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Romney would be the best VP for Trump

To follow up from some comments:

The best possible VP pick for Trump would be Romney. Romney would help bridge the gap between Trump and the establishment. There’s not a single establishment Republican better liked and respected than Romney. That’s why people are even talking about Romney being picked as the nominee if there’s a brokered convention.

Remember the VP’s only job is to attend funerals. He has no constitutional authority to set policy. Based on these criteria, Romney would obviously be best at the job because he looks really good in a dark suit, he’d look very vice-presidential at funerals.

The problem is that I don’t think Romney wants the job. A second problem is that Romney has said some negative things about Trump, but Trump, who is the master of making deals (he wrote the book), would surely be willing to make peace in order to increase his chance of winning the election. But once again, I don’t think that Romney wants the job.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 31, 2015 at 4:34 pm

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  1. two old white guys on the ticket? not gonna happen. GOP will pander by putting Carla or Rubio/Cruz at #2.


    December 31, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    • The GOPe HATES Cruz, they love Romney. And it’s Trump’s choice to make, not the GOPe.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 31, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      • Does Trump get to pick his running mate? If Trump pulls this one out Cruz will be on the ticket.


        December 31, 2015 at 5:26 pm

      • Strictly speaking it is the GOP’s choice.


        December 31, 2015 at 7:08 pm

      • Scarlet,

        Do you have a link explaining that its the GOP choice? I have never seen this spelled out or even cared because it hasn’t mattered before.


        January 1, 2016 at 1:25 am

    • The GOPe HATES Cruz, they love Romney.

      Hitting the New Year’s booze a bit early?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 31, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    • Rubio and Cruz are both white, and, besides, the GOP gets no mileage from identity politics.

      Dave Pinsen

      December 31, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    • Two guys, both with 9-10 figure wealth isn’t good optics. And Romney doesn’t want the capstone of his career to be playing Robin to anyone, much less to a guy like Trump.


      January 1, 2016 at 8:17 am

  2. “Remember the VP’s only job is to attend funerals.”

    Actually, the only constitutional job of the VP is President of the Senate and the VP can cast a tie breaking vote in the Senate. VP’s seldom preside in the Senate. The VP sometimes shows up when a vote is thought to be close, but this is very rare.


    December 31, 2015 at 4:57 pm

  3. I bet Trump will either pick an Establishment VP who has not criticized him too much, or he will select a VP who really pronounces his message (like Ted Cruz).

    The problem I have is that I can’t really predict anything Trump will do. I think he tries to be a wildcard like that to maintain an edge over his rivals.


    December 31, 2015 at 5:00 pm

  4. Trump needs guys like me who believe in his agenda, but are not ‘yes’ men. No establishment types, all new fresh faces. GOP apparatchiks should be send packing home. Romney anywhere close to the ticket is corruption as usual. Trump will not do it. Hate, hate, hate Romney!


    December 31, 2015 at 5:06 pm

  5. I am 90% sure that Hillary will go with a Hispanic politician, like Julian or Joaquin Castro.

    The mindset among Democrats is that it’s good we had a black president, so now we need to have a female president. Once we’ve had a female president, it makes sense to move on to a Hispanic president.

    Furthermore, the Democrats will not let up on Trump’s comment that illegal immigrants are drug-dealing rapists. They’ll have a Hispanic VP to really capitalize that.

    Finally, Democrats could signal to the SJW crowd that they’re serious about The Great Replacement. Elect us one more time, and you won’t have to worry about those pesky white Republicans in the White House anymore!

    One of the Castro brothers makes sense, but another Hispanic could very well be selected. But frankly, I don’t see Hillary not selecting a Hispanic at this point. It just makes too much sense.

    On a side note, if we get Hillary and then a Hispanic president, I wonder who the next minority figure “we need to have president” will be. I doubt Democrats would get excited about a Jewish or Asian president. I guess if we have Hillary for eight years and a Hispanic president for another eight, the US will be “ready” for a gay president.


    December 31, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    • ” I guess if we have Hillary for eight years and a Hispanic president for another eight, the US will be “ready” for a gay president.”
      You mean we don’t already have one?


      January 1, 2016 at 12:38 am

      • Obama doesn’t trigger anyone’s gaydar, even in the manner Al Gore did with his lithp.


        January 1, 2016 at 3:01 am

    • I think the same.

