Lion of the Blogosphere

Education and HBD in the NY Times

1. In a high school in Greenville, South Carolina, the percent of students graduating from high school is rising. But it turns out, their performance on standardized tests is simultaneously falling. “Only one in 10 Berea students were ready for college-level work in reading, and about one in 14 were ready for entry-level college math.” The value of a high school diploma as a mechanism for certifying that the holder has some minimum level of ability becomes worthless if everyone is given a high school diploma.

The high school in the article is 38% white, 30% black and 28% Hispanic. The white students probably have parents who are too poor or too unconcerned about their children’s wellbeing to move to a better school district.

2. The West Windsor-Plainsboro Regional School District in New Jersey has the exact opposite problem. Too many Asian students. The students are 65% Asian.

A white parent told the NY Times, “My son was in fourth grade and told me, ‘I’m not going to amount to anything because I have nothing to put on my résumé.’” The district is trying to make the schools less stressful, and the Asian parents are complaining about that, saying that the whites are trying to “hold their children back.”

Asian parents just don’t understand the benefits of self-actualization.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 26, 2015 at EST pm

Posted in Economics

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  1. A high school diploma signifies the ability to stick with something for 13 years.

    ScarletNumber

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

  2. Asians are going to ruin the world.

    Peterike

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

    • You need to change two letters.

      “Asians are going to rule the world.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • These people are miserable grinds. They are mostly memorizing things, and cheating a great deal. America was a pretty nice place without Asians, why is having them an improvement?

        thrasymachus33308

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • @thrasymachus33308

        The same thing was once said about Jews.

        ScarletNumber

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • thrasymachus33308 wrote
        “These people are miserable grinds. They are mostly memorizing things, and cheating a great deal. America was a pretty nice place without Asians, why is having them an improvement?”

        I have similar thoughts. I’m old and remember The West before 3rd world immigration began. It was a nice place. If Asians are so smart than why don’t they stay in Asia and make it a nice place? Why do they move to white countries?

        Rosenmops

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • Actually Japan is a nice place and not very many Japanese want to move here.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • “Actually Japan is a nice place and not very many Japanese want to move here.”

        Yes, Japan was very peaceful and prosperous when I visited it circa 5 years ago. Several advantages of north east asians come to mind:

        a) low birth rate, unlike blacks or especially muslims (the latter breed like rabbits here in Germany)
        b) lower aggressiveness than blacks and especially muslims (the MAOA-2R [“warrior gene”] allele has an occurrence of about 15% in the arab population, whereas it only occurs to about .1 to .5% in Europeans).
        c) usually smart. They have a higher mean IQ than blacks or muslims, both being pretty dumb. Technical ability of muslims is quite low, unlike that of the average german, for example; north east asians have demonstrated that they, too, are able to invent stuff. I’ve got some Samsung screens and a phone, switches and routers from TP-Link (the latter running OpenWrt), so it’s OK. Muslim engineers or scientists in Germany are very rare (if at all), they won’t make it.

        However, at the same time I want to retain my own cultural and genetic heritage. Germany has a very high culture, with great art, philosophy, literature and science having been produced over the last few hundred years. We shouldn’t throw that away because of lesser folks overrunning us (like the muslims in Germany). The Japanese even had readable authors like Akutagawa, Osamu Dazai or Natsume Soseki, and they have Schopenhauer and Heidegger societies. The complete opposite of muslims, who despise books and learning and greatness in general.

        All in all it can be said that blacks and muslims are the worst immigrants a first world nation can have.

        Friedrich

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • Glad to see Thrasymachus make his Asian comments again!

        I wholeheartedly believe our status quo love Asians like they do with NAMs, but for different reasons. Asians are obliging, superficial materialists, and are big supporters of big branding coming from our capitalists.

        In another, yet similar environment, college presidents at the more prestigious universities have become wealthier, because of the high enrollment of Asians at our higher learning institutions.

        JS

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • Re: Asians being miserable grinds

        It appears that East Asians are happy in their current predicament. They have no qualms working under a White supervisor, as low level employee.

