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Donald Trump press release


(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, — Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.” – Donald J. Trump

Link to press release.

Wow, that will give the MSM something to talk about.

6:50 CNN is covering the Trump statement. Trump will soon be making a statement to the media.

6:59 CNN going with their Iowa poll which shows that Trump’s lead has increased, and ignoring the other poll that shows that he slipped behind Cruz.

7:14 All the news makes the liberal narrative look bad. Picture of Farook and his wife dressed all in Islamic gear at the airport. FBI says they were radicalized for a long time. The father says Farook said he agreed with the ideology of the leader of ISIS. Wife and mother wear burkas and never leave the house (except the wife leaves to go to a shooting range with the husband). Are we really supposed to believe the mother didn’t know what was going on in the garage?

7:21 CNN has a guest expert saying he doesn’t believe the mother didn’t know. CNN is now sounding like Fox.

7:22 Just saw picture at the pharmacy school in Pakistan where every woman there wears a burka.

8:26 Stepped out. It’s getting cold outside. We need some more global warming fast.

So I had time to think about it. Stopping all Muslim immigration is a great idea. We don’t need any immigration at all, and we certainly don’t need immigration from a religion that contributes so much to terrorism. There are some practical problems to implementing a ban on all travel by Muslims, regardless of the country or the purpose of the visit. Overall, the policy is less crazy than Trump’s nutty tax plan which is a massive tax cut for the rich and create a massive budget deficit, although it ironically that tax plan was “mainstream” within the context of people running for the Republican nomination.

But Trump has certainly unlocked a taboo previously locked away by political correctness, and he is to be commended for that.

As far as how this makes Muslims here and throughout the world feel, screw them. It’s about time that Muslims face some consequences for embracing and indoctrinating their children in a religion that leads so many towards extreme ideology. Religions do change from outside pressure. Mormons changed their belief in polygamy after the U.S. government threatened military action.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 7, 2015 at 6:49 pm

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  1. Glorious. Crown him King, now!


    December 7, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    • See, this is what makes me nervous. We’re a democracy. We’re not supposed to have kings (even for fun like England).

      I like what he’s saying, but when he’s no longer facing a crowded field and the Dems can focus their fire on him…


      December 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm

      • You have it backwards. EVERYONE is currently focusing fire at him. It’ll be easier in the general when the GOP (mostly) shuts up.


        December 7, 2015 at 8:25 pm

      • @SFG

        To replace American culture and population with foreigners without people’s consent isn’t democracy. Anyway, survival of the nation, culture and race are more important then ‘democracy’ or some other stupidly.

        Maybe in Sweden they voted themselves into oblivion, but not in these United States of America.


        December 7, 2015 at 9:55 pm

      • “We’re a democracy.”

        Democracy is stupid. It’s high time we’re rid of it. The original conception of America was a republic with very constraining rules around who could vote or not (like no stupid women voting). It was much better that way.


        December 7, 2015 at 10:44 pm

      • Democracy sounds like a great idea in theory. But it doesn’t seem to be working very well. In fact, I think I’d rather have communism than this shit. And you guys know how much I hate communism.


        December 7, 2015 at 11:24 pm

      • Good luck with THAT constitutional amendment, peterike.


        December 8, 2015 at 12:00 am

  2. I saw the 6:30 national network news on this. The news people were almost in shock. Martha Raddatz sounded like she was on WWE smack-talking on Trump.


    December 7, 2015 at 6:55 pm

    • Rachel Maddow is saying that we should consider the possibility that Trump is trying to lose on purpose, that he started this as a joke and is spooked by his success.

      What a retard! This is obviously good politics, 50% of Republicans want to ban Islam!

      Trump scares them so much that they don’t know what to do any more. They’re just in fantasy land.


      December 7, 2015 at 9:43 pm

  3. Finally! It’s all I’ve ever dreamed of!

    Mike Street Station

    December 7, 2015 at 6:58 pm

  4. Damn finally a politician with a few grains of sense. Did we let Germans or Japanese immigrate during WWII? I don’t think so. I wish I could vote for him. But I’m Canadian and we now have a prime minister with a room temperature IQ..Justin Trudope.


    December 7, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    • In fact we interned Germans, Italians and Japanese.


      December 7, 2015 at 7:25 pm

      • As every sane country used to do to enemy civilians when they were at war!


