Lion of the Blogosphere

After the debate

One needs to view the Drudge Poll in light of how it differs from the previous post-debate Drudge polls.

Evangelical Christians don’t read Drudge. Carson has taken the lead in the real polls even though he scored just as miserably in the Drudge polls in previous debates. I think Carson had his best debate yet, his supporters will support him even more strongly. He’s definitely winning Iowa and he’s going to be around for a long time. I don’t think he will win the nomination. The non-hardcore-evangelicals will rally around someone else as they usually do.

Trump had a bad night. Even though he leads in the Drudge poll, this is the first debate where less than half the respondents thought he won.

Cruz had a great night. He forcefully preached against amnesty for illegal aliens. He did a better job of being anti-immigrant than Trump. Thus his high support of 22.46% (as of right now) in the Drudge poll.

Rubio for some reason has 12.74% support. This means that Bush is toast. Time for Bush to withdraw. Bush comes in dead last in the Drudge poll. (If Rubio had been given a chance to talk about immigration, he probably would have supported amnesty and tanked his ratings among Drudge readers, but luckily for him he didn’t get that question. Rubio also benefited from a softball question about Hillary Clinton’s resume. Makes you wonder if there was a secret agenda by the people in charge of the debate to boost Rubio?)

Among liberal types in the media, Kasich no doubt scored a huge victory last night. He forcefully explained his pro-Amnesty only-sane-man-in-a-room-of-wingnuts view of conservatism. Kasich should have been the guy picked by the party elites and wealthy donors instead of Bush, but they were suckered into supporting Bush because of his last name. Their mistake will be a huge victory for the American people if Trump wins because of that mistake.

I suppose that Carly Fiorina is running for Vice President under the theory that someone else (such as Mark Rubio?) would be stupid enough to pick her because she’s a woman and Republicans need to show the world they are not misogynists. How did picking a woman for VP work out for Walter Mondale or John McCain? However, given Republican presidential nominees’ track record for making incredibly stupid choices in picking running mates, I guess she has a chance.

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Based on the debate, my support for Trump is stronger than ever. I was previously irked by Trump’s tax plan which is a huge tax cut for the rich, but compared to the insane tax plans proposed by candidates who aren’t Bush or Kasich, his tax plan seems quite reasonable in comparison. And as commenters have pointed out to me over the last month, Trump can’t change anything about the tax code without Congress passing a new law, but he can start deporting illegal immigrants the day he gets into office by simply enforcing the laws that already exist.

I also believe that Trump will have a foreign policy in which he won’t take crap from other countries, but at the same time won’t get involved in every civil war in the Middle East because it makes us feel morally righteous. Bush accused him of treating the world like a board game (because he supports letting Assad, Putin and ISIS fight among themselves), but that’s what it is. That’s how the world does work.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 11, 2015 at 8:50 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. Trump had a good night. His answer on deportations was terrific, better than Cruz. He made a moral argument about laws and borders. Much more important that Cruz’s economic angle. Besides, Trump paved the way for Cruz’s answer, made it much easier to say once Trump laid out the moral framework.

    The candidates, moderators and debate crowd (GOPe stacked) all wanted to hear Trump give some ground on deportations and Trump stood strong and gave them nothing.

    Andrew E.

    November 11, 2015 at 9:32 am

  2. “Their mistake will be a huge victory for the American people if Trump wins because of that mistake.”

    About time. Their mistakes have been handing the coalition of the fringes victories now for how many years? Would be nice if their stupidity actually helped the American people for once.

    Curle

    November 11, 2015 at 11:15 am

  3. Mark Rubio

    Tee hee!

    E. Rekshun

    November 11, 2015 at 11:29 am

  4. I suppose that Carly Fiorina is running for Vice President …

    What about Cruz as Trump’s running mate?

    Cruz is a high IQ guy unlike Rubio but he has other negatives. Cruz has better rhetorical skills than Trump and Trump’s high energy seems almost caffeine like without needed depth. I don’t think he has a team to prepare him and give him more rhetorical substance. This whole let Trump be Trump strategy might make him vulnerable on detailed attacks.

    Kasich is a smug slimeball. Carson’s White religious support is embarrassing.

    The minimum wage issue is going to be devastated by automation which Rubio laughably calls robots.

    Who cares about $12 hr jobs when only 2 people are working there with everything else automated.

    Rifleman

    November 11, 2015 at 11:50 am

  5. Kasich has bad posture and moves his arms around weirdly and too much.

    Tom

    November 11, 2015 at 12:16 pm

  6. Yeah, “treating the world like a board game” means what, exactly? Sounds like Bush is complaining that Trump wants to use strategy.

    Greg Pandatshang

    November 11, 2015 at 12:20 pm

  7. I only watched the first hour. I think that Rubio did really, really well. From what I have seen he is a great debater. I really hope that Kasich, Bush, and Fiorina stay in to keep some of their supporters from shifting to Rubio. The establishment is probably already behind Rubio but out of courtesy to the Bushes they are waiting a little longer before announcing it. The nomination is going to go to Trump or Rubio. Trump would beat Clinton, Rubio wouldn’t.

    T

    November 11, 2015 at 12:23 pm

  8. I wonder in what election year a candidate will have the cajones to say RE: immigration: “White people don’t want to be a (hated) minority in their own country.”

    fakeemail

    November 11, 2015 at 12:31 pm

  9. The debate audience appeared to have been selected entirely from a list of attendees at a National Review cruise.

    Trump had a few weak moments, but his immigration response opened the door for Cruz to make his own excellent points on the subject. The biggest problem with the immigration issue is the taboo associated with bringing it up in the first place.

