Lion of the Blogosphere

Trump, Putin and journalists

I admit that I never even heard of Putin killing journalists until after Trump received a glowing endorsement from Putin, then all of a sudden this makes Trump evil because Putin murders journalists. I tried to research this on Google, but found nothing. You would think that if this were really a big issue, there would have been a least one major New York Times story predating Putin’s praise of Trump exposing Putin’s killing of journalists.

This blog post by Anatoly Karlin puts things into better perspective. Our supposed “ally” Recep Erdoğan is the one who has been imprisoning massive numbers of journalists. We really need to kick Turkey out of NATO ASAP. (Turkey was a decent place when the secular military controlled it, but now that they have a democracy of Muslims the country is clearly going to hell.)

So there are allegations that maybe Putin is behind the deaths of one or two journalists, but what about the allegations that the Clintons were behind the death of Vince Foster? And then there is the fact* that Bill Clinton personally raped a woman, which is a pretty serious crime, but no one cares about that.

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*Well it’s an alleged fact, but a pretty compelling one that I think is most likely true.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 21, 2015 at 9:23 am

Posted in International, Politics

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  1. I’d like to see someone propose a new US visa category: the J3 visa (J1 and J2 are already taken).

    The J3 visa will be for foreign born English speakers who wish to pursue a career in journalism. The U.S. government will provide grants or stipends (or both) for these bright young individuals so that they can achieve their dreams of being on the evening news, or writing articles for the Post or the Times. Since a free press is a vital part of our constitution, there are ample arguments for why this would be a great idea. After working in journalism for three years, the journalist would be eligible for a green card (permanent residency).

    How long do you think it would take for the immigration debate to change all of a sudden, if such a scheme were proposed?


    December 21, 2015 at 9:31 am

    • I like your thinking, but I doubt it would make much of a difference. There is already a glut of journalists and elite ones have their jobs as a result of connections and personal relations the newcomers could never hope to compete with.

      It’s the same reason most established university professors welcome a glut of PhDs. In theory, every PhD is a competitor but as a practical matter they are not.


      December 21, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    • Clearly, the J3 visa program serves a vital national interest; reporting is one of those jobs that Americans just won’t do.

      This program should have been started at least a decade ago, the pent-up demand must be considerable. Once the backlog has been cleared, the J3 influx could be lowered to a modest 100,000 per year. Rather than being automatic, any reduction should only come as a response to a petition from the Society Of Professional Journalists, “the nation’s most broad-based journalism organization, dedicated to encouraging the free practice of journalism…” That would make for some amusing reading.


      December 21, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    • The I Visa:

      BTW there’s been a 91% increase in the B1-B2 “temporary” visitor visa. That’s the most common way for a person to enter the US, then become an illegal immigrant.


      December 21, 2015 at 1:47 pm

  2. The list of murderous world leaders who have praised Carter, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Obama is long — but who cares because they are Democrats.


    December 21, 2015 at 9:51 am

  3. Many journalists work for the enemy, provoke violence and systematically engage in false reporting. This whole despicable profession is totally out of control. Many need to be jailed and forbidden from ever publishing again. We need some kind of malpractice laws for them to take the bad ones permanently out of the field. All they do is lie and manipulate from morning till night. They are evil. They desire the news and control the minds.


    December 21, 2015 at 10:15 am

    • In other words…

      “Putin’s killing journalists? Awesome, I knew I liked that guy. Faster, please!”


      December 21, 2015 at 12:35 pm

      • Journalists claiming that Putin kills journalists and as usually without any evidence? This exactly proves my point


        December 21, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    • Sounds like commie talk to me, comrade.


      December 21, 2015 at 4:41 pm

      • Talk to me evidence and body count.


        December 21, 2015 at 6:27 pm

      • @chairman


        December 21, 2015 at 8:12 pm

  4. Trump talks Putin in this excellent video. Demolishes Stephanopoulos, Must watch!


    December 21, 2015 at 10:42 am

    • Very well played by Trump. He essentially said, “George, you’re a reporter speaking on national television and you just accused a foreign leader of killing journalists. Where is the proof?”

