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The real truth about “schlonged”

Thanks to Jason Malloy (who hasn’t commented here in a long time, welcome back!) I read this article in Forward explaining that “schlonged” was a commonly used word in Queens at the time when Trump grew up. The writer of the article reports:

Anyone who grew up “in a certain era (say 1945 to 1965) and in a certain region (Queens and adjoining Long Island)” recalls “schlonged” as “a commonly used phrased, most often used in a sports context, which meant getting clobbered or beaten.”

Moreover, “at least from the youthful memories of our witnesses,” the word “could be used without the users having a strong conscious sense of any sexual meaning behind it.”

. . .

I should note, by the way, that kids I knew from the Bronx used “schlonged” the same way we did. Mostly when talking about what their Yankees did to our Mets. That’s how we talked. Even the goyish kids.

Just as I always suspected, Trump was using a word that was part of his vocabulary based on growing up in Queens without thinking much about it.

Incidentally, Neal Conan, the guy who used the word “schlonged” at NPR (and wrote an apology, what a liberal scumbag), was born in 1949 and is thus a similar age to Trump (born only three years after Trump) and according to this biography also grew up in New York City (although he was born in Lebanon).

So we see that the media has used this as just another excuse to attack Trump for innocently using a word that was commonly innocently used in New York City when Trump was a kid.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 26, 2015 at 6:02 pm

Posted in New York City, Politics

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  1. That reminds me of the word “sucks.” Very few people who say that someone or something “sucks” mean that the person or thing engages in oral sex.


    December 26, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    • Exactly! I was even thinking about using that example before you brought it up.

      In fact, I remember using that word a long time ago (probably when it was less mainstream than it is today) and someone older than me said the word has obscene sexual connotations and I was clueless.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 26, 2015 at 6:57 pm

      • I used “suck” today around an older family member and they looked at me funny😐


        December 26, 2015 at 7:06 pm

      • Another example is saying something is “screwed” or “screwed up”. Most people have no idea it’s vulgar.


        December 26, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    • I can’t stand it, but I’ve heard hassidic rabbies use it out of sheer ignorance, educated rabbies never do. My kids use it when I’m not around, but then many common Russian expressions, if you look into their etymology, have sexual origins and everyone uses them. Some are actually very disgusting, but practically nobody understands their original meaning, only lovers of the Russian language like me do and suffer for it.


      December 26, 2015 at 8:19 pm

      • If you have ever seen the “Dictionary of Russian Obscenities”, my oh my the Russkis have a lot of cusswords. Makes English, with its “seven dirty words”, seem pretty lame to say the least.


        December 27, 2015 at 12:15 pm

  2. “So we see that the media has used this as just another excuse to attack Trump for innocently using a word that was commonly innocently used in New York City when Trump was a kid.”

    Yeah but Trump appears immune to media attacks. The moment Trump has a tearful apology, it’s over for him.

    But I think he knows that.

    Mike Street Station

    December 26, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    • The moment Trump has a tearful apology, it’s over for him.

      Trump claims he hasn’t cried since he was a baby. He also sleeps merely 4 hours a day. Doesn’t exercise, is overweight but in great health.

      All he has to do now is beat the Old Sissies left among the Republicans and then clobber/schlong the Old Witch.

      But….people still have to come out and vote! Can’t just cheer him on!


      December 26, 2015 at 10:54 pm

  3. Hmm. Really? Donald Trump is no choir boy. He knows exactly what he is saying. He says nonsense like this all the time. A large number of sports references include sexual innuendo. In private, people say all sorts of derogatory things about “the other team,” but in public or in mixed company most of us recognize it is not acceptable to talk sports using terms for either male or female genitalia. At some point we should either acknowledge that all of Trump’s innocent flubs might not be so innocent, or at very least acknowledge that anyone who makes so very many verbal mistakes may not make the best representative of our country.


    December 26, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    • The country survived Lyndon B Johnson (although he did get us into a war that killed more than 50,000 Americans). However you seldom see Trump compared to LBJ, you see him compared to Hitler.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 26, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      • Sure. We survived Bush too. Should that be the goal we work to achieve? Electing a president we can survive? Can I ask what Trump is doing that even slightly reminds you of LBJ? I am not seeing the comparison.


