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Defiance sucks

I liked Dark Matter so much, I started watching another SyFy series, Defiance… and it sucks. After watching half of the first season, I quit. The characters are just too unrealistically self-righteous for a lawless dystopian society, and law enforcement of the future is unable to secure a prisoner without him or her escaping. After this happened for the fourth time, I realize that the people who wrote these scripts are morons.

Anyone have any other suggestions for what I should watch?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 9, 2015 at EST am

Posted in Television

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  1. Mr. Robot

    Alex

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • Mr Robot IS a great show. It was not about robots as I had thought, but it’s almost a caricature of a lefty written show. Every liberal box is checked. But at least in this case that doesn’t distract from really good acting and writing. I would recommend it.

      Mike Street Station

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • mr. robot sucks, it’s a mangina show about an internet white knight

      zodak

      November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  2. I thought you meant that defiance as a concept sucked, because, for most people, material rewards are obtained through conformity.

    JA

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • This is what I thought as well.

      ScarletNumber

      November 10, 2015 at EST am

  3. The Knick & Fargo is what I’m currently watching.

    uatu

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  4. Its not really SF and its well into its 3rd season but The Black List is really good. It will be better though if you can catch the earlier seasons.

    beyond that I don’t know. I like SF but there hasn’t been a show since Continuum I was willing to watch

    A.B Prosper

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  5. Not a series, but there is a long movie on the korean war called Tae Guk Gi (Brotherhood of war) which is very good, I watched it a few months ago.

    Daniel Gonzalez Buitrago

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  6. Battlestar Galactica (2004-2007)
    Stargate (SG1, Atlantis, Universe)
    Doctor Who – Torchwood – Caprica – Fringe – Jericho – The 4400

    Black Mirror is supposed to be really good but haven’t seen it.

    destructure

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • I enjoyed most of these shows.

      Stargate deserves its own post.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • The original Battlestar Galactica Series were better. Pretty Boy-Dirk Benedict was great in the series. The same with his character “Face” in A-Team.

      He was killing 2 birds with one stone, in this A-Team scene:

      JS

      November 10, 2015 at EST pm

  7. Mr Robot

    larry

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • And Orphan Black

      Larry

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

  8. Ray Donovan, on Showtime, is good. Every season has been better than the last so far.

    Black Sails, on Starz, is good too, despite a gay subplot or two shoehorned in. Pirate show, but with impressive production values.

    Other than that, Game of Thrones, if you haven’t been watching it, is the best series HBO has made yet.

    Justified (FX) just had its series finale early this year. That was a great series.

    I can’t think of any other series I’m watching now. A lot of people like Walking Dead though.

    Dave Pinsen

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  9. have you seen the shield? it’s not scifi, it’s a police drama, but it was excellent.

    rivelino

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  10. Suggestions, a few recent British SciFi shows.

    Black Mirror: Its like a more modern twilight zone, about how technology affects society. Each episode is it’s own story, and each episode is worthy of a post.
    Utopia: Violent and weird eugenics conspiracy.

    someonecheeky

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  11. Defiance was less a TV show and more of a weird marketing experiment in which the game came first, and then the show, and they were somehow supposed to cross promote each other. If the game had been more successful, maybe the show would have been more successful too, but as a show, it just wasn’t very good. Game concepts may work well in a game but not translate well into an actual drama. The world of Defiance just didn’t make sense. It was ridiculous and thankfully, the show was killed.

    Mike Street Station

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  12. A Soviet classic

    Yakov

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  13. Forget that sci-fi malarkey and watch “Poldark” for some costume drama!

    Also, if you’ve never watched HBOs “Rome,” in my humble opinion it’s the best show they ever did and a damn shame it was only two seasons.

    “Longmire” gets good reviews but I’ve never seen it.

    Honestly, the number of tv shows available these days is insane.

    peterike

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • I second Longmire. Husband loves it.

      slithy toves

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • Rome was great.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

      • Spartacus!

        Tarl

        November 9, 2015 at EST am

      • The one thing about that show is the casting was PERFECT.

        chairman

        November 9, 2015 at EST pm

    • Rome’s first season was amazing. I found the series got lost in the second season, following around the two legionnaires and their wacky hijinks.

      ***Narcos is excellent. New series on Netflix. If you hate subtitles, I believe there is an English dub for the Spanish parts. Much of the dialogue is in Spanish.

      ibejeph

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

  14. Vikings, Black Sails, Tyrant, Marco Polo and Game of Thrones.

    Matt Robson (@MattRobsonSEO)

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  15. The Sopranos is surprisingly good and addictive. I always assumed it wasn’t worth watching but it’s a lot like Breaking Bad. However it’s on Amazon Prime. Michael Imperioli is fantastic as a not-very-bright guido.

    All the 24 seasons are on prime as well. That show is great for killing time.

    slithy toves

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • Sopranos was great, one of the first of the modern TV dramas.

      24 was only good for five seasons. The sixth season was horrible. After quitting after a few episodes, I did some research and learned that the original creative people were fired after season five for some reason or other.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 9, 2015 at EST am

      • Hill Street Blues was the first modern TV drama.

        Dave Pinsen

        November 10, 2015 at EST pm

  16. I saw a couple of episodes of Defiance, and it didn’t convince me. Have you watched Helix? I saw the pilot on Netflix, and enjoyed it, but I didn’t get a chance to see more episodes.
    Bates Motel is pretty good, too

    markus

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

  17. If you prefer a neat and clean 1967-68 Southern California to a claustrophobic space ship, try “The Invaders” on U-Tube. Over 40 videos available with no commercials. “Alien beings from a dying planet.”

    jef

    November 9, 2015 at EST am

    • UFO?

