Lion of the Blogosphere

Reparations for blacks

I would approve of reparations if it means no more white guilt, no more pandering to blacks on issues like Ferguson, no more affirmative action everywhere, etc.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 12, 2016 at 2:17 pm

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  1. OK, that’s a “no.”


    February 12, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    • Living in the USA is reparations enough. Look at Africa and tell us that these people would be better off had they not been exported. Anyone who was sold as a slave was at the bottom of society in Africa back in the day which is why they were being sold rather than selling. Now look at the bottom of society in Africa today. Shudder. Yeah, they are damned lucky their forbears were exported rather than just killed.

      not too late

      February 13, 2016 at 5:21 pm

  2. I posted this in a previous comment thread. It’s still fascinating:


    February 12, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    • Hey, another reading of both NC and LOTB! They are pretty good about the awfulness of identity politics over there too, and that link has some nice trashing of the absurdly overrated Coates.


      February 12, 2016 at 4:38 pm

  3. If that was realistic, sure, but when has pandering gotten anything except for more demands?


    February 12, 2016 at 2:30 pm

  4. Didn’t Dave Chapelle already put this idea to bed?


    February 12, 2016 at 2:30 pm

  5. I’d make it a one time payment of $50,000 per black American (with proven slave ancestors) that they get when they turn 25, but if you are convicted of a felony before that age, you forfeit the reparation. that would do wonders for the crime rate.


    February 12, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    • That wouldn’t alter black behavior one bit. They’d just circle the wagons, cover for each other and cooperate with police even less than they already do.

      The only time that blacks can successfully accomplish anything unified and organized is when it involves trying to obtain something from whitey, otherwise they can’t even cooperate enough to form a halfway decent neighborhood, city or country.


      February 12, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    • That is actually a great idea. By some measures, 25% of the adult black population in the US is comprised of convicted felons.

      Sagi Is My Guru

      February 12, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    • The proven slave ancestor distinction is interesting. Shouldn’t the people forced to pay have proven slave-holding ancestors then?

      If we’re getting that granular, why should someone with an Ellis Island family history have to pay? Or worse, how about those of us who have Union soldiers in our bloodlines? Seems ridiculous.

      I’m sure that has been pointed out before, but its just one of many reasons reparations has no legs.


      February 12, 2016 at 6:50 pm

      • Ha!

        The only people with proven slave owning ancestors are …

        black Americans.

        Steve Johnson

        February 13, 2016 at 1:03 am

  6. It isn’t possible, Lion. There are 39 million blacks in the US. Giving all of them even $10K would cost 390 Billion.

    Sagi Is My Guru

    February 12, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    • Annual budget is $3.8 trillion, so a one-time expense of $10K is easily affordable, and in fact we can afford quite a bit more than that.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 12, 2016 at 3:06 pm

      • It will not happen. Elites will import more Hispanics, Muslims and Asians to drown out the significance of blacks and let these immigrant groups deal with the problem one way or the other. Hispanics have already taken their jobs as the 1st phase.


        February 12, 2016 at 3:19 pm

      • “Annual budget is $3.8 trillion” – that is exactly my point. Even at $10K per head, reparations would be equal to ten percent of the annual budget of the US. That is an enormous amount.

        Sagi Is My Guru

        February 12, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    • Are all 39 million descended from slaves?


      February 12, 2016 at 4:01 pm

      • No.

        1 in 8 blacks have grandparents who were not born here.

        not too late

        February 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    • “It isn’t possible, Lion. There are 39 million blacks in the US. Giving all of them even $10K would cost 390 Billion.”

      Not all 39 million Blacks are descended from American slaves. Blacks have been immigrating from Africa and the Caribbean for decades. They and their ancestors get nothing. And really, you can’t give everyone reparations. If all of the newly freed slaves had gotten reparations, their ancestors would be owed nothing now. If the granddad get’s reparations, should the father and the son and the grandson get the same amount? It doesn’t make sense. Someone is going to get money and someone is getting nothing.

