the wise servant is more deserving, and more likely to appear one of the family, than a profligate son”, even the foolish servants have families they need to feed, or a sad girlfriend who would prefer the average generous number of 12 roses on her birthday to the incompetent cheapskate’s “one perfect rose.”)

    howitzer daniel

    October 13, 2015 at 10:26 pm

  7. Does he own the bar, or just frequent it?


    October 13, 2015 at 10:48 pm

  8. This debate is a caricature of the great country America once was.


    October 13, 2015 at 10:52 pm

  9. Sanders looked the best but was disappointing. He isn’t communicating a coherent vision that people can understand. I still think his polls will improve out of this though.


    October 13, 2015 at 11:12 pm

  10. The only thing I know about Webb is that Ilana Mercer suggested Trump/Webb 2016. That’s sufficient to make him my favorite Democratic candidate.

    Greg Pandatshang

    October 13, 2015 at 11:22 pm

  11. Sanders vs. Trump

    Let’s do this!

    Olivia Newton-Tron

    October 13, 2015 at 11:36 pm

  12. Trump was right, the debate was boring. O’Mally and Sanders had opportunities to knife Clinton, but declined. They’ll get destroyed when the voting starts. I was looking forward to Trump v. Sanders.


    October 14, 2015 at 1:02 am

    • Y. If they won’t take the fight to Clinton then they are not really serious. It won’t matter what the polls say.


      October 14, 2015 at 8:02 am

  13. Webb came in second place in the post-debate polls. Sanders is in first. Hillary came in a distant fourth place with about a quarter of the support of Webb.

    Webb is like a sane version of Trump. Go Webb!

    Anonymous Bro

    October 14, 2015 at 1:06 am

    • A sane version of Trump will have zero interest to Democratic Primary voters. Webb is interesting, but his issues, like the white working class, no longer hold any weight in the Democratic Party. He is a holdover of another time.

      Mike Street Station

      October 14, 2015 at 9:19 am

    • I live in Virginia and I can’t name a single thing the guy did other than defeat George Allen. Then he quit for no apparent reason. It was like his only goal was to deny the Senate seat to Allen, and then he was done.


      October 14, 2015 at 12:05 pm

  14. Lion, what do you consider the top one percent? I’ve seen it estimated at as little as $350,000 in a given year. Hell, you can have two doctors or lawyers making that together (I say from personal experience) and they’re not living like Trump, especially if they have kids. And, just because you make that one year, it doesn’t mean you’ll make it the next, if you run a business. I’ve also seen a lot of limousine liberals defining the hated group as the top *two* percent, aka, calling themselves “The Other 98 Percent.”

    I’m really chafing at people with no kids, parental down-payments, and six-figure combined incomes defining themselves as economic underdogs, especially in comparison with myself.

    Sheila Tone

    October 14, 2015 at 1:21 am

    • “[W]hat do you consider the top one percent?”

      Investopedia has an article about who qualifies for the status of the top one percent.

      You get at least two bites of the apple: top one percent by income and top one percent by net wealth.

      From the article:

      “[A]n income of $32,400 a year will allow you to make the cut [of the global one percent].”

      “To reach [the] status [of the global one percent by net worth], you’d have to possess $770,000 in net worth.”

      But maybe you’re only interested in the pecking order in the U.S.

      “Not surprisingly, it takes a massively higher income to crack the top percentile of [U.S.] wage earners: You’d have to make $434,682 in adjusted gross income to make the cut, according to the non-partisan Tax Foundation.

      And to rank amongst the highest one percent of Americans by wealth? That requires net assets of more than $7 million, based on the latest Federal Reserve figures.”

      So there are plenty of ways to play status games with the numbers. Observe that you will also hear people talk about the “top one percent of the top one percent”.


      October 14, 2015 at 3:39 am

      • But what about consistent income? Do lots of households enter the top 1% for one year at a time when they sell a house or get an inheritance?