        December 26, 2015 at 7:08 pm

      • Dubya Bush was the Republican LBJ.


        December 27, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    • Everyone should listen to the Earl Weaver interview where he says, “thank god we’ve got Timmy Stoddard sticking the bats up their asses.”

      Retro Simba

      December 26, 2015 at 8:36 pm

      • Respectfully, Earl Weaver was never running for president, and it is well known that he had the capacity to be incredibly vulgar. The quote you’re referring to is tame compared to a lot of the Earl Weaver quotes out there.


        December 26, 2015 at 9:07 pm

      • ScarletNumber

        December 26, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    • Bambi makes tons of verbal mistakes. He just gets a pass on them. And he has been a disaster for the country. I’ll take Trump over anyone else in the race.


      December 27, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      • I assume Bambi is Obama. I agree he has been horrible. I never voted for him.

        In my opinion, Trump’s comments moved out of the realm of “mistakes” a long time ago. Every week he says something offensive. When one makes mistakes every time he speaks, it is only fair to assume that those “mistakes” are intentional. He is either careless, cocky, or stupid.


        December 27, 2015 at 5:38 pm

      • They are “mistakes” only with respect to how the MSM expects Trump to behave. It would be normal conversation if some people were having a conversation in a bar.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 27, 2015 at 7:26 pm

      • Seems to be working for him…


        December 27, 2015 at 10:08 pm

  4. What Trump is doing is breathtaking. The mainstream keeps trying to kill him for trivia. And he keeps on going. The sobs of George Will et al bring me joy.


    December 26, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    • Trump will be the greatest leader of the century. He deserves a Nobel prize for peace because he is going to prevent race wars.


      December 26, 2015 at 9:20 pm

  5. I think we’re beginning to see Hillary’s campaign strategy. SEXISM. Have to hand it to the left, they’re consistent. After overdrawing the Race Card by using it every time that Goofball Obama screwed up, now they’re gonna cry SEXIST every time Hillary gets in trouble, which is about every day now already. Feminism might finally blow up when everything becomes sexist.

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 26, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    • Yesterday it struck me, the general election is already on. Trump and Hillary are looking past their primary rivals already…that’s really kind of awesome.

      Mrs Stitch

      December 26, 2015 at 9:24 pm

      • I think the primaries ended with the Paris attacks and the coffin got nailed with San Bernardino.

        Every major Democratic politician and media personality said the West needed to accept every Syrian refugee, without any kind of limit or condition. In comparison to that, anything Trump says in public or private is sane and sober.

        And once the right congregated around Trump, the left panicked and got around Hillary. I don’t think Bernie Sanders will win a single primary or caucus. I think Ted Cruz could win Iowa, but it looks Trump is still pulling ahead, and Ted Cruz is essentially the back-up Trump or the replacement Trump, not the anti-Trump.


        December 26, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    • Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Hilary’s team want it to be about a War on Women and women’s FEEEELLLINGGGSSS!

      Trump is hurting the FEEELLLINGS of mexicans, muslims and women.

      Hilary cares!


      December 26, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    • a better strategy would be “proles like trump, so if you vote trump, you’re prole”. same reason gays got accepted so quickly, no one wanted to be known as the hick who voted against them.


      December 27, 2015 at 1:51 am

  6. I’m not sure if you did this on purpose, but “scumbag” has a sexual meaning as well.


    December 26, 2015 at 10:36 pm

  7. Can’t wait to see Trump schlong Hillary good and hard in the general election.


    December 26, 2015 at 11:03 pm

  8. Another expression people don’t realize is vulgar is “shore it up.” It derives from WWII when US soldiers would take shore leave in the European theater and perhaps visit a brothel, They would “shore” it up, as they say.


    December 26, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    • T

      December 27, 2015 at 2:23 am

    • I don’t see the connection.To shore something up means to prop it up or support it from below. Not sure how that derives from sailors taking shore leave.

      ice hole

      December 27, 2015 at 4:59 am

      • Suck no longer means to give head. Meanings can change


        December 27, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    • What’s your source? What I’ve found is this:
      ‘The verb shore derives from a noun that referred to a piece of timber or iron that was set against a building or a ship to prevent it from falling while it was being worked on. In modern usage, anything can be used to shore something up. One might shore up a wall by packing earth along the bottom.’