      Trump is not afraid of reporters. (Remember how Romney reacted when a debate moderator said that he was wrong about something? He just shut down.)


      December 21, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    • This was great. Steph is a smug bastard. He’s the epitome of the liberal media.


      December 21, 2015 at 7:33 pm

  5. I’m no Putin fan, but the untouchable nature of the Clintons in the media and elsewhere is nothing short of nauseating.

    Two in the Bush

    December 21, 2015 at 10:47 am

    • The Clintons are really not untouchable. The media keeps trying.

      When Bill Clinton was elected president, some wealthy conservatives funded projects to dig up dirt on the Clintons. These projects combed through public records trying to find scandals to tie to the Clintons. They would find journalist and given them packages of documents they had dug up along with and outline of what they thought these documents meant. Most of the time these journalist would go write stories based on the documents that generally followed the interpretation that had been suggested to them.

      The problem was that many times these documents were incomplete. There were other documents the journalist had not been given that contradicted the suggested interpretation. Congress investigated all of these “scandals” but was never able to find enough evidence to prove anything. The best that they could come up with was some suspicious financial transactions, but no proof of any criminal activity by the Clintons.

      Politicians from both parties are offered investment opportunities that ordinary people just don’t get offered. Are these a form of bribery? Of course they are, but the Supreme Court has vastly narrowed the definition of bribery so it is hard to prove. Unless a politician is hiding cash in his freezer or the FBI can get a tape of the politician promising favors in return for some lucrative investment like IPO stock, you don’t really have a case. Most politicians are smart enough to never get caught doing that.

      In this election cycle the NYT ran their famous story about a “criminal referral for Hillary” over classified email. It turned out the referral was not criminal, was not for Hillary, the emails in question were not classified at the time they were sent and they were sent to Hillary, not emails that Hillary had sent. The NYT had to walk the story back and try to explain how they made all those mistakes. The reporters on the story clearly had some sources in federal law enforcement that do not like Hillary. Those sources misled the NYT reporters.

      The MSM has been running with stories highly critical of Hillary for years, but in most cases those stories are based on the opinion or imagination of Clinton haters and the facts just don’t support them. This leaves the impression somehow that the Clintons are untouchable.


      December 21, 2015 at 1:48 pm

  6. When are we getting a force awakens review ?


    December 21, 2015 at 10:47 am

    • Haven’t seen it yet. Maybe I’ll go tomorrow morning for a cheap matinee.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 21, 2015 at 11:17 am

      • You already saw it. In 1977. This is just a remake but with the obligatory chick and a black guy as the heroes instead of outdated white males.


        December 21, 2015 at 12:37 pm

      • I hear that there’s also a Latino guy.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 21, 2015 at 12:40 pm

      • Yeah but I didn’t know that until I looked at his bio on wiki. =)


        December 21, 2015 at 4:04 pm

      • The latino guy is Oscar Isaacs. He’s in an HBO mini-series based on the federal government forcing Yonkers to diversify their housing called “Show Me A Hero.” It’s good.

        He was also good in “Ex Machina,” the best movie I saw last year.


        December 21, 2015 at 1:58 pm

  7. Rubio and Bush are the two most upset about this, and they worship the Saudis.

    The overwhelmingly hostility towards Putin is rooted in the fact that he leads a white Christian nation that is not on board with the homosexual agenda. The elites are absolutely obsessed with this issue, but they feel a little guilty criticizing Muslims or Africans. So they take all their hostility out on Russia.


    December 21, 2015 at 11:10 am

    • dsgnt_plyr

      December 21, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    • Russia is not really a “Christian nation” in any meaningful sense, and has not been one since 1918. A bunch of ex-KGB stooges masquerading as faithful Christians is more like a farce. Tensions between America and Russia started long before the US decided to be the defender of the world’s homosexuals. Seems to me both US defense of gay rights in Russia and Putin’s sudden decison to turn a previously fairly tolerant country into the capital of the homophobes represent a proxy fight about deeper issues.

