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Liberal talking points

  • If we stop letting in refugees because of this, the terrorist will have won.
  • If France had only better integrated Muslims into society and provided them with better jobs…
  • George W. Bush
  • More people die because of poverty than terrorism.
  • The terrorists don’t understand the true meaning of their religion
  • By banning Muslim women from wearing the hijab and other racist laws, France fomented the hatred which led to them becoming terrorists.
  • The Crusades.
  • Remember that 99.99% of Muslims are good people who condemn these acts of violence.
  • Climate change is a far greater threat than terrorism
  • Dylan Roof, Timonthy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were all Christians.
  • If we respond to these attacks by further dehumanizing entire religious and ethnic groups, we will only set the stage for more extremism.
  • Lack of adequate healthcare kills more people than terrorism.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 14, 2015 at 9:10 am

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  1. “If France had only better integrated Muslims into society and provided them with better jobs…”

    This is probably true, though I think it’s a lot smarter to restrict immigration and then try to reform the economy than trying to reform the economy while at the same time welcoming in a stream of refugees from third world countries.

    “More people die because of poverty than terrorism.”

    World-wide can there be any doubt?

    “Lack of adequate healthcare kills more people than terrorism.”

    Can there be any doubt?

    Of course the latter two I quoted, though true, are irrelevant to the matter.

    chairman

    November 14, 2015 at 9:32 am

    • In the West at least, health is overwhelmingly genetic in nature, so there isn’t much you can do about it (except maybe accidents and predominantly non-genetic diseases like some types of cancer.)

      ruhkukah

      November 14, 2015 at 10:21 am

      • If we stop letting in refugees because of this, the terrorist will have won. > False

        If France had only better integrated Muslims into society and provided them with better jobs… > It’s up to Muslims to integrate, but France could do a better job. weak point with a sliver of truth.

        George W. Bush > True, but worn out.

        More people die because of poverty than terrorism. > Very true.

        The terrorists don’t understand the true meaning of their religion > False

        By banning Muslim women from wearing the hijab and other racist laws, France fomented the hatred which led to them becoming terrorists. > False

        The Crusades. > True, but irrelevant.

        Remember that 99.99% of Muslims are good people who condemn these acts of violence. > False

        Climate change is a far greater threat than terrorism > True.

        Dylan Roof, Timonthy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were all Christians. > True.

        If we respond to these attacks by further dehumanizing entire religious and ethnic groups, we will only set the stage for more extremism. > False. This particular region/ethnic group only responds to AMOGing.

        Lack of adequate healthcare kills more people than terrorism. > Clearly true.

        Weak post lion. You yourself have come out in favor of state-assisted national healthcare.

        uatu

        November 14, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    • How exactly would they integrate them better?

      Changing the subject.

      If climate change is a bigger threat, then there should be no immigration because immigrants who come to more prosperous places jack up their usage of fuels 20x.

      not too late

      November 15, 2015 at 9:24 pm

  2. The liberal mindset is to notice a problem (terrorism! global warming!) and then announce solutions that require us to apologize for the past and have the central gov’t spend more money with various kinds of social intervention. Thus under an extended Barry Hussein administration, school kids will stand up in koran sensitivity class and recite apologies for the crusades.

    bomag

    November 14, 2015 at 10:04 am

  3. https://mobile.twitter.com/Salondotcom/status/611993386933964800/photo/1

    Granted, I know that Salon.com is the bottom of the intellectual barrel, but…

    Sid

    November 14, 2015 at 10:53 am

    • … I didn’t know they’re at the bottom of the moral barrel too.

      Glengarry

      November 14, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    • Sadly they aren’t considered bottom of the barrel. Its intellectual quality is on par with Newsmax, but the latter IS considered bottom of the barrel. Salon’s site design gives away its superior prestige.

      Dain

      November 15, 2015 at 2:03 pm

  4. Time to bring back the Crusades.

    Rosenmops

    November 14, 2015 at 11:00 am

    • The Crusades (not the Spanish Reconquista) were a failure. They were too expensive, men died off halfway before arriving to the Middle East, and most poignant, was the conflict between the Byzantines and Western Catholics, that impeded its goal.

      JS

      November 14, 2015 at 3:29 pm

      • Well, Muslims have invaded Europe many times in the past. They were defeated, for the most part. Now they are just walking into Europe by the thousands without so much as a by your leave.

        We need another Charles Martel.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

        Rosenmop

        November 14, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      • Not to come across as an Islamophile, but the Muslims deserve their place in history as one of the greatest conquering people, whose domains are still pretty much in existence.

        Charles Martel didn’t really defeat the Muslims. All conquerors come to a stop point in terms of expansion, and France was that point in the eyes of the Muslims. This could be the climate and the topography. The desert dwelling natives didn’t really find the damp and cloudy weather of France conducive to their nature, unlike that of Spain, with its sunny and dry Mediterranean climate.

