Lion of the Blogosphere

So a woman in a burka walks into a shooting range…

According to the NY Times:

Mr. Bowdich said the couple honed their shooting skills at ranges across the Los Angeles region, including one near where the attack took place here in San Bernardino County.

Perhaps a woman in a burka shooting a gun should warrant a call to the FBI? See something, say something. That’s what they say.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 8, 2015 at 12:00 am

Posted in News

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  1. destructure

    December 8, 2015 at 12:04 am

  2. destructure

    December 8, 2015 at 12:08 am

    • destructure

      December 8, 2015 at 9:14 am

  3. Do we know if she wore any facial covering to the range? That’s a presumption…

    Socially Extinct

    December 8, 2015 at 1:26 am

  4. Now do you genuinely think that islamic terrorism is the most important thing in the universe or are you just eager to exploit the fact that so many other people think that it is?

    Lloyd Llewellyn

    December 8, 2015 at 1:42 am

    • Perhaps I’m misunderstanding your point, but that sounds like a deflection. People often do that to stifle a criticism they don’t like. The simple fact is that Islam is a supremist and totalitarian ideology. That’s indisputable. It’s also indisputable that its adherents want to invade, conquer and exterminate non-muslims. Islamic terrorism may not be the “most important thing in the universe” but it should be damn close to anyone who isn’t muslim. Now here’s a question for you — Why should people who’s “religion” commands them to invade, conquer and exterminate others be allowed to continue breathing?

      destructure

      December 8, 2015 at 9:26 am

      • “Why should people who’s “religion” commands them to invade, conquer and exterminate others be allowed to continue breathing?”

        Because most of them don’t take it seriously, and they can be converted to better religions. But that doesn’t mean we have to let them come to our country.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 8, 2015 at 9:40 am

      • Because most of them don’t take it seriously, and they can be converted to better religions.

        The last 1400 years suggests otherwise.

        destructure

        December 8, 2015 at 12:06 pm

      • most of them don’t take it seriously, and they can be converted to better religions.

        This smacks of the attitude of the liberal elites — “religion is stupid and nobody seriously believes that crap.”

        But what is the actual evidence that Muslims can be converted to other religions? Especially in meaningful numbers?

        If you wanted to convert a billion Muslims in the Third World, good luck with that, you’ll need a lot of boots on the ground, and you’ll have to slaughter millions of them who will actively resist you.

        The fact is that the Muslim inhabitants of the Middle East, Africa, and Asia are overwhelmingly stupid proles. They do take Islam seriously (even more seriously than our stupid proles take Christianity) and you’re not going to convert them. And why even try? Just don’t let them come here and it’s not a problem what they believe.

        Tarl

        December 8, 2015 at 12:43 pm

      • That’s not what the liberal elites believe, you have not carefully read my comment.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 8, 2015 at 3:24 pm

      • Farook is an an example of a trend we see over the next 20 or 30 years where the child of a liberal, fairly non-observant Muslim immigrant becomes radicalized thanks to jihadist social media and American identity politics.

        Hey Lion, I’ll be in NYC most of next week. Any chance you care to meet up with a longtime reader for a coffee or something?

        Ava Lon

        December 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm

      • Farook is an an example of a trend we see over the next 20 or 30 years where the child of a liberal, fairly non-observant Muslim immigrant becomes radicalized thanks to jihadist social media and American identity politics.

        Hey Lion, I’ll be in NYC most of next week. Any chance you care to meet up with a longtime reader for a coffee or something?

        Steve Sailer had a great post where he quoted descriptions of fights between the radical son who wanted to destroy Israel and the moderate father who wanted to just sit back and wait for other people to destroy it.

        “I kept telling him always: stay calm, be patient, in two years Israel will no longer exist,” the elder Farook told the newspaper. “Geopolitics is changing: Russia, China, America too, nobody wants the Jews there.”

        http://www.unz.com/isteve/farook-knows-best/?highlight=moderate+father

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        December 8, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    • Islamic terrorism is a tiny problem in this country. It’s just something that, for some obvious and some not so obvious reasons, people tend to get really irrational about and blow way out of proportion. I don’t think Muslims should be allowed to immigrate to the US but terrorism is pretty far down the list of reasons why.

