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Debate/World Series blogging

I have the debate on one screen and the World Series on another (with the volume turned off). And blogging from a third screen.

8:16 The pitcher for the NY Mets needs a haircut. At least he didn’t give up an in-the-park home run on the first pitch.

8:21 Is Rubio copying Bush’s opening statement?

8:27 Trump is trying to talk about immigration instead of his stupid tax plan, which is smart of him.

8:32 Kasich: 100% right about taxes, 100% wrong about immigration.

8:40 Jeb Bush attacks Marco Rubio about him missing Senate votes. This is new. I think it backfired.

8:48 Cruz argues with the moderator about his time being up.

9:02 Cramer asks Carson an interesting question about drug company profiteering. But Carson evades answering the question. Maybe he’s becoming more like a politician.

9:06 Mets hit into a double play, but the umpire calls the runner safe at first base and it’s not a double play.

9:07 Run scored! Bad call at first base gives the Mets their first run.

9:13 More crappy fielding from the Mets, and KC has a runner on first base with no outs.

9:17 More crappy fielding from the loser Mets center fielder, and KC has runners on first and second. Lenny Dykstra wouldn’t have missed that play.

9:21 Walk. Based loaded.

Conference on the mound.

Ground ball out, inning over, and de Grom gets out of a bad situation caused by crappy Mets fielding.

9:27 Trump now says that foreigners who go to American schools should be allowed to work in America. What happened to him being anti-immigrant?

9:38 Tie game. The KC batter, after getting an 0-2 count trying to sacrifice bunt, swings on the 0-2 pitch and gets a hit into center field, driving the guy on second home.

Next KC batter hits the ball down the 1B line, moving the runners to second and third with one out.

Fly ball out, too shallow to drive the runner home, 2 outs now.

Hit. KC leads 3-1. These Met suck. How did they get to the World Series in the first place?

Another hit, men on the corners, when will this inning end?

9:52 Another hit, KC leads 4-1, men still on the corners. This de Grom guy is certainly no Dwight Gooden.

9:54 Inning finally over.

10:04 Thinking about the H-1B visa issue, maybe Trump doesn’t know what’s on his own website because he didn’t write it himself. Perhaps Trump’s anti-immigration platform is not something he personally believes, but is just something he adopted because he realizes it’s what Republican primary voters want to hear. Why don’t Bush and Rubio and those guys realize it’s what the voters want to hear? I guess Trump is smarter because he graduated from Wharton.

10:08 My TWC online stream crashed… no debate coming in.


They candidates are still making their closing remarks, but I say that Carson is the big winner of this debate. His performance has improved since the previous two debates. I’m starting to appreciate his calm demeanor.

Everyone else is afraid to attack Carson. Rubio and Bush squabbled with each other instead. They just hurt themselves. I guess the nominating process just doesn’t have room for two moderate pro-immigration Spanish-speaking candidates from Florida, and they realize that.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 28, 2015 at 8:12 pm

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  1. Dare I subject myself to, of all things, an economically-oriented Republican debate?


    October 28, 2015 at 8:19 pm

  2. Does his hair impact his ERA?


    October 28, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    • Not really. Pro athletes cannot happily exist (with a few exceptions, none of them currently well-known) in any other world than the world where Everyone Who Matters has a 90 to 120 IQ. The Long Hair shows he is confident in his time and place. While the asymmetrical consequences of having unruly hair would be, long term, significantly deleterious for a future Hall of Famer, De Grom is just a dude who is having a couple good years. The Long Hair loses him a few centimeters of accuracy late in the game (when the umpires are tired, too, which mitigates the problem) but gives him the confidence that makes him Excel in a world where everyone who matters has, at least in the short run, no better than a 90 to 120 IQ. It shows that he has the humility to know he is not the next great pitcher and the aggressiveness that shows that he is up to date. It is just a game, after all.

      howitzer daniel

      October 28, 2015 at 9:30 pm

      • Ryan Fitzpatrick, the current Jets starting quarterback, got a 1580 on his SAT and has a economics degree from Harvard.


