Lion of the Blogosphere

Second tier candidates are helping Trump

As the calendar draws closer to the Iowa and New Hampshire contests, the second tier of GOP candidates – along with the super PACs supporting them – are unloading on each other in a blitz of ads, videos, tweets, stump speeches and interviews. [Fox News ]

Ha ha. The second-tier candidates still believe that Trump will magically disappear and then there will be a “real” race between the establishment candidates. Which is why ¡Jeb! is attacking Rubio and Christie and vice versa. Meanwhile they are helping Trump.

How can Trump lose when he’s at 39% and the highest-polling establishment candidate, Rubio, is only at 12%? (Reuters tracking poll.) This isn’t months before the people start voting. It’s only one month until the Iowa caucus. Social proof will quickly bring Trump’s support over 50% after he wins a few primaries and then he will be the obvious winner a lot sooner than any of those worthless Republican strategists think. Karl Rove didn’t even graduate from college; no wonder why the Republicans have been so screwed up.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 30, 2015 at 2:40 PM

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  1. Why are the comments on this blog so consistently entertaining? Lion must be doing good editing.


    December 30, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    • If Trump is as smart as I think, he will surround himself with people loyal only to him. VP will be a surprise.


      December 30, 2015 at 3:41 PM

      • Perhaps he can choose Ivanka as his running mate. Political incest!
        (I repeat: I still do not think he will be the nominee.)


        January 1, 2016 at 12:53 AM

    • If I was Trump I would think about Ann Coulter as VP pick.
      She is very articulate and would never embarass him in interviews, and media making fun of her somewhat long face would just make them look petty and sexist.
      She also has a good understanding of the American question.


      December 30, 2015 at 3:58 PM

      • Ann Coulter wouldn’t bring any votes. Anyone with a positive view of her is already, irrevocably dedicated to the anti-Hilary cause.


        December 30, 2015 at 5:12 PM

      • “her somewhat long face”

        Eh, maybe her superb personality shapes my opinion, but I think of Ann Coulter as proof that women can remain attractive past the age of 25, or perhaps she’s the exception that proves the rule . . .


        December 30, 2015 at 5:26 PM

      • She can’t be a VP, she isn’t married.


        December 30, 2015 at 5:28 PM

      • Women can definitely be attractive past the age of 60. Yes, it’s the personality and the intellect, obviously.


        December 30, 2015 at 6:07 PM

      • If I had to make a bet I’d say that Trump will pick some smoking hot, kickass female corporate executive that most people haven’t heard of yet. She will be very competent but more likeable than a Carly Fiorina.


        December 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM

      • Trump has already said he’d like an elected official as VP. He should pick Rand Paul. Pros of Paul:

        1) Rural

        2) Not a businessman (Physician)

        3) Shares Trump’s non-interventionist foreign policy

        4) On the same page currently re immigration

        5) Good in debates

        6) Will appeal to libertarian Republicans.

        7) May have crossover appeal to SWPLs

        Dave Pinsen

        December 30, 2015 at 7:55 PM

      • Trump has already said he’d like an elected official as VP. He should pick Rand Paul. Pros of Paul:

        Paul’s candidacy sucked. Çruz is most probable, Sessions would be the ideal but I don’t know what Trump’s opinion of Sessions is.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 30, 2015 at 10:09 PM

      • Sessions would be the ideal but I don’t know what Trump’s opinion of Sessions is.

        Terrible pick. Why take Sessions out of a power position and move him into a dead spot?

        Not Romney!!! Romney is death. He’s the opposite of Trump in every way. A beta, establishment robot who keeps getting mentioned because of his physical appearance.


        December 31, 2015 at 3:37 PM

  2. Why don’t you get a job with Trump? He’s a conservative populist. You’re a conservative populist. There’s a shortage of conservative populists in NY.


    December 30, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    • But who’s the VP going to be for Trump.

      I’m pumped up about his candidacy for now, but if he does something dumb (like choose Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin) I will feel quite deflated.


      December 30, 2015 at 3:00 PM

      • Cruz and Giuliani are the only two men who (1) have experience running for national office; and (2) haven’t burned bridges with Trump. I also think they both want the job. Especially Cruz wants it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM

      • What about Romney? Romney has criticized Trump, but has been reasonably quiet. Trump definitely was pulling for Romney in 2012.

        Romney on the ticket would help him show that he is not Hitler, right? Would Romney accept 2nd fiddle to Trump? Is this plausible?


