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Republican debate

There’s another debate tonight.

It can be watched for free on the internet, so my lack of cable TV will not prevent me from watching it.

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9:05 Maria Bartiromo asked the first question, She has much less of a prole NYC accent today than she did in the 1990s. (I lost track of what the question was, and Cruz’s answer was boring.)

9:17 Ben Carson passively aggressively whines about not getting a question until 17 minutes into the debate. Not very presidential.

9:20 In his first chance to speak, Donald Trump forcefully defends his anti-immigration philosophy.

9:26 Whoa, the guy from Fox is asking Cruz about his Canadian birth. Cruz supporters are probably furious.

9:32 The audience doesn’t seem to like Trump’s attack on Cruz’s Canadian birth problems.

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I admit that I tuned out the debate. But form what my impressions, Trump seemed more presidential than he had in any previous debate. I loved his answer about New York. The Drudge poll gives him a higher lead than in the previous debate. I think that Trump has won the nomination.

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And we have Some in the mainstream media agreeing that this was Trump’s best debate.

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At UK gambling sites, Trump’s lead over Rubio has increased since yesterday.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 14, 2016 at 6:43 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Trump missed the perfect opportunity to mention Cologne.


    January 14, 2016 at 9:24 pm

  2. Once you notice Rubio’s giant ears when he’s speaking, you can’t unsee it. Very distracting.

    Andrew E.

    January 14, 2016 at 9:58 pm

  3. “She has much less of a prole NYC accent today than she did in the 1990s.”

    She’s also nowhere near as hot as she once was,

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    January 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm

  4. Trump had a good response on “New York values.”

    Fire Dog

    January 14, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    • I’m not sure why it was good from a logical perspective. Everyone knows what Cruz was referring to – by “New York” he meant Manhattan and the power structure that operates from there, not ordinary NYers (even the liberal ones.) Cruz said that not many conservatives come out of Manhattan, which is just a statement of fact. Trump pretended that Cruz had insulted all NYers and then offered up the example of Bill Buckley as a conservative Manhattanite. Bill Buckley was from an UMC family, went to Yale, started a successful magazine and was world famous. Trump tried to spin what Cruz said.


      January 15, 2016 at 12:56 am

      • Regardless of what Cruz did or didn’t mean, he said “New York” and Trump effectively turned his words against him. Cruz was essentially shut down for the rest of the debate.

        I like Cruz and I don’t have a problem with what he said, but it was beyond obvious that Trump won the exchange with his rebuttal.

        Otis the Sweaty

        January 15, 2016 at 1:42 am

      • Who cares about Cruz? The guy isn’t eligible.

        Andrew E.

        January 15, 2016 at 9:12 am

      • @Maryk, clearly you have no idea what a debate is.


        January 15, 2016 at 9:42 am

      • Trump’s response was perfect. Cruz was trying to smear Trump by association, and Trump responded correctly that William F. Buckley lived, socialized, and based his business out of Manhattan. Trump also could have pointed out that many of the Fox News personalities, including at least one of the moderators, live and work out of Manhattan. He also could have noted that the man Conservatives consider their greatest President spent his life in uber liberal Hollywood.

        And whatever Conservatives may think of Manhattan, Trump was smart to defend his hometown because defending ones home is a value Conservative voters respect.


        January 15, 2016 at 11:06 am

      • Why should any of Lion’s NYC readers become offended?

        After all, Cruz could have read his blog, and make his point after scouring all the negative NAM and de Blasio comments.


        January 15, 2016 at 11:33 am

      • Cruz also said New Yorkers are “socially liberal”, which differs from the radical citizens of the Bay of Pigs (SF-Silicon Valley) who are socially conservative. The chances of finding White women in NYC parading a token black man is 100X more common than that of Apple-Google-Yahoo Kingdom.


        January 15, 2016 at 11:51 am

      • I was just reading about Buckley. He was born in Texas. Those guys are always complaining about picante sauce being made “in New York City!”


        January 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm

      • There’s picante sauce made here????

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 16, 2016 at 6:01 pm

      • @Lion. With all the offshoring, it’s probably all made in Mexico these days.


        January 16, 2016 at 6:56 pm

  5. They’re all complaining that tariffs on China would raise the cost of their products. Yeah, that’s the point. You want to make American manufacturing competitive. We can’t compete with slave wages. It’s win-win. Americans would buy the cheaper American products instead.


    January 14, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    • It may be a win for producers, but consumers would have to pay higher prices. Most of us don’t think paying higher prices is a “win.”


      January 15, 2016 at 9:41 am

      • People buy way too much junk as it is, because things are TOO cheap. Do we really need to be able to buy a men’s t-shirt at Walmart for $3.50 (an actual price)? You can go into any house in America, and there will be piles of clothing that nobody wears. Why can’t that t-shirt be made in America and sold for $12? So you’ll only have 5 t-shirts more than you need instead of 20, but some Americans will have jobs. (Well, if it happened now, some Mexicans would have jobs.)

