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Virginia Tech update

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The 13-year-old victim was stabbed to death.

The 19-year-old girl, Natalie, is being charged with “accessory before the fact,” which means she allegedly helped him or incited him to murder the victim.

This crime doesn’t make sense to me. Unless, as one commenter suggested, Natalie was the psychopathic mastermind and the guy was following orders because he was smitten by her. In which case, knowing about “game” and avoiding “oneitis” would have saved the guy from getting involved in this and spending his life in prison.

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More info at the Daily Mail.

1. “Court documents accuse Natalie Keepers of being involved in the crime between January 4 and January 27.”

2. “Eisenhauer stands charged with first-degree murder in Nicole’s death, and told cops according to his arrest warrant that ‘I believe the truth will set me free’.”

So Eisenhauer believes he’s innocent?

My theory is that Eisenhaur is innocent, and that law enforcement assumes he must be guilty because he’s 18 and the victim is 13. And my theory is that Natalie’s involvement is merely that she also exchanged some electronic communications with the victim.

Or course, this is based on absolutely no information about why the police think they are guilty. If the police have a bloody knife with the Eisenhauer’s fingerprints on it, and I knew that, then obviously I’d have a different opinion.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 3, 2016 at EDT am

Posted in Crime

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  1. “Unless, as one commenter suggested, Natalie was the psychopathic mastermind and the guy was following orders because he was smitten by her.”

    yeah, the lady macbeth theory is always possible, women love to manipulate men — but usually when this happens, the lady macbeth character is hotter, and the dude seems to be weaker and less cocky.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT am

  2. I’m seeing some similarities in this case to the case of that psychopathic girl who talked her online “boyfriend” into committing suicide, and is now on trial for accessory to murder for it (since, well, she didn’t actually murder him or have him killed). I don’t remember her name or the victim’s. As I recall, they met in real life only once or twice and yet his whole world revolved around her. Roissy commented extensively on her.

    Reasons that suggest Keepers, not Eisenhauer, was the alpha in this relationship and quite possibly the mastermind of the murder:

    1: Keepers was older, by a year. In the teenage years, an age gap of one year can be hugely significant in terms of relative maturity, ability to dominate and lead, etc.

    2: If the mugshots are accurate, Keepers is a fair bit more attractive than Eisenhauer. Eisenhauer is an average guy at best, Keepers is (facially alone) a solid seven to eight. Generally the more attractive partner holds more power.

    3: Eisenhauer, a competitive runner, is not your stereotypical alpha-jock. While serious cross-country members are higher-ranking than blobs who don’t exercise, they are not chick magnets like the quarterback, basketball center, or even water polo star.

    There’s really very few natural alpha guys who can effortlessly pull most of the women who catch their eye. Having that kind of success takes well above-average looks, money and power, charisma, or (best yet) two or more of the above. Without any evidence to the contrary, I am going to assume Eisenhauer has none of those things. Many tough-luck betas will do almost anything for a reasonably attractive gal.

    Martin L.

    February 3, 2016 at EDT am

    • You see a 7 or 8, I see a 4.


      February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

  3. According to the Washington Post, 37% of Cruz’s support was first time caucus goers, 43% of Rubios and 57% of Trumps.

    So Cruz brought in 19,500 new voters, Rubio 18,500 and Trump 25,800. Without new voters, Trump would have come in 3rd because Iowa is filled with total morons.

    If Trump had a real ground game, he would have won even though he had no business even being competitive in a state as backwards and stupid as Iowa.

    Forget what I said about taking the vote away from Christians, we need to take the vote away from Iowans.

    Otis the Sweaty

    February 3, 2016 at EDT am

    • Iowans aren’t the problem. Like you said, if Trump had a real ground game he would have won. That’s supposed to be due diligence for a politician. Even if he somehow overlooked such details when he started out, newspapers with national circulation were warning about the problem weeks before the Iowa caucus. Apparently he concluded the big crowds at his rallies meant he wouldn’t need to spend money to get them there.


      February 3, 2016 at EDT am

      • He wouldn’t have needed a ground game if Iowans weren’t so stupid. They are stupid midwesterners who like Cruz because he is a Christian TruCon and like Rubio because he seems like a “nice” Christian. Their state is all white so they don’t know anything about immigration.

        Also, Trump’s problem wasn’t just no ground game, it was that he didn’t do the retail politicking that Cruz absolutely nailed. Lack of retail politicking will also hurt him in NH but it isn’t as big a deal because NH’ers aren’t retarded like Iowans are.

        Iowans are stupid people. We need to take away their right to vote immediately.