      Mike Street Station

      February 12, 2016 at 9:25 pm

  7. And although doctor Henry Louis Gates is a loon, he did have a moment of clarity when he argued that Africans should pay reparations. He acknowledged the heavy participation of blacks themselves in propagating the slave trade, even though that is never mentioned by other black “academics”:

    To me it’s funny that American blacks still think that it was common for White Europeans to trudge deep into the African interior to raid for slaves. Why would they do that when they could just fill a ship with rum and rifles and pull up to Goree island and have African chiefs bring them a never ending supply of captives?

    From the Gates article:

    Given this remarkably messy history, the problem with reparations may not be so much whether they are a good idea or deciding who would get them; the larger question just might be from whom they would be extracted.

    I, Camlost, will personally match, dollar for dollar, any reparations paid to American blacks by the descendants of those equally guilty African slave kingdoms who enabled 50% of the slave trade themselves.


    February 12, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    • Just because blacks thought it was OK to sell their fellow blacks into slavery doesn’t mean that whites should have sunk themselves to such a low moral level. How much better off the world would have been if we didn’t engage in the slave trade?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 12, 2016 at 3:07 pm

      • Well, I never said it was a particularly pretty or kind institution. But slavery has been a feature of pretty much any pre-modern civilization of any note, it was often the standard way of dealing with military captives or political subversives.

        But, if you’re talking about who is financially liable then that should be shared by all parties with culpability.


        February 12, 2016 at 3:35 pm

      • Slavery wasn’t immoral.


        February 12, 2016 at 4:37 pm

      • How many 19th century economic systems produced sufficient surplus to support an auxiliary population that otherwise could not support itself within a modern society?

        19th century Americans had three options for dealing with the slave population. 1) export them; 2) maintain slavery; or 3) let a large portion of them starve. We chose the latter option but we called it freedom.


        February 13, 2016 at 2:02 pm

  8. I’ve given thought to it and I would be OK with it as well, but I just don’t think it’s a practical possibility. Requiring people to provide documentation that they are descended from American slaves…seems like a tall order for many. And who do you reimburse? If you have several generations living, do you just pay off the oldest ones, or everyone? And no matter what plan you come up with, it won’t be enough. Sure I would love to trade reparations to get rid of Affirmative Action, but some politician will try to outbid everyone else, and have both.

    Then the whole idea collapses as it just becomes a big grab bag, No proof required, then all people of color are eligible…

    Mike Street Station

    February 12, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    • You get to the crux of the problem. It will never be enough. After reparations for slavery, there will come reparations for Jim Crow (which makes sense to me), and reparations for slavery, and reparations for the War on Drugs, and reparations for the Housing Crash of 2008, and reparations for Ferguson, and on and on.

      Complaining about the past isn’t going to make the future better, and paying off someone for their ancestor’s pain isn’t going to make that pain go away.

      Half Canadian

      February 12, 2016 at 5:02 pm

      • Funny that you mention that! I’m on a political form and someone mentioned reparations for Jim Crow separate from slavery reparations. Basically, it’s checks a’coming from here on out. That’s the dream.

        Mike Street Station

        February 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm

  9. Some more quotes from the Reed article. It’s goooooood. It’s good even if you’re nowhere near as left wing as I am:

    “My mind is blown by the understanding of politics that undergirds this perspective that people like Coates and proud TFA alum Deray McKesson and holy roller Marissa Johnson and all those others embrace. It’s fundamentally anti-left.

    “The only thing you can say is that this is a class program. That this is a program that expresses and connects with the interests, or the world view, if not interests-although they do come together-of an aspiring or upwardly mobile stratum of the black and other colored PMC (professional managerial class) that scoffs and sneers at programs of material redistribution…

    “…I say that their race first politics is a class politics. It’s not an alternative to class politics it’s a politics of a different class. It’s not a working class politics, it’s an aspiring PMC politics that’s hinged in material terms ultimately on race relations administration as a career path.