        December 30, 2015 at 3:11 PM

      • Romney has been harshly critical of Trump. If they could make nice, Romney would help Trump a lot more than Cruz.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 30, 2015 at 3:14 PM

      • This has been a trap for insurgent candidates. Wallace ’68 (initially, before backtracking) and Reagan ’76 demoralized their base by picking far more moderate running mates. Perot and Buchanan couldn’t recruit anyone with even a halfway decent resume. A good running mate also provides social proof.

        R bosses are likely threatening every solid VP prospect with blacklisting if they were to align with Trump.

        Hillary’s probable VP Castro has had a largely sheltered political career stage-managed by donors and party bosses. He can be out-debated by a halfway decent adversary but not by a no-name or a gimmick or a lousy speaker (e.g. Tancredo).

        Once decent pick might be former U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, who ran for president in 2008 and whose son now serves in the House.


        December 30, 2015 at 4:15 PM

      • Definitely not Romney. Trump doesn’t want anyone liked by the establishment. Otherwise he’s liable to have an “accident” after being elected.


        December 30, 2015 at 4:18 PM

      • Remember the president and vice president can’t live in the same state. Even if one of them moves, having two obvious New Yorkers on the same ticket would be a disaster nationally.


        December 30, 2015 at 6:04 PM

      • “Definitely not Romney. Trump doesn’t want anyone liked by the establishment. Otherwise he’s liable to have an “accident” after being elected.”

        Not likely. Establishment Republicans are cowards whose only known posture is bending over and waiting. Isn’t that what got us where we are today? The kind of people who would kill other people do not become establishment Republicans. If Trump is assassinated, I expect to be a leftist.


        December 30, 2015 at 6:13 PM

      • Screw Romney. He stinks of loser. What does Trump need him for?


        December 30, 2015 at 6:48 PM

      • Most likely veep for Trump would be Senator Tim Scott (R-SC). Scott had a great interview with Trump (see it on YT) and is a popular upcoming party star that could connect Trump back to the establishment voters without selling out.

        Gov Sandoval seemed like a possibility but he seems frosty to Trump now.

        Cruz wants a Supreme appointment more than the veep job.


        December 30, 2015 at 8:19 PM

      • Out of all Republicans, Cruz is the best candidate for VP short of Jeff Sessions. He smooths over any remaining doubts Evangelicals have about Trump, ramps up conservative nationwide conservative turnout, and his debate abilities and message compliment Trump’s.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 30, 2015 at 10:07 PM

      • Ex-congressman Duncan Hunter Sr would be a good option for Trump. They have similar views on immigration and foreign policy, and are unlikely to disagree on anything substantive on economics. As a conservative from California, Hunter brings some regional balance to the ticket without losing anything in terms of ideology.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 30, 2015 at 10:12 PM

      • Hillary’s probable VP Castro has had a largely sheltered political career stage-managed by donors and party bosses.

        Julian Castro is homosexual and rumored to have a gay sex tape involving himself. He’s also corrupt and stupid. I’d love for him to the her VP, but I doubt she’s dumb enough to select him.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 30, 2015 at 10:17 PM

      • You need to have someone who excites the base otherwise we are going to be right back in the turnout deficit.
        The only reason the D’s have done well is the over performing of the Obama base. Without the base excitement every ticket sinks down into the mire.

        I am going to suggest a Southern governor- maybe a Greg Abbott or Pat McCrory. If he wants to recreate the Omarosa magic there is always Mia Love.

        And I continue to like the idea of luring over Manchin. He has to realize that there is no future for straight white men in the Democrats.

        Lion of the Turambar

        December 31, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    • That’s not a bad idea for the Lion


      December 30, 2015 at 3:03 PM

      • I want to work for Trump, I got some good ideas.


        December 30, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    • There’s not a shortage of anything in NY.

      Dave Pinsen

      December 30, 2015 at 7:50 PM

  3. I don’t think that a multi-billionaire can risk having Mitt “47%” Romney on his ticket.


    December 30, 2015 at 5:11 PM

  4. Sadly the order of the primary system is set up to defeat any right Republican.
    Feb. 1 Iowa Caucus – this will go to the Jesus Candidate, probably Cruz, Trump may not do well.
    Feb. 9 the next week, New Hampshire – the state of elderly, shielded, isolated Repubs with no experience of Mexicans or Muslims will have a stronger showing of Jeb! than expected. Some other Establishment candidate will do well, like Rubio or Christie.
    March 1 – a month of crowing about Trumps “defeat” comes Super Tuesday, so the social proof may be just the opposite. Still, Trump will do well Super Tuesday, winning Texas, Cruz comes in a close 2nd.
    March 15 – winner take all states Florida and Ohio. Trump will do well, but some second tier candidate also, things will have congealed for the establishment by then.
    April 19, 26 – a full month later, finally the mid Atlantic and New York, eastern seaboard. This is Trumps base, but it may come too late, at the end of the cycle. We will know then. Four months away…