      Hillary picking a Castro will be a great moment in obvious identity politics, as they are far less qualified than even Obama was.

      That’s the one reason I think it might not happen, someone at the DNC might have the foresight to say…”wait, is this too obvious?”.

      Oh god… I hope it happens. Such an easy attack for Trump “So this Castro… nice last name…. well she only picked him because he’s hispanic. He’s not qualified”… Followed by the predictable media outrage… Trump not backing down… and boost in poll numbers. Same old story. Hell, PLEASE let Hillary be this stupid.


      January 1, 2016 at 1:23 am

      • There is, of course, nothing meritocratic about the way Democrats pick their candidates now. Obama, Hillary and likely the Castros have only a meager measure of the political skill and talent that FDR, JFK, LBJ or Bill Clinton had. They’re all mediocrities.


        January 1, 2016 at 3:11 am

    • Its a good observation that Dems wouldn’t be that excited for a jewish nominee. I don’t remember the reaction to Lieberman as VP in 2000, but I’d bet you’re correct.

      Whats interesting about it is that if there is ever a Jewish candidate for president, it will almost certainly be a Democrat. Looking at jewish-americans in politics, Democrat Jews are far more likely to hold political office, while Republican Jews are almost exclusively pundits, donor class, policy advisors, etc.


      January 1, 2016 at 1:33 am

      • I’ve seen it pointed out (I forget where) that it’s almost impossible for a Republican Jew to get elected to office, because he’d have to come from a district with a lot of Jews, which are usually urban and hence heavily Democratic. I think Lee Zeldin is from Long Island. Cantor happened to come from a family with roots in the area.


        January 2, 2016 at 6:42 pm

  6. Romney has the establishment stink Trump voters hate. It would have to be a serious guy, but not establishment Republican. Jim Webb might fit the bill.


    December 31, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    • “Jim Webb might fit the bill.”
      Trump/Webb would be awesome. Webb has been saying anti-Hillary things.


      January 1, 2016 at 12:39 am

  7. Romney has become a spokesmen for the “We need to be sensitive and love minorities and get with the program” wing of the Republican party. He detests Trump. But things change, and I think that the VP slot is tough for anyone to pass up. But I think Trump would do a lot of stuff based on personal relationships, and I can’t imagine those two guys getting along.

    I think they’ll go with Susana Martinez, giving him a Hispanic female, which will allow him to kill two birds with one stone.


    December 31, 2015 at 5:28 pm

  8. Romney would never do it. Too demeaning..and he doesn’t need it.

    Mrs Stitch

    December 31, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    • True, and Trump wouldn’t want Romney either.

      Romney lost, Trump has repeatedly said he “choked”. He’s an establishment guy who cares too much what people think of him. Read his twitter. Not a Trump VP choice. No chance.

      I agree with Lion that in some ideal world where Romney had weaned away from the establishment for the past 4 years, and criticized Obama with a little more backbone but still somehow kept a polished image, he’d be a good choice.


      January 1, 2016 at 1:17 am

  9. So you think it’s a good idea for the multi-billionaire (whose name has become a virtual by word for riches over the last 3 decades) to choose Mitt “47 percent” Romney?


    December 31, 2015 at 6:12 pm

  10. Romney is a good choice if your goal is to make peace with the GOP establishment to get on the Trump train. However what votes does he bring to the ticket? He already lost on his own, and our national demographics will be even less geared towards the GOP in 2016.

    And every Presidential election thereafter of course.

    Mike Street Station

    December 31, 2015 at 6:17 pm

  11. Since today is Dec. 31st, I spent some time this afternoon at my office (before leaving early) to perform my annual ritual of calculating my net worth. It was a mediocre year – just up 10% – and most of that was real estate appreciation.

    E. Rekshun

    December 31, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    • This is good.


      December 31, 2015 at 11:51 pm

  12. Since the VP really doesn’t do anything important, competence isn’t a major factor in picking a candidate. Adding support to the ticket is. I actually kind of like Romney, but he ran a poor campaign last time, and he hails from a state (Massachusetts) that the Republicans have little chance of carrying. The VP choice has got to bring some support to the ticket, and Romney doesn’t. Possible good choices include Fiorina (good with women and a fine anti-Hillary torpedo), Rubio (not my favorite, but the GOP hasn’t won an election without taking Florida since before WW II), Carson (also not my favorite, but helpful race and religion), maybe Cruz (an evangelical, but comes from Texas, which the GOP is sure to carry). Don’t see much of an upside to Romney, and he may not want the job anyway.