    “There’s a multi-billion dollar diversity industry now-it might be interesting to have Ken Warren on and talk about that since he did a three year tour as a Deputy Provost for Diversity at the University of Chicago and made deep penetrations behind the lines of the corporate diversity industry…

    “…Look, it doesn’t need to be Kumbaya. It’s practical-if you assume that the interests and the structures which generate inequality, dispossession and misery are not amenable to the petitions to the enlightened ruling class from one section of the oppressed, then the only way we’re going to be able to make anyone’s life better is to change the terms of political debate.

    “And we can only do that on the basis of common experience and the most broadly shared experience is that of those who work for a living or are expected to work for a living. And I don’t see how we can get to any sort of a better world going through any other route. And we certainly can’t do it by hanging out, like McKesson and John Legend (in his own mind) with the Broad Foundation and Bruce Rauner and TFA and people like that.

    “There’s a sense in which these people are the black shock troops for neoliberalism.”


    February 12, 2016 at 2:42 pm

  10. Finding out who is a descendant of slaves be doable with modern genetics. African Americans are almost exclusively from the Yoruba/Mandenka genetic cluster with European admixture.

    The problem is huge swaths of the progressive coalition wouldn’t qualify. Affirmative action was sold as a kind of reparations, as a way of helping those who had in actuality been institutionally held back. But it has been expanded to every group that underperforms.

    Based on what happened with Affirmative Action, I predict that if reparations actually occurred, reparations would additionally be expected for a myriad of groups with no history of slavery for reasons.


    February 12, 2016 at 2:43 pm

  11. In France , the only reparation we have had for slavery was paying back the slave owners for the prejudice of lost property. Half the money was paid with public contribution (tax), half was a debt levied on freed-black salaries during 3 decades….

    Bruno from Paris

    February 12, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    • So France basically made the slaves pay for the reparations?


      February 12, 2016 at 10:36 pm

  12. Ta-Nehisi Coates gives very few details about reparations in his beloved reparations longform piece, but one thing he is clear about is that you need to stop feeling patriotic on the 4th of July. You can still eat hot dogs and hamburgers, but try not to enjoy them so much. Something to that effect. Everything else is negotiable.

    Greg Pandatshang

    February 12, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    • For some reason he’s gotten a lot of praise from that article, and it is a good history of housing discrimination in the early 20th Century, but it really doesn’t have anything to do with slave reparations.It’s like the editor just added that title even though the article is about something different.

      Mike Street Station

      February 12, 2016 at 4:10 pm

      • “For some reason he’s gotten a lot of praise from that article”

        He’s the Patron Saint of White Guilt. I know a few SJWs who come pretty close to worshiping him. Your average black person has no idea who he is.

        The more I read Scott Adams, the less I think of him, but I still find him more good than bad. One thing he pointed out recently is that identity is what persuades people the most, analogy persuades people a little, and reason doesn’t persuade people at all. This made of think of Coates’ new book where he repeatedly refers to “people who think they are white” rather than “white people.” This isn’t just Coates making some SJW talking point about the social construction of race and “how the Irish became white” or whatever. It’s a deliberate attempt to shame white Americans out of having any collective sense of identity while promoting a collective black sense of identity.

        The man really is scum. You have to admit that he’s a fairly smart guy, but he’s certainly not worthy of a MacArthur Fellowship. The fact that he represents today’s Talented Tenth is pitiful and reflects poorly on black Americans as a whole.


        February 12, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      • Regarding black housing: NYC’s housing projects in Manhattan used to be predominantly black — now they are gradually becoming a Hispanic majority. The destruction process of the inner city has slowed significantly and its wealthy neighbors can have a peace of mind. Hispanics dislike american blacks and their invasion signify black flight. Our elites have willfully engaged in politic with our racial dynamics. The average SJW and white liberal doofus have never understood, that a united multicolor, anti-white fantasy does not exist.


