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Rubio prediction

The mysterious cabal of Republican Party elites and super-wealthy donors who appointed Jeb heir apparent will pull their support from Jeb and back Rubio. This will become apparent over the next two to three weeks.

Jeb will be pressured to withdraw and publicly endorse Rubio.

One thing which is not clear to me is what happens to the $100 million in Jeb’s super-PAC?

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This doesn’t mean that Rubio is a shoe-in. Carson is obviously going to win Iowa; that mysterious cabal needs to pump up Rubio’s support so he can defeat Trump in New Hampshire.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 29, 2015 at 12:14 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Rubio does seem to be the establishment back-up plan. Quite a journey from Tea Party darling to betraying all that for power. The devil must offer some very attractive terms.

    Mike Street Station

    October 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm

  2. The “Z Man” on his blog predicted that the party elites would give the nomination to Rubio, for what it is worth:

    I have been saying that this is not the 70s, and the party elites have gotten the nomination processes effectively gamed so they can get the nominee they want, or at least prevent anyone they don’t want to win the nomination. They can use the Iowa caucus rules to gang up on the outsider, ignore New Hampshire and Iowa and feature some later primary as the key test, use their South Carolina firewall, if needed block the outsider at the convention where the super-delegates come into play, or get the outsider to withdrawal. I have seen all of this since following this stuff. This stuff is pretty much for entertainment, and may have some importance in that the establishment candidates are auditioning to be the ones everyone rallies around, and if they fall flat (Walker, Bush), the elite will back some other candidate.

    The significant thing about Rubio is less that he is Hispanic, but that he comes from the same state as Bush. Usually its only one state per candidate. The more “serious” candidates can milk their home state for funds, especially if they are the governor (though it helps to be the sitting governor instead of a former governor). Only one of Bush or Rubio can win the Florida primary, and presumably its hard to continue if you can’t win even the primary in your home state. They both are pretty obviously candidates for the corporate “invade the world, invite the world” part of the party. The best that I can figure out is that Rubio is there as the designated replacement for Bush, in case Bush fell flat as seems to be happening.


    October 29, 2015 at 1:25 pm

  3. I LOATHE Rubio. A community college mediocrity who has used his clean-cut Hispanic-ness to go very far. In a just world, he really would be just an ingratiating bellboy.

    He WANTS to be bought-and-paid-for by the likes of Zuck/Adelson. Rubio means instant amnesty and worse.


    October 29, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    • He passed the bar exam. That makes him smart, right?


      October 29, 2015 at 3:13 pm

      • No.

        Viscount Douchenozzlé

        October 29, 2015 at 6:53 pm

  4. Rubio seems like a lightweight. Hillary will snarl at him once and he will scurry back to Florida. Rubio does not have what it takes to go after the wicked witch of the west. Also, Rubio wants Mexico and the Caribbean inside our borders.


    October 29, 2015 at 2:25 pm

  5. Get ready for 8 years of Hillary if Rubio gets the nomination. With a Ryan Congress (and likely Dem gains in the Senate), amnesty will be guaranteed and the game will be over.

    Disappointed in Trump with his tax plan, his answer on H1Bs and now his seeming support of Paul Ryan. Guess he is still the best we can hope for and the only Republican who can win however.

    Santorum actually is the strongest on immigration but he is stuck in the JV debate. He did challenge Graham on his open borders support, however.


    October 29, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    • Disappointed in Trump with his tax plan, his answer on H1Bs and now his seeming support of Paul Ryan.

      EXCLUSIVE — Donald Trump Rights Ship on Immigration: Demands Disney Rehire Workers Replaced by Cheap Foreign Labor, Calls Rubio ‘Silicon Valley’s Puppet’

      BNN: Hundreds of workers at Disney were forced to train their foreign replacements. But while Florida Senator Nelson rallied to their cause, Senator Rubio did not. While Nelson has called for an investigation, Rubio has not. While Nelson has called to reduce H-1Bs, Rubio has demanded more. Senator Rubio has been the top promoter in Congress for expanding the H-1B program even though millions American tech workers are out of jobs. Rubio’s new bill triples H-1Bs and has zero protections for American workers. Advocates for tech workers said Rubio’s bill would “destroy” the U.S. tech workforce. Rubio’s bill is even endorsed by the CEO of Disney. What do you think of Rubio’s bill?