        December 8, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    • Nope. Though decreasing German immigration was one of the ways they kept Jews out. (They thought they were commies. Lamentably, some of them were.)


      December 7, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    • During World War II, eight German “New Pilgrims” did immigrate to the US. Six got a warm willkommen — in the electric chair. Look up Operation Pastorius.

      Mark Caplan

      December 7, 2015 at 8:11 pm

  5. I now inform you that the GOP race is over. Trump wins and may even start to hit 50percent in polls.


    December 7, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    • I doubt that. 1/3 of GOP voters actually want open borders and another 1/4 of voters are stupid Christians who will vote based on Christian identity politics. Trump can win this, but it’s going to be tough.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 7, 2015 at 7:37 pm

      • What is more likely? Trump becoming president of the U.S. or Otis writing a post on LOTB without calling Christians stupid?


        December 7, 2015 at 8:29 pm

      • Christians are stupid. They have ruined America with their demand for more blacks and hispanics (i.e. being “pro life”)

        People on the right need to confront the horrendous damage Christians have done to this country.

        Otis the Sweaty

        December 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      • I guess both. I’m amazed how Trump is garnering so much public support just by blab blab bibbab babbib.

        Jeff Bezos of Amazon wants to send him into outer space. Perhaps the Martians or some other alien life form could pickup his nonsense.


        December 7, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      • …or Otis writing a post on LOTB without calling Christians stupid?

        LOL. He’s a Jewish kid who sweats a lot because of stupid Christians and Ron Paul.

        At least he doesn’t hate guidos or proles. As far as I can tell.


        December 7, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      • American Christians are nice. I’ve never met a bad one personally. Even the Puerto Rican guy that showed half of his naked butt, turned out to be a nice church going guy and a good service tech. I learned a lesson in life that you can’t just judge a person by his butt. Behind that disgusting, fuzzy butt can be a good warm heart.


        December 7, 2015 at 9:37 pm

      • Christians are stupid. They have ruined America with their demand for more blacks and hispanics (i.e. being “pro life”)

        Good grief, it is the business elites and the liberals who have ruined America with their calls for more blacks and hispanics, not the Christians. Neither the business elites nor the liberals are Christians, except in a nominal sense, and they are emphatically not pro-life.


        December 8, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    • No way. There’s a lot of Jeb-types who will be horrified by this. I think they might be the Republican silent majority. They’re the ones who come out to vote in the primaries.


      December 7, 2015 at 7:54 pm

  6. Trump’s speech was a joke. He rambled about a whole host of things but never once clarified or explained this Muslim immigration thing. He just read a New York Times article about it while making the occasional interjection that “this is what we have to do” etc.

    It seems to me that if he was truly the alt-right messiah people are painting him as, he should at least be able to defend and explain a controversial policy he supposedly supports. But no, he just goes on and on about how great he is, how popular he is, who he knows, and what he thinks about various stories in the news.

    He is not a leader. I am getting tired of him. He is a goofy reality show buffoon. He believes in nothing but himself and craves nothing but attention and power. He does not care about you or me or anyone in this country.


    December 7, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    • who cares what he cares about? He is destroying the Republican establishment, legitimatizing anti immigrant ideas and causing deep emotional pain to shitlibs.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 7, 2015 at 8:41 pm

      • OK, fine but Petey is right. He’s not a true leader. He can’t speak with a scintilla of logic. He just rambles and says, “I love you!” It’s embarrassing.


        December 7, 2015 at 9:52 pm

      • The usual candidate, a senator, is basically an order taker for the various special interests that fund her, not so much a leader. For example, Obama turned out to be a telegenic teleprompter reading figure head fool (next job: CNN?) who mostly gave the permanent bureaucracy free rein to run things. By contrast, Trump has actually led something, with proven success, for a long time. Yuuuge difference. He will have challenges that a leftist president won’t, of course, but it’s not like he’s a cutout who gets wheeled on stage when it’s election time.


        December 8, 2015 at 4:20 am

      • He’s not a true leader. He can’t speak with a scintilla of logic. He just rambles and says, “I love you!” It’s embarrassing.

        LOL how is that different from Obama? Being a rambling illogical emoter didn’t hold him back politically.

        Not that I regard Obama as a “true leader” — indeed he is the opposite.


