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9/11 rooftop celebration in Jersey City

Someone found an old VHS tape (no cooperation at all from WCBS) and it got posted to YouTube.

1. Demonstrates that people who say that there was not a single celebration in the entire state of New Jersey are dead wrong, yet that is what liberals in the MSM have insisted.

2. Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop said “No one in Jersey City cheered on September 11th,” and that is proved to be false statement.

3. Unfortunately, is not a video of thousands of people celebrating, so liberals can still say Trump is liar.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 2, 2015 at 9:35 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. This is in line with that Scott Adams essay where he talked about Trump using this strategy when he said he was worth 10 billion so that, according to Adams, people would spend lots and lots of time talking about how he’s really worth only 5 billion. Supposedly the increased exposure to the positive thing about trump outweighs the fact that he is being called a liar.

    Lloyd Llewellyn

    December 2, 2015 at 10:24 am

    • May not work the same, since Muslims cheering 9/11 is not a positive thing. At a subconscious level, it associates Trump with bringing up bad memories or bad stuff.

      This is also much easier for the media to handle as they would prefer. You can’t say “Trump lied about being worth 10 billion” and leave it at that, because everybody knows Trump is worth something. You have to say “Trump lied about having 10 billion, he’s really only got 3 billion!” which just confirms the man is super rich.

      Here, the mass media is saying “Trump lied about thousands of New Jersey Muslims celebrating 9/11”. End, period, stop. They’re not forced to say that some Muslims celebrated 9/11 to keep credibility because the average viewer doesn’t necessarily know that is true. You only hear the full truth in ghetto sites like Breitbart, and if you’re going there you didn’t need to be won over by Trump.

      On this subject, Trump would have been much better off sticking strictly to the facts.


      December 2, 2015 at 11:43 am

  2. It’s not just “liberals” who will find fault with Trump in this case, and to say so is to needlessly make this an ideological thing when it’s simply a matter of facts.

    Trump doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about half the time, and just says random things, often misremembered and exaggerated snippets of factoids that might be “inspired by true events” as the Hollywood people say, but otherwise entirely false. This whole “thousands of people” controversy is classic Trump, in that sense. He was clearly, clearly talking out of his backside when he made the original assertion, and now his loyal supporters are scrambling to find even the thinnest shred of evidence to prove, well, he may have been wrong on the objective facts, but was still vaguely correct in some broader, moral sense.

    It’s tiresome. Trump is obviously a professional con man and an airheaded celebrity. If you think he’s the best of a bad lot, fine, but I am getting increasingly tired of his supporters turning into mindless partisans, having to prove he’s always right even when he is clearly wrong, and doing aggressive damage control and spin every time he misspeaks.


    December 2, 2015 at 10:57 am

    • Very good comment.

      Lloyd Llewellyn

      December 2, 2015 at 11:25 am

    • It seems unlikely one could be both an effective con man and an airhead.


      December 2, 2015 at 12:03 pm

      • He’s an airhead politically. He’s competent at conning people. Although to be honest, con jobs aren’t exactly rocket science since they rely on preying on the dumbest amongst us.


        December 2, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    • Trump has shifted the Overton window in the direction of the alt-right and his campaign is the beginning of long overdue white identity politics. Those two things are absolutely invaluable, no matter what his true intentions and motivations are. It’s still a little hard for me to believe that this is actually happening now. I thought we were at least a decade away from this. There’s almost nothing Trump could do that would make me stop supporting him.


      December 2, 2015 at 1:57 pm

      • He’s not going to accomplish any of that if his campaign goes down in disgrace. He may not even accomplish that if he wins. Bush won in part by addressing white fear of black crime but the Willie Horton ad wasn’t the beginning of any kind of political shift.

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        December 2, 2015 at 6:59 pm

      • Trump is an oblivious egomaniac and this causes him say rude or insensitive things now and then. Some people read his more prole-ish comments on Muslims or Hispanics or whatever as a sign he possesses way more depth of thought than he actually does. They assume some of his more flamboyantly politically-incorrect statements will result in a radical alt-right wet dream if he’s elected.

