Lion of the Blogosphere

Poll indicates most people agree with Trump

A reader pointed me to this poll (conducted using an automated response system and by dialing home phones [no mobile phones]) which shows that the majority of Americans (52%) agree with Donald Trump’s call for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on” and that 71% of Republicans agree.

If this is true, instead of being the death knell for Trump’s campaign that the liberal media and their allies in the Republican establishment are praying for, it will actually increase his support.

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Also a new Bloomberg poll (linked to by Drudge) shows the same thing. 65% of likely Republican primary voters support Trump’s temporary ban on Muslims entering the country.

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Also, this question is interesting. “Do you think the peaceful followers of Islam have done enough to denounce the violent followers of Islam? Or should the peaceful followers be doing more?’

85% of all Americans (not just Republicans) say “Should Do More.” And I personally strongly feel this way. It seems to me that Muslims only pay lip service to this concept when a spokesperson (carefully chosen by the mainstream media) is being interviewed by television cameras. Then, when the cameras leave, they go back to business as usual.

This is one of the reasons I am glad that Trump is making this a topic of conversation. I think the opposite of what liberals predict (this creates more “radicalized” Muslims) will happen; non-radicalized Muslims will be shamed into doing more to discourage radicalization.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 9, 2015 at 1:54 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. It’s not only the liberal media that wants Trump gone, but the entire Republican establishment as well. National Review, The Weekly Standard, The American Spectator, Club for Growth, the donor class, and all the entrenched Republican politicians want Trump at room temperature.

    Lewis Medlock

    December 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    • Elites from both parties love obliging immigrants and anyone with a low IQ. They don’t want anyone to challenge their status quo. Hence, the general White demographic is sidelined for people who do not fit the western agenda of supreme civic engagement.

      JS

      December 9, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    • If Trump wins and has success in office (re: wall/deport) he should be on Mt. Rushmore. The man is single-handedly facing down all the forces of hell!

      fakeemail

      December 9, 2015 at 7:25 pm

  2. And that number will probably increase as people get time to adjust to the latest news and more polling like this comes out. I’m sure some people said they disagreed with Trump because of the Overton Window effect and they were scared an immigration moratorium was a minority fringe view.

    Richard

    December 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    • Yeah I bet the MSM wishes Trump would go back to talking about nice safe topics, like deporting all illegals.

      Mike Street Station

      December 9, 2015 at 4:13 pm

  3. Iranians weren’t allowed to come to the US during the Iranian hostage crises.

    Rosenmop

    December 9, 2015 at 2:37 pm

  4. Lion: this link here talks about Trump and the far right in general in regards to online versus phone polling

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/trump-may-have-more-support-than-we-think/419370

    I have been very dismissive of online polls but it is possible that Trump’s support ends up being between online polls and real polls. That would put his real level of support at around 32% nationally.

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 9, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    • I believe the opposite, that online polls can be more accurate than telephone polls, so long as the online polls are correctly weighted (but they could be weighted wrong).

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 9, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    • That’s bad news for Iowa though, isn’t it? If there’s a “shy Tory” effect with Trump then presumably it’ll be a factor in the face-to-face caucuses.

      Richard

      December 9, 2015 at 2:54 pm

  5. Here’s the problem with this poll: Nobody under 40 has a landline anymore. Hell, I’m almost 60 and I don’t have a landline. So any poll conducted by dialing landlines is not going to produce a representative sample of the population. Nielsen quit using telephones to select households for their audience measurements, and changed to a system based on physical addresses, for this exact reason, five years ago!

    So really, all you can say from this poll is that elderly technophobes agree with Trump.

    Gerald

    December 9, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    • It’s surely weighted based on age.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 9, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    • I have done a lot of political calling, and even 8 years ago people were dropping their land lines, or at least never picked up the phone so you had to leave a message. Which suited me just fine. God I hated making those calls.

      Mrs Stitch

      December 9, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    • This is absurd. I’m 37 and I have a landline. You should have a landline. Everyone should have a landline. If you get internet or cable service you can get a landline for very little money. It’s what you want if you have a home emergency and have to call 9-1-1.

      Jonah

      December 9, 2015 at 7:31 pm

      • I have a cable landline. It was very useful when I had a job (good for long conference calls) but not needed now that I’m unemployed.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 9, 2015 at 7:54 pm

      • I had vonage for many years but then noticed that I never used it. I cancelled it and haven’t missed it since.

        Tarl

        December 10, 2015 at 8:39 am

  6. Mr. Lion,

    Perhaps I’m not alone, but I’m tiring of the all-Trump all the time show this place is becoming.
    It’s getting boring.

    I do admire his courage, IDGAF attitude and willingness to slaughter sacred cows…
    More please, hamburgers from sacred cows are delicious.