        After the Battle of Tours, the Muslims came into France again with a few skirmishes just a few centuries later, and were successful in holding people hostage at the Abbot of Cluny, and were demanding ransom. This was known as the Battle of Tourtour.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tourtour

        Whites need to learn a chapter from the history of the Spanish Reconquest. You win by emulating your enemy. The Muslims had Muhammad to inspire their zeal for conquest, and the Spaniards did the same with St. James, the Moor Slayer.

        JS

        November 15, 2015 at 1:29 pm

  5. Sure am glad western countries are letting in all these muslim “refugees”. It will stop those terrorists when they see how tolerant and inclusive we are. ಠ_ಠ

    destructure

    November 14, 2015 at 11:26 am

  6. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror.

    Mark Caplan

    November 14, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    • No, I think we have to fear bombings and beheadings and stuff too.

      Mrs Stitch

      November 14, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    • @Mark Caplan

      ‘The Almost Nearly Perfect People’ that you had recommenfed was a good read. Miserable places to live in for a free spirit. Suffocating welfare prisons as I had expected. Poor Vikings.

      Yakov

      November 14, 2015 at 6:54 pm

      • Actually, risk-aversion is probably a pretty sensible adaptation to a place where you can’t grow food half the year.

        SFG

        November 15, 2015 at 9:12 am

      • I don’t think Vikings were risk averse. I think they were hard working, daring and strong. Settling Iceland and Greenland is hardly an act of caution. They fended for themselves, put fear into their neighbours far and near and didn’t have a nanny state. It’s perplexing how they ended up with a society that doesn’t seem to be natural to their race. Where are the guts, the gore and the glory?

        Yakov

        November 15, 2015 at 3:32 pm

  7. There are a few more variations. Here is an authentic quote from today’s opinion page of a European newspaper (translated):

    A society of fear is just what the terrorists want. A Europe where Muslims feel threatened create fertile ground for more supporters of jihadism.

    I thought they didn’t make them like that anymore. This guy belongs at the NYT!

    Glengarry

    November 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm

  8. excellent list.

    SJWs will be the end of the West, if something doesn’t change quickly.

    rivelino

    November 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm

  9. If you think Meriprole liberals are bad with their rhetoric, whenever there is a terrorist attack, the Red Chinese are worse with their boring circle jerk talk from their leaders:

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-11/14/c_134816015.htm

    JS

    November 14, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    • The last time I checked, the Chinese elite were trying to buy large swathes of exquisite wineries in France, and not engage with the French in any meaningful manner. The Chinese (East Asians in general) are isolationists-petty materialists. They make meriproles look like sane consumers.

      JS

      November 14, 2015 at 3:58 pm

  10. The Crusades was an act of defense against Muslims. .

    Shawn

    November 14, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    • Yep.

      destructure

      November 14, 2015 at 6:36 pm

      • It’s quite interesting that a few of the shooters came from Syria via Greece as the gateway. It appears that the Greeks are in their Byzantium mode again, who sort of remain silent on the issue in regards to the Muslims attacking Western Europe, like they did in the Medieval times. Perhaps, this time for the payback of the Euro mess that was created upon them.

        JS

        November 15, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      • Destructure – In regards to that video, Dr. Warner is a low tier, loser STEM professor with a stupid agenda in the likes of Robert Spencer and the other Islamophobes. Epic fail!

        The largest empires were the British and the Mongolian. Spain at one time, wanted to conquer all of Europe. Rome conquer all the territories that Islam later took over.

        Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all Abrahamic faiths that have been in competition with one another.

        We now live in world devoid of competition, especially here in Meriprolestan, where our liberal culture is about promotes false equality and subsidizing the inferior groups.

        Conquering lands and killing people isn’t about being playing nice!!!

        JS

        November 15, 2015 at 9:18 pm

  11. Another talking point I’ve heard a lot on social media is “what about all the people who died in [insert crap country]???” as if the civilized world shouldn’t dare have higher standards for itself.

    I found it interesting the ISIS people explicitly singled out France’s love of “prostitution” as one of their greatest sins. That’s something most liberals are really big into these days.

    Petey

    November 14, 2015 at 6:17 pm

    • For ISIS it qualifies as “prostitution” for women to mix (socially) with males when not in the company of their husband or brother.

      Camlost

      November 15, 2015 at 9:13 am

      • France is one big prostitute of a nation. It betrayed Republican Spain, it betrayed Israel while being her primary arms supplier, it reneged on the mistral deal with Russia after being dully paid for it. And last but not least, it betrayed it’s own people by flooding the country with Muslims and negros. France is a whore.

