Lion of the Blogosphere

Bonefish Grill

Excellent food. Manhattan people definitely underappreciate chain restaurants.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 20, 2016 at 11:09 pm

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  1. I’ve eaten there before. It’s very good. I was surprised at how good it was. I thought it’d be mediocre like a lot of chain restaurants. A lot of chain restaurants are very bland and taste the same. But there are some good ones out there.


    January 20, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    • It’s an upscale chain restaurant. Houston’s is another one, that also has excellent food (there are two outposts of it in Manhattan, but they changed their names to that of the holding company, Hillstone).

      Dave Pinsen

      January 20, 2016 at 11:56 pm

      • Because New Yorkers all hate Texas?


        January 21, 2016 at 6:51 am

      • There are great Bonefish Grills in Destin and Pensacola, FL


        January 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm

      • Because New Yorkers all hate Texas?

        I don’t think so: there are Texas barbecue places in New York, and of course, there’s a Houston Street (though it’s pronounced differently in New York). Hillstone wanted to get more name recognition for its holding company ahead of an eventual IPO.

        Dave Pinsen

        January 21, 2016 at 4:54 pm

      • The “Palm Beach Grille” on Palm Beach is also a Houston’s outpost…

        Vladivostok 2000

        January 23, 2016 at 12:05 am

  2. Bang Bang shrimp are extremely tasty, but contain a calorie count that borders on the absurd.

    Your Cardiologist

    January 21, 2016 at 12:40 am

  3. I always preferred to prepare my own food. I don’t like people I don’t know handling things I’m going to eat. A lot of these places hire illegals with all kinds of diseases. I also don’t like eating in public surrounded by strangers. I prefer the convenience and privacy of my own home. I did, however, go to three places for take out. One was a mission burrito shop. Another was a BBQ joint. And the third was fried chicken from Food Giant. Dammit! It just occurred to me that I forgot to get fried chicken on the 18th. It’s sort of my own private protest.


    January 21, 2016 at 12:46 am

  4. Is Benihana prole?


    January 21, 2016 at 2:14 am

    • Yes, extremely. I suspect Tyler Cowen would get an aneurism if you forced him into a Benihana.

      Peter Akuleyev

      January 21, 2016 at 9:00 am

      • Sishi is prole, and only the most exquisite and pricey Japanese eateries are not. Most raw fish eateries are surprisingly, at the helm of the chineyman and not the Japanese.


        January 21, 2016 at 1:31 pm

      • That would be fun to see.


        January 21, 2016 at 3:39 pm

      • Historically, sushi was always fast-food-like fare for the working class. It was the more elaborately-prepared cuisine that was for the rich.


        January 22, 2016 at 1:21 am

    • It didn’t use to be. When it first came out in the 80’s it was fairly trendy and yuppiefied. Now that it is old and tired it is mostly frequented by high nams.


      January 21, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    • There’s a great episode of “The Office” that covers that one.


      January 21, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    • I was not able to find a Tyler Cowen post on Benihana, but Stephen J. Dubner mentioned it on the FREAKONOMICS blog in an amusingly snobbish way:

      The other night, we took our kids to dinner at their favorite restaurant: the Benihana in midtown Manhattan. The food isn’t very good but it’s great spectacle: the chef cooks at your table, the Shirley Temples come with lots of cherries and paper umbrellas, and since the tables are communal, you’re always seated next to some strangers.

      The people at our table were from Fairfield, Ct. At the next table was a group of four middle-aged women from the Dominican Republic and four young women from the Bronx.


      January 22, 2016 at 12:53 am

  5. What many anti-food chain youngsters don’t get is that the chains give us the luxury foods and dainties of past times. They’ve become bland because of overuse. Stay away for a while and they’re new again, or go on a diet like I grew up with in FDR’s time and sugar was reserved for invalids.