        October 14, 2015 at 9:47 am

      • Technically no, they have no more income than the year before, because there’s a 250,000 (500,000 for married couples) is exempted from income.

        And no to the inheritance which is not considered income and is not taxed.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 14, 2015 at 9:55 am

      • So home ownership is a great deal.

        Tax deduction for mortgage interest and origination points.
        Tax deduction for real estate tax.
        No tax on imputed rent.
        No tax on capital gains.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 14, 2015 at 9:57 am

      • I made the top 1% for a single year due to stock options vesting just after a big merger. AMT kicked in and the value at vesting was considered income for AMT purposes. Of course, due to merger and me being a regular employee, I was subject to a trading window which would not open for two months after the vesting. Which happened to be well into the tech bubble busting. When I sold, it was at about 10% of the vesting value but I still had to pay taxes for the full vesting value. I had to borrow money to do so. Several friends who were longer term employees with large numbers of options vesting (multi millions of dollars) were forced into bankruptcy. Of course IRS rules allow you to deduct the loss from selling below the vesting value but only insofar as it offsets profits from other stock trades over some number of future years. How nice of them. Anyway, I became a millionaire (just barely) but only for 8 business days. I should have quit my job (removing the trade restrictions) and sold but I had a boatload of other options vesting in the future so I figured I’d ride it out. I know better now.


        October 14, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    • The 1% is an appallingly bad name. Really, it’s the top 0.000whatever you need to look out for. No, someone one $400,000 per year isn’t hurting as badly as someone on the minimum wage, or someone who’s long term unemployed. But it’s not a competition. Lumping the bottom of the 1% in with the oligarchs is just divide and conquer.

      The bottom of the 1% are affluent, educated, connected and know how things really work. They are incredibly useful allies because they know how things stand, they know they’ll never be oligarchs themselves and they’re usually appalled at how things are run. And they’re hurting. That’s not coddling the rich; that is, or should be, a moment of “holy shit, if THEY’RE hurting, then how bad is it for the rest of the country?”

      The ones who are the real danger to the social fabric are those in the 80th percentile. They’re just far enough from the very top to not know how shady they are, or that they haven’t a chance in hell of joining them. They’re just close enough to the middle and bottom to be disgusted and feel no affinity for them.


      October 14, 2015 at 7:12 am

      • Agreed. There’s a big difference between someone making $400K and $40M. They shouldn’t even be in the same tax bracket.

        PS: I think that’s the first comment you’ve made that wasn’t ridiculous.


        October 14, 2015 at 2:04 pm

      • Interesting take. How do you feel were hurting? There’s no way I can say we’re hurting financially. But I am working my tail off, under a lot of job stress, and sick of dealing with others’ dismissal and resentment due to our family’s modest success, especially certain lazy, loud-mouthed family members. I don’t see how socialism would help me with any of that.

        Sheila Tone

        October 14, 2015 at 3:29 pm

      • “[I’m] sick of dealing with others’ dismissal and resentment due to our family’s modest success, especially certain lazy, loud-mouthed family members”

        A little status jujitsu might help.

        If American, odds are that said loud-mouth is part of the global one percent by some measure, or cares about someone who is.


        October 14, 2015 at 4:22 pm

  15. Lion continues to keep his head buried in the sand about climate change. Get out of the city and talk to people who deal with climate on a long term basis – farmers, hunters, fishermen. The world is getting warmer long term, the trends are pretty obvious.

    Peter Akuleyev

    October 14, 2015 at 2:13 am

    • Farmers and hunters are NOT statisticians.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 14, 2015 at 9:24 am

    • Haha, go to a hunting or fishing forum and post this nonsense and you’ll be laughed off the board.


      October 14, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    • “The world is getting warmer long term, the trends are pretty obvious.”

      Indeed they are! The earth was been warming ever since the last ice age ended ~13,000 years ago. That’s why the US is no longer covered with glaciers. But people have had very little to do with it.


