Lion of the Blogosphere

Are conservatives still fighting the Cold War?

The hypothesis of this post is that all conventional conservative policies and beliefs are holdovers form the Cold War.

1. Capitalism at all costs. To differentiate ourselves from the evil “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” we must have unwavering support for laissez-faire capitalism and opposition to anything which remotely resembles government interference in the “free market.”

2. Military spending. The USSR has a massive military, we must spend to keep up with them so that we don’t lose World War III.

3. Immigration. People want to escape from the USSR. The fact that people want to move here demonstrates our moral superiority over the commies and must be embraced.

4. Religion. The USSR is officially atheist. We must embrace religion to demonstrate our moral superiority over the commies. Even a Muslim is better than an atheist. (Also note that the USSR has a very high abortion rate.)

5. Support Democracy. Unwavering support for Democracy in all countries of the world to differentiate them from the totalitarian USSR.

I propose that it’s time for post-Cold-War conservatism.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 4, 2016 at 11:49 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. Good points, except that we’re religious because Christianity is true. It’s not for propaganda.

    Andrew E.

    February 4, 2016 at 11:52 am

    • That’s so cute that you still believe the propaganda.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 4, 2016 at 11:53 am

      • Still waiting on the first experimental proof of random genetic mutation plus natural selection leading to speciation.

        Andrew E.

        February 4, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    • Andrew E. I’m waiting on tangible physical proof of the concept of sin.

      We do however have evidence of specialization working fairly close to what evolution suggests.

      To what Lion says, yes we do. Unfortunately the cohort in office young or old are products of the cold war and quite blinkered, I mean really, the US already is socialist, 40% of the economy is government and we are awash in Cultural Marxism. We are basically quite a bit Communist already.

      A.B Prosper

      February 4, 2016 at 4:23 pm

      • “Still waiting on the first experimental proof of random genetic mutation plus natural selection leading to speciation.”

        Very sensible because the absence of experimental proof of speciation automatically proves that Christianity is true .


        February 4, 2016 at 6:04 pm

      • Very sensible because the absence of experimental proof of speciation automatically proves that Christianity is true .

        Christianity cannot be “proven” true. Only experienced as such. There is sufficient evidence to rationally believe in Christianity but the evidence is not the sort that compels belief. It’s meant to be a real choice.

        Darwinism however is pushed as science. Well, it’s a theory without any proof. So who’s believing the propaganda? That was my point.

        Andrew E.

        February 4, 2016 at 7:09 pm

      • “Darwinism” is the logical result of analyzing fossil evidence, if one did not know about the Book of Genesis.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 4, 2016 at 7:18 pm

      • “Darwinism” is the logical result of analyzing fossil evidence, if one did not know about the Book of Genesis.

        Logical only once philosophical materialism is assumed. That’s why Darwinism is metaphysics and not science. The metaphysics of Darwinism is assumed, and voila!, Darwinian evolution becomes true.

        Andrew E.

        February 4, 2016 at 10:22 pm

  2. The keystone of conservative thought is making decisions to create a society that’s robust to crisis especially war. So it shouldn’t be that surprising to find that they retain a war mindset well after a rather nebulous war.


    February 4, 2016 at 11:56 am

  3. I live in a complex full of former Sovs. Not sure if they’re Russians or Ukrainians. Horrible people. No class at all.


    February 4, 2016 at 11:59 am

  4. They’re trying to be Reagan.


    February 4, 2016 at 12:02 pm

  5. Absolutely 100% correct.


    February 4, 2016 at 12:06 pm

  6. Brilliant manifesto. I still don’t fully fathom SoCons’ pathological, childish desire to be seen as the Good Guys at all times. I feel like most of us outgrow that after college at the latest.

    (Contrast this to the hedonistic libertarian PJ O’Rourke’s classic 1980s “we be bad” rant)


    February 4, 2016 at 12:20 pm

    • There is a reason they don’t outgrow it; they simply don’t want to offend, literally at all. I think they see disagreeableness and outside ideas that are deemed disagreeable (to them) as cohesion wreckers. Agreeableness is very important to them. To the point that they won’t deal with problems in order to not offend. That attitude is pathological and doesn’t work when systems get more complex and harder to deal with. They just clam up and stay the course even though it’s obvious the status quo isn’t working anymore.

      We do need a new conservatism. The old one isn’t working anymore.

      the grand drama lama

      February 4, 2016 at 5:56 pm

  7. Excellent post LotB!! I totally agree. Big “C” Conservatism is really outmoded and mostly irrelevant now. Check out Richard Spencer’s video posted last week on YouTube called “When Conservatism Dies”. It basically addresses all of the issues that you raised.