        October 28, 2015 at 9:48 pm

      • Unless he wins the Super Bowl and writes a timeless memoir, he is wasting his time. That is my opinions and his opinion, I am sure, feel free to disagree. Except, yeah, being a pro QB helps you in finding a good wife and being a good dad, life is apparently predictable and fair that way, anyway. Do you have any idea what an awful world this would be if even rich male athletes could not find good wives?

        howitzer daniel

        October 28, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      • For the moment I’ll chalk Trump’s comments up to mental exhaustion with the moderators.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 28, 2015 at 10:57 pm

      • Geez, TUJ, just face reality already.


        October 29, 2015 at 12:32 am

      • Thought you were talking about Trump!


        October 29, 2015 at 6:55 am

      • Geez, TUJ, just face reality already.

        Oh no, I’m quite serious. That much moderator stupidity would make even Lion deny he read Paul Fussell.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 29, 2015 at 10:36 pm

  3. Trump denying criticizing Zuckerberg’s immigration policy and supporting more visas!


    October 28, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    • very good thing. We need more productive workers with skills than pandering to homegrown losers.


      October 28, 2015 at 9:55 pm

      • There are enough people in the US that companies willing to train and pay a decent wage will never find themselves at a loss of properly skilled workers.


        October 28, 2015 at 10:53 pm

      • The next civil war will be because of the poors and foreign debt.

        Bringing in more foreigners to take what little is left of American middle class jobs is not the answer.

        Eventually it will give way to bloodshed.


        October 29, 2015 at 12:35 am

      • “The next civil war will be because of the poors and foreign debt.”

        There is absolutely nothing wrong with America’s government debt situation.


        October 29, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    • Yep, very disappointing.

      Andrew E.

      October 28, 2015 at 9:56 pm

      • This is a real reason to lose enthusiasm for Trump.

        Andrew E.

        October 28, 2015 at 9:57 pm

  4. Trump denies a sentence quoted out form his own immigration plan. Can’t refute Rubio’s outright lies about the H1-B program. It’s increasingly obvious that Trump hasn’t read his own immigration plan and probably hasn’t read his tax plan.

    Trump is still the least disastrous of the Republican candidates. But Rubio is now the obvious front runner. Hillary is getting increasingly attractive to American patriots by comparison to these clowns. She’s a lot better on immigration than Rubio or Bush.


    October 28, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    • Is she? Don’t confuse Hillary 2008 with Hillary 2015. She has totally different positions. The current Hillary wants to go beyond Obama’s executive amnesty.

      Mike Street Station

      October 29, 2015 at 8:11 am

      • It can be a little difficult to tell when Hillary is pandering with a position she’ll walk back and when she’s sincere. It’s hard for her to criticize Obama on amnesty when facing a challenge from Sanders.

        Rubio, Bush, or Cruz are at least as likely as she is to expand the Obama executive amnesty. They’ve been pushing similar programs at an electorate that hates them; that is a sure sign of sincere enthusiasm, unlike Hillary’s.

        Regardless of that, if Rubio, Cruz, or Bush is elected, the Republican congress will certainly pass a Bush-Obama-Kennedy sized amnesty with a new guest worker program granting millions of visas to low skilled Africans and Middle-Easterners and a 5x expansion in H1-Bs. If Hillary is elected, the Republicans in congress will resist a new amnesty law.

        Vote Hillary 2016!


        October 29, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      • I agree with behiker57w.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 29, 2015 at 12:13 pm

      • On the amnesty issue, I do agree that Rubio or Bush is every bit as bad, if not more so, than Hillary when it comes to amnesty. Cruz is a little different. Although he prefers higher rates of legal immigration, he has (finally) said no to amnesty. That puts him ahead of Rubio, Bush, or Hillary in my opinion.

        Mike Street Station

        October 29, 2015 at 1:15 pm

  5. Put the debate moderators before a firing squad; my eyes are watering, and I’m only listening to it over streaming radio. I can’t imagine what watching it is like.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 28, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    • Thank you

      not too late

      October 28, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    • Thank you

      After giving it more thought, substitute ”firing squad” with flame throwers.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 28, 2015 at 10:54 pm

  6. […] Lion says that Carson won the debate. I agree. His performance wasn’t great, but he “won” in the sense that Trump didn’t take the opportunity to attack him. […]

  7. Trump is pro-immigration now. I’m not voting, not unless Bernie wins.


    October 28, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    • Didn’t watch, but, alas, even the one guy who speaks truth to power waffles?