      October 14, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    • What is the claim for increase in average global temperature over the last 40 years, from the most fervent believer in AGW? 0.7 degrees C? And what is the standard deviation in the average temperature in one place from year to year, like at some guy’s farm?
      You remind me of Bill Maher when he said he could feel global warming. He actually said he can feel it. This is nothing but insanity. Please stop saying things like this. Even if it has risen 0.7 degrees, NO ONE can see, feel, sense this in any way. It can vary by 20 degrees C on back to back days. You are stating that individual people who have not taken the first chapter of Statistics 101 can OBSERVE 0.7 degrees over DECADES. Stop this. It is embarrassing.

      Copperhead Joe

      October 14, 2015 at 8:49 pm

  16. Michael Booth, in the book “The Almost Nearly Perfect People” (2014), says “more than a third of Sweden’s population [is] either born overseas or of foreign parentage.” He describes Sweden as “totalitarian,” with an elite cabal that tightly controls Sweden’s industry, finance, media and government. Any public statement that denigrates Islam or Muslims or immigrants in general is a criminal offense in Sweden. Sweden, known informally as Swedistan, was the first EU member in western Europe to recognize the Palestinian state.

    Mark Caplan

    October 14, 2015 at 3:03 am


      Sweden has committed national suicide. This is where Sanders wants to take America. A country that has men and women bathing naked together is finished. Simply done for.


      October 14, 2015 at 9:44 am

      • “A country that has men and women bathing naked together is finished. Simply done for.”

        Bull. The fuck. Shit. Swedish men and Swedish women can bathe naked together and it will be fine. It’s when they let the lesser races in, in any numbers, that they’re finished.

        I know you worship Russia and all (except for the part of, y’know, actually living there because it’s a shit hole and all) but the socially conservative Russian ethos has resulted in demographic collapse. The Swedish model works for Swedes.


        October 14, 2015 at 10:16 am

      • If you bathe naked with women, you lose your ability to procreate and generally become a faggot. This is why Sweden is dying out and is replacing it’s own population with moslems and Africans.

        Stick to the issue and avoid ad homenim attacks.


        October 14, 2015 at 11:52 am

      • “If you bathe naked with women, you lose your ability to procreate and generally become a faggot.”

        First I ever heard that.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 14, 2015 at 1:31 pm

      • In Japan, men and women bathe naked together. In Sweden, men and women shvitz together.

        Mark Caplan

        October 14, 2015 at 11:58 am

      • “The Swedish model works for Swedes.”

        Except for the part where the Swedish model requires importing a bazillion non-Swedes in order to abolish Sweden and the Swedes.


        October 14, 2015 at 12:01 pm

      • Let me refrase it, if you bathe with women without copulation, you become a faggot and lose your ability to procreate. Sweden and Japan have birth rates below replacement level. Russians have saunas too, but they are generally associated with having sexual intecourse and orgies. A person with a normal sex drive isn’t going to just splash in a pool with a bunch of naked women unless he is a faggot or oversatiated, which is pretty much the same thing when it comes to national character. If your wife goes naked with a bunch of guys, there is no way you have what it takes to fight off invaders and enemies. Who is going to kill and get killed for a woman that bathes naked with strangers? No one. They are done for. Just imagine you kill a bunch of, say, Muslims, and than she goes naked with another bunch of Muslims? You are better off taking a Muslim captive and making her your wife or concubine, she isn’t gonna go naked with anyone, she knows better. And these used to the Vikings! Amazing.


        October 14, 2015 at 1:46 pm

      • “If you bathe naked with women, you lose your ability to procreate and generally become a faggot.”

        I don’t think it turns someone homo. But Yakov is right in the general principle that immodesty and sexual permissiveness lowers birth rates.


        October 14, 2015 at 2:00 pm

      • Russians truly are too stupid to live. Literally, considering their birthrate.


