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Bernie should be respected for standing up to Big Banks and Goldman Sachs, and Medicare for everyone sounds like a good ideal, but he’s a total putz for pandering to minorities, Muslims, and global warmists.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 17, 2016 at 11:13 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Sanders finally brought it tonight. I would have to vote him over Trump if he won the nomination, which actually seems like an outside possibility now. If only we had an economic populist and social/cultural conservative, but such a person will probably never rise to prominence in the US.

    chairman

    January 17, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    • I watched it last night.

      Something about Hillary’s approach is just wrong, She kept defending more of the same, while Bernie and O’Malley kept offering goodies.

      Who wants Debbie downer when they can get Santa Claus?

      Even when Hillary’s right she loses., For example fighting the health care again would take another to years, be very contentious, and might not be better with the Republicans in Congress. But saying this to the Democrats, she sounded like grandma who wolnt let your kids have candy. These are Democrat voters, they don’t respond to this type of argument!

      Hillary needs to tighten up her message. Right now she looks really weak.

      Rotten

      January 18, 2016 at 8:44 pm

  2. I could have sworn that Sanders was going to deal with the contaminated water problem in Michigan by saying the following

    “I’m the only candidate who has taken steps to deal with the high level of lead in our drinking water. I’m so concerned about this issue that as a symbolic gesture I’ve even removed the lead from my no. 2 pencils…….”

    OK, it wasn’t that funny. But in person I do a really good Sanders impersonation! Being a native Brooklynite I can easily replicate his accent.

    On a serious note, I think Hillary did really well, Sanders did well also. And Gov. O’Malley wasn’t given enough time to speak.

    Maryk

    January 17, 2016 at 11:24 pm

  3. So true. But if Bernie did not speak out for muzzies, darkies, pole smokers, and tree huggers he would just be a 21st century Father Coughlin.

    A populist that championed the little (white) guy over the Powers That Be is not serious at all. Plus he is Evil!

    pat

    January 17, 2016 at 11:38 pm

  4. The trouble with “Medicare for everyone” is that Medicare revenues cover only a quarter of Medicare spending. That works as long as only 15 to 18 percent of the population is on Medicare and the rest of the spending comes from the general fund.

    linsee

    January 18, 2016 at 1:00 am

    • Medicare is more efficient (it doesn’t skim off revenues as “profit,” nor entice people with marketing). So the problem is on the spending side. Perhaps people demand too much health care, not that I know a lot of people who have biopsies and colonoscopies for fun.

      Anthony

      January 18, 2016 at 8:58 am

      • Medicare for everyone would work if America were full of Norwegians and we had someone like Trump running the government, keeping the program in line. In reality though, the medical system would soon devolve into one of the circles of Hell. No thanks.

        Andrew E.

        January 18, 2016 at 10:13 am

      • Welfare would be for everyone, if Meriprolestan wasn’t also NAMGhettostan and El Barrio!

        JS

        January 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm

      • A more efficient operation could have low enough costs to skim profit and still be less expensive than Medicare. I’m not saying Medicare IS less efficient than private insurance, only that whether the provider makes a profit is irrelevant to any argument in favor of Medicare; either it’s cheaper or it isn’t.

        J1

        January 18, 2016 at 4:09 pm

  5. Lord, what a choice the Democrats provide. One is a Criminal Bolshevik and the other is a Bolshevik Criminal. Two candidates who have been waging war on white people all of their lives.

    Sure, Sanders wants to extend Medicare…to the entire planet…after letting the rest of the planet into the United States. Great deal.

    They both deserve to lose.

    map

    January 18, 2016 at 8:50 am

    • Believe it or not, Sanders actually has a history of being critical of Open Borders. He’s advocating scaling back on all immigration because it causes wage depression. He’s the only Democratic/leftist candidate to ever mention the connection between wages and immigration, AFAIK.

      In office be better on immigration than Hilary, FWIW.

      Camlost

      January 18, 2016 at 10:04 am

      • “Believe it or not, Sanders actually has a history of being critical of Open Borders.”

        That’s true, but at this point irrelevant. Sander’s has been taken to the woodshed on several issues, immigration, BLM, and guns. He’s adapted his positions to now fit what the rest of the party wants. So for all practical purposes, Bernie is as open borders as the rest of them. The difference is he knows why it’s bad.

        Mike Street Station

        January 18, 2016 at 12:40 pm

      • “Believe it or not, Sanders actually has a history of being critical of Open Borders. He’s advocating scaling back on all immigration because it causes wage depression. He’s the only Democratic/leftist candidate to ever mention the connection between wages and immigration, AFAIK.”

