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Is the Democratic alliance fracturing?

Rahm Emanuel, a big ally of the Clintons and Obama, is hated by the blacks in Chicago (for stuff that he has no control over). Is the Democratic alliance fracturing?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 3, 2016 at 2:11 pm

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  1. Alliance? Isn’t the word ‘coalition’ more commonly used?

    Emanuel is attempting to stave off the eventual disintegration of Chicago and, apparently, failing. That’s all. Some processes of decline simply have to play themselves out until things get so bad that some adult takes over. See Detroit (state as trustee), DC (feds oversight), NYC (Ed Koch), etc. More interesting to me is the efforts, or capitulation, of the GA white power structure who kept Atlanta afloat for years. I keep hearing that control has gotten away from them and that the city is going the way of Detroit.


    January 3, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    • Huh? I live in Atlanta and this is an absurd idea.

      First of all, Atlanta city limits only has a population of about 450,000. This is less than 10% of the population of Atlanta metro. Mayors here do NOT have great power at all. It’s not like being in NYC where Diblasio presides over 7+ million residents. Atlanta city limits are about 30% white, they are mainly educated (lots of SWPL’s) but they move out to suburbs when they have children, or put them in public schools. There are virtually ZERO working class or poor whites in Atlanta city limits.


      January 3, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      • I was referring to the relationship between the white corporate elite (power structure) and the black political leadership touched on in the following article and also profiled in Tom Wolf’s novel A Man in Full.

        “Since the election of Mr Jackson, the city’s first black mayor, in 1973, power in Atlanta has been largely a matter of backroom deals between black politicians and white businessmen. The latter control the money, the former the votes. Atlanta itself has a black majority, and despite being the city supposedly “too busy to hate”, race has been prominent in its elections.”


        January 4, 2016 at 1:30 am

      • Why did I read that as Diablo?


        January 4, 2016 at 3:33 am

      • @Curle – while I like Paul Kersey, he’s a sensationalist. His article makes a huge deal about the high commute times in Atlanta (and getting away from blacks certainly is a generative factor in that) but the fact of the matter is that everyone here in Atlanta metro lives in a cul-de-sac, has a big yard, and actually PREFERS to keep their car and commute. We have very low population density here.

        The quote from Tom Wolfe has some validity, but it’s important to remember that the black leadership in Atlanta is much brighter and more business-friendly than black leadership elsewhere. There’s no way that you’ll ever get a former black panther, pan-Africanist, kente-clothing wearing nutcase in office (like Bobby Rush or Charles Rangel) here, they’d be too easy to replace with a better qualified black leader who scares business leaders less.

        Every black mayoral candidate in Atlanta has to pander and kowtow to the white gay and SWPL vote, it’s quite a sight to behold. And even if black leadership here decided to go completely Chicongo or Detroit on the city they are so limited in power and scope that there’s not much they could ruin outside of the 85% black Atlanta public schools – Atlanta is composed of over 20 metro counties and power is very disjointed. For instance, Newt Gingrich had his power base right across the river from Atlanta city limits in Cobb County, which is white, affluent and powerful – so powerful in fact that the residents there won’t even allow Atlanta’s public transportation systems (Marta) to cross into their domain. (for obvious reasons)

        If you want to see a southern city that has destroyed itself by going African take a look at Birmingham or Jackson, MS.


        January 4, 2016 at 1:16 pm

  2. This won’t be popular, but I think the blacks have a point, especially on the schools.

    The Democratic alliance will fracture at some point, and it may well have started in Chicago. But that doesn’t change the main issue: Good lord, Emanuel is incompetent. No one’s asking that the Mayor of Chicago be moral. (*chortles*) But if he can’t swing that, is it too much to ask that he have a plan of some sort?


    January 3, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    • I am curious. Can you explain to me what the blacks have a point about in the linked story?


      January 3, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      • “Can you explain to me what the blacks have a point about in the linked story?”

        School closures. Vouchers. And yes, police brutality.


        January 4, 2016 at 3:48 am

    • A plan to do what? Raise black IQ? Most of the reasonably competent blacks who aren’t fortunate enough to make a great living off the political machine there have already long since migrated to the South.