        Many media companies employed East Asians as back-end staff, supporting self-actualizing Whites at the front end.

        JS

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • East Asians being smarter than the average non-Asian is a myth. Meriprolestan and the West in general, do not need these people at any facet of life, which also applies to NAMs and Muslims. One could make a case that Muslims are more worthy as immigrants, given their historical intimacy with the West. Their intellectuals have provided a momentum for the European Renaissance, and their warriors have fought us in a battle for religious supremacy. East Asians are neither fighting or enlightening us.

        JS

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • Not a myth. It’s widely agreed that the average person in Japan and Korea is smarter than the average person in the United States.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • * nor

        JS

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

    • The same thing was once said about Jews.

      Because Jews have a higher verbal ability and appear to be more extroverted, they have dominated in fields such as Law, Academia and show business (which includes politics), not afforded to East Asians, and it appears this will remain in effect for a long time.

      JS

      December 27, 2015 at EST am

    • “Actually Japan is a nice place and not very many Japanese want to move here.”

      Japan has a population of about 120 million out of well over a billion people in Asia. (A huge amount depends on how you define “Asia”, but the point stands.) For the most part, it’s best to take the attitude that when you get, say, a billion Chinese, you get China and not even the Chinese want to live there.

      Jesse

      December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • Nevertheless, Japan is a nice place and the Japanese people are nice, and it’s wrong to group then with less desirable Asians.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • “Nevertheless, Japan is a nice place and the Japanese people are nice, and it’s wrong to group then with less desirable Asians.”

        Serious, possibly pedantic, question: How are we defining “Asian” here? You’ve already hinted at gradations and it’s never made much sense to me to put, say, a Tibetan, a Pashtun, some South Korean, a Dalit etc., in the same category.

        (This, incidentally, is the reason that the loss of “Oriental” from totally polite conversation makes me genuinely angry. It wasn’t a perfect way of differentiating people but it was better than the current crop of euphemisms, goddammit.)

        Jesse

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

  3. “A white parent told the NY Times, “My son was in fourth grade and told me, ‘I’m not going to amount to anything because I have nothing to put on my résumé.’”

    Perfidious Mandarins!
    Lol the middle school bullying is résumé based. Hilarious.

    jjbees

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

  4. Asians don’t understand parenting has no impact on life outcomes.

    ruhkukah

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

    • No impact on adult IQ. I’m sure it impacts other outcomes, such as what college you can get into and how hard you will work to get through it.

      jasonbayz

      December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • Parenting has no effect on IQ — but parenting is more important than IQ in determining life outcomes.

        chairman

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

  5. I agree with the Asian parent. If all I wanted was a middle class life, we all could’ve just stayed home. America is something more. America signifies opportunity to be richer than what you could achieve in ur home country.

    I am not against self actualization at all. But it’s not for everyone. If all some kid wants to do is join the middle class in USA or something better why dumb down his education and hold him back?

    Wt

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

    • America doesn’t exist to make the dreams of Asians come true.

      Andrew E.

      December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • That’s true but at least the Asians arriving in USA don’t cause any issues like hispanics and resident blacks. You won’t see the Asians out on streets like BLM movement losers or Hispanic protesters/vandals. Most Asians I know are working hard, raising families.

        Asians are not in the streets demanding handouts like the NAMs.

        Wt

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • They bring their own brand of problems. The Asian invasion is proceeding apace alongside the Hispanic version.

        Andrew E.

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • Asians abuse the welfare state just as well as other groups. Though admittedly they do it in a smart way to build up damily wealth (not squander on drugs). Asians are also big academic cheaters as documented by Education Realist.

        Jimi

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • Jimi. You mean to say whites don’t cheat?? You guys are hilarious.

        Wt

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • Please explain how Asians abuse welfare state in general and not some isolated case u saw.

        Wt

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • “Asians are not in the streets demanding handouts like the NAMs”

        They’re also not your compatriots. I am so utterly sick of all the people, of all political persuasions, who decide they don’t like their compatriots and must replace them. Aside from the moral issues, you do understand that you’re not doing a population swap, right? You’re just wilfully adding problems to problems.