        Prior to recent times the left in general, and union leaders in particular, generally opposed large scale immigration because it depressed wages and provided employers with a large pool of non-union workers. In fact, left-wing icon Caesar Chavez routinely referred to Mexican illegals who served as strikebreakers as “wetbacks.” In addition Chinese immigrants known as “coolies” who worked out West were beaten by union workers about 100 years or so ago because they lowered wages and took away jobs.

        Lewis Medlock

        January 18, 2016 at 1:30 pm

      • Cesar Chavez was easily the most rabid opponent of illegal immigration in the lifetime of anyone reading this blog, and politically he makes Sanders look like Ronald Reagan.

        J1

        January 18, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    • As this post demonstrates, Lion and much of the alt-right scene has abandoned the affinity for individualism and liberty and skepticism of government and socialism that has characterized the American right for ages. The alt-right has no philosophical dispute with redistribution of wealth or the welfare state, they just want to make sure wealth is redistributed to white people. The alt-right is not a reactionary or conservative movement, or a radical movement, it just seeks to turn white people into an interest group with its hand out, modeling whites on blacks, gays, and feminists who seek to use the overwhelming power of government to seize some other people’s freedoms and property for their own benefit. The left has killed the old America, and the alt right is just another of the jackals hoping to get a good share of the corpse.

      Gozo

      January 18, 2016 at 11:30 am

      • A welfare state couldn’t redistribute wealth to whites as a group because nonwhites create very little excess wealth that could be taken away and redistributed. Middle class whites working in the private sector generally merely get benefits from government that they’ve already paid for with their taxes. To the extent the alt-right wants to prevent this tax money from being siphoned off and given to non-whites, they are on the right side but they are deluded if they think that whites as a group would benefit from a welfare state. Welfare for whites wouldn’t have the same devastating effect that it does when you give it to low IQ blacks but it would still cause slow motion societal collapse.

        Mark

        January 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm

      • Eh, “redistribution to white people” is way better than what we’ve got, which is “redistribution from white people”.

        Tarl

        January 18, 2016 at 5:59 pm

      • True, but if we’re going to be a welfare state where goodies are doled out to ethnic groups, why shouldn’t white people get their share of the pie?

        SFG

        January 18, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      • “Individualism and liberty” being incompatible with the welfare state and an activist government is a bogus piece of libertarian ideology. In fact, the welfare state along with union protections IMPROVE individual liberty when the phrase is defined in any reasonable way.

        chairman

        January 18, 2016 at 6:39 pm

      • Welfare for whites wouldn’t have the same devastating effect that it does when you give it to low IQ blacks but it would still cause slow motion societal collapse.

        Anglo-Sphere Whites have a lower quality of life, when compared to welfare titting Spaniards and Italians.

        JS

        January 19, 2016 at 1:45 pm

  6. Well said, Lion. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Bernie should put this quote on his campaign posters … truth in advertising (maybe he could put the good part in slightly larger typeface).

    Greg Pandatshang

    January 18, 2016 at 11:01 am

  7. Whenever the screen was split between Hillary and Bernie, the camera on Bernie seemed to be 5′ closer to him than it was to Hillary, and it’s definitely not because he’s bigger than she is. It made him look weird and he looked frustrated too often. If you watched the debate with no sound, you would have concluded that Hillary was the winner. In other words, Hillary was the winner.

    Robert

    January 18, 2016 at 11:31 am

    • I noticed that he seemed to have this Huge Head.

      Mrs Stitch

      January 18, 2016 at 4:38 pm

  8. Bernie should be respected for standing up to Big Banks and Goldman Sachs,

    I heard radio clips of the debate this morning. While I haven’t listened to all of it (and won’t), I still maintain that, though he was energetic last night, he loses the nomination to Hillary because he refuses to fight dirty.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    January 18, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    • So, kinda the Democrat Mitt Romney then?

      Tarl

      January 18, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    • So, kinda the Democrat Mitt Romney then?

      Similar, and also without Romney’s ambition. The fact Hillary has yet to really tear into him shows she thinks he will ultimately fade because Sanders is only there to hear himself talk.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      January 18, 2016 at 9:28 pm

  9. If you took out minorities, Muslims, and global warmists, who would even be left in the Democratic coalition?

    Tarl

    January 18, 2016 at 5:57 pm

  10. The pro-libertarians in Vermont were OK with a public (they call it common) option as long as the numbers worked and there was movement towards non-tax funding. They like Bernie personally because he was very nice to Libertarians and learned from them in the old days and even ran as one at one point. Yet Bernie couldn’t deliver in a state of 1 MM people even with soft pro-libertarian encouragement, as they saw the numbers just don’t work as he wanted to do it.

    How is he going to make it happen with 330 MM people if it can’t work for 1 MM?

    Plus Medicaid is the better approach and more stable.

    Robert

    January 19, 2016 at 3:18 am


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