      DT: It’s a disaster. It would allow any company in America to replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor. It legalizes job theft. It gives companies the legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs. More than 80 percent of these H-1Bs are paid less than the average wage. Senator Rubio works for the lobbyists, not for Americans. That is why he is receiving more money from Silicon Valley than any other candidate in this race. He is their puppet.


      October 30, 2015 at 11:38 am

  6. Ross Douthat in NYTimes predicts Rubio winning by being the last man standing. I interpret this to mean, Douthat prefers Rubio now that Jeb Bush is floundering.


    October 29, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    • So Douthat is in the anyone-but-Trump camp.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2015 at 6:28 pm

      • So Douthat is in the anyone-but-Trump camp.

        He works for the NY Times! If he wants to keep his job as the token “conservative” he better not side with Trump.

        The NY Times hates Trump and pro Trump people.

        They represent EVERYTHING the creeps at the NY Times hate!


        October 30, 2015 at 11:29 am

      • He works for the NY Times! If he wants to keep his job as the token “conservative” he better not side with Trump.

        Exactly what we’d expect from a paper owned by a liberal New England WASP like Sulzberger.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 1, 2015 at 10:36 am

  7. Jeb isn’t working out. What about Neal Bush? Whatever happened to that guy after the exciting days of the S&Ls? Or Marvin Bush? Seems level-headed.

    Greg Pandatshang

    October 29, 2015 at 5:19 pm

  8. It seems like everyone knows what’s what when it comes to Rubio… same as Jeb. That’s why I can’t see him winning the nomination without a major cock-block by Carson. Carson is being propped up as a spoiler because everyone knows he can’t win. There’s only one Republican candidate who has enough cross-over appeal to win the general election.


    October 29, 2015 at 6:10 pm

  9. …that mysterious cabal

    Mark Zuckerberg and Sheldon Adelson and I guess now the Koch brothers are your idea of mysterious??


    October 29, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    • They are all Jews?


      October 30, 2015 at 3:12 am

      • They are all Jews?

        I’m not sure. The Koch brothers are not.

        Jewish billionaires and other Jewish super rich are disproportionately financing ALL the candidates. Except Trump. Although Trump will no doubt be working with many Jewish billionaires who like and agree with him. Obviously Carl Icahn for one.


        October 30, 2015 at 11:34 am

      • Trump’s daughter is Jewish.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2015 at 11:57 am

      • Trump’s daughter is Jewish.

        She’s not part of the mysterious cabal that supports Rubio.

        Unless you know something.


        October 30, 2015 at 12:34 pm

      • Add another one to the not so mysterious cabal. Jewish billionaire Paul Singer.

        Billionaire investor Paul Singer will be raising money for Sen. Marco Rubio’s (R-Fla.) presidential campaign, The New York Times reported Friday evening.

        Singer sent a letter to other Republican donors Friday calling Rubio the only GOP candidate who can “navigate this complex primary process, and still be in a position to defeat” Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, according to the report.

        “He is accustomed to thinking about American foreign policy as a responsible policy maker,” Singer further wrote. “He is ready to be an informed and assertive decision-maker.”

        Singer’s support caps a successful week for Rubio, who got the best of presidential rival former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush two days earlier.

        Rubio shut down Bush after the former governor accused him of abandoning his Senate work for the campaign trail.

        Rubio is in third place in the GOP race with 9.3 percent support, according to a RealClearPolitics average of national polls.

        Singer is a longtime Republican donor who contributed to former President George W. Bush’s campaigns and to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group dedicated to attacking John Kerry when he ran against Bush for president in 2004.

        Singer is the founder of hedge fund Elliott Management Corporation. He rated 327th on 2015’s Forbes list of richest Americans.

        Rubio also seems to have Sheldon Adelson after Sheldon abandoned closet homosexual loser Lindsey Graham.


        October 31, 2015 at 12:16 am

      • She’s not part of the mysterious cabal that supports Rubio.

        This is why antisemites deserve to have their careers destroyed for talking about Jews – antisemites can never discuss Jews without lying.

        In the case of the proportional level of elite Jews, antisemites always distort that word to mean that whatever organization they’re talking about is 100% Jewish.

        The classic example is the proportionality of Jewish leadership in the Russian Revolution. In general, the early Revolutionary leadership was more or less 20% Jewish, 80% gentile. But antisemites always lie and deliberately give the very wrong impression Communism was entirely or almost entirely Jewish.

        And when they are, rightly, punished for making false claims, they then complain there can’t be any discussion of Jewish disproportionality.