        December 8, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    • The alt right is spergery. Regular people, the kind who generate political landslides, are simple populist types who make decisions based on common sense pragmatism. And American populists, the broad middle, are right to center right because America is still a Christian country.

      Andrew E.

      December 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm

      • And Trump is giving them a choice they haven’t had before. Think about it. This is what the choice looks like without Trump:

        Dems: Mass immigration + endless wars + failed attempts at gun control

        GOPs: Mass immigration + endless wars + failed attempts at tax cuts

        Dave Pinsen

        December 7, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    • Meriproles love to smell flatulence. Trump leads the GOP race with his bad breath. And so does Cruz, with a recent polling!


      December 7, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    • He rambled about a whole host of things but never once clarified or explained this Muslim immigration thing.

      What don’t you get?

      Muslim immigration to the US:

      Obama, Bush, Hillary et al = YES.

      Trump= NOOOO!!!

      That’s all the explanation you need.


      December 7, 2015 at 9:24 pm

      • In an ideal world it would be lovely if there was no more Muslim immigration. But this idea is just populist nonsense with no grounding in the real world. Is Congress going to pass this? How will we screen for Muslims? And what about tourists and visiting businesspeople and diplomats and foreign heads of state? And what about the Muslims already here? It’s not a serious proposal because Trump is not a serious person. It’s just a bell he rings to make the proles drool and line up to vote for him. He’s a scam artist and it’s horrifying how easily people are manipulated.


        December 8, 2015 at 12:05 am

      • “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for, yes we can, I stopped the planet from warming and made the oceans recede!” (elected by the wise citizens of blue states)


        December 8, 2015 at 4:24 am

      • Petey: That is pretty much the standard go to line for any demand about immigration restriction. “But how are we going to do this. It’s impossible!”.

        Fuck that. Worrying about “how” is putting the cart before the horse. Lets worry about “what” first, then we’ll get to how.

        As to the point that Trump can’t simply rule by diktat, no shit, Sherlock. He’d have the bully pulpit and would be able to pressure Congress in to acting.

        Otis the Sweaty

        December 8, 2015 at 6:36 am

      • Otis: What you are talking about is the very definition of mindless populism. The idea that a politician can and should promise whatever makes the happy parts of our brain light up, without any plan for brining his ideas to fruition, and we should vote blindly for him and hope everything magically works out.

        Trump is doing tremendous damage to the cause of immigration restriction. He is ruining a movement by tainting it with his personal brand of idiocy.


        December 8, 2015 at 11:06 am

      • Petey’s right, Trump IS a scam artist. But his message is right (about American decline) and he’s largely right on the issues about immigration and trade although I can disagree w/him on some details. So why is no respectable politician picking up on this?? Because it’s bad for international global capitalism, and that’s what we are: the heart of that system. Face it, Muslims are here, forever, and these attacks will go on and on and on. Trump is going to change that.


        December 8, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    • Democracy always contains the potential to be exploited by demagoguery. Up until now demagoguery (narrowly focused on NAMs) has only been used by the Democrats. Republicans have been playing with one hand tied behind their back for a long time now. If the GOP needs its own Huey Long to have a chance of implementing policies that actually benefit the majority so be it.

      Winging It

      December 8, 2015 at 7:55 am

  7. The left can howl. But there’s almost guaranteed to be another big muslim terrorist attack like the last one or the Boston bombers. Then they’ll look like idiots for criticizing him. So this is a great pre-emptive announcement for the next attack coming on the heels of the last attack. The more he keeps these issues in front of the public and tie himself to them with his announcement and media coverage the stronger he is.


    December 7, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    • But there’s almost guaranteed to be another big muslim terrorist attack like the last one or the Boston bombers. Then they’ll look like idiots for criticizing him.

      No. They’ll blame Trump. They’ll say he got them angry.

      Trump will be blamed for any future Muslim terror against the US.



      December 8, 2015 at 10:01 am

    • Drudge is brilliant. He puts a screaming Trump header calling for “complete shutdown” of Muslim immigration underneath the pic of the killers entering the country, her in a burka. You just want to punch her goddamn face, strip that burka off, and shove it up their asses.