      Lloyd Llewellyn

      December 8, 2015 at 4:20 pm

  5. I doubt she wore the niqab there. You are supposed to “practice like you play.” If she did not wear Islamic garb to the shooting, I see no reason to think that she would feel religiously obligated to do so at the range.

    KLO

    December 8, 2015 at 8:37 am

  6. mmmm – You either have the 1st and 2nd Amendment universally… or you don’t have it at all.

    Marc KS

    December 8, 2015 at 9:54 am

    • Not true. People don’t have a right to slander or defame others and felons don’t have a right to own firearms.

      destructure

      December 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm

  7. Tarl–

    “But what is the actual evidence that Muslims can be converted to other religions? Especially in meaningful numbers?”

    Doesn’t the fact that Islam decrees the death sentence for apostasy provide evidence that this is the case?

    prolier than thou

    December 8, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    • The Catholic Church successfully converted the native Americans to Catholicism.

      But there is no plan right now to convert the Muslims to a different religion, and the liberals would be outraged if the heard of such a thing and shout stuff about “Hitler.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 8, 2015 at 4:03 pm

      • Perhaps the native Americans were softened up to the conversion process because they were in a position of total cultural defeat to a clearly more powerful and advanced enemy, which made them question the existence of their gods?

        And perhaps this is exactly the reason for the ferocity of the Islamic reaction against the clearly more successful and all-conquering West? Maybe the current violent Islamic reaction is the final card left to play against a West that has dominated them in every way for centuries, and which was causing them to lose face and confidence with their own constituency? Seen from this light the celebrations after September 11th have an almost desperate tinge to them.

        It would be ironic if conservative elements in the Christian West and the Islamic East both saw their counterparts as signalling the death of their civilisations. And in a funny way they might both have a point.

        As an afterthought….perhaps a lot of the stories and events of the Bible is the Jewish people being confronted with more powerful adversaries such as the Romans, Egyptians and Babylonians and having to find rationalisations that explained the same contradiction–‘if God is on our side then who is on their side and how are we losing’?

        prolier than thou

        December 8, 2015 at 4:29 pm

      • But there is no plan right now to convert the Muslims to a different religion, and the liberals would be outraged if the heard of such a thing and shout stuff about “Hitler.”

        Let’s see what more ISIS attacks against the West do to this ludicrous political equation. ISIS is very likely to strike again now that they’re intoxicated with highly publicized success and because they’ve figured out the type of terrorism most appropriate for Muslim cognitive limitations: small groups of armed men (and women!) blowing away crowds of people instead of complex bin Laden-like schemes that are more likely to fail before liftoff.

        I assume you’ll be safely barricaded inside nerd apartment for the New Year Times Square celebrations?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 8, 2015 at 5:39 pm

      • I’m not going anywhere near Times Square. At least not nearer to it than where I live, which is thankfully outside the barricades.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 8, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    • Doesn’t the fact that Islam decrees the death sentence for apostasy provide evidence that this is the case?

      The number of executions for apostasy is trivially small, and therefore the belief that Muslims can be “converted to better religions” is utterly misguided. And of course, as Lion says, right now there is no plan or intention to convert Muslims to anything else.

      Tarl

      December 9, 2015 at 2:56 pm

  8. I notice the msm is more interested in the SB shooter’s mother than they were in the Oregon shooter’s mother, even though she owned one of the guns found at the crime scene. Must be because they’re different religions.

    jef

    December 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm

  9. I’m waiting for Obama to blame this attack on Christmas and use his robopen and sail foam to stop Christmas celebrations on Government property and public places. I’m sure Granny Hillary will back him up on it and then maybe there will be an election next November instead of a Civil War. I imagine a Reaganesque Trump Victory if Obama takes the bait and bans baby Jesus for Islam.
    We can all go to Trump’s Inauguration and sing “Grandma got run over by a reindeer”.

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 8, 2015 at 9:38 pm


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