        February 13, 2016 at 11:43 am

      • Exactly. The article is not factually incorrect as far as I know, but it does not do what it says on the tin.

        Doesn’t matter to consensus cultural leftery, of course. They just want to genuflect at the altar.

        Greg Pandatshang

        February 13, 2016 at 8:20 pm

  13. The agree and amplify move here is to offer them their own country. Just carve out some land and give it to them. That will shut them up.

    Abundance Mentality

    February 12, 2016 at 2:50 pm

  14. Reparations would lead to MORE white guilt and demands for more reparations and pandering. . .

    All ready TRILLIONS of dollars have been spent on the “community” for the past 50+ years.


    February 12, 2016 at 2:53 pm

  15. Ok but who’s “black.” Thomas Jefferson’s love children’s descendants look white. Even if DNA testing were utilized, how do you separate people with non-slave african ancestry from those descended from slaves? It’s just a stupid idea.

    slithy toves

    February 12, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    • “Thomas Jefferson’s love children’s descendants…”

      Okay, let’s just put that one to rest. He almost certainly didn’t *have* any “love children” with Sally what’s her face. They found that the DNA came from that family, but he would’ve been an old, sick man with no history of that kind of carry on at the time. It’s far more likely that it was his spry, 20-years-younger blackguard brother who done it.


      February 12, 2016 at 3:22 pm

      • and that makes all the difference. lol

        slithy toves

        February 12, 2016 at 8:32 pm

  16. Without affirmative action the top colleges will be almost all white and Asian. I don’t think society is ready for that.


    February 12, 2016 at 3:14 pm

  17. Whatever reparations is, it wouldn’t be a fraction of all that other stuff. I wish we could just get Ta-Nehisi Coates to dream up whatever number he likes and we borrow the money from China. It would still be cheaper than a massive welfare state lasting for all eternity.


    February 12, 2016 at 3:22 pm

  18. I hope that either Hillary or Bernie is stupid enough to make even a passing comment favoring the idea of reparations.

    That will seal GOP into the White House for the next 5 elections.


    February 12, 2016 at 3:37 pm

  19. Check out the Twitter timeline of UT professor Paige Harden right now to see a smart liberal becoming HBD-aware in real time.


    February 12, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    • There’s no such thing as a smart liberal. It’s an oxymoron. If they were smart, they wouldn’t be liberal.

      Robert the Wise

      February 13, 2016 at 10:35 am

      • People are liberal because the other people they know are liberal and they want to fit in. Has nothing to do with IQ.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 13, 2016 at 11:23 am

  20. any chance Bernie is Hillary’s VP if he continues to be competitive? If he isn’t, might be hard for the Dems to turn out a large portion of their base, who might be susceptible to Trump’s message.

    Otis the Sweaty

    February 12, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    • That would be a clever move.

      Appointing Bill as her running mate would be even smarter. Then we’d be full-on Byzantine decadence.

      I’m with Lion on this: I’d be in favor of reparations if it would stop the gibsmedat. But it would be only an opening salvo for even more, until they’ve bankrupted everything. You should listen to the intellectual leaders of the BLM movement. They are out not for justice, but revenge and racial domination. There is no end to their rage. It will have to be doused.


      February 12, 2016 at 4:42 pm

      • It’s not going to happen. blacks are treated like feral animals. A city like Atlanta, which has seen White flight for quite sometime, is becoming a burgeoning Chinatown and a Hindustan!


        February 12, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    • any chance Bernie is Hillary’s VP if he continues to be competitive?

      If the odds are above zero they’re not much higher. As you see with the case of her email scandala, the witch is a control freak. Sanders is likely too independent minded for her place any trust in.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      February 12, 2016 at 5:47 pm

  21. Reparations would be acceptable if a sound eugenics program was implemented and William Shockley’s face was put on the dollar bill.