        Otis the Sweaty

        February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

  4. Ha! If someone is going around murdering 13-year-old girls, he probably needs to make more corrections to his life than just learning about game. I had a severe case of oneitis in college, yet there were zero fatalities involved. No one was even hospitalized!

    I’m also inclined to think that leaping to a “man bites dog” scenario — i.e., woman incites man to murder — is going to tend to be wrong. Especially because Eisenhauer appears more attractive than Natalie.

    So here’s a real-life scenario: a friend of mine, at age 18, once picked up a girl and had sex with her. She claimed she was 17 but was actually 14 (the state in question might have had Romeo and Juliet laws – not sure). And then she went crazy and started telling him she loved him and was going to marry him and tell her parents all about it.

    He managed to placate her and then get the hell out of town (he was vacationing at the time). But there was a moment of sheer panic there where anything could have happened, especially if my friend had more violent tendencies.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT am

  5. Looking at the photo of Natalie Keepers in the first article you linked you can see she is about a four, and that is high as she will ever get as she’s already a little chunky so I think she was more enamored of Eisenhauer than the other way around. I can’t imagine any way that this guy isn’t guilty of murder.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT am

  6. “My theory is that Eisenhaur is innocent, and that law enforcement assumes he must be guilty because he’s 18 and the victim is 13. And my theory is that Natalie’s involvement is merely that she also exchanged some electronic communications with the victim.”

    OK. So, according to your theory, how did she die? Did she, in fact, suffer stab wounds (as the police / DA appear pretty clear on)? If so, who stabbed her? You mention that Natalie “exchanged some electronic communications with the victims.” Were these – as the LE theory appears to be – communications that lured the victim out of her house / convinced her to run away? If so, how did she get from running away with one or both of these Tech students to getting stabbed by someone else?

    Without answers to these questions, even if complete guess-work, I’m not sure we can call yours a “theory.” If a defense attorney responded to every allegations and every bit of evidence by saying “nuh-uh, that didn’t happen,” but never explained what DID happen, we wouldn’t be inclined to say that he had a theory of the case.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT am

    • Defense attorneys normally don’t deal with innocent clients so it’s not something they have much experience with.

      If these two are innocent and the victim was stabbed, then someone else did it. (“Someone else did it” is a common defense, even though the defense attorneys don’t actually believe it.)

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 3, 2016 at EDT am

      • Fair enough. So – not saying you’re wrong, but just to flesh out the theory – you think someone else, unrelated to the two VT student defendants, stabbed her?


        February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

  7. who the hell wants to kidnap and kill a chubby 13-yo with a liver problem? lemme guess: no father in the girl’s life.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

  8. According to a post by “Inside Running Info” on this page of a discussion, Eisenhauer, whose performance as a high school athlete had been impressive and who had claimed in an interview that he would not stop running until he achieved his peak performance, made ill-advised training choices during and after a school trip to South America last spring, and seemed to have given up any serious training about a month after the local news piece was recorded.

    If he did it, I expect it will come out that he began to struggle with his studies during that last semester of high school, did worse at VT, and was growing increasingly frustrated with the fact that he had given up the sport he excelled in to take on a field in which he’ll never “be as good as other people are”. (Probably Keepers wasn’t doing so hot either.)

    I get James Holmes vibes from this guy, so it won’t surprise me if his defense argues that his sudden poor performance in sport and study stemmed from severe mental illness. Perhaps there’s a family history, as there was with Holmes, and he got into running in a vain attempt to control it, much like Holmes studied neuroscience in an attempt to cure himself.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

    • I could definitely believe that severe mental illness could cause a young man to do stupid stuff like kill people in a movie theater or if your an airline pilot, lock yourself in the cockpit and crash the plane.

      It doesn’t explain why the 19-year-old girl helped him.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

  9. There’s not much info at this point, but from what’s there it’s not even clear that the Virginia Tech students ever met the victim.

    I can easily see two college kids screwing with a 13yr old online for fun.

    They were chatting online, Nicole had an argument with her parents (probably about the college guy she was talking to), barricaded her door and, and climbed out the window. Sometime after she was stabbed, possibly in a park.

    This could easily turn out like Chandra Levy. After years of suspecting Gary Condit, the murderer turned out to be some random illegal alien.


    February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

    • Thanks for reminding me. I was so sure it was Condit.

      Had Condit been some used car salesman and not a Congressman, he probably would have been arrested for the murder.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 3, 2016 at EDT pm

  10. This story is a case study in why you should deny the internet and a phone to a teenage girl. These technologies, in effect, allow strangers to come into your house and seduce your daughter (especially dangerous if she’s a naive early teen). Without these things, the chances of her encountering a pervert and of him convincing her to leave the house would be practically zero.


    February 4, 2016 at EDT am

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