        The other side is corporate profits. Apple employees something like 300,000 people in China. If they employed them in America, would iPhones cost more? Maybe. Or maybe Apple would just make less. What the hell is wrong with that?

        This obsession with “consumers demand the cheapest prices!” is just neo-liberal spin designed to get you to sell out your nation so you can have more useless crap in your house.


        January 15, 2016 at 9:59 am

      • I heard Trump in a townhall a couple months ago talk about if anyone remembered that we used to buy toys for our children that were made in America. He said it could be like that again, and that maybe toys would cost a little more but they would be better made, made by our own people, and maybe it isn’t such a bad thing that we buy a lot less plastic crap from China.

        Andrew E.

        January 15, 2016 at 10:55 am

      • Which do you prefer?

        1. You pay higher prices, so an fellow American worker can get paid, and thus can afford to buy something from you, so you keep your job.

        2. You pay a lower price, and then your fellow American worker is out of a job, so he can’t afford to buy anything from you. The Chinese slave worker can’t afford to buy anything from you either. Ultimately, you are out of a job because nobody can afford to buy anything from you.

        I don’t remember prices being “too high” back when America didn’t buy cheap crap from China.


        January 15, 2016 at 10:55 am

      • Higher prices on what, cheap Walmart shit? Good.

        Social Reject

        January 15, 2016 at 10:59 am

      • I don’t think it’s a “win” if you can buy really cheap crap but you are unemployed and your children don’t have a future.

        Mike Street Station

        January 15, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      • Those consumers are going to be paying higher prices for *American* products. When you buy American products, you create American jobs. More jobs means a tighter labor market. A tighter labor market means more demand for workers which would produce higher wages and more opportunities for Americans who work paycheck to paycheck. If people are making more money, they can afford higher prices for those products.

        The economy would be fantastic if we reduced legal and illegal immigration and instituted some sort of policy of fair trade. These 2 policies would use market forces to redistribute wealth. It doesn’t matter how much prices for consumer goods go up so long as wealth inequality declines. When regular people have a larger slice of the economic pie, slightly higher prices won’t matter. And if you’re paying higher prices for American products, that means you’re creating higher paying jobs for Americans. Higher prices is a win so long as higher wages is even higher.


        January 15, 2016 at 4:01 pm

  6. Jeb Bush said the Muslim Kurds are our allies against ISIS, therefore we need to open our borders to Muslims immigrants from all over the world so the Kurds don’t get cross with us.

    Then again, the Kurds are fighting to establish an ethnically coherent state exclusively for the Kurdish people. If any group would sympathize with our not wanting unassimilable aliens flooding into our country, it should be the Kurds.

    Mark Caplan

    January 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm

  7. “When the World Trade Center came down, I saw something that no place on earth could have handled more beautifully, more humanely than New York. You had two 110-story buildings come crashing down, I saw them come down, thousands of people killed, and the cleanup started the next day, and it was the most horrific cleanup, probably in the history of doing this, and in construction, I was down there. And I’ve never seen anything like it. And the people in New York fought, and fought, and fought, and we saw more death and even the smell of death, nobody understood it, and it was with us for months, the smell. the air. And we rebuilt downtown Manhattan, and everybody in the world watched, and everybody in the world loved New York, and loved New Yorkers, and I have to tell you, that was a very insulting statement that Ted made.”

    — Donald Trump


    January 14, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    • Oh my God, he needs to go easy on Cruz from here on out.

      I still want Cruz to keep his political career as the junior Senator from Texas.


      January 15, 2016 at 12:55 pm

  8. Quick summary of closing statements:

    Kasich: i forgot what he said, must not have been important
    Bush: I have detailed plans ….. zzzzzz
    Christie: America is being flushed down the toilet….
    Carson: Did he say something? I must have missed it
    Rubio: Obama wants to destroy America … and Hillary will too.
    Cruz: Bengazi! Terrorism!
    Trump: Elect me president and we will win on everything

    Trump has a simple, clear message.


    January 14, 2016 at 11:51 pm

  9. OT:

    An hour-long public radio show about one of the Lion’s fave topics, a guaranteed income. One of the proponents literally says the taxpayers should pay people to play video games and upload YouTube videos of themselves playing their amateur music.


    January 14, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    • Must have been reading my blog!

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 15, 2016 at 12:35 am

      • I really think that a lot of people are secretly reading alt-Right blogs, dude.


        January 15, 2016 at 1:11 am

      • I’m pretty sure Albert Wenger doesn’t read your blog.

        Dave Pinsen

        January 15, 2016 at 2:07 am

    • Oh no! Forced labour and flogging is what they need.


      January 15, 2016 at 5:51 am

  10. Trump brings up a very good point about Ted Cruz’s candidacy: if there is any doubt that Cruz is actually eligible to run for president, then the Democrats will definitely bring a strategic lawsuit against him if he either wins the nomination or is selected as a vice-president running-mate.

    Trump mentions that even Laurence Tribe has his doubts over whether Ted Cruz can run.

    Remember, Cruz is not Obama and Republicans do not control the legal system.


