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Post debate

The Drudge poll, as usually, shows a huge lead for Trump being the winner of the debate, but I think that just reflects Drudge’s readership, which is anti-establishment right-wing but not evangelical Christian.

Carson had momentum going into this debate, has this debate changed anything to stop that? I don’t think so. I think Carson did less bad this debate than in previous debates. He seemed a lot less nervous, and slightly more presidential. Trump also seemed more presidential.

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Betting markets have finally given up on Jeb Bush, after insisting for months that he was the odds on favorite despite pathetic poll numbers. Now they have Rubio in first place and Trump in second place. But I don’t see how Rubio and Bush squabbling with each other during the debate is going to help him.

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I think it’s time for Christie and Huckabee to drop out. I don’t think either of them had a bad debate performance, but nothing happened that will suddenly propel them higher in the polls. Evangelicals who supported Huckabee in 2008 now support Carson, and I don’t see that changing.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 29, 2015 at 12:28 AM

Posted in Politics

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  1. Huck seemed to be flinging bouquets at Trump–angling for VEEP?


    October 29, 2015 at 12:33 AM

  2. If it’s not Rand Paul, I’m not voting. All the rest of these guys will continue our never ending series of Chinese funded wars.

    Btw, new polls in Texas and Oklahoma show Trump losing to Carson:


    October 29, 2015 at 12:51 AM

  3. I had to stop watching at 9:00 so I didn’t get the full picture. From what I saw Fiorina, Rubio, and Huckabee did really well. Cruz, Christie, and Trump did well also. Carson, Kasich, and Paul did poorly. Bush was pathetic. Based on what I saw, we would expect to see Fiorina and Rubio to grab more of Bush’s support while everyone else remains in about the same place. The Bush family needs to get Jeb off of that stage before he does any more damage to the brand.


    October 29, 2015 at 1:16 AM

  4. I think that Marco Rubio won the scuffle between him and Jeb Bush. This analysis corroborates that assessment:

    Jeb sounded really rude and condescending to Rubio. You could tell that Rubio was pissed, but he held his composure and struck back hard.

    For what it’s worth, I think that Rubio has a lot of the same flaws as Obama. Rubio is very young, and he has risen through the ranks by making a good impression on people, versus getting things done. “Oh, wouldn’t it be great if we had a black/Hispanic president?”

    But like Obama, he’s a good talker. He made his points in the debate superbly.


    October 29, 2015 at 1:32 AM

  5. Cruz was the big winner tonight. In a psychometric sense, he’s probably the smartest guy out there. He won’t be the nominee, but I could see Trump or Rubio picking Cruz for running mate.


    October 29, 2015 at 2:00 AM

  6. Trump won the whole debate with his closing remarks. He called out CNBC for their attempt at hosting a 3 hour debate, which Trump and Carson threatened to boycott, and used it as an example of his negotiating ability. Smooth move.
    There was one event that showed what a cuck Señor Jeb is. Huckabee mentioned his tie is a Trump tie and everyone dogpiled onto him asking where it was made. Jeb was the loudest by asking “China or Mexico?” What does Jeb care? He wants all of Mexico in our borders. Jeb married the housekeeper. That outburst from Jeb was pathetic. I bet his wife does not even respect him. Can anyone confirm if Jeb was tip-toeing again? Also, Jeb used a line from Bush II, that he is a uniter. George W. always said that he was a uniter, not a divider. Did Jeb pick that up over the weekend from his brother when he was crying to mommy and daddy about mean Mr. Trump?


    October 29, 2015 at 3:14 AM

    • “Huckabee mentioned his tie is a Trump tie and everyone dogpiled onto him asking where it was made. Jeb was the loudest by asking “China or Mexico?” What does Jeb care? He wants all of Mexico in our borders.”

      It was telling that as wide open Jeb left himself with that comment, nobody bothered to make the obvious come back. I guess everyone knows that Jeb is in Gilmore territory now and no longer matters.

      Mike Street Station

      October 29, 2015 at 9:05 AM

      • Ties made by Mexicans in Mexico: bad.

        Ties mad by Mexicans in Texas: good.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 29, 2015 at 9:07 AM

      • One of those generates more tax revenue than the other. Good or bad?

        Viscount Douchenozzlé

        October 29, 2015 at 6:45 PM

  7. LotB must be reading my comments on this blog. I said Huckabee should drop out – or not get in in the first place – months ago.


    October 29, 2015 at 3:22 AM

  8. Carson appeals to a limited hardcore segment that want to continue believing their candidate is actually a contender when he’s not even in the game. Carson will win one state and will then fade because it’s a protest vote from the evangelicals to make the candidates talk about God.