    December 30, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    • @Scarlett
      There’s absolutely no rule against president and beep hailing from the same state. The only rule is that electors cannot vote for both a president and a vice president from their own state. Since New York will vote Hillary, Trump and Giuliani are clear to run together.


      December 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    • Lion is depending on national polls. Trump is not doing so well in the early state polls. Those are the contests the national party set up to block insurgents.

      Iowa will go for Cruz or Rubio. It won’t break until the last week so polls today don’t mean anything. But it will be one of the extreme Jesus candidates that want to prohibit abortion even if the mother’s life is at stake or there was a rape, like Rubio. If it’s Rubio, that will be the end of it. The establishment will coalesce and Rubio will be the nominee.

      Then Trump will have big negative social proof everywhere. He will fade considerably between IA and NH. If Trump survives the attacks and wins NH he may have a chance, but if Rubio wins the establishment will back him and the race is over. If Cruz or Christie wins, Trump will fade out and the race will be between Jeb and Rubio.


      December 30, 2015 at 8:44 PM

      • Trump is way ahead in NH, and NH has a long tradition of ignoring the IA results.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 30, 2015 at 8:51 PM

      • Sadly the order of the primary system is set up to defeat any right Republican.

        Trump sweeps after Iowa. Trump is pretty much assured of placing at least 2nd in Iowa because he and Cruz collectively have 70% of the Iowa vote. That leaves little room for one of the numerous third place candidates to consolidate the remaining ~30% and beat Trump for second. He could also win Iowa outright in which case it’s curtains for the rest of the GOP field.

        Once the Iowa Caucuses are out of the way Trump’s Jacksonian platform will win him the South where primary voters are prioritizing immigration and Islamic terrorism more than Iowa Evangelicals.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 30, 2015 at 10:00 PM

  5. Trump needs to stay outside the box with his VP pick.

    1. Putin to cement the east west alliance against terrorism.
    2. Watson the IBM computer to avoid any sex scandals.
    3. Mighty Lionoftheblogosphere because he needs a job.

    Constitution issues but people aren’t backing Trump because they are concerned about the constitution.


    December 30, 2015 at 5:37 PM

  6. the establishment only needs to keep Trump’s delegates to under 50% of the total. If they do that they can get nominate someone else at a brokered convention.

    The first 2 states are really tough for Trump.

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 30, 2015 at 6:15 PM

  7. To be honest, I don’t know if Trump will be able to pull off becoming the candidate. The Establishment cucks hate him so much, that I wouldn’t put it past them to simply use some “administrative” barrier to arbitrarily nix him from consideration (e.g. what they were plotting to do at that Asian fusion restaurant).

    That of course, also assumes that some Islamic terrorist, left-wing whacko, or Mexican sicario doesn’t assassinate Trump before he can even take office.


    December 30, 2015 at 6:29 PM

  8. Ted Cruz would really sour me on voting Trump in November. I’d still do it, but with much less enthusiasm.


    December 30, 2015 at 7:10 PM

  9. Karl Rove didn’t even graduate from college; no wonder why the Republicans have been so screwed up.

    He’s more successful than you.


    December 30, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    • I disagree. Lion is too much of an intellectual to desire the kind of political operator role that Rove played for so many years. He was a strategist: Lion is a thinker – and a better one. But I do think Lion tends to exaggerate the effects of having a college degree. It is really just a kind of floor to show that you are not from the bottom quarter or in some cases, bottom half of the population in terms of literacy. Almost any college graduate can be assumed to have at least a 7th or 8th grade reading level (at the non-selective colleges) and probably an 11th or 12th grade reading level at the minimally selective college. But in terms of actual knowledge we have tons of evidence that the level of ignorance of most college grads (including the Ivy Leaguers) is appalling. I mentioned once my Harvard educated friend who drew a black at the name Winston Churchill. And she is someone born in the early 1970’s,


      December 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM

      • “my Harvard educated friend who drew a black at the name Winston Churchill.”

        It figures.