    I remember when McDonald’s type sweet-bun burgers or St. Louis style shakes and Pizza were special and exotic. Then the chains came (like McDonald’s) and everyone began eating them weekly. 47 cents for a 3-course meal was sensational to get fries better than France and burgers previously seen in only society-ladies teas IN 60 SECONDS. Chain restaurants were a big thing 2 decades ago as they offered a wider menu and international variety that have since become ‘mediocre’ from availability. Personally, I’m amazed I can go down the street for Chinese food better than China, expresso better than Italy, and order a tasty fusion meal with dim-sum, gazpacho, chicken wings, whiskey-flavored steak, and Florida Key Lime pie (Friday’s, menu varies with region and specials) and people tell me it’s big-chain mediocre.

    So predictably we see a periodic counter-movement where the staid, dull foods of the past are now thought to be exotic and better-tasting. People go oooooooh over boysenberry pies, meatloaf, rough breads, and organic simple salads.

    Don’t get me started on the extreme leftist campaign to convince us that hygienic, plentiful, high-calorie foods are inherently unhealthy. They complained capitalism would starve you, now they say it makes poor people fat gluttons. Americans are enjoying themselves for a generation or two after a century of terror produced by the extreme left.

    Eventually we’ll design a hamburger that raises your IQ, lifespan, and makes you look like Clark Gable. Control freaks of left or right will cry doom.


    January 21, 2016 at 5:39 am

    • “Eventually we’ll design a hamburger that raises your IQ, lifespan, and makes you look like Clark Gable. Control freaks of left or right will cry doom.”

      Haha, you’re probably right. Women and children hit hardest!


      January 21, 2016 at 11:04 am

    • T.G.I. Friday’s is prole.


      January 21, 2016 at 1:03 pm

      • Hot asian/white waitress at Friday’s in Marina Del Rey really got down. ‘Course, that was 1987.


        January 21, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    • I’m not an anti-chain snob, and I agree that people are spoiled from the wide availability of food now. But there are chains that are better than others, and many chains that are bland and taste all the same. Carrabba’s for example is a lot better than Olive Garden.

      I also agree that a lot of the trendy non-chain restaurants basically serve bad poor people’s food from a few generations ago like bland, rough breads and salads. These are food poor people had to eat because they couldn’t afford more refined and richer food.


      January 21, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    • clark gable? fdr? how old are you?


      January 21, 2016 at 11:02 pm

  6. Looks like Hillary’s campaign is on the rocks. Donald Trump destroyed both the Bush and Clinton political dynasties in less than 6 months.


    January 21, 2016 at 8:01 am

  7. It’s funny you mention that: I had never heard of BfG until a few days ago, when I was driving past one with a friend and he pointed out to me what an unappealing name it has, making him never want to eat there.

    Greg Pandatshang

    January 21, 2016 at 8:12 am

  8. Lion, are you going to visit the new Chick-Fil-A that opened in Manhattan?


    January 21, 2016 at 8:38 am

    • It’s on my to do list.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 21, 2016 at 10:06 am

      • You’ll enjoy it. On a recent road trip, my friends and I – we all despise fast good – stopped there as a “guilty pleasure”. My takeaway was that the food was pretty good and, unlike most fast food, it doesn’t make you sick!


        January 21, 2016 at 10:26 am

      • My takeaway was that the food was pretty good and, unlike most fast food, it doesn’t make you sick!

        That’s how I felt about Chipotle for the longest time.

        Lloyd Llewellyn

        January 22, 2016 at 2:41 am

    • My takeaway was that the food was pretty good and, unlike most fast food, it doesn’t make you sick!

      I don’t eat chicken, but I ate the breakfast at one in Georgia once when I was there for a breakfast meeting, and I had liquidity issues soon after. But could have been caused by something else.

      Dave Pinsen

      January 21, 2016 at 10:13 pm

  9. i like cracker barrel a lot.

    james n.s.w

    January 21, 2016 at 9:36 am

    • Lowest of the low prole.

      I ate there once on a road trip, and on the way out left a massively stinky fart in the lobby as a fitting commentary on the cuisine.