      Oxford dictionary dates it’s known use to 14th century.


      December 27, 2015 at 7:46 am

      • For the love of Yahweh, did you get that pistol yet? Hannukah/Channuka/Jeweek has come and gone and we’ve already begun Kwanzaa!


        December 27, 2015 at 11:33 am

  9. I’m not sure why Bernie Sanders is in this race. He’s spent his whole career saying he’s a socialist and not a Democrat. He’s always been for full bore Soviet Socialism. Considering Venezuela and Hugo Chavez’s Great Revolution blew up and reduced the whole country to poverty and bankrupted Citgo, I have to wonder what this Sanders dude is going to use to entice voters to go down that cliff. Didn’t Argentina’s Socialist Barbie just get evicted from the Presidential Palace? She didn’t turn out as popular as Evita Peron for sure. Brazil just kicked their commies to the curb. Is Bernie just in this to draw the fire from those who want to call Hillary a socialist?

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 27, 2015 at 8:14 am

    • “He’s always been for full bore Soviet Socialism.”

      He’s always been for Scandinavian socialism.


      December 27, 2015 at 11:41 am

  10. A liberal acquaintance said the offense was not “schlonged” per se but that the black African Obama schlonged the defenseless blonde gal Hillary, which conjures up scenes from “Birth of a Nation” or contemporary images of Zulus raping and savagely murdering young white girls and elderly women in isolated farmhouses in South Africa.

    Let’s face it. The media are out to hose The Donald any chance they get.

    Mark Caplan

    December 27, 2015 at 9:00 am

    • I’m trying to imagine Bambi as the sexually dominating, sexually threatening, enormously endowed black man of such nightmare scenes, and I’m not getting any pictures.


      December 27, 2015 at 12:22 pm

  11. As a Jewish east coast (but not New York) raised late boomer I certainly knew the noun “schlong” but Trump’s use was the first time I’ve heard it used as a verb.

    Ripple Earthdevil

    December 27, 2015 at 12:15 pm

  12. Words change meanings. Right now, schlong refers more strongly to the male genitals than to beating someone in a game or whatnot.

    He misspoke. No biggie. No need for apologies. But let’s not try to defend the indefensible. If a POTUS wants to use salty language on the job, I’d prefer it to be a conscious choice – as a means to an end – than because his vocabulary apparently fossilized immediately after WW2.


    December 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm

  13. Leon —

    This is off-topic, but I think you’ll like this video. It’s by a woman who writes a column for AEI called the Factual Feminist. She starts out talking about a new report from the World Economic Forum ranking gender equality around the world. She explains why the most developed countries are ranked lower than some 3rd world countries. She mentions studies on self-actualization and that, when given other options, women don’t choose STEM. I think you’ll enjoy it.


    December 27, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    • Christina Hoff Sommers is great, but calling herself a feminist strains credulity. It’s so at odds with what feminists appear to be about these days that it’s very misleading. She’s simply a mainstream conservative, which is yesterday’s liberal. Almost literally yesterday, what with the speed at which social justice gospel becomes solidified as taken-for-granted centrism these days.


      December 27, 2015 at 4:46 pm

      • She doesn’t strike me as a typical feminist either. Not sure if she really considers herself a feminist or just chose the title because she uses facts to analyze and critique feminist issues. I’m reminded of Camille Paglia who; while being a pioneer of early feminism, has been both very critical of and heavily criticized by modern feminists. Some have even described her as an “anti-feminist feminist”. From what little I’ve seen, I kind of like both of them.


        December 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    • When were women (I mean Meriprole women) ever into STEM?


      December 28, 2015 at 2:22 pm

  14. If i were Donald Trump, i would spend 100% of my time in Iowa and New Hampshire. It would be better for him having 20% national approval rate than 38% and being the leader there. If he comes third, people would think it was all of an internet meme, and he’ll have a terrible and slow way down ejection, so painfull he won’t ever continue the way to the end … It’s a pitty.

    Bruno from Paris

    December 28, 2015 at 5:16 am

  15. Hillary chose to be offended because being cast as a victim of sexism is integral to her election strategy.

    Prof. Woland

    December 29, 2015 at 3:00 am

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