      Debate was here in CO. Old Denver Mayor Pena and some others were there to protest. Something along the lines of – don’t besmirch a whole class of people – immigrants… Blah blah blah.

      Of course, Pena was not asked about what should be done to stop illegal immigration. Why does the US need to provide for Mexico/El Salvador/Honduras/Guatemala and the rest’s problems, etc…

      Maybe he’ll be the next ICE commish in the Hillary administration. Or the Bush. Same difference apparently.


      October 28, 2015 at 11:39 pm

    • Trump isn’t pro-immigration. Cracking down on illegals gets rid of at least 12 million and reduces net inflow by almost a million illegals a year. As for university graduates, I doubt it would be in addition to the existing quota. More likely it would simply give them preference over other applicants. Shifting immigration from 3rd world to middle class professionals would undermine the Dem incentive to support immigration. It would also pit the middle class squarely against immigration as immigrants would be competing against them. So I’m thinking this would ultimately lead to a reduction in legal immigration as well.


      October 29, 2015 at 12:12 am

      • I tend to agree with that conclusion. Green cards for university graduates is the least worse of the multiple bad ideas on how we select immigrants. At the very least future immigrants won’t wind up on the social safety net as the MAJORITY of legal immigrants now do. They can help pay for it instead.

        Mike Street Station

        October 29, 2015 at 8:20 am

      • He’s pro legal immigration, which displaces conservative Americans politically at an even faster rate.


        October 29, 2015 at 1:10 pm




    Trump – did nothing to lose support. Most importantly he wins because Carson had no stage presence. Carson’s poll lead will melt slowly, but it will melt.

    Cruz – you can start the countdown for when Carson’s Evangelical voters abandon him for the Senator.


    Carson – see above.

    Jeb – done. When Bush exits I look forward to Trump bragging he single handedly knocked out the former #1 and #2 candidates, Walker and Jeb, within the space of a few months.

    Everyone else, even if arguably did well, because they none of them won decisively enough to break out of single digits, or, barely-above-singles limbo.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 28, 2015 at 10:52 pm

    • Hmmm, so the candidates you’ve been hawking for months are your declared winners. How fortuitous.


      October 29, 2015 at 12:44 am

    • I think everyone won except Jeb. However as far as degree of winning, probably both Rubio and Cruz were stand outs.

      Mike Street Station

      October 29, 2015 at 8:21 am

    • Hmmm, so the candidates you’ve been hawking for months are your declared winners. How fortuitous.

      My declared winners have a tendency to win. How did Runt Paul do?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 29, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    • I think everyone won except Jeb. However as far as degree of winning, probably both Rubio and Cruz were stand outs.

      Rubio had the honor of opening one final volley against Jeb’s kamikaze flight, but I doubt it’s enough to make him move well into the top tier.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 29, 2015 at 10:43 pm

  9. “Trump now says that foreigners who go to American schools should be allowed to work in America. What happened to him being anti-immigrant?”

    He’s said that almost from the beginning. I’m not happy about it. But it’s a start and still the best game in town. Unless you’d rather amnesty 12 million illegals and add another 30 million 3rd worlders through chain migration? Illegals make up half the immigrants. So cracking down on illegals cuts immigration in half which is almost a million a year. That’s huge. Once you plug that hole, it will be easier to do something about legal immigration and H1Bs next. I’m not saying that’s his plan. I don’t know what his plan is. But I do think Trump is crafty.


    Drudge poll gives Trump 64%, Cruz 16% and Carson 3%. I didn’t watch the debate but voted for Trump anyway. I couldn’t care less how any of them did. Their debate performance won’t affect my vote.

    The baseball highlights were annoying.


    October 28, 2015 at 11:48 pm

    • Do you actually think any his immigration proposals are going to happen? That the corporations are just going to sit back and watch their cheap labor vanish into thin air?

      I know the aspergic types in the HBDsphere struggle in understanding how the world works, but come on.


      October 29, 2015 at 12:39 am

      • Normally you might be correct, but this election there is actually an opportunity to elect someone who owes zero to “the corporations.” and doesn’t need them. We’ve been able to grow illegal immigration before.