      Peter Akuleyev

      December 22, 2015 at 5:38 am

      • Agreed, but the recent US obsession w/gay rights is bizarre, and it’s a great issue for someone like Putin to needle us with, no?


        December 22, 2015 at 10:29 am

      • Russia was always on the homophobic side and is perfectly right in protecting it’s population from homosexual propaganda. This had got nothing to do with Obama.


        December 22, 2015 at 11:20 am

  8. Look at this new Jeb! ad. He doesn’t seem to understand that the Republican voter is different from his donors, who I’m sure sit around and talk about how we need to “get tough” with Putin. Trump should bring up Saudi Arabia. Or maybe just ignore Jeb!, who will be going away soon anyway.


    December 21, 2015 at 11:21 am

  9. The Stephanopoulos tried to badger Trump about this in the sunday interview. But Trump fought back. You really should listen to the interview, Lion.


    December 21, 2015 at 11:23 am

  10. In America, they don’t have to murder journalists. The filters in the MSM are quite strong enough, thank you. If we actually had an adversarial press rather than one that is the PR arm of the globalists, then we’d see some dead American journalists too. But our journalists are censored routinely, every day. Stories don’t get published, books don’t get published, false narratives are pushed with twenty consecutive days of front page headlines followed by a “correction” on page B-27 when the narrative explodes.


    December 21, 2015 at 11:25 am

  11. The question not asked is how we’re supposed to know that Putin has been killing journalists. If our country has firm proof that it happened, then the responsible thing to do would be to present it to the United Nations (or some other body) for review and sanctions. If we’re not bothered enough to do that, then why should it have any role to play in our relations with Russia?

    A problem that the media is incapable or unwilling to see is that some people have a vested interest in stoking up tensions between Russia and the United States. During the run-up to the Iraq War we were treated to outlandish stories about Saddam Hussein’s cruelty, like throwing people alive into woodchippers, that never panned out and which were obviously invented by men like Ahmed Chalabi who wanted to gin up a war they hoped to benefit from. For all we know accusations against Putin where supporting proof is lacking may be of the same sort. And even if they’re true, we make deals with all kinds of corrupt regimes for the sake of the greater good. What is the national interest that puts Putin beyond the pale?


    December 21, 2015 at 11:26 am

  12. “Stephanopoulos said, “Here’s what Mitt Romney tweeted, ‘there’s an important distinction, thug Putin kills journalists and opponents our presidents kill terrorists and enemy combatants.””


    Stephanopoulos cleverly quotes Romney so that he doesn’t have to take responsibility for the statement. If Romney really said this, he’s flat-out wrong. First of all, as Trump correctly points out, there is no evidence that Putin ordered journalists or opponents killed. Also, when it comes to killing terrorists and enemy combatants, well, it’s the Russians who are doing this to ISIS right now. At least the Russians seem to have a clear policy in the Middle East, unlike our wimpster-in-chief.

    When it comes to imprisoned journalists, the Committee to Protect Journalists says that Russia has one. China is the world leader with 44, Iran has 30 and Eritrea has 23. Our good friends in Saudi Arabia (you know, the ones who gave all that money to the Clinton Foundation) have 4, and our NATO ally Turkey has 7. But nobody cares about that.

    Black Death

    December 21, 2015 at 11:43 am

    • Saudi Arabia is currently flogging to death a blogger in public as well. It’s a horrible country. We shouldn’t be supporting it.


      December 21, 2015 at 11:55 am

      • Why is it horrible? In other countries, dangerous criminals and white collar crooks are shot dead, instead of being housed for life at the expense of our tax dollars.