        Jesse

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

    • People of all races cheat in academics. But I am talking about tendencies and proportionality. Asians cheat much more on exams than whites, blacks, or latinos, disproportionately more. Google “Asian cheater stereotype” for more information. This is not to say Asians score better only due to cheating. They tend to be smarter, study harder, and cheat harder.

      I grew up in NYC surrounded by all sorts of people and Asian abuse of welfare is well known. Asians are known to run cash businesses and don’t show income. They then use low income to qualify for low-income housing, food stamps, EITC, etc. Grandparents who have never given a dime to the US govt are brought over from China and instantly qualify for food stamps, medicare, and social security. Anchor babies are babies born in the US for the sole benefit of collecting citizen benefits w/o having to bear citizen duties.

      I don’t think Asians are the worst people ever. They make better immigrants than most. But there is a myth of Asians being model minorities that don’t burden the US . This is not true.

      Jimi

      December 28, 2015 at EST am

  6. LoTB,
    What do the trends have in store for us? Will Whites or Asians win the battle of the ice people? I think with the trend towards automation and towards more outside the box thinking, I think whites and their self actualization style parenting (at least the non-retarded stuff) will have whites win out. What say you?

    JerseyGuy

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

    • Asians in the U.S. will lose out, companies will outsource STEM jobs to cheaper Asians in India and China.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • The Jews will win. Asians will grind their way to doing fine. The whites may self destroy, otherwise they should do better then Asians. The Jews will do the best in this mess. However, if Trump wins and does his thing for 8 years it’s gonna be Jews, whites and Asians. Trump is gonna breath new life into white America, or at least this is what I think and this is why I vote for him.

        Yakov

        December 26, 2015 at EST pm

      • @ Yakov –

        I’m not so optimistic that the Jews will win. A Trump victory could be a prelude to a further shift (after him) towards far-right nationalism that is hostile to Jews. Alternatively, a Hilary victory would speed up the third worldization of the United States. A U.S. filled with third worlders, many of them Muslims, could be very hostile to Jews. Of these two scenarios, I prefer the first in that at least some aspects of traditional American life would be preserved, just not for us. Seems like a good idea to keep the passport up to date and a packed bag ready in the closet.

        nebbish

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • “towards far-right nationalism that is hostile to Jews”

        Not going to happen in the US. Jews are basically invisible to non-Jewish Americans outside of NYC and places like that. The few scattered Jews blend in and attract no notice.

        T

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • Jews are happy to know that their tribe dominate NYC and LA, two very important titan cities of specific industries of status: Wall St and Hollywood. No one cares about the south and flyover prole country in the grander scheme of things, where gentile proles call home.

        East Asians have no place of their own, not even the Bay of Pigs in Silicon Valley, where Whites dominate the tech industry. Asians generally do not boss Whites in their cubicles.

        JS

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • American nationalism is not hostile to Jews and never has been. Open borders will not only bring in more people hostile to Jews, but will also dilute Jewish political influence. If you vote on the basis of what’s good for the Jews, better vote Trump.

        As T said, most Americans regard Jews as regular white folks, and can’t even tell they’re Jewish unless the Jews in question are of the whiny strident NY / NJ kind.

        Tarl

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • @ T –

        I don’t buy it. I grew up in flyover country, and my family and the few other Jewish families who lived near us weren’t invisible. The “town gentry” were mostly very nice to us, but it was hit or miss among other strata of the population, Just about everyone in town went to church on Sundays (and Wednesdays), and everyone noticed that we didn’t This situation pertained in pre-Hitler Germany and Austria also. There were prominent politically liberal Jews in the large cities who aroused the ire of the rightwing nationalists, but there were also a lot of ordinary Jews living in small towns in places like Bavaria and Hesse. Most were outwardly assimilated and were patriotic, even nationalist. But of course we know that their neighbors turned on them in the end.

        nebbish

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

  7. The high school in the article is 38% white, 30% black and 28% Hispanic. The white students probably have parents who are too poor or too unconcerned about their children’s wellbeing to move to a better school district.

    In the South poor whites are almost never urban, especially in a city the size of Greenville.