      January 3, 2016 at 8:03 pm

  3. Yes it is fracturing. Both working class whites and black lumpenproles, traditionally core groups of the Democrat Party, are realizing that the DNC does not serve their interests. When it comes time to vote most of those blacks will simply stay home, but the blue collar whites will come out for Trump. Trump is hastening the great unraveling of the DNC. And I don’t think that Trump will cause an exodus of Country Club Republicans. They may dismiss him as a prole at cocktail parties, but deep down they yearn for a strong, racially aware nationalist. Most of them will say they are voting for Hillary or Rubio but secretly support Trump. The whole setup right now is a net positive for Trump.


    January 3, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    • Maybe you’re right about the dems, but Trump will unravel the republicans first.

      In fact it seems to me we are witnessing two simultaneous races; Flyover proles vs country club preps in the R side, and afro hispanic underclass vs SWPLs on the D side. Who will destroy who first? I dont know but if the SWPLs and the proles unite around a racial conscousness then America is secure for at least another 50 years.


      January 3, 2016 at 7:16 pm

      • Yeah, the Republicans will disintegrate long before the Democrats. The Republican Civil War is happening now, and the Democratic version is probably decades off. The Democrats can still unite around “more” and it’s worked successfully for years.

        Mike Street Station

        January 4, 2016 at 10:45 am

    • Yes it is fracturing. Both working class whites and black lumpenproles, traditionally core groups of the Democrat Party, are realizing that the DNC does not serve their interests.

      What i don’t understand is why the DNC chose to become so anti-White. They could have been the natural party of American government like Japan’s Liberal Democratic Party (

      Sure, pass Civil Rights legislation, but don’t mandate diversity, just drop government discrimination. Drop the hostility to traditional American values (Christianity, two-parent household, job > welfare, the police and military aren’t evil). Then keep immigration low (but mostly non-White) and the Reagan Democrats are never created.

      It’s not that hard. Sure under this plan America would be 5-15% more White, but you’d get at least 50% of the White voters, and 60-80% of the non-Whites. Permanent majority.


      January 4, 2016 at 11:28 am

      • They are not so much anti-white as anti-white prole. I attribute this to the complete leftist takeover of academia in the 1960’s. It was there that the line in the sand was drawn between liberal, upper middle class white swpls and the rest of middle America which they came to despise. This elitism festered and they began to use negros and gays as their foot soldiers in their never ending revolutionary proxy wars. Anyone who is currently a member of a protected class in the United States is nothing but a shock troop for the liberal half of the Ruling Class, whom Mencius Moldbug referred to as the Brahmins (essentially highly educated New England beta Wasps and liberal Jewish Elites).


        January 4, 2016 at 2:39 pm

  4. What we need is for violent crime to go back to 80s levels, but it isn’t doing so, even after years of BLM agitation. Why not?

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 3, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    • Because the social programs put enough money into people’s pockets for it not to happen.


      January 3, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    • Why isn’t crime returning to 1980s levels? Several reasons I think:
      – Everyone has a cell phone. Usually someone will call the cops before things get too out of hand.
      – Hot spot policing is very effective. Police concentrate where there is crime instead of spreading out evenly.
      – Lots and lots of bad guys are locked up now. Incarceration rates are far higher than in the 1980s.
      – Networked police systems means thugs can’t go to another jurisdiction and hide from their records.
      – People are spread out into the suburbs.
      – There are video cameras throughout urban areas where crime is a problem.
      – People are older and fatter.
      – More welfare
      – Birth control and abortion may be reducing the crime rate
      – Cocooning… everyone holed in indoors watching TV and playing on the Internet


      January 3, 2016 at 9:57 pm

      • I disagree only with the following: suburbs (there were always suburbs and with rich people moving back into the cities you’d expect to see more crime), people are fat (fat but also muscular blacks are excellent at strong-arm robberies), and welfare (able-bodied males don’t get welfare).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 4, 2016 at 12:33 am

      • “(able-bodied males don’t get welfare).”

        Yeah, they get “disability” instead.


        January 4, 2016 at 9:33 am

      • As far as I know, young men under the age of 30 (where all the crime comes from) are rarely getting disability. But maybe I am wrong.

        Perhaps a universal income plus free videogames would significantly reduce crime.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 4, 2016 at 9:49 am

      • From what a black lady at work says about her 30 year old son and his friends, most live off some woman. In fact, my work colleague supports two other under-employed adults almost all of the time (30ish daughter and 30ish son) supports her underemployed daughter’s child and provides occasional support to her former husband (late fifties and also rarely employed) as well as a sister (late fifties and infrequently employed). She says she comes home most days to finds her son lounging around with a new and different girl he met on the internet (almost always white) with whom he sleeps at night.