        As far as I’m concerned, Trump’s popularity in alt-right circles is a reflection of their desperation and simplistic fantasy for a messiah. He’s just a rude buffoon. He wants to be liked and his worldview is simply a bizarre combination of ultra-defensiveness for past gaffes combined with what seems to be polling well at the moment. I have about zero doubt that if he made some unintentionally liberal comment that ended up playing really well he’d have no problem branding himself as the GOP’s leading liberal. Considering his long history of liberalism, in fact, that’s probably what he will revert to, Romney-style, if he wins the nomination.


        December 2, 2015 at 7:42 pm

      • @Lloyd, he’s already accomplished a lot. Immigration will now be the litmus test for most viable republican politicians who aren’t establishment whores. And white identity politics in America are inevitable considering projected demographic shifts that probably won’t change too much. Who knows, though? Perhaps President Trump’s Operation Wetback 2.0 will make a real difference. One can hope.

        But it’s obvious that you and Petey aren’t hoping. You’re probably both insulated from these demographic problems and think–if you have them–that this won’t really make a difference in the world your kids grow up in.

        Point taken from both of you, though: give up, angry white people. It’s silly and embarrassing.


        December 2, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    • I love it when political con men complain about politics.

      hall of fame poster

      December 2, 2015 at 8:29 pm

  3. John Nolte, not a Trump supporter, assembles all the pieces and declares Trump 100% vindicated and apologizes for claiming that he’s guilty of exaggerating.

    Lion, I’m a little surprised by the number of Debbie Downers among your readership, which is thought to be “red-pill aware”. I mean, when I saw the light via Lawrence Auster and became aware just how bad things really are I was convinced that I would never hear the things Trump is saying by a major candidate for the presidency in my lifetime (decades still to go).

    People are aware that this is the 11th hour right? The barbarians are already inside the gates over in Europe and our traitor president is using every trick, loophole and lie he can to get as many into our country as possible. Not just to weaken America long term, he knows you get enough in the country that bad things will happen, Paris-style or worse, over the short or medium-term.

    Trump has singlehandedly and against the combined forces of the mass media, the left and right political class and academia, moved the Overton window on immigration, crime, trade, terrorism, Islam and Muslims in America significantly back to the right. What more do we have the right to expect? That unless he also starts telling some truths about Israel/Jews it’s all meaningless?

    There is no one better and no one else is close. And we don’t have any time left to keep searching.

    Andrew E.

    December 2, 2015 at 11:55 am

    • He’s not 100% vindicated because there’s no video that could be interpreted as thousands celebrating. On the other hand, as I said, the immediate reaction of the media was to insist that not a single person celebrated anywhere, and the media is caught lying, while it is not yet proven that Trump didn’t see the video he claims that he saw. Nevertheless, Trump isn’t any more deceitful than the mainstream media which is supposed to be telling us the truth.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 2, 2015 at 11:59 am

  4. An interesting post about the math and whether Trump could or could not be correct.


    December 2, 2015 at 11:56 am

  5. Like Petey above, liberals will say anything to discredit anyone they disagree with.
    Nothing Trump says will change how the libs view Trump and conservatives in general.

    There are enough confirming eyewitness reports now, plus the suppressed celebratory footage from the Palestinians in Israel to convince most people that many, many Muslims were delighted by the take-down of the World Trade Center.
    That was the gist of Trumps remarks – That Muslims celebrated on 9/11.
    That Muslims don’t like the West, and that they particularly don’t like The Great Satan.
    Whether it was only hundreds celebrating in NJ, or thousands, really doesn’t bother me.

    The rest of the candidates are still pretending that Islam is the ‘Religion of Peace’,
    but Petey remains unperturbed by these fabulist notions.
    I’d rather have Trump’s much more realistic view of the situation.

    Does anyone still remember this mural of Saddam smoking a celebratory cigar with
    the Twin Towers burning in the background?


    (Interestingly this is now a hard photo to find on the web.)

    When Hell freezes over liberals will blame it on climate change.

    Nedd Ludd

    December 2, 2015 at 12:43 pm

  6. One point… The left will claim this video is fake.

    hall of fame poster

    December 2, 2015 at 8:22 pm

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