    Camlost

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

  8. College admissions should be 100% based on IQ tests and jobs should make explicit IQ testing a major factor in their hiring policies. It would end so, so much inefficiency.

    chairman

    December 26, 2015 at EST pm

    • I’ve worked in two different software companies that use pretty stringent aptitude assessments (rough proxies for IQ tests) and they don’t solve all problems. They really need to be paired with personality assessments as well to be optimally effective.

      Camlost

      December 27, 2015 at EST am

      • “They really need to be paired with personality assessments as well to be optimally effective.”

        well said.

        i am reading the book quiet, she makes some good points.

        rivelino

        December 27, 2015 at EST am

    • Not that many jobs are best done with the highest IQ guy. While there’s obviously a floor, a guy with a 140 IQ may very well be a worse salesman than a guy with a 110 IQ. Besides sales, most blue collar jobs, administrative jobs, etc, intelligence doesn’t matter much after a certain point.

      GMR

      December 27, 2015 at EST am

  9. I have been a daily visitor here for more than a year as I consider this the best blog. There is plenty of talk here about Asians,high/low IQ, having few children, etc., but I haven’t read anything about demographics and the world wide plunge in TFR. Japan is dying and their decades-long economic problems are in part due to that. Singapore is in even worse shape. All European countries are in the same path to national suicide and importing low IQ animists and religious fanatics won’t help. Besides UN whisful thinking, it appears the TFR will not recover but will get worse still. There is also a diminishing pool of immigrants because the source countries are starting to have the same problem. What do the experts here think about what people like Phillip Longman, Eric Kauffman and David Goldman have written about this?

    vdorta

    December 27, 2015 at EST am

    • We don’t need to have big populations to lead happy lives or for countries to have powerful economies.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 27, 2015 at EST pm

    • Smaller populations are much superior to large populations. However, the elites don’t want dropping populations for various reasons including falling asset prices and crack-ups in national ponzi schemes (social security, etc).

      onetwothree

      December 27, 2015 at EST pm

  10. Meriprolestan is hardly a nation conducive to self actualizing tendencies. It neither has any culture like that of the old world nor its socialism that fosters it.

    Important observation: East Asians do not immigrate in large numbers in 1st world Western domains where self actualization is more important than money.

    Rosenmops: Take note of your Canuckistan. East Asians are hardly a significant demographic in French Quebec where the salaries are lower and French bourgeois culture is more important than capitalism. They flood the provinces of the Anglo-Prole domains of Ontario and British Columbia en masse, because English speaking regions are where the money is.

    JS

    December 27, 2015 at EST pm

    • Which means that the self actualization movements work quite well at maintaining white culture.

      Jesse

      December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • Correct, and strictly capitalistic nations like Prolemerica do not (and just about every country of the Anglo-Prole-Sphere)!

        JS

        December 27, 2015 at EST pm

    • NAMS call for whitie’s head when things go wrong, demand everything under the sun. Asians are content working under whitey for what we consider peanuts. They don’t organize stupid BLM or anti Wallstreet movements.

      Now u tell me what is good for the whitey ?

      Wt

      December 27, 2015 at EST pm

      • “Asians are content working under whitey for what we consider peanuts…Now u tell me what is good for the whitey ?”

        Uh-huh. And that takes a job, or at least depresses wages, for whitey. You seem to identify with white in power but since you can’t even spell “you”, that’s probably more a result of successful divide and conquer campaigns.

        Jesse

        December 28, 2015 at EST am

  11. there seems to be a lot of anti-asian stuff floating around here. Hate to break the bubble for you guys, but if you look at the ivy;s and all the top schools, its like 20-25% asian. These guys might be employees for the first 10 or 15 years, but then the cream of the crop will shoot through like for every other group. So you will most likely than not be working under an asian guy/gal. Don’t kid yourself and pretend otherwise. The writing is on the wall.

    unam

    December 28, 2015 at EST pm

  12. Even though both Steve Sailer and Philip Greenspun have commented on the same articles, let it be known that you were first.

    ScarletNumber

    December 28, 2015 at EST pm


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