    Black Death

    December 31, 2015 at 6:33 pm

  13. The actual purpose of the Vice President is to become President if the President chosen by the Electoral College leaves office due to death, disability, etc.

    One of the amazing things about American political history is how long it took people to understand this. Until the 25th Amendment, the Constitution as usual was vague on this point, and people had the idea that if the President died or resigned, the Vice President would just fill in as acting President for a few weeks until a new election, though there is no provision in the Constitution or federal law for such an election. And they were originally going to have the Vice President be the runner up in the Presidential Election, which means without the 12th Amendment, Romney would already be Vice President now. Two of the VPs who became President on the death of the President were actually from the opposing political party. At least two more were from an opposing faction within the presidential party. It wasn’t until the JFK assassination and the 25th Amendment that it really sunk in that the Vice President at least should be someone who would likely continue the policies of his predecessor.

    Needless to say, with Trump, Romney doesn’t meet this test.

    Btw, I think LOB’s opinion of Romney is colored by the fact that Romney would be the first non-Christian Prez, if you don’t count all the atheist and unitarians.


    December 31, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    • Ironically Lincoln’s VP and successor Andrew Johnson was a southern loyalist who was on the ticket for obvious reasons, thus when Lincoln was killed the South was let off easy.

      With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

      January 1, 2016 at 7:03 am

      • By some estimates more than 1 million people died from disease and malnutrition during Reconstruction (the American Holodomar) precisely as Southern leaders predicted before the war. Reconstruction (read total economic collapse) was the single greatest cause of death in American history (the war itself only claimed 600,000 lives). By what possible measure is that being let off easy?


        January 1, 2016 at 12:37 pm

      • By some estimates more than 1 million people died from disease and malnutrition during Reconstruction (the American Holodomar)

        Another stupid attack against Lincoln .

        A third of all slaves died as a result of them being too stupid to take care of themselves without the assistance of white slaveholders. The South shouldn’t have provoked the North into a war that led to the end of slavery, especially when the North was initially content to leave slavery in peace where it already existed.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 1, 2016 at 5:35 pm

      • “The South shouldn’t have provoked the North into a war ”

        You don’t ‘provoke’ another power into war simply by exercising rights as allowed under the constitution and as historically exercised by your nation. Here’s a few of the secession events occurring prior to the civil war: 1) secession of colonies from UK; 2) secession of states to from the Confederation to create the constitutional convention; 3) secession of territories held in common by the states to state constitutional conventions (every territory not ceded by a state and turned into states was first held ‘in common’ not by the federal government but by the states as autonomous actors); 4) Kentucky seceded from Virginia, without opposition, and North Carolina ceded the Tennessee lands to the US for territorial management and later organization into a state, 5) the first legal scholars writing about the constitution assumed a right of secession; 6) three state ratification ordinances specifically referenced the right of secession; etc., etc, etc.


        January 2, 2016 at 11:36 am

      • The South started the war by attacking Fort Sumter. Completely unnecessarily.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 2, 2016 at 11:43 am

      • You don’t ‘provoke’ another power into war simply by exercising rights as allowed under the constitution and as historically exercised by your nation.

        They left because they wanted to forcibly expand slavery into free soil territories. The Union was obligated to defend the rights of free soilers not to have slavery imposed on their land by the Confederates, .

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 2, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    • Internally, Tyler’s administration was all about establishing this. He’s ignored by historians but IMHO a great President who actually accomplished what he set out to do.


      January 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm

  14. Ann Coulter has suggested Romney as VP also.

    One correction though: the VP doesn’t just attend funerals. He’s also president of the Senate. And, depending on the administration, he can take on additional roles. Cheney did a lot more than go to funerals (he also helped create more funerals).

    Dave Pinsen

    December 31, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    • “One correction though: the VP doesn’t just attend funerals. He’s also president of the Senate.”
      But I repeat myself….


      January 1, 2016 at 12:40 am

  15. I was a big fan of Romney, almost entirely because of his personal character, Mitt’s very smart and hard-working while still having the better qualities of the business class. Mitt would have been good at the job. Frankly, I’ve written off Trump as somebody I wouldn’t vote for under any circumstances on account of character — he’s too erratic, unpredictable, and too lazy to learn about the job he’s asking for. Trump has a few obvious strengths, but they aren’t particularly suited to the White House. He’s just not a serious person, and he wants a very serious job.