        The reason there’s no discussion is because antisemites are pathological liars who never mention gentiles liberals are more guilty and numerous than Jews; Jews won’t have an issue acknowledging Trotsky and Kaganavich were ethnically Jewish if you weren’t using disproportionate Jewish membership in Communism to cover up the fact Shliapnakov, Menzhensky, Dzdherinsky, Nestor Makhno, Kropotkin, and Stalin were goy revolutionaries.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 1, 2015 at 10:51 am

      • Add another one to the not so mysterious cabal. Jewish billionaire Paul Singer.

        It is not a cabal, Jewish business elites have the same motivations to keep open borders as gentile business elites.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 1, 2015 at 10:53 am

  10. Rubio is 1.7 to 1 and Bush is now 10.5 to 1 on Betfair. Only a few days ago Bush was favourite at around 2 to 1 so his price has drifted extremely quickly in what is generally a very slow moving market.Trump is 5 to 1.


    October 29, 2015 at 6:13 pm

  11. My bet is that the ticket will be Trump/Carson, for market sizing/segmentation reasons. Neither Sanders and Clinton are polling well among blacks; meanwhile, obviously very few Latinos will vote GOP in 2016. Rubio is dead in the water now that Trump has made immigration such a core issue. And that’s the point – it’s all theatre anyway and the notion that Rubio is somehow ahead right now keeps armchair right-wing politicos (of which there are quite a lot) engaged and more likely to vote, something the GOP has to worry about more than the Dems do.

    Oh, and the ‘mysterious cabal’ of GOP donors isn’t terribly mysterious – a combination of old-line WASP tycoons and industrialists from the east coast and midwest, a few Jewish billionaires here and there, the usual collection of midlevel rich flyover types and sin industry tycoons, oilmen, etc. No point in listing names, it’s all easily found online if one knows where to look.

    Viscount Douchenozzlé

    October 29, 2015 at 6:53 pm

  12. Noah Millman’s analysis (from before the most recent debate) sounds smart:

    It’s Trump vs. Carson vs. Rubio vs. Cruz at this point. Right now, Carson is leading among evangelicals, but Cruz has the resources to hang around and try to take over that spot. Rubio doesn’t have a lot of support from voters, but they don’t matter all that much, now do they.

    Greg Pandatshang

    October 29, 2015 at 7:24 pm

  13. I saw this coming a long time ago. Say what you want about Rubio’s supposed low iq…he is one of the best natural politicians that I have ever seen. The kid will stay in the picture.


    October 29, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    • That’s what bugs me about Rubio. If it wasn’t for amnesty, I’d love the guy.

      Mike Street Station

      October 29, 2015 at 9:52 pm

      • That’s what bugs me about Rubio. If it wasn’t for amnesty, I’d love the guy.

        Why? He’s an ugly, low IQ, religious kook with NO resume of achievement, a gutless empty suit.

        He represents so much that is wrong with the Republican party. Evangelical low IQ pandering pawn of rich donors who hate “middle America”, empty of intellect, character and achievement.

        Rubio is garbage.

        At least Cruz has some intellect.


        October 30, 2015 at 11:44 am

  14. Jeb’s super PAC has the option returning the money to donors or spending it to support Rubio or even Trump. The PAC is under no obligations to return the money. If Jeb drops out then he can coordinate with the super PAC to determine how the money gets spent, which he can’t do now as an official candidate. Having a $100M super pac makes you an influential figure.


    October 30, 2015 at 8:54 am

  15. Trump came out way ahead in the CNBC, Drudge and Newsmax polls. Not scientific, but the numbers are huge. Carson was in the 3-4% range. Now that ¡Jeb! seems to imploding, Rubio is becoming the new poster boy for the GOP Establishment – Open Borders crowd. He’s never impressed me.

    Black Death

    October 30, 2015 at 9:06 am

  16. Rubio is a mediocrity that happens to be part of the cuban political machine in South Florida, he would have never been elected senator otherwise. His past accomplishments include:
    -Using republican party funds to renovate his house
    -Being one of the chief architects of that monstruous amnesty bill along with Chuck Schumer and McCain
    -Buying a speedboat and an Audi, yet missing mortgage payments for his house for 5 months.
    -Sponsoring a 500% increase in H1B visas, annually 65,000 H1B visas are issued, Marco wants to increase that to 325,000.
    The guy is a smooth talking charlatan, plenty of crooked politicians like him in P.Rico/Mexico/Argentina don’t fall for it.

    Daniel Gonzalez Buitrago

    October 30, 2015 at 12:31 pm

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