    Nevertheless he’s an awful blow hard and has dimmed his intelligence and tuned his message to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Whatever the result of the horserace that the US presidential election, given all the checks and balances limiting his power, what’s at stake maybe less than the two years of strife and indecision warrant. Whoever is chosen will have the neither the power nor the authority to make America great again. It’s too far gone.

    But there is something that is in our power… Particularly in your hands Mr. Lion…

    “Let’s make this blog great again!”

    What do you think is unique about your point of view that you could present?
    Perhaps we could crowdsource some inspiration?
    Your fans and readers could share what’s interesting to them.

    If you ask me, you should bring back the more of that great analysis of class and division in America.
    Perhaps present little examples, a case out of current events, a television advertisement, a clip out of a film or tv series. Explain how it depicts class, race and culture and how it’s producers are trying to consciously or subconsciously manipulate us. Television programming is programming for the public,

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    December 9, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    • Personally, I prefer the Trump stuff to Lion’s discussions of music videos.

      Gozo

      December 9, 2015 at 5:17 pm

      • Agreed.

        DdR

        December 10, 2015 at 9:11 am

  7. This is only going to help him. Many more support him than publicly let on. Pundits and professionals won’t admit it at their cocktail parties, but when they get to the deep, dark recesses of the ballot box they will pull the lever for Trump. Trump is channeling into the subconscious mind of every spirited, red blooded American still roaming the continent.

    B.T.D.T.

    December 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm

  8. More pop video reviews, Lion.

    Much better than the endless kabuki theater of US politics.

    Carpenizer

    December 9, 2015 at 6:41 pm

  9. Everyone is Hitler!

    nathanfwyatt

    December 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    • In the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.

      steve@steve.com

      December 9, 2015 at 10:48 pm

      • Good thing that’s more than enough time to conquer France!

        (ba dum bum)

        Tarl

        December 10, 2015 at 8:40 am

  10. Lion, check out this hashtag on Twitter: https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenBordersForIsrael?src=hash

    Identitarian righties are angry with Netanyahu for condemning Trump on Moslem immigration; they are calling him and Israel-supporters in general out for hypocrisy.

    Dave Pinsen

    December 9, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    • Common sense on the part of Netanyahu. He’s doing what’s good for Israel.

      And he’s still meeting with Trump. He had to say what he had to avoid pissing of Obama. I am sure that secretly, he hopes Trump will win.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 9, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    • Given that Israel is something like 15% Muslim, it’s hardly unreasonable for Netanyahu to object to a proposal which would bar 1 in 6 of the citizens he represents from even entering the United States.

      And note that Muslims can and do enter Israel on a regular basis.

      sabril

      December 10, 2015 at 3:21 am

      • But Israel doesn’t let them buy guns.

        Soldiers on leave (a significant number of people) have an assault rifle on loan from the IDF, but no one else is allowed to own a gun. Israel is aware that the Muslims want guns to commit terrorism, so they are tightly restricted.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2015 at 9:29 am

      • Israel’s Arab population has access to plenty of guns, though (illegally). Most of them do not in fact want to commit terrorism. The behavior of Israeli Arabs is a major case of “the dog that didn’t bark” in the history of the Israeli-Arab conflict. A full-scale Arab revolt in the Galilee could be what it takes to make the global community impose a Palestinian state on Israel against its will.

        IHTG

        December 10, 2015 at 10:39 am

      • .”But Israel doesn’t let them buy guns.

        Soldiers on leave (a significant number of people) have an assault rifle on loan from the IDF, but no one else is allowed to own a gun”

        Citizens of Israel who are Muslim are permitted to serve in the IDF. Are you saying that these people are not permitted to take their guns off-base?

        sabril

        December 11, 2015 at 11:06 am

      • As a resident and citizen of the United States, I’m really not an expert on the fine details of Israeli policy.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 11, 2015 at 11:07 am

  11. “GOP establishment is so out of touch, it’s to the left of MSNBC viewers.”

    Rifleman

    December 9, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    • Am I reading that screenshot correctly – that blacks are 96% in agreement with Trump – or is it the other way around?

      gothamette

      December 10, 2015 at 12:17 am

      • Black people are very conservative.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2015 at 12:47 am

      • Blacks are socially conservative and economically liberal. The opposite of myself.

        ScarletNumber

        December 10, 2015 at 12:50 am

      • “Blacks are socially conservative and economically liberal. The opposite of myself.”

        Blacks are socially conservative and look for hand outs. There, I fixed that for you.

        DdR

        December 10, 2015 at 9:13 am

      • Blacks are conservative on most things except for capital punishment and civil rights (for blacks at least).

        ruhkukah

        December 10, 2015 at 11:40 pm

  12. He had to say what he had to avoid pissing of Obama.

    He doesn’t care. Look at the Gaza war. Brutal.

    Rifleman

    December 9, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    • Netanyahu is still meeting with Trump and not blowing him off like liberals want him to.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 9, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    • “He doesn’t care. Look at the Gaza war. Brutal.”