        October 14, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      • @Yakov – I think its correlation not causation. Swedish values are defined by a homogeneous, high-trust culture with no concept of sexual honor. So Swedish men don’t mind if their wife is bathing naked with other men. The same culture though produces a naivete that makes Swedes think that immigration is a good idea.

        Americans women bathe swim with men in bikinis. I suspect to Muslim migrants there’s not much difference between a naked woman and a woman in a bikini.


        October 14, 2015 at 4:21 pm

      • @destructure

        I don’t mean literally either, but it makes your mind faggoty. Like you can’t resist the the strong masculine invaders because they want to bed all those naked women and you only want to shvitz and, in the case of JS, talk French philosophy and dis your own country. So how can a mental faggot resist? He can’t. This is why all these mental faggots run to ingratiate themselves with Muslims and they come up with the most faggoty of excuses, like a crucifix in a Church is offensive or that American inmates don’t like pork. Like really, if you are in a bath tub with a bunch of naked women and you don’t have a hudge election you are a faggot or an impotent. You realy hit the evolutionary dead end, you are fossil, a dinosaur.


        October 14, 2015 at 5:34 pm

      • Yakov, Find me a link, where Swedish men and women bathe together, without casual sex. All of Europe have very low birth rates. The same applies to Russia.


        October 14, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      • The demoraphic collapse occurred before Russia turned back towards their traditional culture and since turning towards it they have been able to improve their population statistics.

        With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

        October 14, 2015 at 9:31 pm

      • @JS
        ‘Yakov, Find me a link, where Swedish men and women bathe together, without casual sex.’

        A link? ROFL!

        Jesse thinks they don’t because they separate nudity from sexualy in their very superior culture. I don’t think Vikings bathed naked with women, how come the church didn’t put an end to this? Or is this a recent thing? Well, with a lesbian bishop removing crucifixes why am I even asking? Wait, this lesbian bishop goes bathing naked with the flock? Damn. Wait, but most people are disgusting looking when naked, I would puke looking at them, who the hell wants to bathe with them? So a prime minister does it too? What would they do when a bunch of Zulus comes to join in?


        October 14, 2015 at 10:10 pm

      • Need I remind anyone that faggots love saunas and bath houses? Apparently these lead to orgies not only in Russia but also in places like San Francisco.


        October 15, 2015 at 12:57 am

      • Yakov, You’re not making any sense at all!


        October 15, 2015 at 11:03 am

    • American a is catching up, though.

      I thought that bacon and eggs was a typical American breakfast.


      October 14, 2015 at 10:16 am

      • Prisoners should be fed low-protein diets so they come out of prison skinny and without much muscles.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 14, 2015 at 10:55 am

      • Perhaps a growing number of inmates are converting to Islam!!!

        Islam is the sole force for the conquest of the New World. Read my incomplete blog. And no, my content isn’t anti-semitic.


        October 14, 2015 at 11:43 am

      • Supposedly prisoners did not prefer pork. Presumably its porterhouse and filet all the way. Why the hell do prisoners get to choose what to eat?


        October 14, 2015 at 12:30 pm

      • Prisoners should work to pay for their incarceration and bacon. If the want to pump iron after a 12 hour day, they should be free to do so. The government claimed that prisoners ‘don’t like pork’ and that’s why it’s being taken off the menu. I remember that in Jack London’s books everyone liked bacon. Also, when I walk on the street in the morning, there is a bacon aroma wafting through the air, I don’t think Americans should be denied their food in prison to accommodate anyone.


        October 14, 2015 at 1:31 pm

      • Once you taste the forbidden delight of bacon, you will have to give up orthodox Judaism.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 14, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      • “Once you taste the forbidden delight of bacon, you will have to give up orthodox Judaism.”

        This is true. Greasy bacon is nasty but if it’s cooked right it’s addictive.