    Lewis Medlock

    February 12, 2016 at 4:07 pm

  22. An idiotic idea. No reparations, no guilt. If they prefer to have stayed in Africa, nobody is stopping them from moving there. What are they waiting for?


    February 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    • I agree. I’m prepared for all out race war before I voluntarily fork over a dime for reparations.


      February 12, 2016 at 4:54 pm

      • You already pay reparations through taxes, which are then converted into welfarebux.


        February 13, 2016 at 2:03 am

  23. I’m all for this. How many years would pass before 90% of the reparation money was just back into the flow of the economy anyway? 4-5 years? Say you gave every African American 50K. How many would save even half of that?

    I’d invest in companies that make champagne, jewelry, shoes…

    Some would get out of debt, put the money into their home, but most would just spend. It would end up looking identical to a stimulus package.


    February 12, 2016 at 4:21 pm

  24. I would approve of reparations if it means no more white guilt, no more pandering to blacks on issues like Ferguson, no more affirmative action everywhere, etc.

    Those things are a form reparations. The point is to use them to raise black people to equality so that they’re no longer needed. But I suspect that even with equality many of those things wouldn’t go anywhere and they’d join the the other groups that have above average quality of life but still receive special treatment of various kinds (women, jews, asians, etc.).

    The only truly reliable way to get rid of those things is to get rid of black people. Paying black people to renounce their citizenship would be a great idea. I suspect if you do the math $250,000 a person would be a steal.

    Lloyd Llewellyn

    February 12, 2016 at 4:44 pm

  25. Trolling your readers?

    No amount of money will make blacks shut up and go away. Reparations will only make them want more. And we’ve already paid them a thousand times over in welfare, affirmative action, and the costs of dealing with their savagery and stupidity.


    February 12, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    • You can pay them to go away if you literally pay them to go away but paying them to renounce their citizenship.

      Lloyd Llewellyn

      February 12, 2016 at 10:18 pm

  26. Just realized we already have paid reparations…

    We’ve spent about 22 Trillion on welfare since LBJ.

    About 38% of welfare recipients are black today. It used to be a higher percentage (before Hispanics and Asians arrived in larger numbers and gobbling up a piece of the pie), but to do a hasty calculation let’s pretend this 38% has been constant.

    So let’s round WAAAY down and guesstimate about 7 Trillion has been spent fighting poverty in the black community. It’s more, but we’re being generous.

    How many black Americans have been alive over that period of time? About 60 million.

    7,000,000,000,000/ 60,000,000 means we have spent about $116,000 per black citizen fighting poverty in the black community with welfare benefits alone.

    How many white Americans have been alive since we launched the Great Society? About 330 million.

    Leaving aside the welfare expenditures on Hispanic and Asian Americans, let’s guesstimate that 12 trillion has been spent on white welfare. Again, we’re being generous…

    12,000,000,000,000/ 330,000,000 means we have spent about $36,000 per white citizen fighting poverty in the white community.

    So before we even get to affirmative action, or the future interest paid on these debts, the government has spent about 80K more per capita on black citizens.

    Consider that reparations bill paid.


    February 12, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    • Unfortunately, by calling that stuff things other than reparations, it never alleviated any of the white guilt.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 12, 2016 at 5:22 pm

      • The most appropriate and correct term for transfer payments to blacks would be danegeld, which was a tax raised to pay tribute to the Vikings, to prevent the land from being ravaged.

        Because that’s why you pay, negrogeld, so they don’t loot and burn down cities.

        And the problem with reparations is that there was white slavery as well, even more of it in the early colonies, at one point in time half of all Irishmen were enslaved to the Americas, so why shouldn’t they get reparations as well? And the center of early slave trade wasn’t even the south, it was New England!

        In fact, “black slaves would be sought directly from Africa, so that there lack of English language ability—and ability to understand one another’s tribal languages—might prevent their conspiring with each other and white slaves to turn on their mutual oppressors” to quote James LaFond, go and read his posts about early American slavery.