    So people like me would be the “target audience” of that move, at least among voters (it would obviously be a move tailored to wooing donors primarily.) FWIW, I think I’d need assurances of a larger role for Romney in foreign policy before I reconsidered Trump. I really do think Trump will say something stupid about another head of state and be a total disaster in that area, in a different way than Obama has been a disaster but equal in magnitude. Perhaps Romney could be promised as Secretary of State? But honestly, even then, it would be a hard sell for me. So tactically, Trump might be better off ignoring those like me, doubling down on his appeal to working-class uneducated whites, accept that he’ll lose some points with the middle-class and high school graduates, and try to win that way. The additional % of whites he needs to win isn’t that much if the turnout and voting pattern of other demographics remains constant from 2012 — it won’t, though.


    December 31, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    • Republicans have only had two serious presidential candidates since WWII: Eisenhower and GHW Bush. Get a grip.

      some guy

      January 3, 2016 at 4:47 pm

  16. Romney may have been the best option available in 2008 and 2012. But do we really want him now that we have Trump? He’d be the GOPe’s man on the inside exerting establishment influence on Trump’s administration while feeding the establishment inside information. We already had that when the GOPe forced Reagan to pick that establishment dickhead Bush (41).

    As for voters; independents, minorities and crossover Dems will still see Romney as the candidate they didn’t want last time. And conservative Republicans who never really liked Romney will see the pick as Trump selling out. So, while Romney himself isn’t the worst guy in the world, choosing him for veep would hurt Trump with groups he actually does surprisingly well with and needs to win. Horrible choice for veep. Guilliani is the way to go.

    Though I do think Romney could be drafted to work on special projects like reforming the VA. Romney has shown a remarkable ability to turn bad situations around. That’s what he did at Bain Capital as well as the Utah Olympics. And he’s civic minded enough to do it if asked. Particularly since it’s a project he could work on rather than a job he’d be indentured to. Reforming the VA would also be a chance to redeem himself and leave a great legacy after having lost the election. The guy who straightens out the VA will be a national hero.


    December 31, 2015 at 7:38 pm

  17. Trump voters don’t want an establishment wimp/loser like Romney with Trump. What’s the point of Trump if he’s going to “reach out” to the establishment? Let the establishment reach out to Trump. Let the establishment drop dead!

    Trump/Cruz would be my ticket.


    December 31, 2015 at 8:05 pm

  18. Trump won’t be the nominee, but if he is, it’ll be Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina.

    Romney would never accept the job.


    December 31, 2015 at 8:35 pm

  19. Romney was one of the worst campaigners in Republican history and many in the base never warmed up to him and his weird religion. I don’t see him adding much and he did badly in key states like Ohio. There’s bound to be some reasonably conservative Hispanic who can be tapped. Rubio might be the guy.


    December 31, 2015 at 8:53 pm

  20. This is a bad idea. Romney, as you said, doesn’t want the job, and he’s too old to run for President after 1 or 2 terms of Trump.
    The VP role used to be a grooming role for President, though Cheney and Biden both went against this mold.

    Half canadian

    December 31, 2015 at 8:56 pm

  21. There’s not a single establishment Republican better liked and respected than Romney.


    By the voters, not so much.

    The main problem is that with Romney as VP, the way is open to eliminate Trump via some manufactured scandal or other means. Trump would have to spend every second watching his back. Contrary to what Lion always claims, Trump cannot accept a VP with the “gravitas” to be President, because that creature would be a threat to him. What he needs is someone who does not drive voters away, but whom the Democrats would hate to see in the Oval Office.


    December 31, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    • Also, apropos of “gravitas” — since the entire Establishment already thinks that Trump himself lacks the “gravitas” to be President, Trump loses nothing by choosing a VP lacking in “gravitas”.


      December 31, 2015 at 9:14 pm

  22. Trump will chose none of the establishment types, they are all tainted. Trump is real, he’ll never do it. I wouldn’t do, so Trump, who is much smarter then me, for sure won’t do it. Don’t insult Trump’s intelligence and character.


    December 31, 2015 at 11:57 pm

  23. Romney would be an awful choice. He’s the candidate from Central Casting. Utterly inauthentic.
    At best, Romney is a manager – Not a leader.
    America does not need a manager – We need a leader to reverse the progressive rot.