      December 8, 2015 at 10:01 am

  8. I don’t like Trump. Like Petey, I think he’s a bit of a clown. But this is a serious response to Islamic Terrorism. Looking at Britain, the second and third generation Muslims are far more radicalized than the first generation was. I can’t see how the USA and Canada will be any different. No one, but Trump, is willing to address this issue. This stand my fall flat, but it certainly makes people who report possible threats (aka, bomb-boy) less open to lawsuits. And if it accomplishes that, then great.

    Half Canadian

    December 7, 2015 at 8:45 pm

  9. Lion, comment on the following?

    “Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete theopolitical system.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.

    Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States — Muslim 1.0%

    Australia — Muslim 1.5%

    Canada — Muslim 1.9%

    China — Muslim 1%-2%

    Italy — Muslim 1.5%

    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%

    Germany — Muslim 3.7%

    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

    Spain — Muslim 4%

    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

    France — Muslim 8%

    Philippines — Muslim 5%

    Sweden — Muslim 5%

    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

    Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is to convert the world & to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris, Sweden –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana — Muslim 10%

    India — Muslim 13.4% (*note: India is currently at approx. 20%)

    Israel — Muslim 16%

    Kenya — Muslim 10%

    Russia — Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%

    Chad — Muslim 53.1%

    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania — Muslim 70%

    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

    Egypt — Muslim 90%

    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

    Iran — Muslim 98%

    Iraq — Muslim 97%

    Jordan — Muslim 92%

    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

    Pakistan — Muslim 97%

    Palestine — Muslim 99%

    Syria — Muslim 90%

    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s (supposed) to be peace because now everybody is a Muslim. We know, however, that this isn’t true, is it.

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

    Somalia — Muslim 100%

    Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that’s not the reality. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons…and they are coming to a neighborhood near you …so keep thinking they are not going to harm you and they “accept” you.


    December 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm

  10. Trump consistently exceeds my expectations. This is exactly what I’d heard by an HVAC supplier today. Vox Populi, Vox Dei!


    December 7, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    • But how will you live without cheap Central Asian laborers?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 8, 2015 at 5:33 pm

      • 1. I dunno, but saving America is more important.

        2. There will always be some illegals. Those will be more desperate and enterprising chaps who will have either scaled the wall or dug under it or swam across the sea. These are the kind of workers I need. These desperados will be good producers and will work for even less.

        3. I will raise prices on chaps like you. Someone has got to pay.

        4. Both my communist upbringing and Jewish education have instilled in me a felling of responsibility for my workers’ well being. I hope to be able to pay well. Communist revolutions happened for a reason, you know. Exploiting workers for financial gain is a sure sign of lack of faith or heresy.


        December 8, 2015 at 10:12 pm

  11. I was reading the headline over at Drudge – my wife walked in, saw it and started cheering. I knew you’d be on top of it – ship ’em all back! Go Trump! Go Lion!

    Black Death

    December 7, 2015 at 9:43 pm

  12. I love you, man…so few people think like you and I….we don’t like immigration and we like taxing the rich…why are there so few americans like us?

    What is your background? I am white (with a little indian), 50s, highly educated, former armed services, white and blue collar background.

    • “.we don’t like immigration and we like taxing the rich…why are there so few americans like us? ”

      There are! There just aren’t a lot of politicians to give them what they want.


      December 7, 2015 at 11:49 pm

  13. I’m sure we can all see the obvious hypocrisy of the Left who say they hate intolerance but love to defend Islam. What do Muslims tolerate? They’ve been killing each other for over a Millennium over which son of Mohammed is the true heir of Islam even though they claim Mohammed is the last prophet and there will never be another one. Lets not forget their complete opposition to any rights for women at all, and their insistence that homosexuals be killed. The only thing they have in common with Leftists is their hatred of the west. Maybe we should use this as an opportunity to exile the Left too?

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 7, 2015 at 11:23 pm

  14. Liberals are of course saying “this is exactly what ISIS wants.” That’s my new least favorite liberal talking point. They were saying it about the movement to block Syrian “refugees,” too. Anything that would actually protect Western nations from Islamic terrorism is said to be “exactly what ISIS wants.”


    December 7, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    • ISIS wants to provoke a war with the U.S. because they believe the Koran prophecizes them victory. But they will find out that superstitious religious nonsense is no match for the power of the United States.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 7, 2015 at 11:55 pm

      • Lol wut? How exactly is the US going to defeat ISIS?