    Look, I’m consider myself to be conservatism and for the most part right-wing. However, there is very little in modern Capitalism (Big “C”) that is really conservative or that really is inherently in the nation’s interest with government mandates. General Electric or Apple or Goldman Sachs will gladly outsource jobs overseas if it is cheaper. Yet, establishment Conservatives still continue to support laissez-faire Capitalism.

    That’s why the Dissident Right has been growing by leaps and bounds over the past few years. We see how irrelevant and frankly stupid the establishment Conservative movement is. Free Markets! Limited Government! Constitution! We’ve moved past that at this point.


    February 4, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    • “General Electric or Apple or Goldman Sachs will gladly outsource jobs overseas if it is cheaper.”

      In addition, they promote liberal ideology like global warming and diversity.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 4, 2016 at 12:28 pm

      • Aaron Clarey a/k/a Captain Capitalism had a blog entry on this very subject a couple of days ago.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        February 4, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    • The problem with Movement Conservatism is that it privileges ideology over experience. Conservatism in politics used to be understood as the reverse of that. What we’ve got now, with Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, National Review and the whole mildewed gang is a utopian movement that Pavlovianly recycles ideological dogmas crafted in the 1960s and ’70s to deal with situations that were topical 50 years ago but long ago transformed. What stuff they had that worked hit the point of diminishing returns several election cycles ago, while other ideas in their quiver broke to pieces when they hit the target. The Republican amnesty of 1986 was a disaster and did everything its critics said it would, so what do Rubio and Ryan try to do? Do it all over again, because we’re the party of ideas and aspiration. It’s like that all over.

      I was listening to NPR this morning and they were playing a Marco Rubio speech where he said, “If you want to be financially successful and live in a big wealthy house, you live in the one country in the world where it doesn’t matter that your dad is a bartender and your mother’s a maid. You can do that, too!” It’s beyond description how much disgust I felt at that moment. Like hell you can. Try doing that in 2016 without any connections or money. It matters a lot that your dad’s a bartender and your mother’s a housemaid. And the numbers show it’s mattering more each year as the middle class hollows out, college degrees lose value and working class jobs disappear, and policies Rubio favors have a lot to do with it. That’s reality, but hopeful optimistic sunnyside-up Marco has no acquaintance with it. Won’t you travel to Utopia? It’s sunny here because you have no house.


      February 4, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      • “The problem with Movement Conservatism is that it privileges ideology over experience. Conservatism in politics used to be understood as the reverse of that.”

        Absolutely fantastic point!

        Mike Street Station

        February 4, 2016 at 3:48 pm

  8. No, Conservatives are fighting the anything-but-the-race-war. All these little adventures overseas are misdirection so that Conservatism, Inc. and the Republican party don’t have to deal with the issue of race back home. Dealing with race (i.e., doing anything remotely pro-white) means bucking the cultural dictatorship and that’s bad for binness. Republican binness. They had communism in the old days, and have been trying to reproduce that safety valve ever since. So you have it bass-ackwards. Nowadays the surrender to the cultural goons by the Republican/Conservative leadership is nearly complete and they actually hate the majority of their supporters on a racial/cultural basis instead of just on a class basis as before. That’s the meaning of Jeb declaring he’s going to win the nomination without the “Republican base” – that is, he’s going to cobble together the greedy with liberal Republicans and Hispanics so he can by-pass all those flyover whites he and his cocktail set see as little better than Nazis. They’re sorry they’re stuck with them. But, God bless ’em, rank and file conservatives are just like a good, loyal dog – no matter how often they’re beaten they always return to lick the latest puddle of their master’s vomit.


    February 4, 2016 at 1:26 pm

  9. John Derbyshire sums it up thus: nationalism & demographic stability vs. globalism & multiculturalism.
    The new insurgent right backs the former while the conservative establishment and the left back the latter.

    Lewis Medlock

    February 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm

  10. The decline of the Cold War is what led to the obsession with free market capitalism. When the Communist world represented something resembling a threat was when the US and the West in general was at its most social-democratic. The neoliberalism and screwing over of the average person came on strong into the 70s and especially in the 80s, when the Soviet threat was essentially over due to its relative stagnation.

    The current market-obsession conservatism IS post-cold war conservatism. The quick decline of a somewhat viable threat of organized social disruption coming from the left allowed the establishment to really aggressively start screwing over its citizens and no longer forced them to make the concessions to workers that led to higher wages and job security, which drove support for the capitalist west vs. the communists. It doesn’t matter what people think of capitalism anymore because the alternative has been defeated.