    January 15, 2016 at 12:21 am

    • Yes. If Cruz had Trump’s sense of strategy, he would quietly have gotten this issue out of the way months ago by a court judgement. But I don’t think he has.


      January 15, 2016 at 4:56 am

  11. Natural born citizens aren’t born on foreign soil. They’re born on American soil to American parents. In fact, Congress retroactively changed the laws so that children of American military personnel serving overseas would be considered natural born citizens. Otherwise McCain wouldn’t have been eligible either. This isn’t just politics. This is a serious issue that gets to the heart of citizenship. If a country doesn’t control who is and isn’t a citizen and what that means then it doesn’t mean anything and it is no longer a country.


    January 15, 2016 at 12:38 am

    • Wasn’t McCain born in the Canal Zone? At the time, that was American territory (and still should be, but we gave it away). McCain was not born in a foreign country like Ted Cruz was.


      January 15, 2016 at 1:21 am

    • The term “natural born” citizen comes from English common law.

      The laws passed by Congress and in effect when Cruz was born made him an automatic US citizen at birth. It you believe in a living interpretation of the constitution, this means Curz is a natural born citizen and eligible to run.

      If you are an originalist (and Ted Cruz is) then the question is what did the term “natural born citizen” mean to the authors of the constitution., The term “natural born citizen” comes from English common law and that is probably what the founders mean by it.

      Now exactly what it means or meant in English common law at the time is a bit murky. Prior to the 18th century English common law was clear that you had to be born in England to be a natural born citizen. If you were born overseas to English parents you had to be naturalized to be a English citizen. In the 18th century Parliament passed laws granting citizenship at birth to children born abroad if their father was a natural born English citizen. That was the law in effect in England at the time the constitution was written.

      The question is, did the authors intend the traditional English common law meaning of “natural born citizen” or did they intend the meaning as expanded by the 18th century English Parliament?

      If you are an originalist like Ted Curz and you believe they meant the modified 18th century meaning, then technically Ted Cruz is still not eligible because that would only apply if his father was a natural born US citizen. Now you could claim some mixed originalist/living interpretation and claim in the 21st century it must be either father or mother is a US citizen, and then claim Curz is natural born.

      Some legal scholars have pointed at the writings of the authors of the constitution to claim that by “natural born citizen” they meant the older common law meaning that you had to be born in the US.

      This is only a straight forward legal question if you believe in a living interpretation of the constitution.


      January 15, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      • In england, one is a ‘subject’, not a citizen. An English man owed the crown duties such as taxes and fighting for the country should war be declared. So it was in the interests of england to expand the definition of subject. The crown owed nothing to its subject but the ‘rights of englishmen’ defined by common law. So even if the founders modeled their ideas on who is a citizen, there’s something of an apples and oranges comparison here.

        Citizenship, otoh, bestows many rights and entiltlements, and it should be in the american interest to keep the definition as narrow as possible. My 2 cents.


        January 15, 2016 at 4:03 pm

  12. I haven’t been watching debates lately, but this time I listened to the whole thing. All of the candidates did well, even Bush. Thus I don’t really expect things to shake up too much. Cruz has developed into a much more powerful debater, but he also had to fend off a lot of attacks. Rubio wasn’t as strong as he had been. With Fiorina off of the main stage there are a few points of establishment voters available. I would have thought that they would all go to Rubio, but after tonight I think that we’ll see a more even split. Cruz seems to have peaked. I believe that he will be a close second in Iowa.


    January 15, 2016 at 1:22 am

  13. Perhaps viewing on a small screen made watching painful? Note quite the same as a 60″ HD.


    January 15, 2016 at 3:21 am

  14. Maria Bartiromo. Good genes. Pure skin, teeth, hair. Unquestionably a Mediterranean beauty. Smart enough. Comes from solid, striving, prole stock. No children. What a waste. All her riches and fame cannot compensate for this loss to her and society.


    January 15, 2016 at 5:24 am

    • Daniel, I agree with you, but I don’t think Lion is going to regret the failure of anyone to pass on his “guido” genes! And right now, JS is probably writing a post about how Maria’s childlessness is all for the best, since there’s a good chance she’s a genetic aberration and her children (although half-Jewish from their father’s side) would revert back to guido prole norms.


      January 15, 2016 at 9:50 am

    • Just another victim/citizen brainwashed by liberalism, like most Meriprolesses:

      Here Maria with NYU’s John Sexton (a crook) and of course, you know who is that big doofus grinning there, who is also an NYU grad.


      January 15, 2016 at 10:36 am

    • Bartiromo is a shrieking yenta. I don’t know why they let her on TV so much. They should at least not let her talk so much. That grating, high pitched, nasally whine is awful to listen to. She also has a big Roman nose, as can be seen in the picture above. She should have had her schnozz shaved down a bit. That might have also fixed her nasally, whiny voice. If not, she should have gotten voice lessons as well.


      January 15, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    • She’s used to be hotter. She’s hit the wall.


      January 15, 2016 at 1:42 pm

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