    The RNC needs to stop giving liberal media outlets these amazing ratings at the cost of principled debate and get serious about convincing the bottom half of candidates to drop out. And get rid of the whole undercard charade. I hate each and every one of those candidates now because of that and I didn’t even half know them before. Just looking at Jindal’s beady eyes or thinking of Graham’s pasty complexion gives me nausea.


    October 29, 2015 at 7:36 AM

  9. I have to seriously question the validity of those betting markets. Jeb has been done for a while, but last night’s debate more or less sealed the deal (no matter how long he straggles along). Rubio and Cruz probably had the best debate performances, but on that basis the betting markets suddenly turn around?

    Mike Street Station

    October 29, 2015 at 8:25 AM

  10. It’s really irksome how the Evangelical vote always gums up the works for Republicans. I understand that Christians have been under assault by society for decades, and I feel sorry for them. But at some point you have to realize that you’ve lost the battle against abortion and gays and whatever else, and start thinking about what might save your nation from total social and economic melt-down. Voting for a well meaning bumbler like Carson isn’t going to do it.


    October 29, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    • Christians are mega-cucks. Its sorta baked into the cake.


      October 29, 2015 at 2:08 PM

  11. I’m always nervous watching debates for fear that someone will embarrass himself. But I have to say that this debate was wonderful. I think all the candidates did well. It seems Lion and I never agree on anything when it comes to presidential nominations! First off, since Carson and Trump have been the sole focus for many weeks, all the other candidates helped their own chances just by being on the stage with these two and not saying anything to harm themselves. I thought Carson didn’t do especially well – he didn’t seem to shine next to the other candidates. Kasich at least made himself look interesting for an old white establishment guy. Jeb wasn’t given enough time to speak, but his attack on Rubio only diminished his chances. The real winners were Rubio and Cruz. Cruz especially helped his cause by not coming across as a fire-breather. And I have to say that I have a newfound respect for Chris Christie, although I’m not sure his performance last night is enough to put him in the top 3 contenders for the nomination. My guess is that both Trump and Carson will fade and that the nomination will go to either Bush, Cruz, or Rubio. My gut feeling is that in the end it will be Rubio.

    Sorry, but I just don’t believe that Republican primary voters will nominate either Trump or Carson – they’re simply going through the “Giuliani Syndrome” again. We should get a more realistic view of the top 3 finalists by early or mid-December.


    October 29, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    • You should be embarrassed whenever Ricky Santaforum opens his big mouth and spout non-sense.

      It makes IAs look bad!


      October 29, 2015 at 2:18 PM

  12. OT – Anyone care to unpack this paragraph from the wikipedia page on the Black Egyptian Hypothesis?

    “Since the second half of the 20th century, most (but not all) scholars have held that applying modern notions of race to ancient Egypt is anachronistic.[7][8][9] The focus of some experts who study population biology has been to consider whether or not the Ancient Egyptians were primarily biologically North African rather than to which race they belonged.[30]”

    So, ‘modern’ notions of race don’t include population biological distinctions? Who edits this stuff?


    October 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    • King Tut had red hair. Guess his ethnicity. Scholars are trying to pull a fast one by trying to ignore the race issue.


      October 29, 2015 at 2:19 PM

  13. It was a horrible night for Jeb. He doesn’t even try to fight back Trump because he’s been beaten up so many times. He thought he could get some alpha points by attacking young pretty boy Rubio. But Rubio struck back at him hard. On top of it all NJ bumpkin Chris Christie called him rude and actually made it stick!


    October 29, 2015 at 11:46 AM

  14. I don’t check Drudge all that often, but I notice he (they?) frequently posts links to Lion-centric topics like climate change skepticism, immigration skepticism, and drones and automation disrupting the economy.


    October 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    • Maybe someone who works for Drudge is reading my blog?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2015 at 2:33 PM

      • Not really. Those topics are commonly discussed on right leaning circles.


        October 29, 2015 at 2:42 PM

  15. I LOATHE Rubio. He comes off as an “ingratiating bellboy”, but he’s a dangerous and calculating little twit. He WANTS to be bought-and-paid-for and do Zuckerberg/Adelson’s bidding in a heartbeat. He’ll amnesty all of Mexico (and beyond) so fast that it’s not even funny.


    October 29, 2015 at 2:16 PM

  16. An astute young person asks Trump again about H1Bs at his rally today in Reno, NV. Trump gives the correct answer. Americans first.

    Go to 1:16:30:

    Andrew E.

    October 29, 2015 at 4:38 PM

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