        Yakov

        November 15, 2015 at 3:42 pm

      • France along with Germany are heading towards the suicidal path of the Anglo-Prole-Sphere. They import non-assimilable non-whites who resent and ultimately hate the White majority, who live the Meriprolestan lifestyle of laziness, ignorance and degeneracy.

        JS

        November 17, 2015 at 11:04 am

      • And this is for MaryK:

        https://twitter.com/ElaineSciolino?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

        A guidette of Sicilian American ancestry who used to work for the NYT and now lives in Paris as a French SWPL. She knows more about Islamic terrorism than most of us here, citing reasons of disenfranchisement of Muslim youths in France for their main reason to join ISIS. Again, France has join the Anglo-Prole-Sphere of importing non-Europeans who can’t assimilate into mainstream society.

        JS

        November 17, 2015 at 11:13 am

  12. You forgot the SJW talking point that no matter what happens, white conservatives are to blame:

    http://www.salon.com/2015/11/14/and_so_the_hate_speech_begins_let_paris_be_the_end_of_the_rights_violent_language_toward_activists/

    American Paleopatriot

    November 14, 2015 at 9:22 pm

  13. Your underlying analysis (lot’s of muslim, lot’s of terrorist support and 5th colomn base) is totally wrong. You’ve got a black problem but you don’t have black people massively shooting white … except when a foreign country (USSR) used to finance them and inspire them (Black Panther).

    So the question is who is the Islamic state ? why did Bachar El Assad let them go from jail ? Why Russia don’t bomb them but Al Nosra and other rebels ? Why do Islamic State don’t go against Bachar and have internal fight against other muslims in the not inhabited region with oil …. ?

    Most probably, Islamic State is made of Saddam Hussein unemployed generals (Irak turned to Shia government) who found a way, with Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, to stay in power and have the money and power, like a mafia-state.

    That’s why there not afraid of doing Takfir against Al Qaida people which seems crazy for every normal sincere muslim, even the one adhering to the most extreme ideology. Without knowing it, Obama was certainly right saying they re not even muslim.

    Then if some people who are for a pure white France want to take advantage of all this to mix the questions, it’s a good tactic but as nothing to do whith a rigourous analysis or logic.

    One thing is youth who can be idealist, violent and manipulated, other are institutions with an ideology supporting concrete material interests.

    Bruno from Paris

    November 15, 2015 at 8:37 am

    • Your President Hollande, watching the soccer game between blacks of France and Germany, deserves what he gets.

      JS

      November 15, 2015 at 1:45 pm

  14. Lack of adequate healthcare does kill more people than terrorism. We still shouldn’t let these jerks get away with it–next thing they’ll be sneaking a nuke into Manhattan.

    Obesity kills more people than homicide, but you don’t see us shutting down police forces. Even Mike Bloomberg kept the NYPD well-funded while he was going after the Big Gulp.

    SFG

    November 15, 2015 at 9:11 am

  15. Another left wing talking point, “It is better to let in a 100 terrorists in than turn away 1 innocent refugee.”

    Jimi

    November 15, 2015 at 2:16 pm

  16. The only thing that could help is reversing migration trends. We should make life very miserable here through a new religion that will encourage aggressive population rise. I do not think anything else will be helpful in the long run.

    MyTwoCents

    November 15, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    • Or if the Vikings would go back to their pagan beliefs, they would put an end to the invasion. Wishful thinking, I know. But then who knows, they maybe worse than ISIS? So I dunno.

      Yakov

      November 15, 2015 at 7:01 pm

  17. obama says that we all share universal values. not true. dagonet makes a good point here. the SJWs conveniently ignore this.

    rivelino

    November 15, 2015 at 6:18 pm

  18. Suggested conservative talking points:
    1. If all Syrians were to suddenly disappear would the world be a better or worse place?
    2. If all Africans were to suddenly disappear would the world be a better or worse place?

    D Meister

    November 16, 2015 at 1:15 am

    • We’d lose diversity. Diversity makes us strong. Without diversity, we would be weak and much worse off.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 16, 2015 at 10:46 am

      • By the way, Lion, beta male rage is never mentioned by you, when it comes to attacks like the one in Paris. Perhaps, sub-consciously, you rate Meriprole shooters lower, because they are prolier!

        JS

        November 17, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      • I don’t know enough about Muslim culture to know for sure, but the beta-male problem is a problem of the loose morals hookup culture, so it doesn’t affect Muslims.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 17, 2015 at 2:21 pm

      • Have you seen the pictures of the terrorists? Not very pretty looking boys, and that hurt their chances witth the social scene in Paris. Furthermore, Muslims in France are stigmatized.

        JS

        November 17, 2015 at 8:31 pm


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