        Nevertheless, i am FOR reparations, but it would cancel out your American citizenship
        I mean, you can’t you can’t have your cake and eat it too!

        It would be a check on one side, and a ticket to Liberia on the other.

        James LaFond First Slaves in America
        at the bottom is a slave articles Index


        February 12, 2016 at 8:01 pm

  27. Blacks collectively contribute approximately 4% of federal revenues yet constitute 13% of the population. Assuming they were only average users of expensive tax funded services they would still be shortchanging the rest of us by approx. 9% of total income tax revenue per year. How quickly before that 9% of shortchanged revenues equals proposed reparations?


    February 12, 2016 at 5:05 pm

  28. As soon as the cash payment for reparations is disbursed there would instantly be a demand for more reparations. Its like amnesty for illegal aliens. Once you pass amnesty the no-borders crown will demand a new round of amnesty.

    Reparation should consist of a quota system where blacks are given 15% of seats in schools and government jobs. This would be limited to only Native Americans and African-Americans descended from African slaves. Latinos and children of recent African immigrants do not qualify.


    February 12, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    • Reparation should consist of a quota system where blacks are given 15% of seats in schools and government jobs.

      Haven’t been to a govt office lately? Blacks already take up way more than 15% of government jobs, according to every poll I’ve seen. Their clustered in the highest numbers in city/governments positions, as well as in the TSA. I’ve seen estimates suggesting that up to 1/3 of the black work force is in public sector of some type, direct or indirect.

      Blacks are clustered at the lower levels, so any jobs-oriented reparations would have to involve increasing the numbers of blacks at the higher pay grades in public sector, as positions require more education level and specific skills.

      Obama himself has already been on a unilateral reparations job patronage/giveaway spree, I can’t think of too many white males he has appointed to much of anything in the last 7 years, outside of defense.


      February 12, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    • Your percentage would suffer from creep in no time. The only rational deal would reject any and all quota systems, and furthermore restructure society but to make them all but impossible. eg: Create race based nations. The major issue is living with them, not only the current manifestations of political and economic rent.


      February 12, 2016 at 10:32 pm

  29. lol, you would get demands for more reparations every 5 years.


    February 12, 2016 at 5:16 pm

  30. Don’t forget what happened in interwar Germany in response to the war reparations penalties – huge swing to the right. So, I’m all for more reparations talk. We need as much as possible. Hopefully the Democratic Party will commission an expensive study or form a permanent committee to keep discussing and reviving the idea ad nauseam.


    February 12, 2016 at 5:44 pm

  31. There is a Third Party candidate proposing slavery reparations with a financial transaction tax. What is ironic is that wall street fund’s a lot of the anti white agenda such as George Soros.


    February 12, 2016 at 5:44 pm

  32. Lion – you do realize such a thing would be very promiscuous and would cause quite a buzz in the Muslim World for reparations to the Palestinians?


    February 12, 2016 at 5:46 pm

  33. Greg Cochran addresses reparations in a recent article.

    “because of the size of the pot, swarms of the world’s most skillful and voracious grifters and con-men (Goldman Sachs) would immediately descend upon the black community and begin to extract the winnings, somewhat more rapidly than would have happened to a single individual receiving the same sum”

    Clay Carlin

    February 12, 2016 at 6:17 pm

  34. LOL. Where’s the reparations for Whites for the Barbary Slave Trade?


    February 12, 2016 at 6:37 pm

  35. Barbary Slave Trade reparations for Whites please!


    February 12, 2016 at 6:40 pm

  36. what?
    my greatgrandparents came into this country, with nothing but their faith, their skills and some tools, to make something out of nothing.
    after a century of hard work, suffering and starving we do well, but we won’t give this hard earned life up to n1993rs and bolshevik juveniles.

    kick them into hellfire.

    pius engelhart

    February 12, 2016 at 7:24 pm

  37. They can have Mississippi under the condition that all of them have to go there.

    hardcore homie

    February 12, 2016 at 7:45 pm

  38. Once you’ve paid the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane.

    Some Guy

    February 12, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    • Excellent observation!