        We can stop or at least minimize ISIS terrorism in the US and other Western nations, but there is no way we can destroy ISIS unless we were willing to go Ghengis Khan on them, which we’re not.

        Otis the Sweaty

        December 8, 2015 at 6:39 am

      • Genghis was not the person who ransacked the Medieval Islamic Empire. It was his grandson Hulagu who turned it into a blood bath, who then became a target of revenge by another Mongol, also a grandson of Genghis, Berke.

        Berke Khan converted to Islam and later sought vengeance to those who wronged his co-religionists.


        December 8, 2015 at 2:10 pm

  15. Is this a dream? Wow, I did not expect something that great from Trump! Muslim immigration not only means more terrorism, it also means low IQ immigration, since muslim countries have a mean IQ in the range of 77 to 84. So this would be a win win situation: you neither get low IQ proles nor terrorists. I wish here in Germany we had someone like Trump (or Orban, for that matter).


    December 8, 2015 at 7:52 am

    • Is the far right in Germany able to capitalize on the refugee crisis?

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 8, 2015 at 9:13 am

    • This does seem like a dream. Before Trump, the very suggestion of banning Muslim immigration as a real political position I would have thought impossible. Who knows, maybe in the post Merkel era Germany can do it too.

      Mike Street Station

      December 8, 2015 at 9:58 am

      • And all he did was issue a press release on one side of a single page, and then keep doubling down. And he holds no position of any kind. Apparently everyone not named Donald Trump is a pussy, because anyone could have done this but no one did. Attention boys and girls, class is in session.

        Leftists should be terrified because until now they have won every argument by shaming their opponents into silence.


        December 8, 2015 at 6:21 pm

      • Actually, scratch that. If I was a leftist (i.e. a womanish person acting up in the absence of strong authority) my inner thought would be, what took you guys so long.


        December 8, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    • Is the far right in Germany able to capitalize on the refugee crisis?

      Recent German polls have Alternative for Germany at 10%; although I fail to see anything remotely “extreme” about their policy platform.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 8, 2015 at 5:30 pm

  16. What about this?

    U.S. Code 1182 – Inadmissible Aliens

    (f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President:

    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.


    December 8, 2015 at 12:46 pm

  17. I think this is a bad move by Trump. Moderates are going to be turned off because they think this is racist. Trump should focus his rhetoric on ending all immigration and because immigration is bad for Americans. I still hope he succeeds.


    December 8, 2015 at 3:06 pm

  18. This might put Trump over the top in Iowa with anti-Muslim Evangelicals. If Lion remembers, Carson’s brief rise to first place in Iowa was preceded by his comments against a Muslim ever becoming president.

    On with the Trump coronation!

    The Undiscovered Jew

    December 8, 2015 at 5:32 pm

  19. We don’t know how much african descent people (most of them are muslim but not all of them) we have in France as it is prohibited to gather ethnic statistics by our constitution. The mere question is not to be asked, so a fortiori, not be answered.

    But there is however an illness, Sickle-cell disease, that only african people (arabic and black) can have.

    So the maternities test only people who declared themselves as from african ancestry. In the caribbean, they test everybody.

    For France continental area, now, 35% of the children born , are tested. 10 years ago, it was half that figure. In brittany it was 3%, it is now 7%. In Paris, it is 68%, it is now People wanted to make the test compulsory for everyone in order to stop those statistics being gathered but the agency of health refused saying the protocol is ok, and that white people, except from specific regions (part of Greece, Sicily etc.) don’t need to be tested.

    So it is imposible to say but nobody can tell if it’s 8% or 24% …. The rector of Paris mosque said they are 7 millions practising muslims in France at least …. (for 65 millions people). We have statistics for incarcerated people but that doesn’t tell anything.

    So nobody has a clue but the people you see in the streets, in the school, everywhere, make you think the highest data may probably be more accurate. Some politicians, even liberals, say those data should be made legal and available ….

    Bruno from Paris

    December 8, 2015 at 5:38 pm

  20. He has drifted slightly in the betting after his remarks, from around 4 to 1 to 5 to 1.


    December 8, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    • Trump is way ahead in the latest polls: CNN/WMUR New Hampshire, PPP North Carolina, Reuters National and Morning Consult National.


      December 8, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    • This whole campaign is so unorthodox I don’t expect the betting markets to be able to accurately predict anything at this point.


      December 9, 2015 at 6:09 am

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