        Mike Street Station

        October 29, 2015 at 8:59 am

      • The president can deport 12 million illegals simply by enforcing the laws already on the books. As part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, ICE is under the executive branch’s direct control. The only reason illegals have grown to 12 million is that the last 3 presidents have been willfully and deliberately negligent in enforcing the laws.


        October 29, 2015 at 2:54 pm

  10. I think Trump has decided to make a concerted effort to include some immigration-friendly signals in his rhetoric because he knows when the field winnows down and the Democrats begin to take aim at him 24/7 he wants to be able to deflect to a certain extent the sh*tstorm that’s coming his way. We haven’t seen anything yet.

    If he wins the people will have to keep him honest with respect to legal immigration.

    Andrew E.

    October 28, 2015 at 11:57 pm

    • Regarding your last sentence, that never, ever works.


      October 29, 2015 at 12:41 am

  11. Rubio has low future time orientation. Dude can’t control his finances much less the US economy.


    October 29, 2015 at 12:27 am

  12. To be charitable to Trump, he was not being asked about the H1B program. He was asked about a disagreement with Mark Zuckerberg that Trump admits does not exist.

    Trump said he agreed that if a brilliant foreign student is studying at Harvard and graduates with all kinds of honors, that everything should be done to keep that foreign student here instead of him going back to his own country. This is a slice of the immigration issue that touches on the “best and brightest” mantra that Trump believes is a benefit to the United States. I don’t think Trump was really addressing the H1B issue.

    It was Rubio that criticized a gaming of the H1B system, claiming that he would want companies barred from the program for such abuses.


    October 29, 2015 at 3:20 am

    • Yeah, but Rubio was clearly lying. His gang-of-8 bill very deliberately and significantly increased H1B’s. I believe there’s even video going around of him speaking before Congress saying the words ” we need to increase H1B’s”

      Andrew E.

      October 29, 2015 at 9:53 am

      • Rubio knows the majority of H1-Bs are already fraudulent and still wants to triple them. All the measures he proposed to clean up the program are already in place and the best ways to cheat them legally are well understood. Note that Rubio never proposed any of the serious proposals to clean up the program by requiring that salaries reflect unique skills with a hard $120,000 floor and that work permits should be easily transferrable to different employers.

        It all shows that Rubio, like Cruz, is a master liar on immigration issues and he will deliberately try to trick you into thinking he’s on your side and will utterly shamelessly stab Americans in the back. If either is nominated, remember that you must vote for Hillary if you love America.


        October 29, 2015 at 12:16 pm

      • I am not defending Rubio.


        October 29, 2015 at 2:55 pm

  13. Carson winning? I thought it was Rubio followed closely by Cruz. Rubio nailed the “gotcha,” vote missing question. The liberals on Msnbc seemed deflated/concerned with how well he did.


    October 29, 2015 at 12:20 pm

  14. I lived through the 1986 and 2000 World Series in New York, and was struck by how little excitement was there for the Mets this time around. I attribute this to them being a good but not great team that sort of snuck in to the World Series, benefiting from the collapse of the Nationals in the regular season, and then the Cubs taking out the Pirates and the Cardinals in the post season for them before collapsing themselves.

    At least they won 90 games. Yes, it was the fifth best record in the National League, but these days its a good World Series if both teams have won 90 games. If you compare the record and the statistics (run production and run prevention) of the Royals and the Mets, the Royals are somewhat better, and have home stadium advantage, so it would be a significant upset if the Mets beat them. They still have a chance if they could sweep the three games in Queens.


    October 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm

  15. The New York Metropolitans will lose to the Missouri’s Royals in the World Series.

    What an embarrassment for a town that stuffs its money where its mouth is, and still lose to a team from lethargic-flyover country comprising of lower tier proles!


    November 1, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    • Missouri’s Royals. Yes, they are not the J-Hawks, Shockers, or the Wildcats (I had to look that up to be sure, but I thought K State was the Wildcats).


      November 1, 2015 at 11:55 pm

      • Kansas City sits in Missouri and borders the State of Kansas.

        For some reason, I found the Met fans to be prolier than the Royal fans. But this is not surprising, given the inflated status of New Yorkers. NY’s White Ethnic proles and guidos to me, rate lower than any flyover prole, in terms of class and intelligence.


        November 2, 2015 at 11:04 am

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