      E. Rekshun

      February 13, 2016 at 9:24 am

      • Some Guy just knows his English lit: The line is a quote from Kipling’s highly relevant “Dane-geld” poem.


        February 15, 2016 at 11:23 am

  39. Since blacks have an average IQ of 85, they are always going to be demanding things from whites that they can’t provide for themselves.

    Joe Walker

    February 12, 2016 at 8:09 pm

  40. Whites have already paid over $22 trillion in reparations, without ever having owed a plugged nickel to blacks.

    The so-called Civil Rights Movement demanded and got reparations. The War on Poverty was reparations. Affirmative action was reparations. But every time whites paid, black supremacists moved the goalposts, redefined the fortune paid as not reparations, and demanded “reparations” all over again.

    Whites never owe blacks anything, because whites did not enslave blacks. Whites emancipated blacks.

    Any black who ever reached America’s shores as a slave had already been enslaved by blacks. The institution of black chattel slavery in America was founded by a black man, Anthony (Antonio) Johnson. The two greatest things that ever happened to sub-Saharan blacks were 1. Getting sent to America as slaves, and 2. Jim Crow.

    In Africa, their lives as slaves would have been nasty, brutish, and short, and probably not issued in … issue. Jim Crow gave their lives a level of order and peace they were unable to provide for themselves. That’s why black morality was so much superior to what it has been since whites gave blacks “civil rights.”

    Nicholas Stix

    February 12, 2016 at 8:37 pm

    • The problem is that we never called any of those things reparations, and furthermore other people besides those who are descended from slaves get those benefits, which doesn’t make the slave-descended blacks feel special.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 12, 2016 at 8:46 pm

      • Those things should be deducted from “reparations” along with the cost of black criminality.

        Do it that way and they wind up owing us money. Which they could pay off through a process of indentured labor….


        February 13, 2016 at 7:26 am

  41. No reparations…without repatriation…back to Africa…with a Muslim under each arm…haha

    FB (Former Beta)

    February 12, 2016 at 9:17 pm

  42. The proposed deal isn’t nearly beneficial enough, especially considering that its long term enforceability would be almost nil. It might even buy us a couple of decades, but either before or after that the old hustle will be back or a new hustle will be in play; as blacks will be in the same place that they are, or worse, and won’t like their relative prosperity to other nearby groups. Furthermore, they are too tempting to exploit as a political bludgeon in a proxy political war waged by any other group. Last, the rent seeking can be easily carried on by mulattoes and other groups that claim that they did not benefit from reparations.

    Instead the deal must include one of the following:

    Race-divided mutually agreed upon secession, leading to an apportioning of the USA to Blacks, Whites, and Other, with no further obligation between groups. It would be fairly logical to give Blacks a portion of the South.

    Repatriation to Africa, perhaps for an additional agreement of short term aid.

    Living with them is clearly untenable.


    February 12, 2016 at 10:29 pm

  43. If it looks like the general election will be close, I hope Trump seizes on reparations to win the black vote — and shouts that Mexico will pay for it!

    Mark Caplan

    February 12, 2016 at 10:43 pm

  44. Am I the only one who remembers Dave Chapelle’s hilarious bit on reparations?:


    February 12, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    • No you are not. But only Blacks can joke about this. If a white person is serious (or even joking) about this, they’re racist.

      Half canadian

      February 13, 2016 at 6:50 pm

  45. Reparations will mean MORE of all that you’ve mentioned, obviously.


    February 13, 2016 at 6:02 am

  46. What true racists (yes a lot of you are racists; embrace it and accept it) always do:

    Quote Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock. What do you guys complain about more? Wealth concentration in very few hands? Or how Blacks are living the high life on public assistance? Which is more of deserving of criticism?

    John S

    February 14, 2016 at 5:06 pm

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