        December 31, 2015 at 6:03 AM

      • Rove did earn about 42 million dollars in 2012 by mismanaging Romney PAC money and delivering a losing race. To make that much and still lose is quite an accomplishment.

        Mike Street Station

        December 31, 2015 at 10:15 AM

  10. What about Jim Webb? He is a former democrat, who served in the Reagan admin, war hero and sympathetic to the sort of people Trump is championing. He may be good for getting the white vote & turnout to increase enough for Trump to win the general.

    With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    December 30, 2015 at 9:22 PM

  11. VP will look a little different if Trump is the Republican nominee vs. running as an independent. If he’s an independent, the hard part is finding somebody with a decent résumé who will say yes, and there’s more potential for damaging criticism that Trump’s a loser if he can’t get anybody with a decent résumé. He might be lucky to sign up some forgettable former Senator who won’t say anything too stupid. Trump as the Republican nominee has a better bargaining position in getting a running mate.

    I think Lion is right that having run for president in the past is the best guarantee that somebody’s been well vetted and can handle the bright lights. So, Giuliani. I also wonder about Wesley Clark. Good non-politician bio, ran for president and didn’t screw up too bad. No idea if he could be talked into switching parties for a long shot at being #2. Maybe not.

    Any other vetting besides a real presidential campaign means you’re rolling the dice. If Prince Rhombus strong-arms everybody into saying no, there’s always Jeff Sessions or Duncan Hunter or Duncan Hunter’s son, the other Duncan Hunter. Pat Buchanan if his health is good for a man of his age … just thinking of fallback plans at this point.

    I wonder about retired high-level military guys. There might be one or two who are willing to come out of retirement for the satisfaction of taking a swipe at the milquetoast liberals in Washington. Former head Marine James Conway seems to have some fire in his belly. Of course, you’re rolling the dice with those guys having a scandal or screwing up the debates, but that’s true of almost anybody.

    Greg Pandatshang

    December 30, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    • Wesley Clark is the worst.

      “There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.” (1999)


      December 31, 2015 at 6:08 AM

      • Wesley Clark is also a conspiracy nut. He would be a terrible pick.

        Mike Street Station

        December 31, 2015 at 10:22 AM

      • Conspiracy nut could be a bad thing if it makes him look crazy and stupid. Anything more specific than that about his thinking and policies doesn’t matter very much; he wouldn’t be running for president. It might have a morale effect on Trump’s core, but really they are going to be fired up by Trump winning the nomination regardless, as is only right and good.

        Greg Pandatshang

        December 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM

  12. I wonder how different history would have turned out if Ross Perot had run for the Republican nomination in 1992 instead of going independent.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    December 30, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    • If Perot runs as a Repub., that puts HW in office instead of Clinton. I’d say there would have been small differences. Most trends flow from big institutions: media; academia; big business. They are all for immigration and socialism.


      December 31, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    • If Perot runs as a Repub., that puts HW in office instead of Clinton.

      Only if Bush wins the nomination. Bush was weak enough in 1992 that he could have lost the primary to a challenge by Perot. As an independent Perot was, afterall, polling a plurality of the nationwide vote for a time. Considering his appeal to a plurality of general election voters, it’s no great stretch to envision him winning most Republican primary voters. From there he could have defeated Clinton with newly invigorated conservative turnout, some blue collar Democrats, and disgruntled independents.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 31, 2015 at 11:13 AM

  13. My top VP pick is Jeff Sessions. My second preference would be, about equally, either Cruz the elder Duncan Hunter.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    December 30, 2015 at 10:24 PM

  14. Cruz, for all his faults, particularly the juvenile arrogance which he recently left behind, has something very few other national candidates have ever had, and that is an appreciation for both courage and empathy. In November 2016, Trump will take Texas with or without Cruz,and Cruz will be of no help in designedly anti-Republican states like California and New York, but swing states like Florida and Virginia and Pennsylvania (which will be more in play for Republicans due to the trial of the Clintonesque Bill Cosby) and even little New Hampshire have plenty of people who respect the intelligence, hard work, sincere repentance for past follies, and courage and empathy that Cruz has been displaying. Also, “Cruz” is, from a Christian point of view, one of the best possible Spanish-derived last names for the first nationally elected person born in Canada.

    howitzer daniel

    December 30, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    • Cruz is not eligible. He knows it and yet he still runs. Can’t trust him.

      Andrew E.