      January 22, 2016 at 12:02 am

      • >eating at cracker barrel
        >taking a massive fart to indicate disapproval

        james n.s.w

        January 24, 2016 at 12:32 pm

  10. Chains are chains because they’re better than most other restaurants. The very best restaurants are independents, but that’s a small group at the top of the business; most indie restaurants are awful, not to mention disgustingly, sometimes even dangerously unsanitary.

    The Lion will love Chick-Fil-A. It’ll be interesting to see how long it is before they’re all over NYC. The girl in the video where that irony impaired asshole berates her because of the chain founder’s remarks about gay marriage is not anomalous – their employees really are that courteous and well behaved, at least at every Chick-Fil-A I’ve ever been to.


    January 21, 2016 at 10:42 am

    • I’ve been to Chik Fil As in the South and Midwest, and it is uncanny how pleasant the employees are.


      January 21, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    • Chick Fil A gets a TON of Mormon youth as workers since they’re always closed on Sunday, thus you see pleasant, well-mannered white workers. If you have 3 Mormons in your town they will probably all work at CFA in their teens before moving away.


      January 21, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      • I’m not so sure. CFA’s executives are Christian fundamentalists, a group at doctrinal loggerheads with Mormons. It probably would be improper for Mormons to work for the company.



        January 23, 2016 at 9:44 am

    • You might be right — I’ve been to an independent eatery in NYC run by a bunch of loony liberals. They hire a few black chefs and a heavy set, unattractive, black woman who greets White patrons, to their surprise!


      January 24, 2016 at 3:27 pm

  11. Here in the snowy Upper Midwest, we’re a lot farther from the ocean than you are, but I’ve eaten at our local BfG and found it very good. The fact that you like it raises it even more in my estimation.

    What do you think the chances are that Hillary gets indicted?

    Black Death

    January 21, 2016 at 12:16 pm

  12. I agree that Bonefish is great. Everything that I have had there is high quality. I find that their Sea Bass with the Asian soy marinade is the best. We have one here in Flyover, PA and you can’t get near the place after 5:00 pm. It’s always packed.


    January 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm

  13. Chain eateries are prole, and thus non-NAM Manhattanites, avoid them like the plague and 99 cents pizza shops.


    January 21, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    • With the exception of a few like Chipotle…


      January 21, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    • Panera Bread and Noodles & Co. are no prole zones.


      January 21, 2016 at 9:45 pm

      • They do have a Panera Bread in Staten Island-Guido Land.

        Just remember that not all of Staten Island are guidos, despite being a force to reckon with. Hispanics and blacks are found in significant numbers.


        January 24, 2016 at 3:31 pm

  14. Never heard of it.

    Reeks of prole.

    Will avoid.


    January 21, 2016 at 1:35 pm

  15. I went to Bonefish Grill on Staten Island, of all places. Yes, it was excellent.


    January 21, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    • It’s now closed. Guidos are harder to please when it comes to food. They aren’t big on chain food like most proles, and their ethnocentricism means only eating Italian as 1st priority.


      January 21, 2016 at 6:18 pm

      • JS, where do you get this information from? From what I’ve seen, IAs are quite fond of chain restaurants. In fact, in the last 1970’s, the most successful McDonald’s in NYC was located on 86st and 23 avenue in Bath Beach – and in this era, Bath Beach was an IA neighborhood. This info was provided by one of my high school teachers during that time – he must have read it in the newspaper. As for what kinds of regular restaurants they go to, I see many who will go to Italian places, but usually because they’re closest – not because of ethnocentricity. And of course, there are IAs who never would go to an Italian restaurant because they know the fare can’t compare to home cooked Italian food.


        January 21, 2016 at 10:59 pm

      • For the record, the best home cooked meals I’ve had have been Italian by Italians. Better than most restaurants too.


        January 22, 2016 at 4:29 am

      • MaryK, I think we all know exactly where JS pulls all of his information from.