        January 5, 2016 at 12:30 am

    • Policing technology and technique have advanced too much for that to happen.


      January 3, 2016 at 10:57 pm

  5. I think so. Historically left-leaning Boomers should start worrying about entitlements vs. welfare since that will be a zero sum game going forward. Similarly, inefficient public sector unions will draw criticism from young progressives who perceive them as an impediment for reform (e.g. charter schools). I don’t see why middle class NAM (i.e. those who are net tax payers) would want to be identified as, and vote with, poorer NAM with very different values / aspirations.

    It’s funny because only a few years ago the perception was that Democrats would have an unassailable majority due to demographics. I guess no one thought about what happens to such a coalition when you run out of other people’s money.


    January 3, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    • There are no middle class NAMs. Unless you consider gov’t employees to be “middle class.”


      January 3, 2016 at 6:51 pm

  6. The Democrats have been pretty good at holding together a coalition of divergent interests, at least since FDR’s day. I think they’ll manage to do it for a while longer.

    Back in the FDR’s day, the Democrats were the party of the “little guy,” the party of middle America if you will. Today, the Democrats are the party of any faction or group that feels as if they have an axe to grind: minorities, immigrants, Muslims, single women, gays, and so on. They haven’t put out a party platform that is explicitly anti-middle America, but once they feel it’s safe to do so, they will, if for no other reason than to give their various factions a common target to train their fire on, rather than each other.

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    January 3, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    • In FDR’s day, the Democratic coalition included Jews, ethnic Catholics, organized labor, and conservative Christian Southern whites. Blacks were still aligned with the Republican Party. I’m not sure about the farm belt. I think many farmers had swung far left during the Dust Bowl bust toward the Progressive Party, which was a Republican Party offshoot.

      Mark Caplan

      January 3, 2016 at 10:16 pm

  7. We keep hearing this happening, yet when it comes to election day the Dem coalition votes in lock step for their candidates. Trump is the only candidate who might finally break that stranglehold.


    January 3, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    • There really is no alliance but fear based pandering to motivate the constituents to turn out and vote. The Democrats threaten their voters with being put in chains, lynched, dragged back in the closet etc, etc.

      Its the back rooms deal where the pie is wacked up which gets the tribal leaders to stay on the fear message- thats where the alliance may fracture. At some point the Hispanics may wonder why they are getting nothing for all the votes they are asked to deliver and are forced to hold their nose and be bed fellows with the gays. At least the black leaders all have Obama on speed dial and he doesnt make a move without clearing it with Sharpton. What comparable crumb are the Hispanics receiving?

      When the time comes Trump will be as effectively demonized as anyone else. Dont worry about an alliance cracking up over that.

      Lion of the Turambar

      January 3, 2016 at 9:22 pm

      • “At some point the Hispanics may wonder why they are getting nothing for all the votes they are asked to deliver”

        Hispanics get (1) affirmative action; and (2) more Hispanics citizens which makes them more powerful in the future.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 4, 2016 at 12:31 am

  8. ROFL on the more tasers and training for the Chicongo cops. Good luck with that when facing TNB.


    January 3, 2016 at 5:42 pm

  9. OT, but funny. White baby black parents.


    January 3, 2016 at 6:26 pm

  10. My theory is that Emanuel became collateral damage of the presidential campaign cycle.

    I have a conspiracy theory of my own: before presidential elections, Democrats try to mobilize Black voters. Although Blacks almost never vote Republican, there is a risk that they will abstain from voting. To make Blacks feel vulnerable, Democrats try to make Blacks feel as if they are under attack. In 1996, a bogus “wave of arson attacks of Black churches” was used. In 2000, it was bogus “racial profiling on the New Jersey Turnpike”. This time, it’s innocent Black kids murdered by White cops.

    Such hysterias, once unleashed, are hard to control and some Democrats, such as Emanuel, will be cut down by friendly fire.