    Can anyone even tell me what Romney’s last campaign was about, or what Romney stood for?
    Romney’s Platform seemed to be: Elect me. I’m a tall good looking guy with an attractive family
    and I deserve this job.”
    Anyway, Romney, like Trump, is also from the Northeast, so that would be another reason not to pick Romney.

    I was going to suggest Walter Williams, or Thomas Sowell, but alas they’re both too old.
    (79 and 85 respectively)

    Nedd Ludd

    January 1, 2016 at 12:04 am

  24. The VP I would want is Susana Martinez. A woman, a latina and very intelligent. She would help bring the establishment on board like Bush Sr did for Reagan.

    If Trump gets the nom, however, it will be because he made a deal with Cruz and Cruz will be his VP. The establishment will never back a Trump Cruz ticket making the race unwinnable, but it might be the best we can hope for. Also lets us start the process of taking the entire party over from the establishment.

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 1, 2016 at 12:15 am

    • Latina = cuck choice.


      January 1, 2016 at 2:36 am

      • Any woman = a cuck choice


        January 1, 2016 at 6:58 pm

  25. Internet billionaire and Shark Tank panelist Mark Cuban has also been discussed as a potential Trump VP (e.g. at Maybe he would help keep Trump in check during Trump’s angrier flare-ups. Plus the two of them would create a complete political-outsider ticket, which would be a deal-breaker for some voters, but a magic mix for many others who are ready for a genuine change.


    January 1, 2016 at 1:17 am

    • Unfortunately, no chance.

      Cuban is an alphadog and wouldn’t take a backseat just to be VP.

      Plus he publicly criticized Trump’s muslim immigration ban, with harsh words. Disqualifier.

      Cuban is no doubt eyeing his own run in politics though, watching Trump’s success very closely. Just like he followed Trump’s success of The Apprentice with SharkTank and The Benefactor, Cuban is always his own alphadog, but not a rogue trailblazer like Trump.


      January 1, 2016 at 1:48 am

  26. Why would it benefit Trump to pick an establishment Republican? He’d be better off picking a Democrat.


    January 1, 2016 at 1:56 am

  27. Something to consider: back in 2012, when Romney picked Paul Ryan as his VP candidate, many of us were happy with the choice. Ryan was articulate, a policy wonk, and a fiscal conservative. He turned out to be a terrible campaigner, got his head handed to him to Biden in the VP debate, and, today, as Speaker of the House, he has rubber-stamped all of Obama’s initiatives, on immigration and everything else. And his fiscal conservatism is out the window.

    Dave Pinsen

    January 1, 2016 at 6:03 am

    • *I* was not happy with the pick. It was immediately obvious that he lacked gravitas, and that Romney picked him because he thought he was “exciting.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 1, 2016 at 9:46 am

    • Ryan is a bitter disappoinment. The man is slimy sell-out lying weasel. Totally bought and paid for by chamber of commerce.

      He’s a prime example of why Trump should NOT pick any establishment republican. The entire establishment, all of it, carries water for corporations. And corporations are nation-busters and will leave us all in the Third World.


      January 1, 2016 at 7:02 pm

      • Ryan really isn’t a sellout. He is a true believer in open borders.

        Otis the Sweaty

        January 2, 2016 at 3:16 am

  28. You are like children. Listen here, Trump will not touch a tainted loser with a barge pole. They have all disgraced themselves and are worse then worthless – they are liabilities.


    January 1, 2016 at 10:58 am

    • AGREE!



      January 1, 2016 at 11:34 am

  29. Lion, I’ve learned from the Libertarian wizards plus my military contacts Trump’s people are talking to a female general officer who is against the draft as a VP.

    This is probably just due diligence on their part. Every campaign flatters a few allies with some VEEP talk.

    Nonetheless IMHO it would be a brilliant move by Trump, brutally silencing the GOPe while outflanking Hilary on Foreign Policy, billionaire, the draft of women, and the fem issues. His base could love it.


    January 1, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    • Perot picked an admiral for VP, it didn’t work out for him. He took his hearing aid off during the debate. It was so pathetic.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 1, 2016 at 10:27 pm

      • Perot picked an admiral for VP

        Yes, a very, very old man damaged by years in a prisoner of war camp. A 50+ year old articulate ex general by comparison is not so bad.

        Romney is finished. He’s basically a member of the Bush family.


        January 1, 2016 at 10:51 pm

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