      J1

      November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  18. I also thought Defiance sucked. One of the annoying things about it is how it, like many other “science fiction” shows such as Battlestar Gallactica and Firefly, ends up embracing supernatural/paranormal/religious themes. It makes things unpredictable and lets the writers get away with dues ex machina all the time.

    jasonbayz

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

    • That wasn’t the problem with BSG. The problem was the writers didn’t have enough of a series-long story arc to last the seasons the show was on. They wrapped it up nicely in the last 8 episodes or so, but there was a lot of filler in between.

      Breaking Bad was a good counterexample. Rather than keep putting off the protagonist reaching his objective, they let him achieve it, and then showed what happened when he did. If BSG writers wrote Breaking Bad, Walter White would have never gotten past Tuco until the series finale.

      Dave Pinsen

      November 9, 2015 at EST pm

      • Breaking Bad is is Rorschach test on how you view white people.

        map

        November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  19. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles was good, but it did have its slow parts which is why it got cancelled (it ends with a cliffhanger).

    Extant with Halle Berry was OKish too, I guess.

    Count Dracula

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  20. Rick and Morty

    Winging It

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  21. If you haven’t watched Killjoys it was first airing right beside Dark Matter and I found it to be the more enjoyable of the two shows

    Marc KS

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  22. I just started watching “Unlimited” a series based on the move. Bradley Cooper is in the series too, but plays a minor part, so far. I’m really enjoying it.

    “Rome” was excellent, but they didn’t use enough imagination. I wanted to see Roman police detectives, cowboys, eating at restaurants, etc. I’m sure there were all these things back then.

    CamelCaseRob

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

    • I think you mean Limitless.

      It is a pretty good show. I wasn’t convinced that they could make the concept interesting as a series but the main character is a likable everyman who just happens to get super intelligent every day at work.

      Mike Street Station

      November 10, 2015 at EST pm

  23. Are you watching “The Strain”? I have gradually gotten more and more into it and eagerly await each new episode now.

    CamelCaseRob

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  24. For me to spend time on a movie it has to be something special and there are amazing movies, not many, but they exist. I’ve given you some, but also check these out:

    1. ‘Takva: A Man’s Fear of God’ Turkish. Brilliant depiction of sincere faith clashing with religious institutions. A gem.

    2. ‘The Forgiveness of Blood’ Albanian. Modernity slowly influencing ancient tribal laws. Great plot and acting. When working with Albanians in HVAC, I read their literature and learned about their history. The movie put it all together for me in a powerful way. That was realy how I’d thought they were. Interesting people. Outstanding!

    3. Maria Full of Grace – A pregnant Colombian teenager becomes a drug mule to make some desperately needed money for her family.

    4. ‘Tsotsi’ South African. Crime and redemption. Well worth it.

    The question is why watch a movie? I like deep issues, outstanding acting and learning about foreign cultures. Hard to imagine that a TV series ‘Rome’ could’ve done justice to that society. Lion, why was ‘Rome’ good?

    Yakov

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

    • Yes, Rome was good.

      So was Borgia which is available on Netflix (not to be confused with The Borgias which is also available on Netflix but I haven’t watched it, I only watched Borgia).

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 9, 2015 at EST pm

      • But why was it good? Why you liked it?

        Yakov

        November 9, 2015 at EST pm

      • Borgia and Rome both realistically depict the morality of the time period which seems alien and evil to we who live in the present.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 9, 2015 at EST pm

    • Hate to interrupt, but the irony that an Orthodox Jewish HVAC installer has the most sophisticated and interesting taste in TV and movies of any commentator on this blog is not lost on me at all, and indeed hilarious!

      Viscount Douchenozzlé

      November 10, 2015 at EST pm

      • Good thing he’s not Hassidic. The Hassidim don’t believe in watching secular media because of its corrupting influence.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 10, 2015 at EST pm

      • Ushpizin, that I’d recommend was produced by a newly hassidic couple. I’d heard that their kids were expelled from school after the release and they got a lot of flack from the community. Modern media being insidious, I chose to show my kids quality works rather than have them have their first exposures to trash. Take ‘Baran’ for example, a love story with multiple subplots where the hero twice gives up everything for a girl that he had never spoken to, let alone touched or kissed. Indictment of society and culture so subtle as to pass mullahs’ censorship. Available on YouTube with English subtitles.

        Yakov

        November 11, 2015 at EST am

      • A 3 minute clip from a Soviet spy thriller. The hero is meeting his wife in a German cafe. Brilliant!

        Yakov

        November 11, 2015 at EST pm

  25. Banshee on Cinemax.

    There is a very good period piece on BBC called The Last Kingdom.

    The first season of Fargo is excellent.

    Mr. Robot is good.

    map

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  26. Check out the movie Serenity.

    map

    November 9, 2015 at EST pm

  27. check out wayward pines, spartacus, and nathan for you

    don

    November 10, 2015 at EST pm

  28. Seriously, no one has suggested The Wire? Not to mention Six Feet Under and Deadwood.

    driveallnight

    November 11, 2015 at EST am

  29. The Wire. Six Feet Under. Deadwood.

    driveallnight

    November 11, 2015 at EST am

  30. “[A]ny other suggestions[?]”

    If you like science fiction, and you like funny, then you’ll like “Other Space”. It’s like “Red Dwarf” only funnier.

    Yahoo’s production arm lost money this year. Hope the show gets picked up for a second season nonetheless.

    Joe

    November 11, 2015 at EST pm


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