        December 21, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    • That one guy in Russia, Sergey Leznik, can’t be compared to all the ones in NATO-ally Turkey and so on. Not only has Turkey killed off a bunch of journalists in recent years whose work was inconvenient to Erdogan, they’ve also imprisoned a big bunch for exposing the Turkey-ISIS links and so on. A bunch of those killed (including foreign journalists) were doing the same thing, and thus had to be stopped according to Erdogan. That’s some heavy stuff and should cause an outrage. But it doesn’t, it hardly makes it into the press.

      The Russian, local Rostov journalist Leznik was essentially baited into committing legitimately jailable offenses after he’d pissed off a big bunch of local county cops with his exposés on their corrupt sideline activities. A pissy local vendetta that is, in an environment that is best likened to all those classic corrupt cop-movies you once liked.

      His imprisonment is a big bad stain on Russia, but it has zilch to do with Putin et al. In fact, should his case make it big I can almost guarantee that he’d be pardoned by executive order from above and that the Rostov corps would feel the heat instead. The issue is that he did committ those crimes that their whole entrapment procedure were designed to produce, and that’s a difficult legal quagmire in the eyes of Russian bureaucrats.

      Found this blog by accident when browsing around, and I have little else to add but I thought I might as well pop in to detail the above. Now I’ll head back to my usual lurking. Thank you.


      December 21, 2015 at 1:19 pm

  13. This highlights the shallowness of most “conservatives” in Washington. Putin is a genuine conservative, favoring low taxes, family values and law and order. He even gave his people the right to bear arms for self defense. What wannabe totalitarian would give his people the right to bear arms?

    Can you imagine US “conservatives” favoring a right to bear arms if it wasn’t already grandfathered in?

    The hatred of the Republican establishment for one of the few genuinely conservative people in world leadership is depressing. They hate Putin even more than Obama does.

    Cuckservatives save their best firepower for shooting at their own side.


    December 21, 2015 at 1:17 pm

  14. If America was a sane country we’d drop out of NATO, then end all migration from North Africa, the Middle East (except Israel, and like 5 of the really rich countries not named Saudi Arabia, who we’d impose sanctions on), Pakistan and Afghanistan.


    December 21, 2015 at 1:53 pm

  15. Yes, after that “Putin kills journalists” bit showed up over at National Review, I looked it up too. I found almost nothing, just like Lion. National Review, and the rest of the Republican establishment, seems to have gone bizarrely nuts with the anti-Trump stuff, much of which seems to be purposeful mis-reporting. It seems to be back-firing.

    December 21, 2015 at 3:48 pm

  16. “We really need to kick Turkey out of NATO ASAP. ”

    Ha, wait til it’s in the EU!


    December 21, 2015 at 4:42 pm

  17. Putin has been back in the Presidency since 2012, and I can’t recall a single call for our Secretary of State or our President to not meet with Putin because “he kills journalists.” This is just an idiotic anti Trump talking point devoid of substance.

    Mike Street Station

    December 21, 2015 at 7:19 pm

  18. “I tried to research [that Putin kills journalists] on Google, but found nothing.”

    You might want to search for ‘Alexander Litvinenko’

    You might also want to search for the attempted murder of ‘Oleg Kashin’

    … which was described in detail in the documentary ‘Putin’s Kiss’'s_Kiss

    Reporters Without Borders keeps a worldwide list of assaults against journalists.


    December 22, 2015 at 11:14 pm

    • Litvinenko was an ex-spy that was damaging Russia with his drivel. So he was made radioactive. That was a cool operation but this has nothing to do with killing journalists.


      December 23, 2015 at 12:46 am

      • Litvinenko was employed as a journalist at the time of his death.


        December 24, 2015 at 3:35 am

      • I didn’t know. Anyway he wasn’t rubbed out for his journalist work, which could have been just a cover. What evidence did he have for his claims that Putin had organized Muslim terrorist bombings in Russian cities? This is yellow journalism. Also, he wasn’t killed in Russia, but in England and Putin was never found responsible for it. So it’s irrelevant. Personally, I think Putin did it, though. It was work of a true master so it had to be him.


        December 24, 2015 at 11:09 am

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