    I think it’s a huge coup that two candidates were speaking out forcefully, without apology about illegal immigration. That’s a prerequisite to the public coming out from their hiding places. What an irony that illegal immigrants have no reason to hide; only those who oppose it do!

    On Rubio: is there a single Middle Eastern country that he doesn’t want to bomb?

    SWPL2

    November 11, 2015 at 12:57 pm

  10. “Evangelical Christians don’t read Drudge”

    You’re very, very incorrect about this. Also note that Cruz is probably the most pro-life of the Republican candidates.

    J1

    November 11, 2015 at 2:38 pm

  11. Who are these Evangelicals? I have never met one in my life.

    Lion you buy into the left media myth that there exists a huge, troglodyte mass of white, low IQ, Christian Evangelicals who take their political philosophy from the book of Revelation. It is just a myth. They don’t exist, not in any great numbers anyway. And they certainly don’t exist in Iowa or New Hampshire. Carson’s numbers come from Republicans who are, in fact, quite liberal and guilt ridden, relative to the majority of the Republican base. They will soon enough realize Carson’s deficiencies and his support will evaporate.

    Daniel

    November 11, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    • A significant percentage of evangelicals are black, and black evangelicals could easily compose all of the black vote for Republicans.

      J1

      November 11, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    • I was in a room full of them just last week for a political fundraiser. They are good people, but no match for the Left wingers they are up against. Paul Gottfried is correct. White Gentiles are outmatched.

      Curle

      November 11, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      • The left-wingers they are up against are also white gentiles.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 11, 2015 at 5:05 pm

      • Paul Gottfried is correct. White Gentiles are outmatched.

        The gentiles who are antisemites are; those types are so FUBAR they’re now dependent on Jews like the HausJude Gottfried (now reduced to making lame excuses for Kevin MacDonald’s lying and fraud, not mention his running American antisemitism into the ground) and Unz’s servers to make their case for them.

        But cheer up, you can always escape to Sweden and enjoy an immigration system not ”run” by Jews.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 11, 2015 at 11:14 pm

      • Twenty years of Kevin MacDonald’s leadership has led American antisemitism, what very little is left of it, to be put under life support care of antisemitic Jews.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 11, 2015 at 11:16 pm

      • The neocons seem to be getting what they want.

        Curle

        November 12, 2015 at 1:13 am

      • The neocons seem to be getting what they want.

        What’s your point? If you mean foreign policy, neocons are certainly not getting their way because Obama is pro Islamic terrorism and pro-Iran. That Obama has attacked Middle Eastern nations has nothing to do with neoconservatism; he attacked them to destroy pro-American Middle Eastern governments and spread Muslim terrorism because identifies with Islamic Jihad.

        If you mean winning in the sense that American antisemitism is a broken down shell, it’s the fool antisemites fault for investing their credibility in MacDonald who based his evidence on sources that often contradict his own case; the antisemitic equivalent of a young earth creationist misstating Darwin”s writings to prove Darwin believed God created earth in six days and rested on the seventh.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 13, 2015 at 12:21 am

    • Who are these Evangelicals? I have never met one in my life.

      Lion you buy into the left media myth that there exists a huge, troglodyte mass of white, low IQ, Christian Evangelicals who take their political philosophy from the book of Revelation. It is just a myth. They don’t exist,

      You are in denial to say the least. Evangelical, end times Christians are a real group in America. They go to church, buy books and congregate in the Republican party.

      They are real people just like Catholics, libertarians, SWPL liberals, etc etc.

      Rifleman

      November 11, 2015 at 11:03 pm

      • True, they do exist, but they’re often misunderstood. For one thing, “Evangelical” and “end times” are not synonymous, though there’s a lot of overlap. Daniel did have a point, in that liberals greatly overestimate their numbers and influence (when they’re feeling down. At other times they like to point out how these right-wing troglodytes are on the way out because of immigration and the liberalism of young people.)

        Hermes

        November 12, 2015 at 12:49 am

  12. Excellent point that Kasich should have been the GOPe candidate. He’s a fresher face and name and doesn’t have the stink of past GOP failures on him, even has a federal victory (90s budget) that he can try to claim. He doesn’t have Rubio’s record of failure on immigration, so he could have gone the lie route and claim he’d be tough on immigration and then do a 180 once in office, like GOPe candidates have done for years.

    His problem, of course is similar to Jeb’s: Total charmlessness.

    jackmcg

    November 11, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    • Kasich also looks like he’s on bath salts. All of his weird gyrating, sweating and blinking makes me uncomfortable. What the fuck is up with that?

      B.T.D.T.

      November 11, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    • Kasich should have been the GOPe candidate. He’s a fresher face and name and doesn’t have the stink of past GOP failures on him…

      And, as he’s pleased to remind us ad nauseam, he was there with Reagan, right there with him!

      Jonathan Silber

      November 11, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    • Kasich had a TV show on MSNBC for six years didn’t he? The media experience doesn’t seem to have done him any good. Huckabee made more hay out of his show than Kasich did.

      Mrs Stitch

      November 11, 2015 at 11:28 pm

  13. Among liberal types in the media, Kasich no doubt scored a huge victory last night. He forcefully explained his pro-Amnesty only-sane-man-in-a-room-of-wingnuts view of conservatism.

    I don’t get it. Are you saying you think Kasich is the only sane man in a room of wingnuts, or are you just pointing out that that’s how liberals see him?

    Hermes

    November 12, 2015 at 12:45 am


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