        January 22, 2016 at 9:01 am

      • MaryK — IAs are just as fond as others when it comes to eating at chains? I can bet you that chain restaurants in Staten Island fare poorly when compared to other prole areas of Greater Meriprolestan.

        Old timer Jews are fond of Chinese food (because Jewish food is bleh…), blacks and to a certain extent Hispanics, are big on McDonald’s, and now you’re telling me that your fella goomba proles, who are neither serious patrons of Chinese restaurants nor hamburgers, eat at chains, just as frequently as NAMs.

        There was once a joke about IAs from a IA comedian, that Italians don’t “eat out”, because they are cheap and they eat very well at home.


        January 22, 2016 at 11:24 am

      • JS says guidos don’t eat out and cites an unnamed comedian. I have a pop culture cite of my own that suggests just the opposite: the famous movie _Mean Streets_ in which the Italian-American characters are obsessed with eating Chinese food.


        January 22, 2016 at 9:41 pm

      • Yes, an unnamed comedian.

        My point is that guidos eat at non-Italian restaurants less frequently than other proles. And this is very true when it comes to chains.

        Italianos are also pro-small business, given the fact that they are one of the main purveyors of them. Italian Americans are a success story, when it comes to being that self made, provincial-minded, entrepreneur.

        Staten Island and chain restaurants…perfect together?

        Just read the comment sections….


        January 23, 2016 at 11:14 am

    • I’m surprised there’s a Bonefish Grill in Staten Island. I thought that was more Red Lobster territory.


      January 22, 2016 at 12:54 pm

  16. Gavin McInnes says all the women in Manhattan are rail thin and all the dudes are 6 foot two. Is that true? Do you have to be that tall to make it there?


    January 21, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    • The dudes are not taller than average.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 21, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    • I don’t know the answer, but when you watch a Yankee game on TV, you can get that impression.

      West Coast IA

      January 22, 2016 at 12:02 am

      • I would say Northeasterners on average, are taller than their Left Coast counterparts. I noticed East Asians in particular, are quite short in their part of the world in the Pacific Ocean.


        January 23, 2016 at 11:52 am

  17. that reminds me lion, are you still cooking hot dogs in bulk?


    January 21, 2016 at 3:53 pm

  18. Leon — I’d like to see a post on your adventures in shopping and cooking. How is your cooking coming along? What have you learned and what kinds of things do you make?


    January 21, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    • I gave up on cooking. Very boring activity.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 21, 2016 at 8:23 pm

      • The first time you cook something from a recipe it is a challenge and an adventure, and if it turns out well your spouse will be all excited and appreciative. The second time you cook something it is like working in a factory, especially if you have to do the dishes yourself (hey, where did that appreciative spouse go?)


        January 22, 2016 at 9:07 am

  19. We’ve gone to the local Bonefish Grill and like it very much. As another comment noted, the Bang Bang Shrimp is superb, calorific or not.
    Which brings up a related point. Many chain restaurants emphasize quantity as much as quality (yes, you, Ch**s*c*k* F*ct*ry), serving massive portions of food. Bonefish does not, choosing instead to serve normal-sized portions of excellent food. P.F. Chang’s is another very good chain that follows much the same practice.



    January 21, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    • Right! Cheesecake is people.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 21, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    • Large portions and efficient bartenders – two things you don’t have to worry about at Chang’s, LOL.

      West Coast IA

      January 22, 2016 at 12:06 am

  20. When Warren Buffett married Astrid Menks in 2006, they and the wedding guests dined at Bonefish in Omaha.

    August LV

    January 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm

  21. I am currently nailing a coworker babe I went to Bonefish with FWIW, YMMV…


    January 21, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    • We just call it the Bone Grill now.


      January 22, 2016 at 4:31 am

  22. Popeyes is an above-average chain and it attracts more NAMs than any other group. Bojangles’ is a southern-based chain that is equivalent to Popeyes.

    Lewis Medlock

    January 25, 2016 at 11:05 am

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