    January 3, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    • Not so much a theory as Occam’s Razor at work. When you have the ability to do something beneficial for your cause without any chance of blow back no matter how manipulative (and given that the press is entirely in the back pocket of the Ds and the Rs are weaklings, that’s not a problem) one would need to be a fool not to do what you describe. This is much of what animates the anger directed at Trump, he’s willing to say the things Ds relied on Rs being too scared to say; such as mentioning Bill Clinton’s woman problem. I’m fairly certain a Romney or Rubio would go the entire election cycle without ever bringing it up no matter how hard they were lambasted for being anti-woman.


      January 3, 2016 at 8:38 pm

      • Curle,

        Good point. It is my observation that if something can be done, and would be beneficial to the person (or organization) doing it, then sooner or later, it will be done.


        January 4, 2016 at 9:35 am

    • The Trayvon Martin case was boiled up for the 2012 election. Ferguson was meant to help the Democrats in 2014, but the plan failed, and the furor over Ferguson is still lingering.


      January 3, 2016 at 10:50 pm

  11. At his core, Rahm Emmanuel a weird, anal nerd.

    As has been noted numerous times on this blog, NAMs don’t trust or respect this kind of person. Never will.

    Ham Bone

    January 3, 2016 at 7:16 pm

  12. Emanuel dug his own grave by (1) shutting down 50 public schools and (2) withholding the tape of the police shooting.

    Adrian Fenty of DC was also undone by “school reform.” White reform-minded liberals and their allies are obsessed with urban school reform. Most urban blacks and latinos don’t want school reform. They like their neighborhood schools and they like their school teachers. They are not concerned about achievement gap, high academic standards, college prep material, etc.


    January 3, 2016 at 8:22 pm

  13. OT, but funny. From the “black money management” files – single mother fast food worker in NC wins huge lottery and spins millions bailing her drug trafficking boyfriend out of jail… multiple times:


    January 3, 2016 at 8:41 pm

  14. My guess is it’s a primarily a local level thing. The coalition might not hold in Chicago. Especially if a black mayoral candidate comes up. Harold Washington where you be at?


    January 3, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    • The Republicans should try to find a brother to run for mayor.


      January 4, 2016 at 5:39 am

  15. OT. I see Obama is apparently looking at an executive order to legalize more illegal aliens? Presumably, he feels he’s got nothing to lose at this point and is concerned about Trump looking like a genuine threat. Apparently, even Democrat voters aren’t convinced Hillary can beat Trump.


    January 4, 2016 at 1:19 am

  16. Latinos are better Democrat team players than the blacks are. Look at the way all the Latino leaders supported Rahm and continue to support Hillary, even though Hillary is supporting Obama’s token removal of the fake refugees from South Carolina. Latino leaders understand that the DNC types are the boss and they know their place.

    That really isn’t the case with the blacks. As soon as they have the votes, they want a black rep, not a liberal white. They are constantly agitating and making trouble, even against white democrat mayors and governors.

    The problem with Latinos is that they punch below their weight. They don’t vote, they aren’t as into identity politics as blacks are, and even when they do vote they only vote for Dems at a 70 percent rate instead of a 90 percent rate.

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 4, 2016 at 5:49 am

    • A lot of latinos vote more like prole whites than like blacks. Many of them fear black crime as much as prole whites do. Smart Republicans could use black crime as a wedge to split latinos away from Democrats, but as you know the Republicans are wusses when it comes to doing anything the MSM has decided is politically incorrect.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 4, 2016 at 9:47 am

  17. Is the Democratic alliance fracturing?

    Where are they gonna go?


    January 4, 2016 at 6:49 am

  18. Hispanics are a long-term problem for the Democratic coalition, because they are not getting their due share of the power. Many Hispanics also have strong anti-black and anti-semitic beliefs, viz.

    bob sykes

    January 4, 2016 at 8:38 am

  19. In Baltimore an incompetent Democratic mayor and police leadership have black complexion.
    Is anybody calling for a change of power from business as usual?

    Racism among black voters is most certainly a real thing. Put a another black in charge of Chicago and it doesn’t matter if things are managed as badly as Detroit or Zimbabwe. The idiots will be pacified for a while until they latch onto another distraction from the real causes of the problems in their lives and communities.

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    January 4, 2016 at 6:35 pm

  20. I find it difficult to believe that anyone but the power elite actually like Rahm. Did he infiltrate Chicago as part of a S&R group (Sabotage & Reconnaissance) or was he actually elected?

    exomike (@exomike1)

    January 6, 2016 at 1:54 am

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