        Interesting bit of trivia. Pork is the meat that tastes most like people. Pacific islanders used to refer to human flesh as long pig. ಠ_ಠ


        October 14, 2015 at 2:14 pm

      • @Dan

        Prisoners don’t chose, whatever is on the menu that day that’s what everyone eats. Pork used to be served, now it’s not. But you can’t say like Monday I wanna bacon or apple pie or sushi. What’s administration got is what you eat. This fair. If you eat kosher or halal you get your thing, but the pork guys used to get their pork, not anymore and this is bad. Do they accommodate vegan guys, or those guys just have to give their meat to the meat eaters for their veggies? I dunno.


        October 14, 2015 at 3:49 pm

      • First they came for the bacon, and I did not speak out — because I had run out of lettuce and tomato.

        Mark Caplan

        October 14, 2015 at 7:24 pm

      • @Lion
        ‘Once you taste the forbidden delight of bacon, you will have to give up orthodox Judaism.’

        Not eating pork is superior to eating it otherwise it wouldn’t have been forbidden. When are you going to realize this?


        October 14, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    • thanks for the excellent book recommendation, mark, i am going to check it out.


      October 15, 2015 at 2:37 am

    • @ Mark Caplan

      Just ordered the book. Looks interesting.


      October 15, 2015 at 7:17 am

  17. The only thing I know about Webb is he wrote an excellent piece in the Wall Street Journal criticising race based policies and those who treat whites as a monolithic identity.

    “Those who came to this country in recent decades from Asia, Latin America and Africa did not suffer discrimination from our government, and in fact have frequently been the beneficiaries of special government programs. The same cannot be said of many hard-working white Americans, including those whose roots in America go back more than 200 years.

    Contrary to assumptions in the law, white America is hardly a monolith. And the journey of white American cultures is so diverse (yes) that one strains to find the logic that could lump them together for the purpose of public policy.

    The clearest example of today’s misguided policies comes from examining the history of the American South.

    The old South was a three-tiered society, with blacks and hard-put whites both dominated by white elites who manipulated racial tensions in order to retain power. At the height of slavery, in 1860, less than 5% of whites in the South owned slaves. The eminent black historian John Hope Franklin wrote that “fully three-fourths of the white people in the South had neither slaves nor an immediate economic interest in the maintenance of slavery….

    Policy makers ignored such disparities within America’s white cultures when, in advancing minority diversity programs, they treated whites as a fungible monolith. Also lost on these policy makers were the differences in economic and educational attainment among nonwhite cultures. Thus nonwhite groups received special consideration in a wide variety of areas including business startups, academic admissions, job promotions and lucrative government contracts.”


    October 14, 2015 at 3:28 am

  18. If you have a net worth of 7 million or more then you are in the one percent. Total assets of anything less does not qualify. A person can make $400,000 a year but it does not mean that they are truly in that same league because earnings fluxuate.

    The original British concept of wealth based on passive income is still the correct measure. If you have a net worth of 7 million and draw out a safe rate of 4% a year that is $280,000. Since dividends and capital gains are taxed more favorably that is roughly the equivalent of an earned income of 400k a year. And you don’t have to work for it.

    Income is not a measure of wealth. Net worth is for this very reason.


    October 14, 2015 at 11:16 am

  19. The NYTimes shamelessly promotes Hillary Clinton’s performance. Here are four articles about her on the front page as of 10/14/15:

    Clinton’s Steady Performance in Debate Quiets Talk of Biden
    A Night Goes Clinton’s Way, After Months of Problems
    Hillary Clinton’s Democratic Debate Magic
    Iowa Democrats Praise Hillary Clinton After Debate


    October 14, 2015 at 2:05 pm

  20. “Hillary Clinton looks very good.”

    lion, how’s your love life going? should we be concerned?


    October 14, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    • She looked a lot better than I expected her to look. But unlike the guy who wrote the glowing NY Times article about her debate performance, I didn’t get a boner or anything like that.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 14, 2015 at 9:31 pm

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