    Of course immigration plays a role in this too. Who cares about wages and employment, they’re stuck with neoliberal capitalism, it’s the only game going, so feel free to import people to drive wages down.


    February 4, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    • And this can be extended to the abandonment of any communal or traditional values among the elite. Opposition to communism among the average person was tied to love of America, of community, of tradition. The communists were anti-everything good, so America had better have a lot of those good things not only like jobs but like functional, relateable communities with real solidarity and high trust. If you want your people to hate an enemy, they better love what they have. There is no real enemy to fight anymore so who cares if the people like their country and their community? If there is money to be made from destroying the society, the elites will do so and pocket the result.


      February 4, 2016 at 2:45 pm

  11. Yes! There is always another Evil Empire lurking somewhere in the shadows. The GOP power elite must serve the military industrial complex just as the DNC must serve the Cathedral. Onward Christian soldiers!


    February 4, 2016 at 2:37 pm

  12. These points are true enough, but even worse is the tendency to use Munich as the template to view every foreign policy issue ever.


    February 4, 2016 at 4:34 pm

  13. Whether we (as in, most of the globe) like it or not, we are living in a world shaped by the Cold War.

    Ahhh this historical game; there wouldn’t have been a cold war without WWII; there wouldn’t have been a WWII with out WWI; there wouldn’t have been a Soviet Union without WWI.

    In WWI the Germans smuggled Russian exiles back to Russia to undermine the Russian regime. One of those exiles was Vlad Lenin. The Germans set their neighbors apartment on fire, hoping the fire wouldn’t spread to their home.

    It’s all circular arguments with history.

    Either way, the world is still living with the results of WWI, WWII and the Cold War; mutually exclusively and in parallel.


    February 4, 2016 at 7:03 pm

  14. 1. Capitalism at all costs. To differentiate ourselves from the evil “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” we must have unwavering support for laissez-faire capitalism and opposition to anything which remotely resembles government interference in the “free market.”

    Oh yes,capitalism is at fault. Because the elites are all doctrinaire Hayekians.

    Watch how well liberal Western economics fare when China’s crash destroys Europe’s exposed banking system and the euro currency along with it. The disintegration of the euro, the national currency of ~20% of global GDP, will be the fault of free market capitalists because it was invented by crackpot social engineers.

    I propose that it’s time for post-Cold-War conservatism.

    Keep everything except immigration.

    Btw, legal immigration was moderate during the Cold War. It averaged 600,000 during Reagan’s presidency and only increased to 1 million when that fool GHW Bush raised the cap in 1990.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    February 4, 2016 at 7:51 pm

  15. I think this is one of your best posts, Lion.

    I used to work as a middling municipal affairs reporter for a small newspaper in a mid-sized city. One thing that consistently struck me whenever I spoke to Republican politicians and their staffers, supporters etc — even at this very low, low level of politics — was how quickly every damn thing went back to communism. Everything was always “like something out of the Soviet Union” or Cuba or the Red Guard or whatever else even when the debate was about school lunches or something.

    Any politician over 40 grew up during the Cold War, and it greatly informed their frame of reference regarding political philosophy. Any college educated conservative likewise undoubtably had to endure a lot of openly Marxist professors, and this seems to have traumatized a lot of Republicans into believing that communism remains a much more real and pressing threat in America than it really is.

    Cold War hangovers are everywhere in Republican politics. The idolatry of Ronald Reagan. The outsourced attention given to Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea. The obsession with Putin. The fear of China.

    People forget that the “conservative movement” founded by Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan, Falwell, et al was primary a broad, anti-Communist alliance. The fact that this is still one of the dominant factions of our politics today reminds me of how in Ireland their political parties are still based around the two sides of their 100-year-old civil war.

    If I had to guess, I’d say the conservative movement will one day reform around a new goal of being an “anti-Islam” coalition. Some of the component parts could stay in place (Evangelical Christians), others could be shed (big business could move to the Democrats, making peace with a more managed economy — which they’d probably like anyway), and some new groups could join (gays and atheists).


    February 4, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    • Shep,
      Great point! Conservatism is basically bourgeois to the point of parody. Look, I’ll admit. I’m bourgeois. You need a strong bourgeois class to have sustained prosperity. However, this obsessive focus on capitalism, the free-market, free-trade, small government, etc. is that it leads to very short-term thinking. It’s why they don’t think there is any problem with offshoring our manufacturing base, our computer science jobs, etc. Nothing extends beyond one year.

      That’s why the bourgeoisie cannot be in charge of the commanding heights of society. They should of course have a role. But not the only role like they do now!


      February 5, 2016 at 1:02 pm

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