      Perhaps he doesn’t care, but the Gaza war was not brutal. If you want brutal, look at the Russian activities in Chechnya; or the Syrian civil war; or the Lebanese civil war. Gaza only seems brutal because Israel gets a wildly disproportionate amount of attention.

      sabril

      December 10, 2015 at 3:17 am

      • If you want brutal, look at the Russian activities in Chechnya; or the Syrian civil war; or the Lebanese civil war.

        The fact that those situations were far worse doesn’t make the Gaza war not brutal for 1000 or so dead civilians.

        It’s not a death contest. You don’t say the holocaust wasn’t such a loss of life. You want loss of life look at what the Japanese did in China in WWII.

        Gaza only seems brutal because Israel gets a wildly disproportionate amount of attention.

        And American money and weapons and support.

        The point is the Gaza war wouldn’t have happened, at least not to that degree, if Netanyahu “cared”.

        Rifleman

        December 10, 2015 at 9:54 am

      • 200,000 died in Syria, but no one cares that much. Muslims throughout the world care a lot more about what the Jews are doing than what ISIS is doing.

        Israel is behaving very gently compared to how Muslim nations treat rebellions.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2015 at 10:18 am

      • “The fact that those situations were far worse doesn’t make the Gaza war not brutal for 1000 or so dead civilians.”

        By that definition, pretty much every war is “brutal.” And therefore, by your reasoning, every politician who has ever led any country into armed conflict “doesn’t care.” Which may be true in some sense, but you seemed to be making a special point about Netanyahu.

        “It’s not a death contest”

        That wasn’t my point. The Russians in Chechnya were far more indiscriminate and aggressive than the Israelis in Gaza. In fact, I challenge you to identify three wars in which (1) thousands of people died; and (2) one of the parties to the war made as much effort as Israel did to limit collateral harm. If Israel is especially “brutal,” it should be no problem.

        “The point is the Gaza war wouldn’t have happened, at least not to that degree, if Netanyahu ‘cared.”

        So that I can understand your point, please identify 3 political leaders who do “care.”

        sabril

        December 11, 2015 at 11:16 am

      • My point was made in response to this:

        He had to say what he had to avoid pissing of Obama.

        Obama and Kerry HATED what Netanyahu did in Gaza. So did many Obama supporting Jews in the US.

        I brought up Gaza to show that Netanyahu isn’t concerned about Obama’s reactions to much of anything.

        Obama and Kerry thought the Gaza war was a brutal over reaction. Netanyahu didn’t and doesn’t care.

        Anymore than you do.

        Rifleman

        December 11, 2015 at 11:45 am

      • “I brought up Gaza to show that Netanyahu isn’t concerned about Obama’s reactions to much of anything.”

        Assuming that Netanyahu doesn’t care about Obama, the Gaza War is not really evidence of it since the war itself was pretty minimal.

        sabril

        December 12, 2015 at 9:06 am

  13. I’m really amazed at the spectacle of seeing the media agree with Dick Cheney when he says we should let people from countries like Syria and ISIS into America. Maybe he can offer them jobs with Halliburton and then they can make bombs from Oil and gas. I’d just love to see the brain fart that liberals might have if they can’t badmouth Oil and gas because Muslims are making bombs out of it. If someone can talk them into using SUVs too, that would be a sweet Christmas Miracle.

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 9, 2015 at 9:14 pm

  14. You want a mix tape or something?

    Mobutu

    December 9, 2015 at 10:57 pm

  15. What Bibi said was both disgraceful and very in character.

    Bibi is an interesting character in that he manages to stay in power despite always doing the politically wrong thing. The smart thing, and what any other politician would do, is not comment on what Trump said but just quietly “postpone” their meeting. Bibi, being an idiot, did the exact opposite.

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 10, 2015 at 7:21 am

    • The smart thing is not to get involved I the internal affairs of other countries and especially the US.

      Yakov

      December 10, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    • “he smart thing, and what any other politician would do, is not comment on what Trump said but just quietly ‘postpone’ their meeting.”

      I would have to disagree. At this point, Trump has a significant chance of getting elected; therefore Netanyahu might end up having to work with him. The Israeli tradition is to meet with all serious American candidates so there is a lot of potential downside to snubbing Trump.

      And frankly, it would be a good thing if more politicians stood up to Leftist intimidation tactics. If Netanyahu unapologetically meets with Trump, what’s going to happen? Nothing. Besides, the world community hates Netanyahu anyway. He’s not going to get into anyone’s good graces by starting to kowtow to political correctness.

      sabril

      December 11, 2015 at 11:24 am

    • He wouldn’t have to snub Trump, just ask for the meeting to be postponed, which ended up happening anyway. He also could have just said “we don’t comment on America’s internal political matters”. The guy is an idiot and this is the kind of thing he always does.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 11, 2015 at 12:16 pm


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