      December 31, 2015 at 10:06 AM

  15. Yesterday I received a Donald Trump Christmas card.
    I’m glad I made it onto his mailing list, but I’m not exactly sure how.
    What’s amazing about the card is that there’s no return envelope enclosed –
    No request for any money.
    As a Republican donor over the years, I cannot recall this ever happening to me
    just weeks before an election .

    Trump 2016!

    You can see the card here on Red State, which apparently hates The Donald for some reason.
    They’re also upset because the card was late.
    I’ve never been to Red State before – Some guy named Erik Erickson was in charge there it seems.
    I’ve never heard of him either.

    Nedd Ludd

    December 31, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    • Redstate hates Trump because they are cuckservatives par excellence. They themselves are somewhat anti-establishment, yet they love Rubio.

      I think most Redstaters are for Cruz now but they love Rubio too.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 31, 2015 at 2:41 AM

      • Which is kind of funny because the redder the state the more they like Trump. Perhaps Erickson should change the name of his site?


        December 31, 2015 at 4:19 PM

  16. Despite the media’s hatred of the Donald, he’s still going to garner something like 20+ % of the black vote based simply on his “big man” image. (which blacks just love) As a Republican he’s got a strong chance to achieve something unprecedented here in separating the Democratic party from a significant portion of its most loyal constituency – and remember that blacks gave Obama something like 25% of the votes he received in the general election. This will be especially true if Bernie Sanders is the candidate, since blacks yawn at the thought of his candidacy and they won’t head to the polls in any where near the same numbers as they did for Obama.

    Trump should adopt a “new black strategy” and make his VP pick based on polls of how potential VP candidates would fare with blacks.


    December 31, 2015 at 9:33 AM

  17. Polling a Ted Cruz vs Donald Trump race with no other candidates in the field shows both at 49%.

    That’s a toss up.

    Lion is right, the other candidates are helping Trump because his base is more committed, and the people who do not like his base are scattered across many candidates.


    Trump will have to get the Republican establishment wing of the party to support him and not stab him in the back if he wants to win the election. Reagan picked Bush for this reason. Trump’s vp choice will be somebody disappointing. Too bad, because Trump’s advisors Cohen and Pierson are all kinds of awesome.


    December 31, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    • “Trump will have to get the Republican establishment wing of the party to support him and not stab him in the back if he wants to win the election. Reagan picked Bush for this reason. Trump’s vp choice will be somebody disappointing.”

      Remember that the Vice President does nothing except attend funerals. The only reason to be disappointed in a VP pick is if the pick makes it harder for Trump to win the general election.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 31, 2015 at 11:42 AM

      • Remember that the Vice President does nothing except attend funerals.

        Unless he’s Cheney, who clearly set policies and created one disaster after another.

        And the VP is first in line for a future presidential run.

        Look at Bush 1. He got in because he was VP, then his two idiot sons came on the scene because they were his boys.

        Without Reagan there would be no Bush 1, Bush/Cheney or Jebbie!


        December 31, 2015 at 4:16 PM

      • Obama was not previously a VP.
        Bush was not previously a VP (although he was the son of a VP)
        Clinton was not previously a VP
        H.W. Bush: was previously a VP but only a one-term president
        Reagan: was not previously a VP
        Carter: was not previously a VP

        Thus we see of the last 10 presidential terms, only one of those terms was served by a guy who used to be a VP.

        VP job means little. VP attends funerals. VP only sets policy of Trump lets him. Trump should pick whomever will help him get elected, regardless how how crappy a president you think he’d be.

        Romney would be the best VP because he looks really good in a dark suit, he’d look very vice presidential at funerals.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 31, 2015 at 4:21 PM

  18. O/T – but relevant. What do you think about the previous police comissioner of NYC who championed stop & frisk, and may now want to run against big stupid?


    December 31, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    • And the Greekmatides will fund his campaign.

      I’m willing to bet a lot of 2 faced limousine liberals and also guidos in Staten Island will vote for him when he runs.


      December 31, 2015 at 12:05 PM

      • Guidos who voted for De Blasio because they thought he was Italian are all going to vote against him next election.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 31, 2015 at 12:07 PM

  19. “Karl Rove didn’t even graduate from college; no wonder why the Republicans have been so screwed up.”

    Being stupid was Bush’s whole shtick. This is great when you are the party of people too ignorant to understand they are being swindled by the system.

    Guys got a truck, he’s from Texas, he’s a good ole boy. Yeah. Keep up the great work GOP.

    Trump is on his way to being a real game changer. Win or lose.


    January 1, 2016 at 3:31 AM

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